Your morning jolt: Herman Cain, Vietnam, and his dad’s gun

If you’re looking for a copy of Herman Cain’s campaign autobiography, head for a book store in some Democratic enclave.

I bought what may be the last copy of “This Is Herman Cain!” in Cobb County, after three hours of searching.

:Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain signs a copy of his book, "This is Herman Cain! My Journey to the White House, " on Thursday at a book store in The Woodlands, Texas. AP/The Courier, Karl Anderson

:Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain signs a copy of his book, "This is Herman Cain! My Journey to the White House, " on Thursday at a book store in The Woodlands, Texas. AP/The Courier, Karl Anderson

The surging GOP presidential candidate was born in Memphis, but raised in Atlanta. Yet he left soon after graduating from Morehouse College in 1967, and didn’t re-establish himself in the metro area until 2000, after a far-flung business career.

So there’s much that even his hometown doesn’t know about him.

More later, but a couple points about the book:

– For a man born in 1945, at the leading edge of the Baby Boomer era, the most notable word missing from Cain’s 222-page life story is this: “Vietnam.” Not there.

Immediately after graduating from college, Cain took a job as a civilian mathematician for the U.S. Navy in Dahlgreen, Va. A spokesman confirmed that the job exempted Cain from the military draft of that era “for a while” – but that his lottery number was never called.

– On orders from his father, Cain said he stayed away from the “trouble” of the civil rights movement. But Cain describes his father, a private chauffeur for Coke CEO executive and philanthropist Robert Woodruff, as anything but a pantywaist.

For anyone familiar with the South at that time, the most fascinating anecdote in Cain book deals with Woodruff’s gifts to the Cain family. Cash at first, then Coke stock. The man in charge of Woodruff’s finances, a white fellow identified as Joe Jones, objected:

One day Dad said to Jones, “Mr. Jones, I’d like to see you outside for a minute.” They walked out to the driveway and Dad said, “Do you see this gun I’m carrying?” – Dad had a permit to carry one because he was with Woodruff – “Do you know how good I can shoot this gun?”

“No,” Joe Jones replied.

“I can throw a silver dollar up in the air and hit it four times before it hits the ground. That’s how good a shot I am,” my dad said. “if you ever tell Mr. Woodruff not to do something for me again, you’re going to find out how good I am with this gun!”

There are many, many exclamation marks in the book.

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We’ve got a copy of the final draft of that Georgia Fruit and Vegetable Growers Association study of the economic impact of the state’s new illegal immigration bill. Click here to see it.

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There was a whole lotta blinking going on Thursday. Does it not strike you as ironic that while this was going on:

For most of the day, the governor’s office said Deal would not act until the little-used and much-vilified lanes have operated for a full month. But a late-afternoon press release promised immediate action.

“In the short term, the toll rate will lower — starting with Thursday afternoon’s commute,” the release said. The reduction will amount to more than 40 percent, Deal spokesman Brian Robinson [said].

….this was, too?

A project that could have built a rail line from MARTA’s Arts Center station to the Cumberland area of Cobb County lost $167.5 million in regional funding from the proposed project list. Instead, that money would go to road projects — such as an interchange at I-75 and Windy Hill Road….

The Cumberland line was the last construction project on the list capable of breaking the borders of Atlanta’s Fulton and DeKalb rail district, established four decades ago with the MARTA system.

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The team that has stepped up investigations of judges in Georgia is getting a little push-back. From Richard Belcher and Channel 2 Action News:

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At the Georgia National Fair down in Perry this weekend, state senators will be competing with House members to discover which chamber is better at trotting out a little bull.

Yes, 4-Hers, we know we got the gender wrong. But the metaphor was that tempting. Runner-up was, “And a little bull shall lead them, as it always does.”

Each team of lawmakers will actually be tasked with showing off a heifer. We’re standing by for photos.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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139 comments Add your comment

Best Regards

October 7th, 2011
9:52 am

Herman Cain was a draft-dodger.

Retired Solider

October 7th, 2011
10:05 am

Best-

If that’s the “best” you have, give it up.

Centrist

October 7th, 2011
10:05 am

We got our expected hit job on Herman Cain.

Missing “Political Insider” items that don’t fit with Galloway’s leftist politics -

Obama’s jobs bill has been held up by the Democratically controlled Senate while VP Biden and the media have blamed Republicans.

Yesterday’s AJC article about how the metro area must be a sanctuary for ILLEGAL immigrants as reported the school systems didn’t see a predicted drop, yet south Georgia farmers were heralded in the AJC the day before over having sadly lost so many ILLEGAL workers.

AJC article – State sues for approval of new legislative maps

“With a Democratic president, Georgia Republicans’ decision to go first to court is not a surprise. It’s also not the first time the state choose that route. In 2001, then-ruling Democrats also bypassed the Republican-led Justice Department, although the move may not have helped much. The courts tossed out much of the Democrats’ plan as being unconstitutional.”

Left out of the T-SPLOST reference -

“We responded to public input,” said Cobb County Commission Chairman Tim Lee.

[Note that Lee was going to be challenged for re-election by former Cobb County Commission Chairman Bill Burns if that boondoggle rail line remained on the list.]

Yet ANOTHER hand wringing article today by the AJC concerning the (very popular) anti-ILLEGAL immigration bill:

“Immigration law could snarl routine business”

Funny AJC headline: “Summer ends with hiring burst”

What would this headline have been under Bush?

Details:

Unemployment remains @ 9.1% because these jobs only keep up with the rising population.

Half of the gains are from 45,000+ returning VERIZON strikers.

Congress has debated this year whether taxpayers should provide a half-billion dollars for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (which in turn, funds PBS and NPR). House Republicans proposed on September 29 that the federal funding for CPB should end. Fiscally, it’s an obviously non-essential expense in an era of trillion-dollar deficits. PBS and NPR programmers lurch hard to the left which pleases liberal Democrats, radical-left activists, and of course the AJC. Defunding CPB would not stop liberal bias, but it would stop the outrage of conservatives (and Americans in general like me) being forced to fund fervent attacks on them with their own taxpayer dollars.

Senate Majority Leader Reid used the so called “nuclear option” (which I agree with) last night to limit some follow-on filibusters. It may come back to bite Democrats if/when the Republicans win back the Senate.

Buzzfan®

October 7th, 2011
10:06 am

OccupyAtlanta is going to have a Georgia Tech event….

It will be called OccupyRSquared.

kaycee

October 7th, 2011
10:09 am

Doesn’t someone actually have to take steps to avoid the draft to be considered a draft-dodger? Working in a deferred job or occupation doesn’t seem to fit the bill.

cartoon

October 7th, 2011
10:10 am

Herman Cain is old-school religion and politics. Not so much fire and brimstone as a liar and a hymnal phony. He is at first blush unelectable. Then you want to look for the strings holding him up. Then you follow the money to old school GOP coffers and realize that he’s a puppet in black face, serving as a vote stealing uncle dong, (as in long dong silver) and isn’t it funny that Anita Hill all of a sudden reappears to tell everyone how happy she is, and to remind us all that coke cans aren’t just for pubes anymore.

