Why you should place your bets on a mid-March presidential primary in Georgia

The Florida GOP has set phone lines blazing with news that it will defy the Republican National Convention and hold its presidential primary on Jan. 31.

Secretary of State Brian Kemp just announced that he’ll announce at 11 a.m. Thursday the date of Georgia’s 2012 presidential primary.

Place your bets on one of four Tuesday’s in March, beginning with the 6th.

On Saturday, the executive committee of the Georgia Republican party quietly – and unanimously – shifted its delegation allotment system from winner-take-all to proportional, state GOP chairman Sue Everhart confirmed this afternoon.

“We changed our rules to be a proportionate state, and that allows us to go in March,” Everhart said. “I don’t know what dates [Kemp] is looking at.”

The RNC had declared that all states in which a victorious candidate wins all delegates (Georgia has 76) must wait until April 1 to hold a primary – an attempt to maintain the drama and keep voters engaged beyond the first few contests.

States that award delegates proportionately can hold primaries as early as March 6 – unless they are Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina, or a certain Sunshine State that will host the national GOP convention next year.

Should Georgia move its primary earlier than March 6, then it would be subject to losing half its Tampa delegation. Everhart, as chairman, would be the first to lose her credentials — which might please Gov. Nathan Deal.

But also losing his credentials would be Alec Poitevint, a member of the Republican National Committee and chairman of the committee in charge of the Tampa convention. That would be awkward.

Note that Alabama and Mississippi have already scheduled their primaries for March 13, 2012. Were Georgia to join them, that would create something of a Deep South primary, with Georgia as the largest prize in the group.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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44 comments Add your comment

DixieDemons

September 28th, 2011
1:44 pm

Georgia is the new Mississippi. High poverty rates, Low morals, Poorly educated., home of the Johnny Reb flag flying redneck that wants to create “something of a Deep South primary”

JSH

September 28th, 2011
1:59 pm

The only demons in dixie is between your ears.

Booger Fling

September 28th, 2011
2:07 pm

Who cares? Doesn’t matter who wins anyway. More of the same regardless!

Independent voter

September 28th, 2011
2:09 pm

Georgia is disgrace the republicans are changing everything. Georgia already look bad because of the killing of Troy Davis I wonder what next for Georgia.

Vote them out of the office

Independent voter

September 28th, 2011
2:11 pm

Georgia want to cut people unemployment benefits $330 per week is not enough to take care of fmaily and they want to cut $330 per week. I say tax the rich maybe Georgia could bring more job.

Vote them out of the office

JSH

September 28th, 2011
2:12 pm

I say, get a damn job.

Independent voter

September 28th, 2011
2:16 pm

I have damm Job

B. Thenet

September 28th, 2011
2:24 pm

I like the Deep South primary idea, maybe some of these guys would put some bus trips together and actually have to campaign in state for once.

I am tired of us being a primary that is generally ignored nationally by Dems and GOPers alike.

sharon

September 28th, 2011
2:28 pm

Get an education! It could improve your grammer and might possibly aid in getting a job, since I doubt you have one.

C. Tampa Ironworse

September 28th, 2011
2:29 pm

Don’t vote, it only encourages them. And Troy Davis was killed? Wasn’t he already executed the other day?

cartoon

September 28th, 2011
2:43 pm

not between his ears. it’s between his legs.

Centrist

September 28th, 2011
3:11 pm

Since I don’t much care about the conservative Republican primary, I’ll point out that it is a bad day for liberals:

1. “Federal judge upholds most of Alabama immigration law”

2. The NFIB and 26 states jumped ahead of Eric Holder’s slow-moving DOJ (which until Monday had done everything it could to slow-walk this case filed by 26 states and the NFIB) and has petitioned the Supreme Court to overturn Obamacare. What also differentiates this particular case from the many other lawsuits that have been filed against Obamacare is the “all star” lineup of Supreme Court litigators that the NFIB and the 26 states have lined up to argue their case before the Supreme Court. It includes Michael Carvin, a former DOJ official who has argued (and won) numerous cases before the Court; Gregory Katsas, a former DOJ official who was a clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas; Kevin Marshal, another former DOJ official and Thomas clerk; Hashim Mooppan, a former Justice Antonin Scalia clerk; and Randy Barnett, a nationally recognized constitutional scholar and professor at Georgetown.

The lawyers for the states include Paul Clement, former Bush Administration Solicitor General; Lee Casey, another former DOJ official who clerked for Alex Kozinski, who is now the Chief Judge of the Ninth Circuit; and David Rivkin, another Supreme Court litigator with wide experience in the government, including in the White House and the DOJ.

The government lawyers in the DOJ’s Office of the Solicitor General who will be arguing the constitutionality of Obamacare will have their work cut out for them.

UGA 1999

September 28th, 2011
3:15 pm

Obama is doomed.

Big Daddy

September 28th, 2011
3:19 pm

The execution of a cop-killing felon makes Georgia look bad only to those ignorant of constitutional procedure, facts, and due process of law.

