Feds consider challenge to Georgia’s illegal immigration law
Just up at the Washington Post website:
The Obama administration is escalating its crackdown on tough immigration laws, with lawyers reviewing four new state statutes to determine whether the federal government will take the extraordinary step of challenging the measures in court.
Justice Department attorneys have sued Arizona and Alabama, where a federal judge on Wednesday allowed key parts of that state’s immigration law to take effect but blocked other provisions.
Federal lawyers are talking to Utah officials about a third possible lawsuit and are considering legal challenges in Georgia, Indiana and South Carolina, according to court documents and government officials.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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Bootnewt
September 29th, 2011
1:21 pm
Create a separate law for carpet-bagging politicians….
Jackie
September 29th, 2011
1:35 pm
Maybe the Obama administration should consider a suit to force itself to follow the laws passed by Congress instead of picking and choosing how to obey the law themselves. Maybe if Obama and the feds would follow the law, there would not be a need for state level immigration laws. It’s deeply dishonest for Obama to argue on on hand that this is a federal matter and on the other hand openly admit that his administration won’t enforce the laws on the books.
yeah
September 29th, 2011
1:43 pm
Sue us in 2011, lose the State in 2012! Go ahead, make my day!
The Ghost of Lester Maddox
September 29th, 2011
1:44 pm
Allow me to translate the following words
“Feds consider challenge to immigration laws”….
TRANSLATION: Obama desperately needs the hispanic vote to survive..
JV
September 29th, 2011
1:45 pm
Right on spot Jackie. The Obamaites need to understand why the states are passing these laws. The data is there but they are not understanding it. Don’t care to understand I suspect. Examples:
According to a 2010 cost study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), the estimated annual total of the costs related to illegal immigration that taxpayers must bear on the federal, state and local levels in $113 BILLION. Of that, $84 BILLION at state and local levels. This breaks down to approximately $1,000 per tax-paying American household. An average 27 percent of this dollar figure has to do with the administration of justice, while 16 percent are public assistance expenditures. Twenty-one percent go to medical care and an estimated seven percent support education.
Undocumented workers received refundable tax credits totaling $4.2 billion in 2010, a dramatic rise from less than $1 billion in 2005, according to a September 1, 2011 report by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration. At issue is use of a tax break based on earned income called the additional child tax credit, which taxpayers can claim to reduce their taxes owed, sometimes gaining them a check from Uncle Sam if their tax obligation goes below zero. The report states that the payment of federal funds through this tax benefit appears to provide an additional incentive for aliens to enter, reside and work in the United States without authorization, which contradicts federal law and policy.
Democratic Plantation Dweller
September 29th, 2011
1:57 pm
Obama be doing a wonderful job!
Centrist
September 29th, 2011
1:59 pm
Great example of this leftist blog tilt – no mention about how a federal judge gave a “Key Win for Alabama Immigrant Law” yesterday, and their anti-ILLEGAL immigration law is tougher than Georgia’s:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204226204576599012968434494.html
John D
September 29th, 2011
2:01 pm
JV you are totally clueless just as FAIR is. FAIR is nothing more than a propaganda machine just like Fox. Numbers that are relevant are “real” numbers and not those made up by Republicans and their consituents because most of the things they say are totally false. Just ask Michelle Bachman and Sarah Palin. Homeland security’s border patrol already put out numbers that showed that illegal border crossing has significantly dropped over the past 5 years and it being its lowest it has ever been past 2 years. So please spare me that B.S.
The KKK justified their doing with the Bible so I don’t see no difference here. If you are really concerned about our debt maybe you should question the trillions that are being spent on a War that has no purpose and killed many of American Citizens, you should be mad at the financial institutions that brought this system down, you should be mad at the super rich that refuse to pay taxes like regular citizens because they fail to realize that they made their billions by using American resources to get there, they use our roads, our buildings, education provided by American infrastructure but yet they feel that they don’t have to give back. You should be mad at these countless corporations that send OUR jobs overseas and not these jobs that illegals “supposedly” take from citizens (I don’t pick strawberries or work on poultry farms). I have education and qualify for much more than that. But yet those jobs go to India, Philippines, etc. You should be mad at all the manufacturers that take their business to China, Korea, Taiwan. You should be mad that the education system sucks and we can’t get enough people qualified to work in certain jobs that are major for our country.
Did you know that we can’t even manufacture Kindles or iPads in the U.S. because we are simply not qualified to produce this stuff here simply because we have been outsourcing it for so long that they got so much better at it and we don’t even know where to begin.
