Nathan Deal asks for legislation to make the state a player in mass transit

Last week, the State Transportation Board ousted its third commissioner in four years.

Vance Smith, a former state lawmaker from Pine Mountain, was given his notice eight months after a frozen reaction to an ice storm that paralyzed much of the state for days — and handed newly sworn-in Gov. Nathan Deal an immediate crisis.

A glazed metro Atlanta wasn’t cited as a direct reason for Smith’s dismissal. Suffice it to say that one never gets a second chance to make a first impression on the new boss — especially if that boss is worried about breaking a hip.

On the eve of multimillion-dollar campaigns across the state, aimed at pushing through a sales tax for transportation, the idea of yet another executive search for someone to top Georgia’s road-and-bridge bureaucracy ought to have resulted in laundry baskets full of knotted underwear.

But those concerned with how Georgia moves were actually distracted by some very good, but very quiet news that probably escaped your attention.

At nearly the very hour that Smith was shown the door, the governor issued an innocuous little executive order, creating yet another task force. But just past the last “whereas” and the final “resolved” was the nugget that Deal had demanded a specific piece of legislation to be drawn up by the time the Legislature assembles in January.

At minimum, the governor ordered, the measure should designate “a state agency or authority with the responsibilities of oversight and coordination of transit services in the metro Atlanta region.”

Let us put this in diplomatic, Nixon-goes-to-China terms. A Republican governor has asked a GOP-controlled Legislature for a bill that would formally recognize the need for this state’s government to participate in a solution to metro Atlanta’s commuter hell. That same governor has named transit — as in “mass” — outside the current confines of Fulton and DeKalb counties as part of that solution.

At the state Capitol, it is possible to judge a topic’s importance by the unwillingness of its owners to discuss it. Neither Deal nor the two lawmakers assigned to lead the effort — state Rep. Donna Sheldon, R-Dacula, and state Sen. Jeff Mullis, R-Chickamauga — would step beyond the news release.

But if you consider that only two weeks ago, the Legislature rebuffed Deal’s effort to shift the date of next year’s sales tax vote from July to the more favorable ground of the November general election, then one thing becomes clear: Georgia’s new governor is surprisingly stubborn when it comes to advocating for the nuts and bolts of economic development.

Setting aside the Democratic efforts of Gov. Roy Barnes, the current push for state involvement in mass transit can be traced back five years or so to Sam Olens, when he was both chairman of the Cobb County Commission and the Atlanta Regional Commission.

The idea that he and others — Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin and Fulton County Commission Chairwoman Karen Handel included — came up with was a state agency, with local participation, that gave light oversight to existing transit systems.

“You could still have a MARTA, you could still have a [Cobb Community Transit], you could still have a Gwinnett Transit,” said Olens, now attorney general. “That would be a decision of the local governments.”

But all requests to the feds for cash or new technology would be made through the state. “What they inherently dislike is when local governments come to them with competing requests,” Olens said. By necessity, the state would become the big-picture planner of metro Atlanta transportation.

Olens’ successor as chairman of the Atlanta Regional Commission, Tad Leithead, was effusive in his praise for the governor and called legislation to create a state transit agency “the linchpin to the successful passage of the [sales tax] referendum.”

How’s that? First, there is the possibility that a state transit agency — however rudimentary — could serve as a good faith statement to Fulton and DeKalb counties, easing resentment over the penny sales tax that they’ve paid over the past four decades. With very little state help.

Also, 55 percent of the $6 billion or so that would be raised for transportation in metro Atlanta over 10 years would go to transit projects. One of the largest projects, a rail line to the Cumberland area of Cobb County, falls outside MARTA’s jurisdiction.

“It’s vital that we have a clear understanding of how a transit system will be governed,” Leithead said.

Over the past several weeks, as opposition to the transportation sales tax has cranked up, the discussion has begun to resemble the debate that metro Atlanta had decades ago, when mass transit and desegregation became one and the same issue.