:But what is more important is the fact that the same % of folks who drink pepsi remember the quote as a “pube on a pepsi can”, vs the same % of folks who drink Coke remember the testimony as a “pube on a coke can”.

This is very significant because it proves people are total nitwits. and sex is the reason we vote, love, and buy.

Fact. Jack.

Becky

October 7th, 2011
10:14 am

I just don’t understand why the yahoo Herman is getting this much attention from the media. He has never been elected to anything. Are the repubs really this desperate they cannot find anyone better?

foodfight

October 7th, 2011
10:22 am

I am waiting for Occupy Snellville.

td

October 7th, 2011
10:29 am

How many of the left wingnut posters on this blog will be in the middle of Occupy Atlanta?

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
10:29 am

Wow, those poor farmers. They have been hit hard by the labor shortage.

Georgia has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. The blogs were filled with stories about how the illegal immigrants were stealing American jobs. EmoConservatives everywhere were claiming the jobs would be filled by eager Americans anxious to get to work.

You let the farmers down Tea Party. None of the Tea Party faithful have claimed any of the many job openings.

Tea Party what happened? Why are crops rotting on the vines? Where is everyone?

Retired Solider

October 7th, 2011
10:30 am

Becky-

Then you should be rejoicing about Herman since he as no chance to defeat the great Obama. This election is about Obama and his job performance, or lack there of. If Obama is judged to be lacking, and I think he will be, then almost any republican candidate, including Cain, can and will beat Obama.

cartoon- What a racist view. You need to take a good look at yourself.

RGB

October 7th, 2011
10:33 am

Drive-by journalism prevails again today.

Jim – At least have the guts to definitively state your sentiments on the matter. Do you believe that all men between certain birthdates MUST have served in Vietnam or they are cowards? Do you believe that no one should have received a deferment? Would a presidential candidate with a bad economic policy who did serve in Vietnam be more virtuous than someone who didn’t serve but who possesses sound economic ideas? How about someone who didn’t serve in the military who also has bad economic and foreign policy ideas? Hint: BHO.

Libs like to denounce the Vietnam War then denounce people they hand-pick who didn’t serve–regardless of the situation.

Tomorrow you can chide Mr. Cain for not serving as an astronaut in the NASA program. The next day you can gig him for not serving in the Peace Corps (pronounced “corpse” by our Ivy League president).

Centrist

October 7th, 2011
10:34 am

@ td – Although I won’t be going to Occupy Atlanta – some of my centrist views understand part of their frustration. Just like the TEA Party, many of the protestors oppose the bank, TARP, and AIG bailouts – especially the huge bonuses they gave out from tax dollars. Getting fired from an executive suite for incompetence yields dozens or hundreds of millions of dollars in golden parachutes. VP Biden was honest this week when he admitted the “the middle class got screwed”.

RGB

October 7th, 2011
10:40 am

“I just don’t understand why the yahoo Herman is getting this much attention from the media. He has never been elected to anything.”

Precisely.

Cain has no experience in creating the regulations, tax policies, and toxic environment that created 20 million unemployed, an near-irreparable financial situation, and reduced our political standing in the world.

But he has met a payroll. He’s smart. His character is sound. In these areas Mr. Cain is experienced.

And if you, fellow bloggers, have ever sold a cup of lemonade at a lemonade stand–you have more private sector experience than our sitting president (who said Solyndra was the future of our economy. You know, he was right.)

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
10:43 am

You’re doing a heck of a job Georgia Republicans!

Crops are rotting in the fields. Unemployment is still waaay up here. Banks still failing. DOT is paralyzed. 2 million dollar signature loans. Georgia Power giveaways. Biggest tax hike in Georgia history courtesy of the Republicans. Lake levels dropping. Embarrassing tax code re-writes. The Tea Party governor spends all his time in DC begging for strings attached pork projects.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
10:45 am

Cain isn’t smart. Have you ever talked to him? He’s a moron…and there’s no telling what his chauffer-father knew worth getting such a good payoff.

findog

October 7th, 2011
10:50 am

Centrist, if he had let out the part where the US Government exempted him from the draft then you might, just might, have standing to complain. To this day the federal government designates members of the National Guard and Reserve who are in occupations that are exempt from deployment much like the position Mr. Cain held.
Where is the hit job?
You were probably one of the whiny snits who went after Senator Kerry’s Vietnam service while ignoring that the President had abandoned his post during a time of war and if he were not treated different would of: a, never gotten a pilot slot; and b, been activated to serve the remaining time he signed up for on active service, unless discharged under less than honorable circumstances like many Vietnam Era guard and reservists who just didn’t want to attend drill anymore…

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
10:54 am

We need someone with successful business experience to lead America back to prosperity. No political experience preferred. Elect Herman Cain (R) say the Tea Party/Republicans in Georgia.

Georgia governor on the other hand is the opposite. Even though the Georgia economy was a disaster Republican/Tea Party types insisted on electing someone that failed as a businessman and was bankrupt. Political experience PREFERRED in this case. Elected Nathan Deal (R)

As usual Republicans make no sense.

clem

October 7th, 2011
10:55 am

td, how many dumb arse tp demos did you attend?

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td

October 7th, 2011
11:05 am

clem

October 7th, 2011
10:55 am
td, how many dumb arse tp demos did you attend?

I was not paid by Soros and the unions like these nutjobs will be so I did not go to any.

KID

October 7th, 2011
11:08 am

Obama all the way in 2012!!!

td

October 7th, 2011
11:08 am

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
10:54 am

I have two words for you “Roy Barnes”. Deal has been ten time the governor in one session as Barnes was in 4 years.

If you are not willing to blame Obama for the national unemployment and the national economy then you can not blame Deal for Georgia’s problems. Are you going to blame Obama?

The Snark

October 7th, 2011
11:12 am

Too bad Herman Cain’s father isn’t running. Him I might vote for.

The Snark

October 7th, 2011
11:17 am

RGB: Don’t consider myself a “lib,” whatever that means to you, but I will observe that an unusual number of present-day right-wing politicians who wave the flag and pound the table for “strong defense” managed to avoid active duty service during the Viet Nam War (Gingrich, Cheney, etc.) There’s nothing hypocritical about liberals pointing that out, whether they opposed the war or not.

findog

October 7th, 2011
11:18 am

td @ 11:06
In four years Governor Barnes: went after teacher tenure, changed the 1956 flag, tried to add the Northern Arc to relieve congestion on the three of four busiest sections of interstate in Georgia.
What has Governor Deal done that would hurt his reelection chances for the good of Georgia as a whole in the last legislative session, I’ll even throw in the special session.

AG - The Original

October 7th, 2011
11:24 am

Please – if it is not the government’s job to create jobs, then stop hanging the president with unemployment. You can’t have it both ways.

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
11:32 am

“If you are not willing to blame Obama for the national unemployment and the national economy then you can not blame Deal for Georgia’s problems. Are you going to blame Obama?”

Where did you come up with all that td? My point was simple. Georgia Republicans elected a bankrupt career politician last year as their governor.

Now they are telling us that we need a businessman with no political experience to lead the country.

Which is is Georgia Republican/Tea people, you all seem confused again.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
11:33 am

Our economy would be prospering now if Obama had seen to hanging Bush and Cheney for 9/11, rather than just gulling us into voting for him by alluding to it in “Audacity of Hope.”

