Ron Paul condemns assassination of U.S.-born al-Awlaki

When he spoke in Cobb County this morning, the first thing Texas Gov. Rick Perry did was to congratulate the U.S. military and President Barack Obama on the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S.-born Muslim cleric living in Yemen.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said much the same thing in a prepared statement:

“The killing of Anwar al-Awlaki is a major victory in our fight against Islamist terrorism and proper justice for the numerous attacks and plots he inspired or planned against America.

But in New Hampshire, rival GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, told MSNBC that al-Awlaki’s death is nothing to celebrate:

Said Paul:

“No I don’t think that’s a good way to deal with our problems. He was born here — Al-Awlaki was born here, he is an American citizen. He was never tried or charged for any crimes. Nobody knows if he killed anybody. We know he might have been associated with the underwear bomber. But if the American people accept this blindly and casually — that we now have an accepted practice of the president assassinating people who he thinks are bad guys, I think it’s sad.

“I think — what would people have said about Timothy McVeigh? We didn’t assassinate him, who certainly he had done it. Went and put through the courts and executed him. To start assassinating American citizens without charges, we should think very seriously about this.”

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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Centrist

September 30th, 2011
1:40 pm

Ron Paul is such a gadfly – he has NO chance at the nomination. Sometimes he makes sense (not here, Obama was correct in targeting this dangerous enemy), but his shrill voice and too many out of the mainstream ideas kills most of his message.

Centrist

September 30th, 2011
1:43 pm

Back to the ILLEGAL immigration debate – the left is overplaying its hand concerning undocumented Democrats and pandering to legal Latinos who have illegal immigrant friends and family.

From today’s Washington Post article Obama administration widens challenges to state immigration laws:

The level of federal intervention is highly unusual, legal experts said, especially because civil rights groups already have sued most of those states. Typically, the government files briefs or seeks to intervene in other lawsuits filed against state statutes.

“I don’t recall any time in history that the Justice Department has so aggressively challenged state laws,” said Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University Law School.
The legal skirmishing comes as immigration emerges as a defining issue in the presidential campaign and Hispanic voters play an increasingly influential role. Conservatives have criticized the Obama administration for suing Arizona, and some legal observers said they detect political motives in the administration’s additional legal steps. The White House has been trying to rekindle excitement among Hispanic voters, many of whom have been disappointed over Obama’s immigration policies.

Red

September 30th, 2011
1:51 pm

Paul’s comments about Osama were equally puzzling. If given the intel on where Osama was he would have called up the Pakistani government, let them know, and then ask the Pakistanis to capture and extradite Osama. Yes, handing over our intel to a corrupt government with al Qaeda sympathizers would have yielded that result.

The world is a much different place than the utopia Paul wishes. He may have grand ideas on paper but reality and practicality would not grant him the results he wishes. Add to the fact that he has yet to convince any in Congress to follow his lead, how can he expect to get anything accomplished sitting in a different seat?

Frederick Douglass

September 30th, 2011
2:02 pm

Ron Paul wasn’t quite as vocal in defending our duly elected president when the birthers were spreading their lies, now he wants to stick up for this murderer because he’s “an American”.

Bill

September 30th, 2011
2:02 pm

Be careful insulting Ron Paul. His followers make Jim Jones followers look reasonable. They will come on here and tell you how stupid you are for just not understanding the grand intellect of the man. Look at all of the message boards. Americans are just too stupid to understand what he is saying and his genius, etc. etc.

Jackie

September 30th, 2011
2:03 pm

Maybe we can get some lefties to protest about rendition but not assination. Hypocrites!

SaveOurRepublic

September 30th, 2011
2:12 pm

Dr.Paul is right to call out the Globalist puppet status we’ve allowed ourselves to become. We’ve NO business policing the world or in the middle east. We need to extract ALL troops from around the globe, shut down military bases & end ALL foreign aid….then we could run at a continous budget surplus while saving trillions in tax $.

Bill

September 30th, 2011
2:16 pm

Sorry SOR. That puts quite a few million people out of work and kills towns. All of those millions out of work either from the military directly, the civilian contractors, the factory workers for materials, and the towns built around these bases and plants would cost the government billions more. Our society cannot even handle the unemployed now. Shutting down all of that would only gradually bring down the costs in the DoD budget and the immediate result would have far greater implications for the economy.