So if you want to be mad be mad at this first. But I understand it is easier to pick on the small problems because the big ones are much harder to deal with.
Centrist
September 29th, 2011
2:10 pm
It has become way too expensive to buy undocumented Democrat votes. In addition to the welfare, SSI, WIC, housing, taxpayer supported free hospital care, schooling with free breakfast and lunch, and crime – according to the U.S. Treasury Department, illegal aliens are bilking the federal government for billions because they are filing fraudulent returns.
The Treasury reported in July that the Internal Revenue Service coughed up $4.2 billion in child tax credits for illegal aliens in 2010 rocketed from $924 million in 2005. ILLEGALS are fraudulently using the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC), which was created to give more money to taxpayers who cannot claim a full tax credit for children.
Because all wages, even those earned illegally, are taxed, but since illegals cannot get valid Social Security numbers, the government needs a way to track their income and collect what is due. It does so using individual taxpayer identification numbers (ITINs), which, again, are for those taxpayers who cannot obtain a Social Security card. The refund credit can be claimed even even if no income tax was withheld or paid, up to $1,000 per child. An estimated additional $1.8 billion was going to illegals via the Earned Income Tax Credit, for which they are also ineligible because it can be claimed only by taxpayers with Social Security numbers.
The report concluded that “[t]he payment of Federal funds through this tax benefit appears to provide an additional incentive for aliens to enter, reside, and work in the United States without authorization, which contradicts Federal law and policy to remove such incentives.”
http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2011reports/201141061fr.html
Chuck
September 29th, 2011
2:11 pm
From what I can gather, the feds are saying that states can’t enforce these laws because the federal government is responsible for enforcing immigration laws…but they aren’t enforcing federal laws consistently. I fully support Georgia, Alabama, Utah, etc for trying to get a handle on the economic drain this causes. I still support Obama (mainly due to the alternative) but I think this is a bad move on his part that sure looks like pandering to the Hispanic vote.
Ol' Timer
September 29th, 2011
2:23 pm
There’s sure some weird dudes camping out under the tent of the Tea Party.
They were roaming around looking for a home and finally found it. Unfortunately, the weird group has gotten so weird that they’re about to fall of the cliff.
And, you know it’s gone to an extreme when Roger Ailes starts trying to pull his network and the Republican Party back from the brink.
John
September 29th, 2011
2:27 pm
Just wait till some move into a neighborhood near you and watch how fast it goes downhill from there.
Travis McGee
September 29th, 2011
2:27 pm
“Get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything.” — Frank Dane
honested
September 29th, 2011
2:31 pm
If all levels of Georgia Law Enforcement would just arrest the major and minor EMPLOYERS and make sure the TV cameras are handy for the perp-walk, then follow through with rigorous prosecutions this problem would solve itself.
I can’t blame anyone for attempting to improve their life and while the illegals are definitely breaking the law. That said, the EMPLOYERS have known the rules for many years and should be following the LAW! By providing the demand and the funding, they are creating the problem.
I’m sure after they are in prison, their factories, farms and personal assets can be auctioned off to responsible Citizens who will follow the law!
Clear Thinkin Man
September 29th, 2011
2:32 pm
While we’re at it let’s crackdown on all the LEGALS that are bilking the government by sitting on their butts drawing unemployment.
Sure, many Americans are actually trying to find work, but far more aren’t trying and that $$ figure costs the taxpayer more than illegals ever will. We all know it.
Illegals are a problem, but mainly a scapegoat.
honested
September 29th, 2011
2:33 pm
Ol Timer
I guess it speaks volumes when a network that has positioned itself to attract the lowest common denominator realizes what a dangerous denominator it has spawned!
Clear Thinkin Man
September 29th, 2011
2:36 pm
If all the legals were rounded up and sent home tomorrow, who would be left to blame for our problems. Until the Hispanics came in the whites only had the blacks to complain about.
Fed-up
September 29th, 2011
2:37 pm
What about all of the LEGALS coming here? They get Social Security, Medicaid, Food stamps. pocket money, cell phones and transportation cards. Why won ‘t they stop this nonsense? If an organization wants to bring them, let them take care of them and not my money!
honested
September 29th, 2011
2:37 pm
centrist
‘It has become way to expensive to buy undocumented Democrat votes’?
Huh
Where in this country is it that the ‘undocumented’ vote for either party.
Another hollow homily from the imaginary center.