G-d is not mocked. The DC Quake was just a warning to us all.

clem

October 7th, 2011
11:34 am

td, but you probably got supported by Koch crowd

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
11:45 am

G-d will bless Georgia as Gov. Deal works to end the Roman Anti-Christ’s organized and published invasion for conquest of America. attempted through the protection and promotion of illegal immigration.

The South fought the Roman Catholic, Organized Crime cannon-fodder 150 years ago, which succeeded in nailing the symbol of Fascism to the front wall of the U.S. House. It appears G-d’s plan may be a redemption as Black and White Southerners, together, Baptist and Freemason, stem Rome’s tide today.

Our blessings come from G-d. The South knows it and is fighting the Roman Anti-Christ/Amalek accordingly.

“The string to Heaven is shortest from Atlanta.”

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
11:46 am

“Please – if it is not the government’s job to create jobs, then stop hanging the president with unemployment. You can’t have it both ways.”

Michigan is doing a great job bringing back, gasp, union jobs. Texas has gained jobs since the recession, so has, gasp, California.

The US lost 8 million jobs under Bush but have been bring them back the last 2 years. How fast are you supposed to get those jobs back? In fact the private sector has even better results. Government jobs have been declining, last month alone another 35,000 government jobs were lost bring down the net gain.

Georgia on the other hand is still going down. THIS JUST IN……

Since Detroit is now rising up and Georgia is still at the bottom, Georgia will now be the new insult. For instance, “Ha, ha, look at your state, you’re going to be the next Georgia!” Please update your talking points, thanks Republicans/Tea Party.

hiram bronson granbury

October 7th, 2011
11:47 am

For those of you wringing your hands over the monumental losses being incurred in Georgia’s 7 billion dollar farm industry, let’s see what percentage is actual rotting in the fields. You may note that the often cited blueberry crop represents 0.4 % of farm revenue. It isn’t a surprise that the illegal alien lobby doesn’t put the numbers in context.

Georgia’s leading commodities for cash receipts
Product Value ($1,000) % State Value
1.Broilers(9-12 week old chickens) 2,857,580 46.8%
2.Cotton 487,410 8.0%
3.Cattle and calves 395,833 6.5%
4.Chicken eggs 394,223 6.5%
5. Peanuts 347,700 5.7%
6.Greenhouse/nursery 322,981 5.3%
7.Dairy products 235,536 3.9%
8. Onions 88,595 1.5%
9.Tobacco 86,426 1.4%
10.Hogs 84,793 1.4%
11. Pecans 78,060 1.3%
12.Corn for grain 69,474 1.1%
13. Corn, sweet 46,656 0.8%
14.Soybeans 45,442 0.7%
15.Tomatoes 44,370 0.7%
16. Squash 33,350 0.5%
17. Peaches 33,017 0.5%
18.Wheat 29,526 0.5%
19. Cabbage 27,500 0.5%
20. Watermelons 26,565 0.4%
21.Hay 26,257 0.4%
22. Blueberries 23,770 0.4%
23. Cantaloups 18,810 0.3%
Cucumbers *
Beans, snap *
*Commodities at the bottom of the above ranked list of commodities and having no accompanying data would have appeared within the ranked list of leading commodities, but were excluded to avoid disclosure of confidential information about individual producers.
Source: USDA:Economic Research Service

Tom (Independent)

October 7th, 2011
11:49 am

Best Regards@9:52 – Just curious, did you serve? Tell the truth, I know that is hard for you Libs.

Tom (Independent)

October 7th, 2011
11:51 am

Obama served, Community Organizer does count, right?

Centrist

October 7th, 2011
11:53 am

@ hiram – thanks for the figures.

Liberals ignore such stats, since they get in the way of their opinions.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
11:56 am

I served…Herman Cain, like Mitt Romney, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich, etc., was a draft-dodger.

Jon Lester

October 7th, 2011
11:57 am

Jim, shouldn’t the publisher have mailed you a copy of the book for review? Not doing so kind of resembles a film being released without an advance screening for critics, which is never a good sign.

DannyX (Republican)

October 7th, 2011
11:57 am

“Obama served, Community Organizer does count, right?”

Hey Tom (”Independent”) have you met our resident “Centrist,” you 2 have a lot in common.

Btw, I joined the Republican Party today.

Centrist

October 7th, 2011
12:02 pm

From the AJC – this will frost Galloway’s pumpkin since not everyone in Cobb County government condones ILLEGAL immigration abuse and lying to police:

Judge: Colotl “back to square one”

A former Kennesaw State University student whose case became a flashpoint for debate on illegal immigration is once again in jeopardy of getting a criminal conviction.

Bootnewt

October 7th, 2011
12:03 pm

Cain is like his biblical name-sake: Both of ‘em declare “Am I my brother’s keeper?”

hiram bronson granbury

October 7th, 2011
12:04 pm

YW Centrist
The principal illegal alien lobbyists are the poultry, carpet and hospitality industry, but they use the crops rottting in the fields nonsense to garner symphathy from the ignorant, and the journalists are more than happy to distort the facts and sensationalize the non-story for them. BTW, a high percentage of the blueberries are harvested mechanically, or in u-pick farms. The lobbyists will say anything to try and keep their cheap taxpayer subsidized labor.

Red

October 7th, 2011
12:06 pm

The Snark – so you are saying people who advocate strong defense need to have served? OK, then those who advocate for more taxes on the rich need to be rich first. Or those calling for corporate taxes need to own corporations. Or those who say the rich should pay their fair share of taxes need to pay taxes themselves.

AG – your statement makes no sense. Unemployment is the process of KILLING JOBS. Obama has done far more to kill jobs or the prospect of creating jobs than any recent President. Stop demonizing those who can create jobs. Stop the pointless regulations that hurt job growth.

Retired Solider

October 7th, 2011
12:07 pm

Jim Gallowy-

Where and when did you serve? Seems to me if you are going to cast stones you should have set the example.

Retired Solider

October 7th, 2011
12:09 pm

well stated red

mum

October 7th, 2011
12:10 pm

Could a black man threaten to shoot a white man and get away with it back then given how Georgia was?

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
12:11 pm

Lol at all the south Georgia politicians that turned Republican at the sniff of a power shift.

How’s that one party rule thingy working out for you now??

Retired Solider

October 7th, 2011
12:12 pm

Great DannyX, thanks for asking.

Centrist

October 7th, 2011
12:14 pm

@ hiram posted “The principal illegal alien lobbyists are the poultry, carpet and hospitality industry, but they use the crops rottting in the fields nonsense to garner symphathy from the ignorant, and the journalists are more than happy to distort the facts and sensationalize the non-story for them.”

Why don’t the journalists sob about all the carpets which will rot in the mills, chickens that won’t get slaughtered, or hotel rooms which won’t get cleaned by noon?