We’ve had talk of “MARTA Republicans.” Cobb County Sheriff Neil Warren has warned of the increased crime that might accompany mass transit.

A state imprimatur on mass transit may help some voters over that lingering hurdle. “The debate we had in the ’60s and ’70s around MARTA has certainly not served the region well,” Leithead said — pointing out that it left metro Atlanta’s two most prosperous counties, Cobb and Gwinnett, drowning in a sea of single-occupancy vehicles.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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CobbCo

September 10th, 2011
11:33 am

“metro Atlanta’s two most prosperous counties, Cobb and Gwinnett, drowning in a sea of single-occupancy vehicles”

let’s see here, the argument by the Atlanta spokesman is based on:
more cars and no MARTA = prosperous county
more MARTA = less prosperous county and demand for more taxes from everyone else

Atlanta should let Cobb and Gwinnett make their own decisions and quit trying to make us pay for MARTA

Cobbcoisadolt

September 10th, 2011
11:44 am

Cobb and gwinnet’s success is result of white flight, not any economic policies or transit decisions. The next 20 years is going to be tough for these counties unless they realize the world is changing. Higher gas prices and increased transit times could strangle these communities. Kudos to the MARTA Republicans for showing foresight.

YeahRight

September 10th, 2011
11:50 am

No problem with the exurbs not paying for MARTA – just quit making the people in DeKalb and Fulton subsidize your choked roads and smooth rides to the airport.
We’re already giving your residents a ‘free ride’ on MARTA and our local streets, so how ’bout ponying up of that which you DO use. We’re tired of demands for widening our roads, just to support the chosen mode of transportation in other counties – we chose to have transit as an option, you can live (and choke) with no-option roads.

Michael Marr

September 10th, 2011
11:55 am

After his years in D.C. admiring Washington’s Metro I presume he’s no longer afraid of mass transit. It would be one helluva (socialist) jobs program to build out MARTA like the one in D.C. Also, despite the regular cronyism/corruption we can never rid from government, land purchases may still be overpriced but would still be less than blockbuster amounts it would have cost three years ago.

Sure, our Nixon will have to put up with some RINO insults from the goobers that elected him but maybe at the end of the day, he will pull off a Zell Miller and get the flag (mass transit) changed.

Keith

September 10th, 2011
11:57 am

Rail into Cobb? Toll lanes on I-75. I don’t want ant part of of it. This white boy is taking his flight to Blue Ridge or Blairsville.

YeahRight

September 10th, 2011
12:07 pm

Yeah, we need to keep off all those socialist roads, and airports – and drop that socialist school system, along with all those socialist state colleges. Let’s also drop those socialist garbage collectors, and refuse removal organizations. How about the socialist water and sewer authorities? Let’s remove those socialist stop lights and stop sign installations, and sidewalks… drop those socialist city tennis courts, parks, trails and football stadiums. Let’s not forget the socialist ports … and stadiums … and conference centers … etc. etc.
Maybe one should check what the true definition of ‘Socialist’ really is before saying a rail system is that… because such a rail system is far from socialist!
The corruption in land purchases is … oops … often due to free market pricing – sad, but true.

Lynn

September 10th, 2011
12:10 pm

Dear Cobb and Gwinnett Counties,

If you don’t want to pay for public transit, don’t. But do the rest of us a favor: stay out of Fulton and DeKalb Counties, and build your own airport on the North side of town. Oh, and stop coming to our baseball and football games intown. You’re so terrified of intown “crime”? Why in the world would you chance traveling into the Big City?

Aquagirl

September 10th, 2011
12:31 pm

This white boy is taking his flight to Blue Ridge or Blairsville.

As long as you stay there, Keith, fine. But you won’t. You’ll demand we build roads so you can drive back and forth through those same areas you fled. Frankly, my dear, we’re done subsidizing your welfare king lifestyle and your big, fat, farting SUV’s. Pay for it yourself, freeloader, and don’t let the door hit you in the bigoted @$$ on the way out.

