Your morning jolt: Fla. win no guarantee, says Herman Cain

GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain addresses delegates at the Republican Party of Florida Presidency 5 Convention and Straw Poll at the Orange County Convention Center in Orlando. Joe Burbank/Orlando Sentinel/MCT

GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain addresses delegates at the Republican Party of Florida Presidency 5 Convention and Straw Poll at the Orange County Convention Center in Orlando. Joe Burbank/Orlando Sentinel/MCT

Herman Cain spent Monday morning relishing his startling Saturday victory in Florida’s GOP presidential straw poll, but stopped short of citing his 37 percent showing as a guarantee of future success.

Cain won 37.1 percent of more than 2,500 votes cast in the straw poll conducted at the tail end of a three-day convention of activists in Orlando. Conducted off-and-on since 1979, the winner of the Florida straw poll has gone on to win the Republican nomination.

“I think it means we have picked up some substantial momentum,” Cain said in an interview with Scott Slade on AM750 and 95.5FM News/Talk WSB – where Cain once served as a night-time talk show host.

“I don’t think that the past is necessarily a predictor of the future, although I like the fact that this has been a trend over the years. But the political landscape has changed so much…that I don’t think that it guarantees anything – other than I and my team, we need to keep working hard,” Cain said.

The attention has given Cain a window to plug his economic plan: A shift in the U.S. tax code to a 9 percent corporate tax, a 9 percent personal income tax, and a 9-percent sales tax.

But the former pizza magnate gave himself credit for overcoming the media’s focus on other candidates. Cain said he drew two lessons from the vote: “No. 1, the voice of the people is more powerful than the voice media. And No. 2, message is more important than money.”

In fact, most national news outlets focused on the straw poll results as a setback for Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

From the New York Times:

But Mr. Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, left the state early Friday for events in Indiana and Michigan, effectively telegraphing that his campaign did not place that much importance on the result.
Mr. Perry stayed in Florida through Saturday morning and hosted the breakfast for conference delegates. A win for Mr. Perry at the straw poll might have helped blunt criticism that has been building of his performance in Thursday night’s debate.

From Politico.com:

An issue that may have less impact in other early-state Republican primaries, immigration is a hot-button issue in Florida — and Perry’s botched attempt to explain his policies back home in Texas during Thursday’s Fox News debate has soured conservative activists here on him.

In interview after interview as they filed out of the Orange County Convention Center hall where votes were cast, delegates pointed to his support for a state-based version of the DREAM Act — which provides in-state tuition rates to some illegal immigrants — and his denouncement of those who disagree as lacking “a heart.”

Pointing to the fact that Michele Bachmann won the GOP presidential straw poll in Iowa, and immediately sank, has WP’s The Fix wondering if the Republican’s sharp rightward shift hasn’t rendered the informal votes useless as a predictor:

Straw polls in which only a few thousand people (at most) vote tend to reward candidates with the most loyal, not necessarily the largest, vote bases. The more attention a candidate lavishes on a straw poll, the more likely he or she is to win it. Only the most conservative portion of the Republican base shows up at these events, skewing the results to the most ideological candidate, not the most electable one.

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The AJC’s Politifact Georgia today takes a look at GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain’s claim that we are in the worst jobs recovery since the Great Depression.

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Given this Tweet from a NYT reporter on Saturday, Mitt Romney has conceded the LaGrange vote to Rick Perry, or maybe Herman Cain:

Romney says it’s good to be back in MI where you see “More Fords and Chevys and Dodges than you see Nissans and Kias and Toyotas”

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State Rep. Martin Scott, R-Rossville, had already served notice that a call to the pulpit would prevent him from seeking re-election in 2012. The Chattanooga Free Press pointed out this weekend how religion has warped the man’s thinking:

“I just was not convinced of the fairness of the maps we voted for,” said [Scott]. “I thought more could be done to ensure the other side felt like they had fair access to mapmaking abilities and lawyers that we had.”

Scott was one of two Republicans to vote against the House legislative map, which was criticized widely by Democrats who said they weren’t given a fair chance to develop their own map until the last minute.

Scott had not returned messages asking about the mapmaking process during or after the session, but he returned one left last week.