Frederick Douglass

October 7th, 2011
12:15 pm

Herman’s story about his dad is likely a lie, Pops Cain was probably much like his progeny.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
12:15 pm

He is a faithless oath-breaker and a witting or unwitting agent of the Roman Anti-Christ’s Fifth Column who swore on his life “to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic,” yet does nothing to bring to justice Bush and Cheney for 9/11 (Viz. “The New Pearl Harbor,” Griffin, Ph.D.) or Bush’s father for the assassination of President Kennedy to send 58,000 of us to die for the 5% Roman Catholic slave aristocracy of Vietnam, fighting Ho Chi Minh, who loved America and Thomas Jefferson.

Frederick Douglass

October 7th, 2011
12:17 pm

mum @12:10

To answer your question, a resounding NO.

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
12:23 pm

Great! Says Retired Soldier, (thanks for your service.)

We have crops rotting in the south. We have Gwinnett County in an uproar over yet another toll road fiasco. Republicans are proposing the largest tax increase in Georgia history. Lake levels are dropping, AGAIN. Lower corporate taxes seemed to have worsened unemployment. Georgia Power receives monthly socialist style gifts from residential users every month. Banks are still closing. We have Republican leaders getting 2 million dollar signature “Because its FREE!” loans. Our Governor is begging for strings attached federal deficit pork dollars.

It makes me almost ashamed to be a Republican.

Tea Party Hobbit

October 7th, 2011
12:33 pm

Will Jones…he served the military as a civilian. How do you know that wasn’t the best use for him? As a skilled mathematician/engineer, how can you know that he might not have saved countless soldiers’ lives? Of course, the military does not figure those kind of numbers, but it’s not like Herman ran for Canada or something.

I have utmost respect for anyone who did serve. My father enlisted rather than waiting for the draft, but he also was not an engineer and did not have any skills (history major) that would have helped the military in any technical fashion.

This country already elected a draft-dodger (Clinton), so it’s a moot point anyway. At least so long as the candidate isn’t saying he hates America or something…

Bill Campbell

October 7th, 2011
12:39 pm

Anyone who says anything about Herman Cain is a racist!

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
12:40 pm

Cain is a moron. He filled a position gained by a Woodruff connection to dodge the draft like so many other “well-connected.” This is why he didn’t mention Vietnam though he graduated in ‘67. He’s a draft-dodger and no man given his Godfather Pizza job to get him out of the corporate offices he was in as window dressing.

honested

October 7th, 2011
12:48 pm

I don’t really care what happens to the illegals and I believe they should be allowed to quietly go home,
however, what’s up with you firm illegal bashers and your refusal to hold the employers responsible and give them long prison sentences?

As for cain’s book, the original notion on this thread, I predict that within 6 months it will be as irrelevant as newt’s first book that was sold to funders at 10k a copy (and became toilet paper) or whatever nonsense forgotten failed politicians such as dan quayle published (with lots of help from people who could read and write).

honested

October 7th, 2011
12:55 pm

cain’s military involvement or lack thereof is entirely irrelevant, as is his pointless ‘candidacy’.

Steve

October 7th, 2011
1:03 pm

So working for the US Navy during the Vietnam War is draft dodging? Applying for the draft and not being called up is draft dodging?

I would call you a liar Jim but I think you already know you are.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
1:03 pm

Punishing employers of illegals, across the board, is fine and I’m not “bashing” illegals, many of whom are good, decent, hard-working people.

The “problem” is that they are pawns, albeit many nice, warm, friendly ones, in an army of conquest orchestrated and strategized by the historic entity America’s Founder and Prophet correctly identified as “the real Anti-Christ.”

Never wonder that only the Roman Catholics misread the Constitution and settle law to appoint a homosexual draft-dodger to the White House to commit 9/11 and greet his lover, James Guckert/”Jeff Gannon” for documented overnights?

Never wonder that only the Roman Catholics voted in the majority in the anti-American ‘Citizens United’ abomination placing corporations over the People?

Corporatism is a euphemism for Fascism. The Fasces is the symbol of Rome’s power and authority placed on the front wall of the U.S. House by the Roman Catholic victors in the Civil War.

Never wonder that Congress, on both parties, is controlled by the Roman Catholics one-third, with all other sects divided?

“They” know what “they” are doing…and gaslighting the rest of us as their fascist plutocracy steals all our money and ships our factories and jobs overseas while promoting illegal immigration to break the People.

hiram bronson granbury

October 7th, 2011
1:03 pm

honested said…

“what’s up with you firm illegal bashers and your refusal to hold the employers responsible and give them long prison sentences?”

I have always reserved most of my contempt for the employers and their paid enablers, the politicians. Most of all, I don’t understand the liberals’ support of this group(the employers). After all, that is who they are acutally aligned with. And, how do they ignore the devasting impact on the black community. What ever progress the blacks have made has been jerked out from under them by the illegal alien invasion, especially into the SE , black belt, where the majority of blacks live. Another thing that is being ignored is the massive negative environmental impact, which is a traditional liberal cause, but totally ignored in this case. It has set our schools back 50 years, and on and on. What is the pay off for liberals, other than the Catholic church?

td

October 7th, 2011
1:08 pm

hiram bronson granbury

October 7th, 2011
1:03 pm

Very true and well said. The African Americans raised he!! for years and still do in Calf when the Koreans came in and bought up all the businesses but have not said a word in the SE when the illegals have come and displaced them from manufacturing jobs.

mum

October 7th, 2011
1:16 pm

td, you fail to mention that this has been our history of upward mobility, regardless of who complains or not. You may not have heard the complaits from the black community but it’s been out there, it’s just that nobody cares. If people in the “community” can’t come together to open businesses, someone else typically does. Whites are afraid to be in black neighborhoods, Asians on the other hand do it all the time. Strange dynamic given that they don’t even speak the language and many times, they are in neighborhoods that the police don’t even want to be in.

Which manufacturing jobs are you referring to that illegals took from blacks? I thought those that paid any decent money we already shipped overseas, and all that was left were the chicken processing and farm labor.

KJ

October 7th, 2011
1:17 pm

so sad about the rail project. roads are the answer and never will be. Atlanta will keep losing jobs to Charlotte until the racists in cobb county shut up and let rail come into. Do you not know “crime” can hop in a car and drive up 75 to your rich homes in north and east cobb far easier than hopping on a train. for the record this is a white guy from cherokee county who longs for a day when rail will reach the suburbs like every other major city in the country.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
1:18 pm

The Anti-Christ rule over the American People now, through both the Demublican and the Republicrats. White and Black “leaders” form the “interface” with fascist plutocracy.

Hopefully this “Occupy” movement will pick up on just who the 1% is and that they are tory traitors requiring the same disposition our ancestors afforded them in 1776.

Tom (Independent)

October 7th, 2011
1:21 pm

DannyX – Why does it bother you when I say Obama served as a Community Organizer. It is the truth, right? I’m not being mean-spirited just stating a fact. H Cain was a CEO of a Pizza Co., now does that fact hurt also? I just believe us(Independents) will decide the election in 2012!!

Centrist

October 7th, 2011
1:25 pm

@ hiram posted “What is the pay off for liberals, other than the Catholic church?”