YeahRight

September 10th, 2011
12:31 pm

Well said Lynn!
We’re tired of other counties building multi-laned roads to the Fulton/DeKalb county lines, and then complaining that we need to widen our streets to accommodate their shortsightedness.

WillieRae

September 10th, 2011
12:56 pm

I don’t need roads or trains to downtown. Traffics inside 285 is comparatively a walk in the park. Jobs are steadily moving out of the city central. Our transit needs are mostly OTP.

td

September 10th, 2011
1:00 pm

I think everyone on here has misread the intent of this committee. This is to see how the Republicans can take control of MARTA. We want Dems to have control and decision making authority over nothing in this state. After Marta then we will come after the airport and with all the whites moving back into Atlanta, Republicans will control it again in about 10 years.

StopPanderingToHippies

September 10th, 2011
1:12 pm

White flight away from Atlanta is a result of decades of black crime and black governmental incompetence, which is what Affirmative Action — appointing idiots who are unqualified — yields.
 
MARTA (Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta) is a joke, and smart people run from areas infected with it. Voters in outlying counties DO NOT WANT IT. Build the decades-delayed outer loop, widen via eminent domain existing highways, and provide tax incentives to large businesses that relocate jobs to Atlanta’s exurbs.
 
Let pandering, white-guilt, foul-smelling hippies drive their little government-subsidized, foreign-made deathtraps to a government-subsidized, crime-prone MARTA station in the confines of Atlanta. For them, it is psychologically calming, just like recycling: A feel-good exercise in busywork that is a complete waste of time and money.
 
The rest of us, who reject the collectivist propaganda they preach, will gladly zoom by them in our adult-size SUVs (the ones we can afford because we work in higher-paying jobs for which the give-me-a-handout hippies do not qualify).
 

DannyX

September 10th, 2011
1:30 pm

Why don’t you? Why don’t you stop pandering to the hippies? You are on your hippie liberal computer logged on to your hippie liberal internet gobbling up all that hippie culture. Great paying hippies driving their Pruis’ to those hippie jobs in Hippieland California.

Re-create your hippie utopia with conservative science, “pray for it” technology. Go ahead try it, log on to the heavens highway, I hear its a bunch of invisible tubes.

There is a sickness in GA

September 10th, 2011
1:33 pm

@StopPanderingToHippies You use government-subsidized “adult-size SUVs” on the government-subsidized roads? Move to Cuba you Commie loving socialist!

Also, providing tax incentives, i.e. government-subsidies, for large businesses to relocate jobs to anywhere isn’t exactly what Adam Smith had in mind with his “invisible-hand.”

Centrist

September 10th, 2011
1:53 pm

This is more of an indictment/ no confidence move against MARTA management than anything else.

DannyX

September 10th, 2011
1:58 pm

“…will gladly zoom by them in our adult-size SUVs…”

I picture you as the stereotypical “Adult sized”-Chaz Bono look-a-like- SUV (with Georgia Bulldogs plastered everywhere) driver.

Its like Chaz said, “Make me look like a male Georgia Bulldogs fan.” Strange. I could definitely picture Chaz wearing a Bulldogs cap while driving a huge SUV, Woof.

james j. andrews

September 10th, 2011
2:28 pm

Keith, Blue Ridge and Blairsville are populated by what the few remaining locals call halfbacks – they are know-it-all, malcontented yankees, who moved to Florida, where they had to compete with too many other know-it-all, malcontented yankees, so they moved half the way back. Have fun.