SaveOurRepublic

September 30th, 2011
2:16 pm

****EDIT for above ^^^ ….”shut down all foreign military bases”.

SaveOurRepublic

September 30th, 2011
2:18 pm

Bill, I’m for retaining all domestic bases. This bigger need in 86′ing ALL foreign hand-outs.

the constitution

September 30th, 2011
2:19 pm

@ Frederick and Bill:

Attacking Paul and his supporters on personal grounds doesn’t advance your argument. Paul is right in saying that American citizens should be afforded the protections guaranteed by the Constitution, even when we don’t like those folks. Claiming that Al-Awlaki does not deserve due process just because he attacked Americans creates a slippery slope. If Al-Awlaki is effectively stripped of his Constitutional rights on orders from the Obama administration (and that’s exactly what happened here — an American citizen was deprived of his 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendment rights), then what’s to stop it from happening to others? If future presidents want to silence political dissent (which includes the type of violence in which Al-Awlaki engaged), they can point to Obama’s action as precedent. That’s wrong, and Ron Paul is right.

Brown Eyed Girl!

September 30th, 2011
2:29 pm

This might be a dumb question, but was he still a US citizen?

Dumb and Dumber

September 30th, 2011
2:33 pm

I think the problem with rendition was that we just grabbed any old dark-skinned arab looking folks and sent them to be tortured in Egypt — and many of them were victims of mistaken identity. And then we just said “oops, my bad, but no, we are not sorry.”

But a fellow like Al-Whacks His Nugs or Osama Bin Hiding, they are a little different. I’d rather see Al-Whacks His Whatever in a comfy place like Parchman Farm or Angola instead of hell, but I cannot get everything I want.

SaveOurRepublic

September 30th, 2011
2:35 pm

@ “the constitution” >>> Thou hast well stated!

Shannon

September 30th, 2011
2:35 pm

I hardly ever agree with *anybody* on the Republican side, but Ron Paul is 100 percent correct. We do not kill American citizens. We capture them and bring them to trial. It’s that whole “innocent until proven guilty” thing–how terribly inconvenient…

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Banned Poster

September 30th, 2011
2:42 pm

Didn’t he renounce his U.S. citizenship? If so, then he is fair game as an enemy combatant.

Grits

September 30th, 2011
2:48 pm

Good move for the US Military and CIA. Ron Paul is nuts. There are more here and abroad need to be terminated.

Bob in Atlanta.

September 30th, 2011
3:01 pm

I’m not going to lose any sleep over his death

Frederick Douglass

September 30th, 2011
3:09 pm

the constitution @ 2:19

You make some valid points, but as Vince Lombardi famously said, “If ifs and buts were candies and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas”. Getting rid of al-Awlaki was expedient and paramount, let’s deal with the ifs and buts when we come to them, if we come to them.

Bill

September 30th, 2011
3:12 pm

the constitution – sorry but I call it as I see it. I’ve seen it enough out there where if you don’t agree with Paul his supporters call you stupid, etc. Paul supporters have been some of the most arrogant and condescending of any out there. They’ve beat Obama supporters in my book. In saying what I said, I was not advancing ANY argument. Just stating facts.

I will say Paul has no clue especially when it comes to his comparisons. McVeigh? Seriously? McVeigh was caught on the road here in America. He did not fight back. He was in plain sight. This guy was on the battlefield in another country. We clearly cannot rely on Yemen to extradite him. Perhaps it would be the same as what Red said. We ask politely for the Yemeni government to extradite him? This would not happen so in the meantime we allow him to recruit others and plan more attacks to kill more Americans.

As ‘banned poster’ stated if he has renounced his citizenship and is an enemy combatant, whole new ballgame. Paul’s statement no longer applies.

Lincoln Roosevelt

September 30th, 2011
3:13 pm

We happen to be at war. The guy was the enemy. We killed him. Nice shot, and now for the next guy.

Chuck Allison

September 30th, 2011
3:16 pm

I can’t vote for Ron Paul if he ain’t gonna keep on killing muslim terrorists. But I like his tax ideas. Maybe Ron Paul ought to give him a cabinet job where he can still work on his fair tax proposals.

the constitution

September 30th, 2011
3:30 pm

@ Bill:

The proper (i.e. Constitutional) course of action would be a good-faith effort to capture Al-Awlaki alive and bring him to trial in the U.S. If he were to be killed in a raid, that’d be unfortunate but acceptable. It’s absolutely not acceptable that the Obama administration ordered a political hit on an American citizen.