Clear Thinkin Man
September 29th, 2011
2:41 pm
I’ve invented a time machine. Just replace “Hispanic” with “blacks” (or worse) in any rant you hear or read and you just went back 50 years.
I wonder who we’ll blame in 2061 (if we aren’t all speaking Chinese).
Limey
September 29th, 2011
2:46 pm
Don’t the Feds have anything more important to do, like enforce their own immigration laws! If they did, states would not be forced into this situation.
Ordinary American
September 29th, 2011
2:50 pm
honested and Ol’ timer – Please define “weird dudes” and “lowest common denominator”.
Clear Thinkin Man
September 29th, 2011
2:52 pm
It’s the high wage non-Americans that are here with our consent that is our biggest threat. Educated in our schools and business only to go home and develop businesses that compete with US companies. They ultimately win because they have cheaper labor back home. In the meantime, our cheap labor (our only hope) is being run back to Mexico.
Everyone who complains about illegals, spends their next breath complaining about losing jobs overseas. Our labor market has priced itself out of business. We’re dealing with a global economy. We need to be out looking for cheaper labor, not running it off.
Charles
September 29th, 2011
2:56 pm
Not enforcing our immigration laws and then trying to force states to do the same sound like treason to me.
Ordinary American
September 29th, 2011
2:58 pm
Clear Thinkin Man – What are our “Clear” thoughts on solutions or do you think this is only racial? Are illegals illegal or not? Or do you think this is all just a very petty issue and we should just turn our heads?
Ordinary American
September 29th, 2011
2:58 pm
*your “Clear” thoughts
Clear Thinkin Man
September 29th, 2011
3:00 pm
Businesses ultimately migrate where labor is the cheapest. We’re doing all we can in making foreign countries more attractive for American businesses. By all means, run all the cheap labor off and make China stronger!
Centrist
September 29th, 2011
3:01 pm
honested posted – “Where in this country is it that the undocumented vote”
Let’s pretend ACORN (and other such groups) don’t exist to register ILLEGAL aliens.
Did you see the part of the above U.S. Treasury report: An estimated additional $1.8 billion was going to illegals via the Earned Income Tax Credit, for which they are also ineligible because it can be claimed only by taxpayers with Social Security numbers? That means they have the necessary fake ID to also vote.
Voting for future
September 29th, 2011
3:04 pm
Hate to tell the Obama administration but the hispanics who came over here the right way and paid their dues to be here are not in favor of allowing illegals to something they had to work for. The ones that came the right way and worked hard are the new voters. So, his plan just might backfire on him.
Lets hear from the US citizens of hispanic decent and the hispanics who came over the right and legal way. Am I right or wrong on this. From what I see, I am very very right.
Ordinary American
September 29th, 2011
3:09 pm
Clear – Needing labor I agree, but running them off is not the intention, getting them here legally through a controlled system is needed. They are more than welcomed if done legally.Your thoughts Clear?
Clear Thinkin Man
September 29th, 2011
3:11 pm
Your right “ordinary American”, illegals are illegal. But I do think the path to citizenship is very cumbersome and expensive (like most government processes) and therefor only the ones who can afford it need to apply. That’s the catch.
I don’t think all who make the argument against iilegals are motivated by racial bias. But, unfortunately, many are. Can’t help but think that if it were Canadians streaming over the borders that anyone would be very upset about it.
These folks are working and filling positions that the average low income American is just not going to perform. It’s a very serious issue.
Ashley
September 29th, 2011
3:14 pm
Within the last hour I applied for part-time work, the application process was very, very, thorough. For instance backgound check about high-school and college, felony conviction, am I legal and can I prove it. Felt like I was applying for a job with the FBI or CIA (it was neither) just a part-time job in retail. My question how do illegals get around this ? Social Security card and proper I.D. seem to elude them but yet are required for employment. Of course fraud plays into this, but I just wonder if these background check are really on the up and up. I think my chance of getting a job was probably better had I been illegal or lied through my teeth. Better yet do most of these retail stores have the resources to check on every potential employees background or work history and how do they route out fraud?
Clear Thinkin Man
September 29th, 2011
3:15 pm
I think you’re right “ordinary American”. I also think most all illegals would love to be documented citizens but cannot entertain the idea until they can afford the cost involved. Catch 22
seabeau
September 29th, 2011
3:19 pm
Stop all immigration!!