Polky Dots

September 10th, 2011
2:40 pm

Finally some progress with mass transit! Thank you Governor Deal!!! Don’t let the old Cobb County fuddy duddies slow this down. Widening roads is not the solution, and the idea that criminals will ride the train and go back home with a bag of loot is beyond stupid. Traffic is really bad and we need some logical solutions irregardless of Cobb County prejudice.

cyril

September 10th, 2011
2:41 pm

Td @ 1pm
You are so wrong about that statement it isn’t even funny. I’m so tired of the uneducated comments on these boards by folks. If you look at the facts, staff from MARTA have actually been involved for a number of years in trying to assist in the development of a truly regional transit agency. Don’t believe me either,then take a look at the Regional Transit Institutional Analysis Study or google the Transit Planning Board, Transit Implementation Board, or Regional Transit Committee.

mhicks

September 10th, 2011
2:52 pm

“Stop Pandering” – “The rest of us, who reject the collectivist propaganda they preach, will gladly zoom by them in our adult-size SUVs (the ones we can afford because we work in higher-paying jobs for which the give-me-a-handout hippies do not qualify).”

But you ARE taking that hand-out… And your taking more than your fair. Thank highway that your over-sized SUV would be worthless without is nearly completely subsidized. Yeah, yeah, I know, you pay a user fee thru the motor-fuels tax, but thanks to the succesful back-room deals, the car manufacturers and big oil were allowed to set that up so that the funding mechanism designed pay for the Interstate Highway System, the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 had become completely ineffective since the early 1970… Of course, that only applies to Federal highways… The vast majority of the roads and bridges that your SUV (Remind me; what does the “S” and the “U” stands for again?) are still completely SOCIALIST… But, if you actually had to pay the “FREE MARKET” cost in “user fees” that would actually be required to build and properly maintain the roads for the wear-and-tear that your overweight “adult-size” SUV inflicts on them; I am sure that your oversize ass would be on BUS every day…

mhicks

September 10th, 2011
2:54 pm

Sorry to everyone else for my typos in my last post…

kaycee

September 10th, 2011
3:01 pm

Finally, finally, finally. The brain freeze is over. 40 years late, but better late than neve.

eaglenationrising

September 10th, 2011
3:01 pm

Kudos to Governor Nathan Deal for showing some leadership and vision for our state. We have to identify ways to make metropolitan Atlanta attractive in the global marketplace. We are not simply competing against Birmingham, AL, Columbia, SC and Jackson, MS anymore. We have to present a stage to compete against global cities like Beijing, Berlin, Dubai, Sydney, New York City, Dallas, Houston, Sao Paulo, Zurich, Cape Town, etc. Frankly, we are not doing an effective job at it and our employment numbers reflect it. Atlanta has the sixth worst jobs market among all US major cities. Part of the reported problem was that Atlanta attracted too many highly educated people and there are not jobs for those educated people. When we read some of the comments, I sadly understand why major companies, advisory firms, valuation groups, and global companies stay away. Some people here are very short-sighted. Enjoy your small world because change is here!

james j. andrews

September 10th, 2011
3:59 pm

eagle says…

“We have to present a stage to compete against global cities like Beijing, Berlin, Dubai, Sydney, New York City, Dallas, Houston, Sao Paulo, Zurich, Cape Town, etc.”

That is precisely why you will be purchasing first class airfare, and 5 star accomodations for “Shady” and his entourage, including family members, of course, to tour all of the afore mentioned places, including the etc’s. – a pretty good gig for a someone who was virtually insolvent a few months ago.

Cherokee

September 10th, 2011
4:02 pm

“Rail into Cobb? Toll lanes on I-75. I don’t want ant part of of it. This white boy is taking his flight to Blue Ridge or Blairsville.”

Good. Godspeed. It’ll free up some space between here and the city for me.

Ole Guy

September 10th, 2011
4:04 pm

With all respect to Sheriff Warren’s office, his remarks on equating mass transit to an influx of the criminal mentality is precisely why this entire debate is even taking place now, when it should have been over and done with way way back. Of all the “world class cities” (which ATL’s city mothers have been, over the years, so adept at crowing over) within the Red White and Blue, Atlanta is, without a doubt, the only metro area which has, until recent years, been without anything resembling mass transit. Other metro areas…which seem not to have to resort to “blowing the political horn” in order to self-label themselves as “world class, have, somehow, dealt with the issue of crime within the city borders…and they, somehow, have managed to achieve some form of world acclaim.