Capturing Al-Awlaki alive and trying him would send a strong message: the U.S absolutely values justice and fairness. Instead, the Obama administration chose an option that (rightfully) opens us to criticism of hypocricy. How can the U.S sincerely promote democratic ideals when the actions of its leaders undermine our ideals?

Also, he was an American citizen. He did not renounce his citizenship.

Centrist

September 30th, 2011
3:33 pm

Chuck posted: “Maybe Ron Paul ought to give him a cabinet job where he can still work on his fair tax proposals.”

Except for Perry and Romney – they ALL are running for possible appointed positions. I hope the eventual nominee picks Christie, Rubio, or Paul Ryan as their VP candidate instead of the also rans.

(I’ll still probably vote for the Libertarian).

Independent voter

September 30th, 2011
3:51 pm

Ron Paul is wrong on this one if a person is a terrorist they should be able to kill them look what they did to american on 911. He not a american citizen once they become a terrorist.

Aquagirl

September 30th, 2011
3:55 pm

If some garden-variety thug says he’s going to kill a bunch of cops, they’ll show up and ask him to surrender. If he runs into a dark house waving a gun, he’ll likely get his head blown off.

That’s perfectly legal treatment of any U.S. Citizen. And darned appropriate.

Retired Solider

September 30th, 2011
4:02 pm

AQ-

We agree! That really makes me question my position (JK).

clem

September 30th, 2011
4:07 pm

why does ron paul have such a difficult time expressing himself at the debates?

JV

September 30th, 2011
4:12 pm

I disagree with Ron Paul on this and the bin Laden killing. Be wary of discounting this man. Recent polls show him doing quite well. A Rasmussen poll showed him within a percent of President Obama in a head-to-head matchup. Another recent Gallup survey, conducted August 17-18, shows Paul only 2 points behind Obama in a general election match-up. In a similar head to head survey from last year done by Rasmussen, Paul actually drew a statistical dead heat with the President. And earlier this year in a survey by CNN, he did the best out of the other Republicans put up against Obama in a head-to-head poll.

Beta

September 30th, 2011
4:12 pm

I wonder where Ron Paul stood on José Padilla’s imprisonment for over three years in military confinement without formal charges being brought? He was an American Citizen and the President at the time declared him an “illegal combatant”, denying his constitutional rights as an American Citizen. Was Mr. Paul as concerned about Mr. Padilla being denied his constitutional rights as he is now, for the death of a known supporter and instigator of terrorists acts against the USA.

losersville

September 30th, 2011
4:15 pm

Ron Paul has been in politics most of his life. What has he ever produced. Calling him a gadfly is most appropriate.

Aquagirl

September 30th, 2011
4:17 pm

RS, now I’m doing the same, lol.

I just don’t get terribly exercised about minutia of the law. We expect our police and military to take you into detention if you surrender peacefully. Refuse to surrender and bad things might happen to you. I’m not gonna lose any sleep over it.

Road Scholar

September 30th, 2011
4:40 pm

Yeah, maybe we should have brought him back to Ohio for incarceration and a trial in NYC!!!

Retired Solider

September 30th, 2011
4:51 pm

AQ- Amen sister, preach on.

Centrist

September 30th, 2011
5:04 pm

Ron Paul has been running for president for 24 years, and has never been a credible contender. He said this 4 1/2 years ago when he was languished in last place behind the other contenders and refused to concede even when mathematically eliminated: “Though victory in the political sense [is] not available, many victories have been achieved due to hard work and enthusiasm. McCain has the nominal number … but if you’re in a campaign for only gaining power, that is one thing; if you’re in a campaign to influence ideas and the future of the country, it’s never over.”

Like other perennial presidential campaigners such as Harold Stasson and Ralph Nader – he is more than wearing thin.