I certainly agree that the enabling employers who only seek lower labor costs are equally as guilty and should suffer consequences (other than now having to pay the going rates). But in answer to your question – liberals want their votes. Illegal votes now with false registration, and anchor children’s votes when they become of age. Liberals have few values – the ends justify the means in their leftist minds. Examples abound in these posts where they call names, attack and bait other posters, use profanity, ignore statistics, and habitually show their mean spiritedness. (I’ve learned to ignore the worst of them)

oldfart

October 7th, 2011
1:32 pm

You politicos are missing the boat on the deployment of Hell On Transportation lane in Gwinnett and the remaining 16 Billion dollars to be spent for expanding them metro wide. The Dems should be making hay while the sun shines on this boondoggle brought to us by a Republican appointed DOT. The R’s should be circling their wagons and exploring how to ditch this protection racket tax burdening their core constituencies in the burbs.

What we have seen with the actual implementation of the HOV lanes that were supposedly to reduce overall emissions is that enforcement of violators causes so much congestion that the HOV lane also backs up. If someone would do an honest study I can’t help but think this additional congestion that tacks on extra minutes of exhaust multiplied by several thousands of vehicles actually increases the emissions. Now we all bemoan the blue light observers and in conversation its always the other guy but it is an absolute fact that blue lights during heavy commute times cause back ups. This cannot be disputed. The only argument would be how much time on average each blue light adds to the commute time.

Now even the HOV lane has been sacrificed to create the HOT lane and built into the budget is the manpower to enforce its use or abuse. The rates for the lane vary upon the amount of congestion. The blue lights cause congestion helping drive those rates up and create more demand for the HOT lane. This is plainly a protection racket run by the state.

Now the state has latched on the federal teat to “build” this lane that already existed to the tune of tens of millions for this one corridor. Deal is getting enough heat to back off on the rates temporarily. This has to be as a result of a groundswell of “his” people getting to him as he had proclaimed earlier that he would give it a month before any changes would be considered. He was also quick to point out that part of the deal for teat access prohibits the allowance of 2 person vehicles that are now added back to the regular lanes.

The proponents are mouthing to give it time and wait for the downtrodden to accept that they are going to have to pay to play. This also will give great incentive to vote for TSPLOST don’t you know. The media has been “balanced” in quoting these proponents along with the detractors when to a person I have yet to find a commuter on the I85 corridor who is in favor of this deterioration of their commutes. Sure, people will get accustomed to the entrances and exits eventually but there is no obvious answer to the blue lights that will have to be there to stem the abusers. I’ve noticed in the paltry coverage given so far by the AJC that the proponents all seem tied to various committees or agencies. I call for an investigation of why the public hearings were whitewashed and who is profiting from these billions to add some sensors, signs and paint.

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
1:42 pm

“But in answer to your question – liberals want their votes”

Right because Dream Act Perry would never dream of pandering to 38% of his population. Never.

Don’t forget Republican governors from the recent past Jeb Bush, George W Bush, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Were they centrist or liberal, them panderers.

And don’t forget Ronald Reagan. the Padre of our country. Padre gave amnesty to millions and gave them a more liberal earned income credit. Another liberal?

mum

October 7th, 2011
1:45 pm

@Centrist, still waiting for you to give examples of the “illegals’ who have been identified as voting in elections. You’ve been making these assertions for a long time now but never back up with any verifiable data.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
1:49 pm

The RCC runs illegal immigration across Latin America, pushing, and sheltering them, here.

The RCC is the center post of the Right Wing.

America is a “left” experiment. “Whig” means “anti-Roman Catholic.”

Individual sovereignty (Annuit Coeptis), The People sovereign as One (E Pluribus Unum), ruled by Truth, Justice, and Reason, alone under the Creator, only, without a titled nobility or mystery priesthood is perfectly anti-Right Wing.

Get your facts straight or just admit you’re fascists caught having to oppose the illegal immigration of your co-religionists.

td

October 7th, 2011
1:50 pm

mum

October 7th, 2011
1:45 pm

If you do not believe illegals are voting in elections then I have some ocean front property in Gilmer county I want to sell you. Everyone knows it and everyone seems to be ignoring the fact. Do you really think they just get forged documents to get a GA DL and a job and do not vote? I am hoping someone like the Koch brothers will pay for an investigation or Bret Biehart will uncover these facts because the lame stream media or the Holder justice department will never do an investigation.

cartoon

October 7th, 2011
1:57 pm

and the term wingnut is for the Right only.

moron

Centrist

October 7th, 2011
2:00 pm

@ mum – are you suggesting ALL of the fake registrations ACORN (and other groups did) were caught? Did you see the statistics of how much money the IRS has paid to ILLEGAL immigrants who have false Social Security numbers which is enough to register to vote? I doubt registrars or district attorneys look for such voter frauds who gave false addresses – they merely purge them from voting roles when they are CAUGHT. I’m not playing your game of prove it – we both know there is a LOT of ILLEGAL alien voter fraud.

td

October 7th, 2011
2:01 pm

cartoon

October 7th, 2011
1:57 pm
and the term wingnut is for the Right only.

moron

If you do not like wingnut then how about lib/progressive/socialist/communist? Whiny pantie waste? Give me, give me people? Just pick the name you prefer?

GaBlue

October 7th, 2011
2:08 pm

td @ 1:50,

–”Everyone knows it and everyone seems to be ignoring the fact.” — Actually, NOT everyone knows that. If your claim were true, then (a) your statement would not be necessary, and (b) you’d be able to site sources to support this alleged “fact.”

– “Do you really think they just get forged documents to get a GA DL and a job and do not vote?” –
Uh, yeah. Those who get a DL do it so they can work. Why would they risk their meager incomes by drawing more attention to themselves by registering to vote, and then showing up at the polls under fraudulent circumstances? What would they possibly have to gain by that? Like, did they imagine they’d put Roy Barnes over the top last year and he’d somehow give them all green cards? GEEZ, what a stupid assumption!

– ” I am hoping someone like the Koch brothers will pay for an investigation or Bret Biehart will uncover these facts…..” — Spoken like a true corporate “egg” sucker, td. Know the difference between a wh-o-re and a sl-ut? The first one negotiates the price beforehand. The second keeps doing in the hopes that her devotion will be rewarded one day. I hope you’re not the second kind of billionaire defender!

mum

October 7th, 2011
2:17 pm

@Centrist, if you make accusations you need to back them up. I vote at every election and I’ve never been asked to show my SS as ID. Where ever did you get that one from?

Why would you want the Koch brother to investigate anyone given their track record of doing business with Iran all these years and now saying it wasn’t their fault. Or, the fact that they’re putting money into local, not national, elections so they can get people they want elected. Are you really willing to completely sell-out your country to the highest bidder?

Tom (Independent)

October 7th, 2011
2:18 pm

DannyX – I’ve read your blogs, ravings or whatever you chose to call them. You are a sad human being from reading your postings.Sounds like you would be happier living in Baghdad or Pakistan? Are you a Dem, Repub, lib,conser or just a plain old know-it all grouch? No way you could have ever served in the military, not the US military anyway!

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
2:21 pm

“DannyX – I’ve read your blogs, ravings or whatever you chose to call them.”