Comments, such as those of Sheriff Warren, only serve to remind one that Atlanta, despite all the glitz n’ glammor, will always be just another hick town which keeps the streets unrolled, and the coke machines pluged in, all night.

YeahPleaseObama!

September 10th, 2011
4:18 pm

Get rid of all the socialism.

Then finish the job by getting rid of all the crony capitalism e.g LIKE CORRUPT DEALS INVOLVING SOLAR COMPANIES OWNED BY YOUR CRONY POLITICAL CONTRIBUTORS THAT RECEIVED BILLIONS OF BORROWED TAXPAYER PORKULUS DOLLARS TO PAY FOR GREEN JOBS NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE WHEN THEY GO BANKRUPT!

Cobbian

September 10th, 2011
4:19 pm

“It’s vital that we have a clear understanding of how a transit system will be governed,” Leithead said.

It isn’t just about who is in charge. The proposed light rail line will run for one mile in Cobb County with one station in Cobb County and the rest of the way in Fulton County/City of Atlanta. Yet, the entire cost of the line is coming out of the money allocated to Cobb County. That is one issue.

Another issue is that there is no overall transit (light or heavy rail) planning going on. Or if there is, no one is telling us. From what we in Cobb can see, this line – which takes about 70-80% of the TSPLOST funds that Cobb will get – will take 10 years to build and service one place in Cobb – the Cumberland area. There is some talk that the idea is to extend this line in the next TSPLOST – 10 years down the road for 10 more years – so the line can then run north to Kennesaw or Acworth. So, we are looking at 10-20 years of building which serves one corridor in Cobb County – basically Cobb Parkway. That limited utility to Cobb for the first 10 years and everything along one corridor – is another thing that gets my goat.

Third, there was a Cobb County Comprehensive Transportation Plan in 2008 that also was built on the idea of light rail between Cumberland and Acworth (this Cobb Parkway corridor) with connectivity to Perimeter, to tie this system into MARTA. We aren’t hearing anything about that connection to Perimeter as an alternative idea, if it would be cheaper, etc. There is another study that is supposed to be completed in 18 months that is intended to focus on alternative transportation options in this corridor. If we vote for light rail now, what is the point of the study? The whole point of all of this is we don’t know enough now.

Finally, I believe we are being lead by the nose by CID’s and the Chamber of Commerce. The focus is on economic development in certain areas of the County rather than transportation needs of the entire County.

YeahPleaseObama!

September 10th, 2011
4:36 pm

Atlanta should let Cobb and Gwinnett make their own decisions and quit trying to make us pay for MARTA.

Right On!

TruthBe

September 10th, 2011
4:43 pm

Vote NO on new tax increases. No more new taxes or tax increases for any reason period. Cut spending and waste. Live within your means and keep your budgets. Cut salaries of the government unions and their leadership. Cut salaries and wasteful travel for all government employees. Cut the government entirements for all of these Mayors, Senators, Congressmen, City County State Commissioners, and the President, Staff, Czars, and his Wife. SHINK THE SIZE OF ALL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES CITY,COUNTY,STATE,AND FEDERAL.

TruthBe

September 10th, 2011
4:51 pm

Lynn

September 10th, 2011
12:10 pm
Dear Cobb and Gwinnett Counties,

If you don’t want to pay for public transit, don’t. But do the rest of us a favor: stay out of Fulton and DeKalb Counties, and build your own airport on the North side of town. Oh, and stop coming to our baseball and football games intown. You’re so terrified of intown “crime”? Why in the world would you chance traveling into the Big City?
Hey Lynn, Gwinnett and Cobb County helped pay for the Highways thru Atlanta and the Airport with their taxes just like other Countries thru-out Georgia. And the Faclons are baised out of Gwinnett County. Also if you would control you Black Crime Problem just maybe more White Folks wouldn’t mind comming back to Fulton and Dekalb Countries.