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On that same topic: Just before the weekend broke, Aaron Blake over at WP’s The Fix posted a list of the “10 most gerrymandered districts of 2011.” Georgia accounted for one-fifth of the total:

– Coming in at No. 9 was the 8th District of U.S. Rep. Austin Scott, R-Tifton:

While the GOP could have massaged the new districts to go after Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.) in the southwest corner of the state, instead they moved Scott’s Macon Democrats into Bishop’s district and moved the freshman south into more conservative territory from the districts represented by Bishop and Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R). Scott’s current district went 43 percent for Obama; his new one would have given the president just 33 percent.

– But U.S. Rep. John Barrow, R-Savannah, rated second place:

Republicans chopped off Barrow’s base (and home) in more liberal Savannah in the southeast part of Georgia’s 12th district and gave him more of the strongly Republican Augusta area to the northeast, completely reshaping the district and making Barrow a marked man. The 12th drops from a swing district that went 55 percent for Obama to one that would go about 40 percent for Obama.

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The Augusta Chronicle provided this happy news on Sunday:

In 2004 and for the next two years, the indictment and conviction of three prominent politicians rocked the Augusta area. In a few years all three will be released from federal prisons.

Linda Schrenko, Robin Williams and Charles W. Walker Sr. should complete their prison sentences on Aug. 29, 2013, July 20, 2014, and Sept. 26, 2014, respectively — except Walker could be out earlier if his current appeal suceeds.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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88 comments Add your comment

Centrist

September 26th, 2011
12:32 pm

I have to agree with GaBlue here, and think Obama will get re-elected because:

The Republican presidential field is weak – no single charismatic candidate. Obama will have cover on the tax/spending issue via the debt deal “super committee”. Those spending cuts and tax increases will likely be kicked down the road past the election.

Incumbency creates a campaign contribution advantage, and many strings can be pulled in an election year to buy votes. Obama is going to have a huge money advantage – especially if he does not need to spend/defend during primaries.

The liberal media is firmly behind him, and will get EVEN MORE partisan as the election draws near.

Larry L. Clifton

September 26th, 2011
12:36 pm

You have to love the Tea Party. The powers that be just can’t get a handle on it no matter how hard they try. They can dismiss, demagogue, blame, slander, insult and just throw their hands up and scream hateful diatribes. You gotta’ love it. They will realize sooner or, more likely, later that the Tea Party is America! The Tea Party is us…your neighbor, your friend, your law enforcement officer, your clergyman, plumber, banker, real estate broker, mom and dad, son or daughter in the military, etc,etc,etc, It is a whole lot of Americans that are fed up with poor governance. The results of 60+ years of inept leadership is why we are 15 trillion in debt. Wake up America…The Tea Party is the party that is changing America for the better. The Tea Party is the people that will INSIST on sound economic policy and responsible government. Thank the Tea Party today. Join the Tea Party!

DannyX

September 26th, 2011
12:39 pm

“The liberal media is firmly behind him, and will get EVEN MORE partisan as the election draws near.”

So the “liberal media” has this magic to determine national elections, but that same liberal media somehow loses its power in Georgia?

GaBlue

September 26th, 2011
12:39 pm

td,

Yes, it happens every year, and I blame the wh0re corporate media. All they care about is ratings, so they sensationalize the easiest stuff to sensationalize by playing on emotions surrounding an election that’s still months or years away. They go on and on all day about what somebody SAID and what everybody else says about what somebody said. Where’s the beef? What news are we NOT geting while we listen to nine talking heads yammer on about one statement at one stupid party convention? What good are polls noting opinions of people whose primary information is… POLLS? I wish we — all of us — had something better to base our decision on, but the media get more ad revenue spinning opinion as fact instead of doing the hard work of getting the boring old facts out to us every day. Sad.

honested

September 26th, 2011
12:43 pm

Face it, this is about as important as dr. paul’s ‘massive victory’ in Perry.

So much flatulence.

honested

September 26th, 2011
12:44 pm

Quck, somebody identify the ‘liberal media’ outlets.

Aside from trustworthy publications like the Nation, I can’t think of any print or broadcast outlets.

honested

September 26th, 2011
12:46 pm

larry l. clifton,

Can you have these tea pottie people put a badge on so I can make sure I do business with somebody who is not one of them?

td

September 26th, 2011
12:49 pm

honested

September 26th, 2011
12:44 pm
Quck, somebody identify the ‘liberal media’ outlets.