Georgia Values
September 29th, 2011
3:21 pm
So the feds sued Alabama, and we passed HB87 long before Alabama passed theirs. Wonder whats taking so long? Bring it on.
joe
September 29th, 2011
3:22 pm
If the damn Fed would enforce the immigration laws we already have, then states would not have to issue their own laws. Our Fed is the most bassackwards government in the entire history of the world…
JV
September 29th, 2011
3:27 pm
John D. I guess the U.S. Treasury Inspector General is clueless like me and FAIR. And Centrist also. Not sure how rantings about the KKK are revelant. Even a Tree Hugging Clean Air Pure Water Sensitivity Trained Social Engineering Ulra Liberal ought to be able to figure out that social welfare handouts are NOT very productive.
Ordinary American
September 29th, 2011
3:28 pm
Clear – The illegals seem to be not very incumbered by filing tax refunds or applying for welfare programs or forging fake documents starting businesses, etc.. I think they could handle applying legally. Maybe a few non-essential government workers could be shifted to this area to speed up the process.
I think if you have the same numbers from the southern border coming from the north, yes people would be just as upset.
You are right on the willingness of our own to take low income jobs, but we know what the conditions are our southern neighbors are living. But once they are here legally, assimilation must be expected.
DwayneL
September 29th, 2011
3:29 pm
Dammit, the states need to enforce our immigration laws since the fed won’t do it. We’re being overrun by illegal aliens and they need to be rounded up and deported!!!!
Clear Thinkin Man
September 29th, 2011
3:29 pm
Ordinary – you don’t strike me as one of those who want illegals out of the country. I think that you are sincere when you say you simply want them here in a documented in a legal and controlled manner.
But don’t you think that most are wanting them out of the country?
Ordinary American
September 29th, 2011
3:43 pm
Clear – on the costs I have an idea. Issue the “green card” and do a payroll deduction to reimburse for fees. Employers in some cases I understand may pick up part or all of this expense for these folks. Government likes to give tax deductions as incentives, so make paying these fees tax deductible. Just a thought, not sure how “clear” though.
Ordinary American
September 29th, 2011
3:55 pm
Clear – No I don’t think they do, it’s only the illegal part. I’m not really sure who you are talking about wanting them out of the country. We’ve seen how hard most of them work, but now we see the system being taken advantage of by the illegals and certain businesses. You will always have those that will have problems with just race on some level.
No KoolAid
September 29th, 2011
4:02 pm
All I can say is it’s FINALLY as it’s “About Time” the federal government stepped in. Had Georgia and Alabama had their way we would still have segregation. Few people really understand the issues with immigration. Those who spout “their illegal” “deport ‘em all” are parroting rhetoric, some of which comes from those who are MAKING MONEY with these laws.
Ronnie Raygun
September 29th, 2011
4:08 pm
Gotta love the Cons whining about Obama’s administration not deporting illegals when the FACT is the his adminisration has already deported MORE illegals in less than 3 years than Bush did in 8 years. But I guess these Teabags would rather froth at the mouth than educate themselves before they go spouting off and making fools of themselves.
A question for all
September 29th, 2011
4:26 pm
I wonder how many US born citizens have actually taken the time to see what the process and qualifictions are for becoming legal and how the vast majority of those that want to be here legally will never qualify. I know a handful of people who have been through th process, legally, and they were only able to do so because one came from Columbia and needed asylum, two married US citizens (for the traditional reasons, not citizenship), and one was lucky enough to have a family member sponsor him. I have had many illegals tell me that they want to do it the right way, but many times they might even be forced to leave the country, on their dime, while their preliminary applications are filed. For up to two years. Who can afford that?
OG
September 29th, 2011
4:28 pm
I’m with John D on most of what he stated. if in all honesty we want to bring our economy back up to new peaks, we are going to have to begin all working for that cause, but on the same roadmap. let’s make sure we give business to all of those shops, stores, retailers, companies, industries, etc. that have their business here. those that manufacture, produce, and return capitol back to the u.s. i know that when most think of the title “illegal immigrants” we think of horrible human beings that come to steal our jobs, our tax returns, welfare, and etc. but guess what else they’re doing? they’re trying to use that money to invest it back to the u.s. i’m 99 percent certain, if we would give residency to the good natured people whose only crime is illegaly crossing over a border, these people would buy homes, buy land, buy cars, create businesses. i understand that there are a lot of people out there struggling without jobs, but can someone one tell me why everytime my father hires a u.s. citizen (doing the legal thing) to work hard manual labor, only one out of twenty will last over a month, only to later quit as well, while being paid an above minimum wage salary? i guess its easier to collect a $200.00 unemployment check for your alcohol and drugs.