Martin Williams

September 30th, 2011
5:34 pm

I was a true Ron Paul fan and now I am deeply disappointed at this statement. This is what happens when we continue to elect people like Ron Paul to represent us year after year. I truly believe we should have a term limit for both houses. We tell leaders of other countries that, they have stayed in power for 3, 4, 5 decades. We have senators and congress folks that have served for more than two decades. Ron Paul cannot remember a lot of things.

double

September 30th, 2011
6:00 pm

Have to agree with constituton.Assassination of American citizen by another citizen, law should apply.

Last Man Standing

September 30th, 2011
6:35 pm

In January, 2013, our next President will be able to quote President Gerald Ford and say, “My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over.”

It will take decades to undo the damage caused by the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, but we shall overcome.

The “hope” for the “change” of America will be dashed as those Americans taken in by the rhetoric of the so-called “Chosen One” have come to their senses and recognize it for what it was – a brief foray into socialism. Those Americans who truly wanted (and still want) socialism must wait. They will find another “Chosen One” at some future time, and perhaps their next leader will be less a narcissist, able to extend the class warfare and tax capitalism out of existence, but don’t count on it.

Obama has lost his base, and he will not regain it.

Jack

September 30th, 2011
6:48 pm

If Obama is taking credit for the hit on the terrorist, he must be smoking some pretty good stuff. Pacifists ain’t gonna like what happened.

james birdseye mcpherson

September 30th, 2011
6:55 pm

@ jv

“I disagree with Ron Paul on this and the bin Laden killing.”

If you think that they actually think that bin laden was in that sack they dumped into the ocean, I’ve got some nice swamp land in Fl that you might be interested in…

jconservative

September 30th, 2011
7:07 pm

Last Man Standing 6:35 pm

Interesting comments. In particular the comment about Obama administration being “…a brief foray into socialism.”

This statement is incorrect. We have not had a brief foray into socialism.

In fact, we have had socialism for 78 years. Social Security, then Medicare that was expanded to Medicaid and then the Bush 43 Prescription Drug Plan. And now Obamacare. Do we also want to discuss the VA hospitals? How about the CHIP program?

The United States of America is a socialist state. Has been and will continue to be. American voters demand government services. They also demand lower taxes. And, we must also say, they cannot do simple adding and subtracting. As a result we have a $14.3 National Debt.

Since FDR we have had 11 presidents who supported and expanded socialist programs. And 6 of them were re-elected!

If you think not, well then, have at it. You are free to believe what you choose to believe. Free Will, you know. Unless, of course, you are one who does not believe in Free Will. But that’s OK too.
Even if its socialist, it is still a free country. For now.

WillieRae

September 30th, 2011
7:21 pm

Rule of law doesn’t mean much to the lefties as long as Obama is the president. Can you imagine the caterwauling if Bush had sanctioned the killing of a US. Citizen without due process. Do you remember the screaming about Guantanamo? Heard any of the progressives lately?

Hypocrisy piled on ignorance, seasoned with childishness.

Robert

September 30th, 2011
7:42 pm

Well!! Mr. Paul. You just stuck your finger in your nose. What recognition you had has been lost with a bunch of supporters. What a MAROON statement that was indeed.

Dilly

September 30th, 2011
8:12 pm

He was considered a traitor. The penalty of being a traitor can be death. Anyway, he renounced his citizenship so he was fair game. Happy they got him. Ron Paul is a blithering nut.

Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil

September 30th, 2011
8:20 pm

Ron Paul is an old irrelavant HYPOCRITE

BH

September 30th, 2011
8:24 pm

The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution could not be clearer: “…nor shall any person…be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law…”. We have trials for a reason; the government must prove their accusations in a court of law. We should never trust everything the government says just because they say it.

Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil

September 30th, 2011
8:25 pm

@Jack September 30th, 2011 6:48 pm

SO WHO SHOULD TAKE THE CREDIT (Geedub, Perry, Romney, Bachman, Cain)? ON WHOSE WATCH WAS THIS? WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING?

Oh, sorry we know. Does it start with M E T H! A brain killer!

Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil

September 30th, 2011
8:29 pm

@Last Man Standing September 30th, 2011 6:35 pm

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Ya boy Bush could not find his way out of a paper bag.

Jealous and hate is an ugly trait. Don’t hate participate!

Just Saying

September 30th, 2011
8:32 pm

@Martin Williams September 30th, 2011 5:34 pm

You Have Been Bamboozled By The Republicans AGAIN. When will YOU people learn that the Republicans talk out the side of their mouth.