Aside from trustworthy publications like the Nation, I can’t think of any print or broadcast outlets

NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, BET, Comedy Central, MTV, NY Times, Washington Post, AP, AJC, Huffington post, Media Matters,

DannyX

September 26th, 2011
12:53 pm

Michelle Bachmann is gobbling up federal dollars, thank the Tea Party.

Nathan Deal said he wouldn’t accept federal strings attached “Race To The Top” education dollars then did, thank the Tea Party. (Ports pork.)

Rick Perry is addicted to federal dollars, thanks Tea Party.

Austin Scott shouts BECAUSE ITS FREE! thanks Tea Party.

Tom Graves says, “I could never ever, ever, ever, in a million years pay it back,” sorry says the Tea Party.

If the Tea Party could win on its own it wouldn’t have to create Republican districts, they could redistrict by a raffle, or pin the tail on the donkey. They wouldn’t have to scream “liberal media” every time a negative story is written.

Thanks Tea Party.

Centrist

September 26th, 2011
12:54 pm

@ DannyX – The AJC has lost most of its influence and readership. Same for local news broadcasts. Georgia’s liberal media influence is not much. But …

@ honested posted “Quck, somebody identify the ‘liberal media’ outlets.”

ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, PBS, AP, most big city newspapers, Time Magazine, Newsweek Magazine. Leftist ideals in news, sitcoms, documentaries, award shows, talk shows, and late night monologues to name a few. It has some affect – but at least partially discounted by an electorate which has been inoculated by the repeated leftist drivel.

td

September 26th, 2011
12:59 pm

Centrist

September 26th, 2011
12:32 pm

I do not see how Obama can win. Please go back and read my earlier post on the demographics. Where is he going to get the votes from to get re elected? I understand that he is going to run a total negative campaign and the media is going to find every little thing to condemn the Republican nominee and help Obama make everything in the past four years look like the Tea Party’s fault. I just do not see the White suburban women giving him the same margin (or any margin at all), I do not see the same intensity in the African American community or the youth and I see the social conservatives will come out in force next year.

I really want to know how you see him winning?

Larry L. Clifton

September 26th, 2011
1:00 pm

Honested, It’s a free country. It will get better and better after the 2012 elections…thanks to the Tea Party. At least there will BE businesses that are still in business for you do do your ‘high finance’. thank the Tea Party for that. Thank Herman Cain too. he will fix a lot of the damage that has been done by 60+ years of fubar leadership from your beloved Dems and Rino Republicans. Best wishes.

GaBlue

September 26th, 2011
1:01 pm

td,

Nice labeling at 12:49, but I hope you’re not going to try to convince us that YOU have labeled those outlets “liberal” based on your own actual ongoing and objective attention to the content they deliver on a daily basis (which would, of course, be the only way you are truly qualified to assign such labels). I’m sure the outlets you champion by slandering their competition appreciate your free support.

DannyX

September 26th, 2011
1:05 pm

“NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, BET, Comedy Central, MTV, NY Times, Washington Post, AP, AJC, Huffington post, Media Matters,”

Yes the liberal media dominates and the conservatives whine. Every single one of those outlets represents CHOICE. Don’t want to read it, don’t watch, don’t click.

If you have the market by all means, get busy. Funny how Murdoch started the Fox Network but didn’t include a nightly news cast, like ABC, NBC, and CBS have. A perfect opportunity to reach a conservative audience passed by because news is not profitable enough, how Republicanlike..

If the AJC hasn’t gotten conservative enough why has no one filled the conservative void with a metro wide conservative newspaper????? What happened to supply and demand? Start your own wire service.

Start your own networks and stop sponging off the liberals. Start a network and put the 700 Club on in prime time, maybe a sitcom that is based on anger instead of laughter. No, when conservatives had the chance they gave us shows like Married with Children, and The Family Guy.

Republicans, stop mooching off popular liberal media and culture.

td

September 26th, 2011
1:06 pm

GaBlue

September 26th, 2011
1:01 pm

You can believe me or not but I read articles out of everyone of the paper outlets I mentioned and the more conservative Washington times, WSJ. I also probably watch more programming on MSNBC and CNN then you do. I rarely watch the networks national news but do see their people on MSNBC, CNN or Fox.

Dacula 1995

September 26th, 2011
1:07 pm

DannyX….”liberal media”…..you said it! WOW, what happened to unbiased news?

DannyX

September 26th, 2011
1:08 pm

Republicans have media envy.