Wally
September 29th, 2011
4:43 pm
I am telling you now, the illegal criminals will be the death to us all. They are stealing from us,breaking all kinds of laws,filling up the jails,using all the goverment programs that are available, and now they are gonna control who is elected in this country. Just look at the way most of them,politicians dance around the illegal situation,with the exception of Mitt Romney. Better wise up Folks, before it is too late.
Wally
September 29th, 2011
4:49 pm
•In Los Angeles, 95% of some 1,500 outstanding warrants for homicides are for illegal aliens. About 67% of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.
•There are currently over 400,000 unaccounted for illegal alien criminals with outstanding deportation orders. At least one fourth of these are hard core criminals.
•80,000 to 100,000 illegal aliens who have been convicted of serious crimes are walking the streets. Based on studies they will commit an average of 13 serious crimes per perpetrator.
•Illegal aliens are involved in criminal activities at a rate that is 2-5 times their representative proportion of the population.
•In 1980, our Federal and state facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens but at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities at a cost of about $6.8 billion per year.
•At least 4.5 million pounds of cocaine with a street value of at least $72 billion is smuggled across the southern border every year. ..
•56% of illegal aliens charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted on at least 5 prior occasions.
•Illegal aliens charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. 90% had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, 50% had been arrested for violent or drug-related felonies.
•Illegal aliens commit between 700,000 to 1,289,000 or more crimes per year.
•Illegal aliens commit at least 2,158 murders each year — a number that represents three times greater participation than their proportion of the population.
•Illegal alien sexual predators commit an estimated 130,909 sexual crimes each year.
•There may be as many as 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders circulating throughout America. Based on studies, they will commit an average of 8 sex crimes per perpetrator before being caught.
•Nearly 63% of illegal alien sex offenders had been deported on another offense prior to committing the sex crime.
•Only 2% of the illegal alien sex offenders in one study had no history of criminal behavior, beyond crossing the border illegally.
•In Operation Predator, ICE arrested and deported 6,085 illegal alien pedophiles. Some studies suggest each pedophile molests average of 148 children. If so, that could be as many as 900,580 victims.
•Nobody knows how big the Sex Slave problem is but it is enormous.
•The very brutal MS-13 gang has over 15,000 members and associates in at least 115 different cliques in 33 states.
•The overall financial impact of illegal alien crimes is estimated at between $14.4 and $81 billion or more per year. Factor in the crime as a result of the cocaine and other drugs being smuggled in and the number may reach $150 billion per year.
Still think illegal immigration is a “victimless crime” and we don’t need to control our borders? Remember, about 60% of the crimes being committed are by illegal aliens who were previously deported.
SuperGeorge
September 29th, 2011
5:17 pm
Clear Man
You do not have clear that products from China are cheap labor and many jobs went to China.
If you do not like this system do not buy products from China and tacos from Mexican restaurants.
Think that most fruit and vegetables are done with illegal immigration also.. so…
What are you going to eat?
Mr. Obama did promise “high priority to immigration reform his first year of government” got the Latin votes and after two years and having a Democratic Congress doing nothing in this issue his promise was broken….
So all those Latin legal votes are not happy and probably are not going republican either, so this will be less people voting and going to a “do not care” democratic system and thats not good.
States try to do something without real studies risking more and ore racial problems.
And of course in Washington DC do not understand the “status quo” is bad and everyday worse
GA Dawg
September 29th, 2011
5:21 pm
hey Wally, care to share with us all where you got all those wonderful statistics?
GA Dawg
September 29th, 2011
5:29 pm
Wally… I’m waiting… you must have it handy.
pat cleburne
September 29th, 2011
6:01 pm
GA Dawg, Do you want some statistics? Dalton Public Schools are 70% Hispanic. 85% of the outstanding warrants on the Dalton Police Department blog are Hispanic – look for yourself – I’m sure a smart guy like you can google the info. The Health Dept. is broke, the hospital is wrecked, half of the drivers on the road have no license. Everyone in town either has been involved in an accident with an illegal alien, or knows someone who has. Drive up to Dalton and take a look. It is a third world slum, in every respect, because of fools like yourself. You don’t have a clue.
charlie alexander
September 29th, 2011
8:00 pm
Illegals have not only drained state and federal resources,pay few if any taxes, but have also taken jobs that many americans would beg for.I personally want to see all of them go back to Mexico and hope to never see another Mexican ,period.
vcatron
September 29th, 2011
8:01 pm
Interesting Obama’s uncle is not being charged for being here illeagally….