Thanks Tom.

deegee

October 7th, 2011
2:29 pm

Oh, yes. So many illegal aliens have voted that they are swinging elections and getting ummmm, let’s see… HB87 in Georgia, HB56 in Alabama, SB1070 and HB2162 in Arizona, SB590 in Indiana, H116, H466, H469 and H49 in Utah, and S20 in South Carolina. They have gotten 400,000 deportations in 2010. Oh, yes, it’s so obvious to people like td that illegal aliens are jamming the ballot boxes.

td, don’t you have some pencil pushers you need to go supervise?

deegee

October 7th, 2011
2:41 pm

The only voter fraud I know of first hand is in my extended family. My sister in law drives her parents from their primary residence in Texas to their secondary residence in Louisiana every year to vote. They feel that their R vote is more important in Louisiana than in Texas. These voter fraud perpetrators watch Fox News day in and day out.

HR Pufnstuf

October 7th, 2011
2:41 pm

Herman Cain’s dad was the person chauffeur for the most powerful businessman in his day, and there is no chance that Mr. Woodruff didn’t make a personal phone call on Herman’s behalf to the draft board?
He didn’t do any other favors for the Cain family, right?

Btw, did anyone see the hand made signs pasted across the windows in a Wall Street building on tv? The signs read, “WE ARE THE 1%.” Now that is some gall.

FrankieJ

October 7th, 2011
2:49 pm

Wal Mart has his book

deegee

October 7th, 2011
2:54 pm

So you are telling us that Herman Cain’s family got rich on stock that was GIVEN to them by Woodruff? This is how Herman “pull yourself up from your bootstraps” Cain went to Morehouse? What a fraud.

Will

October 7th, 2011
3:08 pm

Does it surprise you that the pizza salesman running for president was a draft dodger?

Why? Almost without exception, all the Vietnam War era politicians were draft dodgers. Oh, let’s be more politically correct and make them feel a little better and refer to them as “draft avoiders”.

Centrist

October 7th, 2011
3:12 pm

@ mum and GaBlue – for the last time, I’m not going to play your game of “prove it”. I explained how ILLEGALS REGISTER to vote with fake ID including false social security cards. Every state has different ID registration requirements. Actually voting requires very little or no ID in most “blue” states which is NOT coincidental. Look here: http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=16602

Registration is where the fraud is sometimes caught – not when voting. But I think you know that.

Tea Party Hobbit

October 7th, 2011
3:21 pm

deegee, just because he went to college on gift money doesn’t mean that his family got rich from them. from other things he has said on his radio show, etc., they just knew best value was for their kids’ education.

Do you normally loathe trust fund babies? Realize that most of them turn out to be lily white liberal elitists…

Herman got rich on his own hard work and natural talents. I am glad that he loves his country enough to try to make a change, when he could easily just retire today and be set for the rest of his life.

Jack

October 7th, 2011
3:22 pm

It’s funny to see the Libs squirm because they can’t play the race card with Cain.

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
3:28 pm

“Realize that most of them turn out to be lily white liberal elitists…”

Those lily white liberal elitists (rip Jobs,) sure have you interested in their businesses don’t they? Admit it, you can’t get enough liberal elitist culture can you?

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
3:29 pm

Cain “loves his country so much” he avoided the honor of doing sworn, military service with 9.2 million other Americans, preferring the ranks of craven hypocrites like Isakson, Chambliss, Romney, Gingrich, Quayle, Bush, and virtually all other “Republican” Vietnam “susceptible” politicians.

Fascist plutocracy’s “men” don’t want to be made to feel uncomfortable having to try to buy politicians with any character. They prefer the company of draft-dodging panty-waists, closet-queens, perverts and murdering thieves of their own ilk.

vietnamvet

October 7th, 2011
3:34 pm

I was in a college in the AU Center about the same time Herman was there. I participated in the civil rights movement- attended rallies, marched, around the state capitol and Rich’s with signs calling for the end of racism. Moreover, I was drafted before I graduated from college. The issue is not left or right. Here is the issue: Did he answer the twin calls of his generation, VIETNAM and Civil Rights Movement? I served in VIETNAM and participated in the CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. He did not. Yet, he wants to lead the country. In passing, when I returned from duty in VIETNAM ,with a college degree, I was denied a job because I was BLACK.

Rep. elected drunk driving draft dodgers who are against Civil Rights and Equal Rights (AA) to high office. Are they BRAINWASHED?????????

We need to elect STATESMEN and WOMEN to elective office. This business/executive is Rep/GOP Bull S#@*t.

DannyX

October 7th, 2011
3:38 pm

Daddy could have gotten 100 million cash from Woodruff but Daddy still would not be able to buy a house next Woodruff. Daddy could forget about buying a house just about anywhere in Dekalb and most of Atlanta. Deed restrictions requiring caucasian ownership will do that.

JV

October 7th, 2011
3:43 pm

Herman Cain being talked down. Imagine that. How about a comparison?

Obama’s financial training = NONE
Obama’s private sector job experience = NONE
Obama’s business experience = NONE
Obama’s prior management experience = NONE
Obama’s military experience = NONE
Obama’s diplomatic experience = NONE

Now remind me what qualifies Obama as President OTHER than inspiring low lifes, dimwits, and parasites to go to the polls in droves. It is really a matter of greed by government and class envy from the small minded people who put him in office.

Tea Party Hobbit

October 7th, 2011
3:44 pm

vietnamvet,

With all due respect, I have not seen a true statesman or stateswoman in politics for quite some time now…what they have been replaced with is unacceptable. Mr. Cain may not be perfect, but he’s a big step above this political class that has come to feel entitled to their power.

Justin

October 7th, 2011
3:44 pm

@ Jack

October 7th, 2011
3:22 pm

It’s funny to see the Libs squirm because they can’t play the race card with Cain.

No one needs to play the race card with Cain, because he’s doing a fine job of it himself? In just a matter of weeks he’s accused Perry of not taking action against the N word on a rock. Then he says African-Americans are brainwashed for supporting the Democrats. Now if that is not pulling the race card to ignite your campaign then what is?

GaBlue

October 7th, 2011
3:47 pm

vietnamvet @ 3:34,

Thank you for your service, both in our military, and to the conscience of our nation!

deegee

October 7th, 2011
3:49 pm

“from other things he has said on his radio show, etc., they just knew best value was for their kids’ education.”

You freakin Tea Party people are so gullible. Cain is an entertainer. He doesn’t care about you or me or the Tea Party. He has a radio show, and he sings gospel music when he isn’t running around the country signing books. Anyone with an opinion can run for elected office. He happens to be entertaining so keep lapping him up.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
3:53 pm

Obama and Cain both work for Rockefeller and the Roman Anti-Christ.

How many thousands of evacuated staffers, Senators and Congressmen were witnesses on the morning of 9/11 to the “white jumbo jet’s lumbering turn directly overhead” as the shockwave from the missile blast at the Pentagon rolled over them?

Wake up Georgia, wake up America.

Tea Party Hobbit

October 7th, 2011
3:58 pm

deegee, you call us gullible, while at the same time Obama could lead you liberals off a cliff. Get real. he is an entertainer, sure, but his accomplishments are real, and I am not going to call him a liar when it comes to his upbringing. He’s not exactly pulling a Vanilla Ice here, he’s not saying he grew up poor. that’s where you get the pity party. He grew up middle class, why would someone lie about that? But if you wanna believe he’s lying, just go pull the lever for Obama, we all know you will anyway.