Dacula 1995

September 26th, 2011
1:12 pm

DannyX….actually no we dont. Obama is at 39% approval, the media is not helping him at all. Keep up the good work.

findog

September 26th, 2011
1:12 pm

Retired @ 11:31
The only time in the last 40 years that we had balanced budgets while reducing the national debt was when we had higher taxes and less military spending.
Is that the Tea Party Platform?

Larry L. Clifton

September 26th, 2011
1:16 pm

Herman Cain is just getting started. Thank the Tea Party!

DannyX

September 26th, 2011
1:19 pm

“ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, PBS, AP, most big city newspapers, Time Magazine, Newsweek Magazine. Leftist ideals in news, sitcoms, documentaries, award shows, talk shows, and late night monologues to name a few. It has some affect ”

It’s a free market. What are the conservative alternatives? Why does Fox show programs like “Family Guy?” Why no nightly network news program for their network? Why no “Angry Guy?”

Dacula 1995

September 26th, 2011
1:21 pm

DannyX….ever hear of Foxnews? You should it is the top rated news outlet in America.

Centrist

September 26th, 2011
1:22 pm

The internet has helped overcome the leftist media bias which starts in journalism schools and self filters out conservatives. Hollywood which produces movies and television entertainment is rife with leftists. Turning away from such entertainment is not as feasible as simply discounting the continuous leftist messages.

@ td – Those soccer moms vote their emotions rather than logic. The Obama money advantage with ads and constant leftist media slant and endorsements will carry the day for them with a similar voting results. Blacks and idealistic youth will be turned out once again via an even greater incumbency money advantage – he will not lose his leftist base. There are not enough independents to tilt the results. The media will attack the Republican nominee even more than they did their favorite Republican (McCain).

GaBlue

September 26th, 2011
1:30 pm

Centrist @ 1:22,

Just… wow! I am tempted to spend the next 20 minutes refuting every single sentence in that post (especially the ones that are personally insulting) but I realize that it is not worth my time to refute something you pulled entirely out of your own behind. Do me a favor, though? Stop presuming to know what today’s moms are thinking? Thankyewsomuch!

DannyX

September 26th, 2011
1:31 pm

“DannyX….ever hear of Foxnews?”

Thanks for making my point. Why no network news for the Fox network? Centrist was crying about “liberal media” dominating everything. Conservatives have a chance to air a conservative alternative to ABC, CBS and NBC but have taken a pass, then they continue to whine about the liberal media. Fox has a huge world wide news organization but takes a pass here.

Where are the church and family values programming? They are there too, no one is watching, and no one cares. Conservatives would rather get their entertainment and news from the liberals.

Supply and demand.

Dacula 1995

September 26th, 2011
1:32 pm

GaBlue….you mean like the fact that “today’s mom’s” are sick of Obama? Well atleast 61% of them!!!

Dacula 1995

September 26th, 2011
1:33 pm

DannyX….Supply and demand? No

Billions in financing….yes.

DannyX

September 26th, 2011
1:33 pm

Nothing is stopping conservatives from making their own movies and television shows. Nothing, why blame the liberals?

DannyX

September 26th, 2011
1:34 pm

“Billions in financing….yes.”

Get your own financing. Nobody owes you anything.

Dacula 1995

September 26th, 2011
1:35 pm

DannyX….Did I blame the liberals for movies and television shows?

Dacula 1995

September 26th, 2011
1:36 pm

DannyX…..”nobody owes you anything”……Please tell that to the food stamp, welfare parasites out there. Thank you!

Bill Orvis White

September 26th, 2011
1:49 pm

Why is it that on this lefty blog, Larry Clifton speaks with clear common sense and someone like GaBlue is a clueless far lefty who cannot come up with any good arguments. I ask of you, GaBlue, name me one shovel-ready job Hussein Obama ever created. What? The silence is defeaning because you naive secular progressive fools cannot name me even one! FACT: Hussein Obama did more economic damage to this once-free nation than all of his predecessors combined with their mistakes. The biggest mistake was every putting Hussein Obama into office.
Amen,
Bill

GaBlue

September 26th, 2011
2:13 pm

Mr. White,

With all due respect, this particular column is about Mr. Cain winning the straw poll in Florida over the weekend. My comments were directed at the media coverage of this fascinating “news.” I have no idea where you got the idea that somehow I am a paid or unpaid representative of the Obama campaign, or that I am under any obligation to explain any of the President’s actions to you or anyone else. I get exactly the same number of votes on election day that you do: ONE.