Michael Marr
September 29th, 2011
8:10 pm
This must be the laziest way ever to get page views. Just lift something from the Washington Post and just bask in the comments. By the way, as a regular reader of said Post, it has thousands of posts on this red meat topic. I guess they read and write more up there. Here you need to have UGA take a dump or something to get a thousand hits. GO DAWGS!
td
September 29th, 2011
8:12 pm
Obama, here is a clue for you. Put troops on the borders to stop the illegals and the drug cartels. Enforce the current immigration laws to the tee (not just the way you wish to interpret them). Prosecute the employers for hiring illegals.
GA Dawg
September 29th, 2011
8:50 pm
Enter your comments here
GA Dawg
September 29th, 2011
8:56 pm
Pat… you sure have some anger on you regarding the current state in the city of Dalton. Where you run out of town by some Latino up there or something!? However, It would be nice when folks such as yourself, would also post the source of all those numbers you throw in. It is just the educated thing to do, you know, so that readers can actually to try and grasp that what you are saying is factual. But than again, when your kind just go on a statistics throwing spree, you could care less if what you say it’s right or not.
GA Dawg
September 29th, 2011
9:01 pm
Hey charlie, I’m sure you are dying to get into one of those onion picking jobs that you are craving for. I hear that there are about 15k of those positions available. you know, the ones that American citizens are begging for. I guess they haven’t heard about the openings, because the Governor is thinking about putting criminals to fill those openings. I guess we can count on you to take one of those openings. Don’t forget your sunscreen!
Glass House Rocker
September 29th, 2011
9:10 pm
Is part of the oath a President takes to uphold the Constitution and enforce the laws of the USA? Do Congressmen and women take a similar oath?
Can the individual states sue the Federal Government for not enforcing its laws and recover the costs the states–and its residents who are citizens of the USA–have incured because of the Federal Government has deliberately ignored its responsibility to enforce the laws of the USA?
td
September 29th, 2011
9:16 pm
The below is a little written document to let you libs know how us conservatives really feel:
The following was written by State Representative Mitchell Kaye from Cobb County, GA.
PREAMBLE: We, the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid any more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior and secure the blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great gr…andchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt-ridden, delusional and other liberal bed wetters. We hold these truths to be self-evident: that a whole lot of people were confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim that they require a Bill of No Rights.
ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing you anything.
ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone – not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc., but accept the fact that the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful; do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.
ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.
ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we’re just not interested in public health care.
ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim or kill someone, don’t be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.
ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don’t be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won’t have the right to a big-screen color TV or a life of leisure.
ARTICLE VIII: You don’t have the right to demand that our children risk their lives in foreign wars to soothe your aching conscience. We hate oppressive governments and won’t lift a finger to stop you from going to fight if you’d like. However, we do not enjoy parenting the entire world and do not want to spend so much of our time battling each and every little tyrant with a military uniform and a funny hat.
ARTICLE IX: You don’t have the right to a job. All of us sure want all of you to have one, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.
ARTICLE X: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to pursue happiness – which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an overabundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.
The truth
September 29th, 2011
10:00 pm
Hug your children. Tell them that there are many roads that they can follow. The journey ultimately leads to the same place. Life is a blessing y’all. Learn to help people because you never know when you will need a helping hand or a true friend.
Dbruce
September 29th, 2011
10:47 pm
Folks, lets remember that while many of us may like this law, any GOP candidate that supports this bill can essentially kiss the hispanic vote goodbye! Don’t think this matters? Well, to beat Obama, votes in heavly hispanic states will be needed. Any GOP official that says votes from California, Oregon, Washington State, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, New York or even Florida are not important they are lying. Also, its probably no secret to the Obama election team that most people in Georgia, Alabama and perhaps Arizona had not intention of voting for him in 2012. Thus, there is no political risk associated with challenging the immigration laws in court. For the Georgia GOP to pass this bill now is more of a headache than a benefit.