Will, dude, seriously – lay off the dope for just a while ok? You’re making Alex Jones sound sane.

Centrist

October 7th, 2011
3:58 pm

The terms “Latino” and “Hispanic” are used for people from Spanish speaking Central and South American countries. The definitions of both terms are non race specific.

Calling political opponents “racists” has long been a Democratic party strategy.

There are 5 races of humans: Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Ethiopian (later termed Negroid), American Indian, and Malayan.

I oppose ALL races who ILLEGALLY enter the U.S.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 7th, 2011
4:03 pm

Tea Party Hobbit
October 7th, 2011
3:58 pm

papist front for the Roman Anti-Christ doing the “divide and conquer” gambit.

Know thine enemy America: Th. Jefferson said it was the Roman Anti-Christ and everything they’ve done since proves him true.

deegee

October 7th, 2011
4:16 pm

Tea Party Hobbit, I have no doubt that Herman Cain believes everything he says. He’s no liar. He truly believes that people are poor because they have a mental block. I know people that think that education is the key to their success. They just can’t afford to pay for it.

Tom (Independent)

October 7th, 2011
4:16 pm

JV – Thank you, right on the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mum

October 7th, 2011
4:17 pm

What people should take issue with is that certain segments of the population support anyone that tell them what they want to hear. History shows that whenever the economy get bad, people turn on the “others” teh “different”. I bet you that if the economy was booming along, Obama would not have been villified as he has been and everyone in government would be taking credit. As it stands, the blame has to go somewhere and the “otherness” of others are ripe for being blamed.

Republicans are praying that thing start looking better in the economy by the 2012 elections so they aren’t voted out in the next cycle if they win. The next time any politician tells you that they have a better “plan” ask them if they can guarantee that it’s going to work…bet they can’t…and if they say they can, they are lying.

Javon

October 7th, 2011
4:19 pm

African-Americans aren’t going to vote for a rich Uncle tom like cain! He’s going against his people and sucking up to racist white republicans.

td

October 7th, 2011
4:26 pm

GaBlue

October 7th, 2011
2:08 pm
td @ 1:50,

–”Everyone knows it and everyone seems to be ignoring the fact.” — Actually, NOT everyone knows that. If your claim were true, then (a) your statement would not be necessary

Sorry, I should have said anyone knows it that has any common sense. There were several reports in the media that Harry Reid won re election by ACORN an the unions registering illegals and getting them to the polls. I am sure Obama’s team has a similar plan for the swing states like Colorado, NC and Virginia.

I did not say all illegals are voting but I will submit to you that you can not prove that there are NO illegals voting.

td

October 7th, 2011
4:29 pm

deegee

October 7th, 2011
4:16 pm

If you do not believe Herman then please tell us why people are poor?

zinoDawg

October 7th, 2011
4:31 pm

Big Jim doing everything he can to sink the Herman Cain ship. What branch of the military did you serve in?
Yeah, that’s what I thought.

Roekest

October 7th, 2011
4:34 pm

Why do I get the sense that Galloway, and by extension the AJC, is trying to torpedo Cain’s rising star? Is it jealousy? Anger that he’s a black conservative? Are you all mad because, like so many other Americans, he started out poor and worked hard to gain success? Or do you all just not like Burger King and Godfather’s Pizza??

Maybe instead of trying to dismantle the man in the pages of this 3rd rate rag-of-a-newspaper, you all should be showing just an ounce of support, or at least respect, for the hometown boy.

ramguy68

October 7th, 2011
4:38 pm

td October 7th, 2011 11:05 am

was not paid by Soros and the unions like these nutjobs will be so I did not go to any.

I guess more of a Koch Bros kinda guy eh?

Jackie

October 7th, 2011
4:44 pm

Do you ever remember Onesider ever asking anything about what we didn’t know about Obama? Do you ever rember any questions from Onesider about Obama’s experience, his friends, his past beliefs or associations.
Me either.
Onesider is a one note song.

td

October 7th, 2011
4:45 pm

ramguy68

October 7th, 2011
4:38 pm

I will take a communist hater over and communist lover any day.

deegee

October 7th, 2011
4:51 pm

I just told you, td. Education is the key to success. Some folks simply don’t have the intellect to complete a scholastic program. Some have the intellect but not the time or money.

Midtown Liberal

October 7th, 2011
4:53 pm

Hopefully, the Occupy Wall Street “mobs” (Eric Cantor is an idiot) will do more than the Tea Party who got a bunch of uneducated Hillbillies elected to Congress.

Herman Cain is a pawn of the GOP. He didn’t fight for the rights of his people after college because he didn’t have guts, even though “white” people died in the fight for Civil Rights during this time. He’s a coward and a goof “don’t blame Wall Street, blame yourself.” He won’t be elected to anything, thank GOD!

Big Daddy

October 7th, 2011
4:56 pm

Tum Cain wants Rumney to pick him as v.p., so he can hep fix the ecunuhmy. And, perhaps Willard can teach Hummun how to use the vowel o.

if the deficit is our #1 criteria for a president...

October 7th, 2011
4:59 pm

then Bill Clinton must have been the greatest president of our time!

if the deficit is our #1 criteria for a president...

October 7th, 2011
5:00 pm

wait – who’s in the lead for the GOP nomination this week?

Palin?
Bachmann?
Romney?
Perry?
Cain?

I can’t keep up! they are all so wonderfully talented that the frontrunner changes every week…. right

if the deficit is our #1 criteria for a president...

October 7th, 2011
5:02 pm

you may think I’m a communist, lefty, pinko – but i’d vote for Ron Paul. Too bad he’s so into the constitution that even the GOP won’t get behind him…

John

October 7th, 2011
5:08 pm

Herman Cain has repeatedly demonstrated that he is unaware of of basic American civics principles, such as the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution; he’s also prone to pontificating about foreign policy matters then displaying a marked ignorance of the very area he’s sermonizing on (such as Israeli-Palestinian issues).
Now, if I might slink to an ad hominem assault, is there anyone who has ever eaten a Godfather’s pizza when there was any alternative? Aren’t they mostly sold in gas stations now?

Truth

October 7th, 2011
5:08 pm

Herman Cain has my vote in the primary and hopefully in the general election.

mum

October 7th, 2011
5:11 pm

@td, to use an old tern, believe some of what you hear and none of what you see. So, try not to just regurgitate what Fox says happened beacause that’s just brainwashing of another stripe. If you and they can’t prove that “illegals” ARE voting in numbers to change elections, then please don’t say so. There were ruplican operatives calling blacks in the last election telling them that the voting was closed or the polling place had moved. Don’t hear too much drama about that though because I guess some people think that’s ok. There are con games played on both sides, which does not excuse anyone. The scare tacticts of telling people illegals are voting works because people are willing to believe anything these days.

Vote Ron Paul

October 7th, 2011
5:12 pm

Herman Cain believes that the Federal Reserve should continue to control our money system.
Thomas Jefferson, 1803 – If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property – until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

mum

October 7th, 2011
5:20 pm

Wonder if Mr. Cain still believe that planned parenthood is trying to exterminate black babies by putting their centers in black neighborhoods? As a front-runner, the footage from him from his senate campaign are interesting to listen to. I really don’t know if he even realizes the things he’s saying.