If you have appointed yourself the Supreme Finger of Blame, then uh…. good luck with that, I guess, but leave ME out of it, will you please? Thankyewsomuch!

findog

September 26th, 2011
2:14 pm

Bill, how about all those signs?
Drive north to Gwinnett County $68M and counting, you might notice a new bridge near the old Falcon’s complex.
Braselton is fixing their buggy era roads off of !-85 at GA53
If you live in DeKalb you might have noticed Memorial Drive

findog

September 26th, 2011
2:17 pm

GaBlue, old Bill suffers from that old, “there are none who cannot see for the blindness of their hate,” problem

Dacula 1995

September 26th, 2011
2:24 pm

findog….you think all of that is from Obama??? HAHAHA right!

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Larry L. Clifton

September 27th, 2011
11:07 pm

Cain, Paul, Bachmann, Gingrich and FairTax Johnson would bring personal freedom and economic success to our nation. The time of the ‘club member invertebrate’ (CMI) pretty-boy party fav is going out the window. The time of those same ‘players’ being able to ‘buy’ lifetime political careers is also on the way out. The time of the ‘good ole boy’ incumbent power moguls who think ‘we’ work for ‘them’ is OVER and that is way overdue. We have all seen clearly and more than ever before that the media are Left-leaning and/or Right-leaning. AND all their claims of un-biased, fair, balanced and un-spun input, throughput and output is, in fact, totally the OPPOSITE of those claims. It appears that they, like the Left/Right party power brokers, would love to be King-makers. Well… ‘We the People’ are, apparently, rocking their world in a very unsettling and unpredictable fashion. What a crying shame.We aren’t following their ‘prompter spewed’ instructions. Woops. We’re not believing their uninspiring messages or messengers. Bummer.That is where Cain, Paul, Bachmann, Gingrich and Johnson are coming into play. Surprise! Surprise! They are gaining steady and exponential political ‘traction’. All the concerted efforts to ‘dismiss and minimize’, these inspiring, honest, and steadfast patriots by the ‘CMIs’ and ‘media mouthpiece king-makers’ isn’t slowing down their growing popularity or inspiring messages. The obvious efforts to cast dispersions on them, consider them only ‘entertainment’ and relegate them to a ‘lower tier candidate status’ are FAILING! As it should be.‘We the People’ are learning that we don’t have to SETTLE for their ‘CMI’ bs…or the Perry and Romney Show they love so. Just say thanks but no thanks. Their failures and the failures of the old political system surround us all. The ‘CMIs’ from BOTH parties have ‘served’ us right into the poorhouse. 60+ years of very poor leadership and Congressional job performance have gotten us here. Banner headlines say it’s “Worst economy since the Great Depression”. Did we do that? Who did that? They did it. No THEY did it. The old ‘flim-flam’ blame game. Fan-friggin-tastic! Great job! The ‘CMIs’ from BOTH parties have proven over and over and over again that they are not up to the task of running our nation responsibly. Poor decisions and inept leadership has left us all with nearly 15 trillion in debt. AND there’s no sign of sanity, from those same delusional CMIs, in sight. They think it’s cool to raise the debt ceiling again and again and again. After all…it will keep their beloved ‘system’ up running. THEN they try to scare us w/spooky ‘OR ELSE if we don’t’ scenarios’…pure genius. Leadership at its best. Realize and understand…that IS their best. That’s all they’ve got. No wonder we’re in this mess. Should we laugh or cry?I guess what I’m saying here is we don’t have to fall for the same old same old. We must bring in/demand REAL leadership… ‘new blood’ and FORCE common sense and responsibility on the ‘CMIs’. Our voice must be united and very clear. Our message must be unequivocal.I’m crazy about Herman Cain. I truly believe Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Michelle Bachmann, Newt Gingrich and Gary Johnson are just the people we need for the job of running this Republic. Any and all would be a God-send for our great nation. We need these fine men and women to stick together and BE the winning ‘team’. As a team they will be an unstoppable force for FREEDOM. Whoever is at the top of the list will need the others to fill important roles and cabinet positions so the positive changes, we need so bad, can be enacted. Times a wastin’! Personal freedoms and an economic BOOM are needed now. These men and women (and the FairTax that Cain and Johnson love) can help us, help them, make it happen. Onward and upward America! Mr. Herman Cain is the MAN!