Fashionette
September 29th, 2011
10:53 pm
If the federal government would enforce the immigration laws like it’s supposed to, and which we pay it to do through our taxes, they wouldn’t need to sue the states. It’s that simple.
rr
September 29th, 2011
10:54 pm
I absolutely LOVE the comments about how the rate of illegal entry into the US have dropped over last few years … Could it be that there has been a lower level of economic activity – commonly called a MAJOR recession? Could it be the separate state efforts to reduce their individual attractiveness so the illegal population have fewer places to go? This is the BEST time to prepare for the FUTURE recovery that the government claims is just around the corner by eliminating the draws that bring the undocumented to us and PUNISHING the businesses that push their expenses off on the rest of us indirectly. And PLEASE NO more harping on the farming situation – they can bring in as many legal workers as they need – they just have to plan to use the tools supplied them for this activity like other businesses. The farms that didn’t this last crop season will in 2012. Time to move on to a real issue.
rr
September 29th, 2011
11:08 pm
PLEASE STOP TELLING EVERYONE THAT HISPANICS can’t follow the immigration laws that the US has in place. This is really RACIST and used by groups who try to raise funding without actually understanding us. Hispanics are no different than other races, we can FOLLOW the law and just like other races, a small percentage are real criminals. PLEASE don’t say the standing up for the law will lose the vote of a complete race of people, this at best is EXTREMELY misguided. Are you actually going to say that all IRISH are drunks and shouldn’t have a drivers license?. Are you going to say that all black people are feeble minded and can’t support themselves? ENOUGH
honested
September 30th, 2011
12:22 am
tiny dog,
It is apparent how you guys feel.
I want to know how (and if you can) think.
The bill you reference is nothing but wrong wing bull.
But back to my first post on this thread, when are we going to see the MASS EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGALS frog marched into the jailhouse?
No jobs for illegal immigrants, no illegal immigrants (does anybody have any idea how hard it is for an expat gringo to get a job in Mexico City?).
The Employers are the ‘dealer level’ criminals. Put them in prison and sell their stuff to Citizens who will employ Citizens.
What is so impossibly difficult about that concept to absorb?
Buymadeinusjobs
September 30th, 2011
1:43 am
The employers are responsible for the illegals being here. You waste money exporting illegals ,more will replace those tommorrow.
How you stop illegals from coming??? They need to go back home and say the employers will not give me a job. The employers are to blame not illegals, no job they will leave.
The employer hire the illegals and push down wages for Americans. There is no excuse, there are plenty of Americans trying to get work.
The employer should have to pay $20,000 for each illegal found on his job site whether his employee or subcontractor’s because he is one responsible. He and subontractor should pay, and spend some time in jail.
What about confiscating his business like you take car/boat/house/money when someone is caught with drugs or breaking another law,
You have to blame your neighbor, businessman, contractor, restaurant if you see his work-site does not have a mixed group or too many workers not speaking English. See if your local police will check it out, but with businessman’s pull I do not know if you will get far.
fire eater
September 30th, 2011
4:19 am
Let the confrontation come…we are eager for the fray.
It is time to take the battle against the third word invasion of the West to the next level with NEW laws targeting illegals…how about a challenge to the Supreme Court’s flawed 5-4 ruling in Plyler v. Doe requiring taxpayers to babysit illegal alien children in public schools or the insane ruling giving American citizenship to children of illegal aliens.
Southern states’ laws against illegal aliens are causing them to leave and either self-deport or go to the “sanctuary” areas like California or New York. I am sure that the exodus of productive people from “blue” illegal alien-friendly states will escalate…that’s great! This is another reason that the Establishment wants to stop these laws…they escalate “The Big Sort” of America into communities of like-minded folk.
We do not need a bottomless pool of cheap labor for big business or an instant proletarian mob for deployment by marxist revolutionaries in this country. Post-1965 immigration has been a disaster for America and may cause its death.
Buckhead Boy
September 30th, 2011
5:04 am
I have a friend of Cherokee descent. He considers us to be illegal aliens too, and is about the only person I know who can address the issue with any moral authority.
Rick in Grayson
September 30th, 2011
5:48 am
Some bloggers here believe that anyone who wants to enter the US should be granted permission…essentially and open borders immigration policy.
US immigration policy should benefit the US and it’s citizens, not the other way around! I don’t care how “hard” it might be to enter the US legally, we are a sovereign nation and like most sovereign nations, the government should make decisions that aid their citizens.
We certainly do not need any more low-skilled workers in the US, we are graduating or failing to graduate from HS, plenty of US citizens that will HAVE to do these low skilled jobs or they shouldn’t be getting any unemployment checks.
Our population is swelling and second generation migrants will not work any harder than current US citizens. Our welfare system as it is currently executed, will only “develop” more slackers here in the US.
Rick in Grayson
September 30th, 2011
5:50 am
Get behind the efforts to pass a mandatory E-Verify bill (one is in the House right now) and deny jobs to illegal aliens…they will self-deport when the money runs out.