UGA 1999

September 28th, 2011
3:19 pm

Bid Daddy….AMEN!!!!

beehive

September 28th, 2011
3:24 pm

@sharon

Get an education! It could improve your spelling. Grammar, not grammer …

History Will Teach Us If We Will Learn

September 28th, 2011
3:32 pm

Centrist and all who label anyone who disagrees with them a liberal, its ironic that a retired “liberal” Justice, John Paul Stevens encouraged the Supreme Court Justices to get on with it and issue an decision before the election. Though not really much of a liberal, Justice Stevens is and always has been one to go straight to the heart of a matter without much BS.

“The filings, on behalf of 26 states and the National Federation of Independent Business, also said the justices should act before the 2012 presidential election because of uncertainty over costs and requirements.

On the issue of timing, their cause got an unexpected boost from retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, who said voters would be better off if they knew the law’s fate law before casting their ballots next year.

The 91-year-old Stevens said in an Associated Press interview that the justices would not shy away from deciding the case in the middle of a presidential campaign and would be doing the country a service. “It would be better to have that known about than be speculated as a part of the political argument,” Stevens said in his Supreme Court office overlooking the Capitol.”

Let’s hope this “Conservative” court is up to the task.

jeff

September 28th, 2011
3:36 pm

sharon
September 28th, 2011
2:28 pm

Get an education! It could improve your grammer and might possibly aid in getting a job, since I doubt you have one.

=====
“Grammer.” LOL!!!

Sigh.....Fulton, Cobb, Atlanta school systems are racist too??

September 28th, 2011
3:40 pm

so yesterday, you made a HUGE to-do about a gwinnett county school allowing parents to “opt their kids out” of the presidents speech…..and today per the AJC, it looks like pretty much every other school system is “opting out” of it as well. But where is the huge ruckus???

Oh, stupid me, that didn’t fit the author’s outdated view that Gwinnett is full of a bunch of white red neck racists….no wonder I NEVER see AJC papers in driveways anymore. What a biased perspective, with no “mea-culpa” when it turns out that you tried to create a tempest and there was nothing there.

Centrist

September 28th, 2011
3:52 pm

@ History posted “Centrist and all who label anyone who disagrees with them a liberal …”

I disagree with BOTH the liberal left and conservative right fringes. This blog is mostly about/ supports liberal issues.

I, too, am glad that the Supreme Court will likely rule on Obamacare by next June. It certainly appeared that the Obama administration is/was hoping to postpone such a decision until after the election – just like the debt ceiling debate. The Supreme Court’s next session starts October 1st, and now has Obamacare before it (assuming they will accept the petition). Since the 11th Circuit Court struck down a primary portion which the 26 states fought – it would appear to be an uphill battle for the Obama administration to get the Supreme Court to overturn that ruling, and it may result in much more of it to be rejected. With over 1,000 waivers for favored unions and corporations – it is obviously going to be dramatically reworked, if not thrown out.

GaBlue

September 28th, 2011
4:01 pm

Who says there aren’t jobs? That post at 3:52 is totally “shovel ready.”

Independent voter

September 28th, 2011
4:09 pm

President Obama going to win 4 more years look who running as a republicans some goofy’s that way Gov Christie scared to run because he know the republican/teabaggars dont have chance beating president Obama and look what they say about the red state/ soutern state they have the highest poverty rate because of the republican party in the south.

Centrist

September 28th, 2011
4:11 pm

@ GaBlue posted: “That post at 3:52 is totally ’shovel ready.’ ”

Without a single item from the referenced post being disputed, your blanket statement is what is “shovel ready”. At least it is not the debating technique so many other liberals use here – calling the posters/ political parties/ politicians names.

Independent voter

September 28th, 2011
4:11 pm

I guess the school system fail sharon Jeff maybe it time for change in Georgia and get the republicans out of the office.

Georgia use to be a great state now everybody looking at Georgia as a racist state and a killer state.

cartoon

September 28th, 2011
4:14 pm

The only thing shovel ready are the cult-blog hitler-twins of hate-festering, troll-coddling pustules of posits known as Bookman/Wingfield.

Shovels to the front!

Independent voter

September 28th, 2011
4:16 pm

I seen on MSNBC last nite that they going to ask Clarance Thomas not to participate on the US Sepreme Court decision because his wife a Teabaggar members and they will have conflict on the decision on the repeal.

Centrist

September 28th, 2011
4:19 pm

Are ANY of you liberals here embarrassed by “Independent” voter, honested, DannyX, Aqaugirl, and a few others who ruin a sensible debate from your side? There are a few of you who do a decent job – but should call out your compatriots who make outrageous statements.

Smoke

September 28th, 2011
4:20 pm

Dixiecrats are practicing changing their primary proportion rules to refine their efforts to see how to alter the electorial college for political advantage. When you lose, change the rules!!!