Becky

October 7th, 2011
5:24 pm

Bring back the Clinton years. 8 years of peace and prosperity for all.

Vote Clinton/Clinton in 2012.

duke

October 7th, 2011
5:52 pm

Whether true of not, the story about the gun makes a valid point. Gun rights are especially important for women and minorities. There was a saying among Blacks during the years after the Civil War: “Abraham Lincoln made men equal, but Sam Colt (as in Colt 45 pistol) made them free.” When a ruler intends to become a tyrant, one of the first things he does is to confiscate private weapons.

All the liberal policies are exactly the opposite of what they claim to be. The worst victims of those policies are the people whom they claim to be helping. The civil rights movement tries to keep Black people oppressed so that their votes can be exploited. For successful Blacks like Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, and Condoleeza Rice, the civil rights movement is among their worst enemies. Several years ago, the civil rights movement in Atlanta refused to let General Colin Powell march in their snotty little parade.

The civil right movement is about the advancement of communism, not the advancement of Black people.You will never make sense of the modern world until you realize that Senator Joe McCarthy was right. Read “None Dare Call It Treason”, by John Stormer.

RGB

October 7th, 2011
6:03 pm

I love all the “sophisticated liberal elites” who look down their noses at Herman Cain and sniff that he just isn’t sophisticated enough to be president.

By your own standards we have the most sophisticated president ever and yet we have the most destructive president at the same time.

I’ll take someone with intelligence, relevant work experience, leadership qualities, pragmatism, a record of accomplishment, and good character over the opposite (which is what we now have). I’ll bet Herman doesn’t need a teleprompter to have a cabinet meeting either.

And if Mr. Cain is elected to the presidency, I think I’ll call all you leftist-statists “haters”, “racists”, and “chablis elitists”. Fact is you folks don’t know a demand curve from your hind end.

Corey

October 7th, 2011
6:06 pm

Becky, we would have to also bring back the dot com bubble which fueled that growth. And could we really stomach all the crap played out daily by the Republicans while Mr. Clinton was in office? Have you forgotten? Compared to the treatment Mr. Obama has received from the Republicans they were absolutely ruthless against the Clintons. Never in the history of this republic had so much venom and scorn been spewed and heaped on a sitting POTUS by the opposition.

hiram bronson granbury

October 7th, 2011
6:27 pm

@ Centrist

Here is a link that you might want to share with the naysayers.

Non-citizens voting in Georgia elections

http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/2010/10/non-citizens-voting-in-georgia-elections/

Amazing

October 7th, 2011
6:36 pm

It is ok for tea party to protest but no else for they shall be called mobs (quote from Cantor). It is ok to say one thing and do another thing for you shall be called a Republican!

Frederick Douglass

October 7th, 2011
7:04 pm

duke @ 5:52

Hey Buddy, John Bleakly Ford’s service department just called, they tuned up and lubed your Edsel, have a safe trip back to 1958.

sho'nuff

October 7th, 2011
10:08 pm

Run Herman Run. Thiis is stupendous. The Repo and Demo have each got to compete for our Vote with all of their might. And, they heave got to produce. For neither side will argue that the other side can’t or won’t do anything for you people. Beautiful. PASS THE PRESIDEN’T JOBS BILL NOW. WHY WON’T CHAMBLISS, ISSAKSON, AND WESTMORELAND SPEAK OUT. Explain to us how you can stay opposed to the Jobs bill, when Georgians need work. We are number 4 in home foreclosures. Why are none of the candidates talking about solutions to real problems instead of this nonsense.

double

October 7th, 2011
10:39 pm

I doubt illegals vote in our elections.Why would they? Unless the employer the conservative right,ones with all the money,and government connections influence them to vote.Show proof this happends.This is like calling the President communist just more lies.

Centrist

October 7th, 2011
10:54 pm

Hey double – look at hiram’s post @ 6:27. Just the tip of the iceberg – those are only via non-citizens found from jury duty exclusions. You purposely ignore the ILLEGAL immigrants who are scamming Social Security and the IRS, who don’t have a fear of coming out of the shadows.

I usually don’t respond to you because of your past posts – making an exception here.

Bootnewt

October 8th, 2011
12:09 am

One shoe or the other will drop from Citizen Cain….

whatever

October 8th, 2011
12:35 am

@Will Jones=Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis. “Cain “loves his country so much” he avoided the honor of doing sworn, military service with 9.2 million other Americans, preferring the ranks of craven hypocrites like Isakson, Chambliss, Romney, Gingrich, Quayle, Bush, and virtually all other “Republican” Vietnam “susceptible” politicians.” You forgot some names in that illustrious group. How about Bill Clinton who refused to go. Or Al Gore who’s Daddy bought his way out of the draft.Or Joe (the asthmatic) Biden. Who did not serve because of deferments. and when those ran out he found a Doctor to would label his as an Asthmatic. Are they more patriotic that Mr Cain who worked for the military who’s draft number was NOT called? Honestly you can’t have it both ways..

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

October 8th, 2011
9:02 am

Gore had a legitimate in-country MOS shared by thousands of others – notice how his personality changed after Election night…from wooden to warm? They probable threatened to kill his children, needing to get the homosexual draft-dodger into office for the long-planned 9/11 abomination. Clinton is Winthrop Rockefeller’s “yard-baby,” and I have no doubt Biden, like everything else in Delaware, is owned by the DuPont’s.

Cain’s graduation year makes him pre-lottery and the job he got came from Robert Woodruff so he could dodge the draft.

The focus of the People must be on Truth and Justice, that G-d be glorified by Our Nation’s “Annuit Coeptis.” We know G-d is perfect, infinite, eternal, and ineffable. Everything matters.

Bush and Cheney committed 9/11. America needs leadership obedient to Our Creed, with no false gods…including Mammon and Satan.

Show me a man or woman of good character…the gauge is Truth and Justice. An American submits to none but G-d. Here, we measure G-d’s presence by the presence of Truth and Justice.

Ron Paul, Romney, John Lewis, Barack Obama…all on the national stage are compromised souls, incomplete or failed men. Our Founders were anointed of G-d. So must we be if America shall prosper once more.

The Snark

October 8th, 2011
2:56 pm

Red: No, I’m saying its hypocritical to evade the draft, make excuses about having done it, and then pose in public as if you’re a big patriotic defender of the military. And attack the opinions of others who actually did put their bodies in harm’s way (e.g., Swift Boaters, Saxby Chambliss’ attack on Max Cleland.)

That sort of thing should bother you regardless of whether your beliefs lean left or right.

Cain's Truth

October 8th, 2011
5:04 pm

This story effectively answers Jim Galloway’s accusations:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/10/lawrence-odonnells-offensive-interview-with-herman-cain/246328/

Jim, why do you blog without bothering to check facts?

javon

October 9th, 2011
9:10 am

If cain gets elected, hopefully he does a lot more for African-Americans than obama has—minorities need a lot more money which obama was supposed to get, but so far he’s not creating more government benefits like he promised.