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Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
September 30th, 2011
6:17 am
President Obama is considering placing stumbling blocks before Georgia’s attempt to defend the People from an openly published, organized invasion for conquest through the promotion and protection of illegal immigration by Hispanic Roman Catholics, orchestrated by the historic socio-political entity identified by America’s Founder as “the real Anti-Christ” but. doesn’t want to “crack down” on Bush and Cheney for having committed 9/11, though in “Audacity of Hope” he tacitly acknowledges their treason.
It is no coincidence he came from a confused, dysfunctional, perverse upbringing: As the twig is bent…
It is now time for Georgia and Atlanta, guided by Our Creed and twin prophets, Mr. Jefferson and Dr. King, to lead Our Nation from the the looming abyss.
Neither the Demublicans nor the Republicrats serve righteousness, though Governor Deal may truly be a blessing to us all.
We must reform and refound this Promised Land, by G-d.
Death for Treason
The Fasces must be removed from the front wall of the U.S. House
Rome out of America, now…and leave the money
The People sovereign once more
GB
September 30th, 2011
6:38 am
John D:
You probably won’t read this, but just in case…
I read your criticism of JV’s comment about the costs that illegals immigrants impose on taxpayers. I noted that you poo-pooed these numbers just by saying “They came from FAIR.” That is not an argument. The numbers are the numbers. If they are accurate they are accurate. If they are not they are not. If you don’t think they are right you may want to provide some information. Name calling – FAIR is just a propoganda machine – contributes nothing.
Buzz G
September 30th, 2011
7:21 am
Obama needs illegal alien votes. Americans have figured out what a fraud this guy is and they won’t vote for him. Look for large numbers of illegal aliens to vote in some states come next November.
OG
September 30th, 2011
9:53 am
buzz G-illegal aliens to vote? you’ve out-smarted the government! if you have a way to find out how illegal aliens are voting, and tracking how many are voting, you must report your brilliant finding to the government!!!!! idiot.
honested
September 30th, 2011
10:32 am
buzz (and everyone else hawking the lame ‘illegal vote’ mantra)
ILLEGAL ALIENS CAN’T VOTE!! THEY NEVER HAVE!!
Disagree, show a legitimate example.
The ACORN lie won’t work either. ACORN was an independent organization that had been around for a long time. They registered otherwise disenfranchised CITIZENS. They registered poor people (which annoyed the top 2%). They were never an arm of the Democratic party or the Obama Administration (despite the brightbutt/fauxnewz lies).
Show an example or shut up and face the facts!!
td
September 30th, 2011
8:50 pm
honested
September 30th, 2011
10:32 am
If you do not believe illegals vote then you live in a dream world. Motor voter and ACORN has insured illegals vote. Motor voter require that every person applying for benefits in a welfare office be offered voter registration. Do you think illegals turn down the chance? How many states give illegals drivers licence. They get offered voter registration also.
rick perry's soft head
September 30th, 2011
9:03 pm
Sweet Home Alabama
We all love our new immigration law in Birmingham
True blue
September 30th, 2011
9:59 pm
I wish you terrorists would say it to my face! I would land one and make you toothless you rottin pussies. Leave the immigrants alone! Why do priests touch little boys?!?!?!?! DOWN WITH REPUBLICANS BABY!!!!!!!!!
rick perry's soft head
September 30th, 2011
10:42 pm
Choke on it loser. It’s in your face!
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
September 30th, 2011
11:16 pm
Buckhead Boy
September 30th, 2011
5:04 am
I have a friend of Cherokee descent. He considers us to be illegal aliens too, and is about the only person I know who can address the issue with any moral authority.
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Not so: Many Americans and more Southerners are part Native American, fulfilling the ancient prophesy – shared in the theology and prophecy of the Native Americans tribes who welcomed and assisted the Europeans as directed by the one single G-d – that all nations of the world will flow into a new nation – the New Israel – ruled only by Truth and Justice under G-d alone, a nation of true priests…sovereign individuals.
The Hispanic Roman Catholic illegal immigrants are an army of conquest orchestrated by the revealed Anti-Christ for whom Bushes and Rockefellers have treasonously labored for over a hundred years. Their stratagem is openly published for all to read: “National Pastoral Plan for Hispanic Ministry,” Publication / Office of Publishing and Promotion Services, United States Catholic Conference, No. 199-7, ISBN-13: 978-1555861995
Our Nation’s moral authority will begin to be restored after Bush and Cheney are brought to justice for 9/11. Prosperity will then follow. The DC Quake was but a warning.