GaBlue

September 28th, 2011
4:20 pm

Lighten up, Francis. Er, “Centrist.” You’re still yammering on about “Obamacare” from what you claim is a “centrist” position, as if your partisan rhetoric is any more relevant today than all our yesterdays. I’ll believe you observe and report from the middle the day I read about 28,653 posts from you slamming the “conservative right fringe” the way you do all things left of far right. Until then, remember: Compost in the fall will make for great veggies in your garden next year. Why not grab a shovel and put that stuff to good use? It’s a beautiful day! Hope you learn to enjoy such a thing before it’s too late (but I won’t place my bet on it.)

Centrist

September 28th, 2011
4:21 pm

And cartoon is not helping his side, either.

Centrist

September 28th, 2011
4:32 pm

@ GaBlue – as often stated – this is a liberal blog, so a centrist mostly debates the liberals. When Galloway or Republicans support theocracy, overturning Roe v. Wade, or oppose a millionaire/billionaire tax (and increasing capital gains taxes for them, too) – I’ll “yammer” (oppose) them too.

P.S. I’ve been outdoors every day this week, been doing a lot of traveling too (posting from airplanes and other places at times – fun additional hobby) – I have a VERY good life.

Independent voter

September 28th, 2011
4:36 pm

I am not liberal it just sad to see how the government is not listening what the people want we vote you in and we will vote you out.

By the way the I am a independent voter

Sitting Bull

September 28th, 2011
4:36 pm

Why do they use the term justice? The only “justice” in this country is what decision you can afford to purchase. Marx was correct, democracy (or representative democracy) will devolve into pure self-interest.
Why are we in this handbasket and where are we going?

Independent voter

September 28th, 2011
4:40 pm

What justice is in this country when they have innocent people in Georgia put to death because of what someone say it a sad to see how justice system could determine if I live or die.

Michael Marr

September 28th, 2011
4:41 pm

It appears only one of these comments actually addresses the proportional primary, which would be a good thing. They should do it in the electoral college as well. I wish there had been proportional delegates in 1992 so Jesse Jackson’s votes would have meant a little something.

Independent voter

September 28th, 2011
4:46 pm

What does Jesse Jackson got to do what goes on in Georgia primary.
I hope Rick Perry win the GOP nonimee so President Obama would sitt him down a seat and say dont say nothing because you making yourself look bad.

I cant wait until Republican/ Demoncrate Debate

Michael Marr

September 28th, 2011
4:49 pm

The article is about proportionate primaries. Georgia has never had a proportionate primary but wants to have one now. This means all candidates get to take their votes and concomitant delegates to the convention. In prior years, such as the 1992 primary where a significant Black candidate for president ran, he could only get Georgia delegates if he won the entire primary. Sorry if mentioning a hated liberal flummoxed you.

Independent voter

September 28th, 2011
4:56 pm

Michael Marr does you belong to the teaparty or are you a republican. I keep saying i’m a independent voter not a liberal. I just dont like the republican heading our country now and they are no good president candidates. I whether have president Obama in office then the teaparty candidates. I wish Ronald Reagan was living so he can tell the republican party how to be a party of yes not no. Reagan was a good president.

cartoon

September 28th, 2011
5:09 pm

Centrist, Y dont U take a fork and put steel wool on the end of it and shove it up high.

moron. “Duh, I think I have to respond to every idle comment anyone makes, duh.”

Just get lost, and then stfu. Oh? You’re posting from an airplane? Then join the mile-heil club, you nazi pos. (Insert emoticon of an only good indian.)

bwa what a dope, honestly.

History Will Teach Us If We Will Learn

September 28th, 2011
5:10 pm

This country always has had a messy democratic process. Its what keeps us more or less free. Truth will always be in the eye of the beholder. The bloggers here prove that everyday. I’m appreciative that Mr. Galloway gets the ball rolling with good humour and patience and I think he’s as fair and balanced as the Fox News Network.

james j andrews

September 28th, 2011
6:07 pm

If you read the post here, you will soon discover that 20% of the posters post 80% of the post, and they are so predictible, that you might as well not read beyond the poster. Very little of substance ever transpires. It’s a lot like the movie “Groundhog Day” – sheeple on the left vs sheeple on the right. For whatever reason, most of the verbosity is on the right, and it’s countered by most of the contempt, from the left, though strictly following party lines, they both refer to themselves as independents.

Last Man Standing

September 28th, 2011
7:02 pm

“By the way the I am a independent voter”

Sure, you are! You are also a student of the law! Both facts are evidenced in your statements.

Last Man Standing

September 28th, 2011
8:40 pm

cartoon:

Mickey Mouse – without a doubt.

td

September 28th, 2011
8:54 pm

Smoke

September 28th, 2011
4:20 pm
Dixiecrats are practicing changing their primary proportion rules to refine their efforts to see how to alter the electorial college for political advantage. When you lose, change the rules!!!

What are you talking about? The Republicans in the state changing the way their delegates vote in the Republican convention has absolutely nothing to do with the electoral college and the Presidential election.

Did you know that you and I really do not have the right to vote for the President and we do not vote for the President directly? The state legislature gets to determine who the electors are and they could just say they are the electors and vote for any President they want too and it is totally legal.

I would advise you to do a little more reserch and a little less calling eveything the fault of the dixiecrats.