Randolph Phillips

September 10th, 2011
4:54 pm

I was a member of the Georgia House of Representatives and voted to create MARTA. It was and is a local transportation system, designed to serve and belong to the local governments which join it. So far, only two counties–Fulton and DeKalb–have seen fit to join MARTA.

In 1998, the Metro Atlanta Chamber of Commerce developed two initiatives to insure the continued fast growth of Atlanta. One was a water initiative for Atlanta to take over Georgia’s water resources to insure that growth. The other was for the State to take over MARTA and for the people of Georgia to become responsible for Atlanta’s local transportation system. Roy Barnes was elected Governor that year, and in 1999 immediately set to work to enact both proposals. The Georgia Regional Transportation Authority was meant to take over MARTA, and a State Water Board was to take over the state’s water. Governor Barnes was defeated before either plan could be fully implemented, but after some delay, legislation to allocate water resources was finally enacted late in Governor Perdue’s administation.

Now, the plan for the State takeover of MARTA, along with its operating costs, begins to take shape in Governor Deal’s proposed legislation. It should not pass.

MARTA should continue to be Atlanta’s locally owned and operated transportation system. The state should not take on any administative, ownership, or expanison of MARTA, either directly or indirectly. The legislature is supposed to defend Georgia and the taxpayers, not fund grand schemes of the Metro Chamber.

Alabama Communist

September 10th, 2011
5:36 pm

More Breaking News On Moving Crime Fast To Cobb County……A unnamed source within the State Republican Party said “the Cobb Sheriff was wrong about Criminals from Fulton County fleeing to Cobb County and raising the Crime Rate..What the Sheriff does not understand is this is a classic example of Free Markets at work and driving down the unemployment rate in Cobb, since most Republicans in Cobb are out of work and it would be great if the Sheriff hires them to keep the Criminals from making too much money on the Black Market..Its a win win program for free enterprise and trade and law and order…..

cs

September 10th, 2011
6:19 pm

“There is some talk that the idea is to extend this line in the next TSPLOST – 10 years down the road for 10 more years – so the line can then run north to Kennesaw or Acworth.”

yep, the beginning of a new “its just a penny forever tax”

nga

September 10th, 2011
6:24 pm

I don’t think you have to worry about any of above.Who is going to pay for all this?Think China,snd rest are tired supporting us.Our congress rather shutdown country than give Obama a chance to improve.Now I know he had majority dems.he has spent trillions.Now not yesterday.Had you been worried about yesterday you would have reined in Bush.Give me Obama defeat or give me starvation,riots burning.

Statewide Transportation Authority!!!!!

September 10th, 2011
6:25 pm

Why don’t we have one entity that provides governance for Hartsfield Jackson, MARTA and other transportation entities? There would be enough revenue to fund all transportation initiatives statewide. NO NEW TAXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How much does HJIA net yearly???

Corey

September 10th, 2011
6:57 pm

Progress and change are constant. Try as they may the forces against change and progress will forever come down on the wrong side of history. Thought slavery would last forever and tried to keep it in place with all their might and lost. Tried to keep women from voting and lost. Tried to keep women from decision making authority and lost. Tried to keep people alcohol free and lost. Tried to keep southern blacks from the ballot box and lost. Tried to define gays as walking sex acts and lost. Tried to keep gays in the closet and lost. Tried to keep southern blacks in their place and lost. Tried to keep workers from having the power to collectively bargain and lost. Tried to keep a man with a foreign sounding name and a man of color out of the White House and lost. Latched onto a conservative mindset and are furiously implementing all manner of scheming at the sate level thinking they are winning but will ultimately lose. Those silly, silly people.

Alex

September 10th, 2011
7:20 pm

This state cannot be serious about transportation when they allow that idiot Gena Evans to continue running the State Road and Tollway Authority….the mastermind and group about to piss off commuters with HOT lanes.

honested

September 10th, 2011
7:25 pm

A page of posts that confirms sonny crafted yet another unworkable, guaranteed to fail ‘regional transportation splost’ proposal that failed to address the real, pressing need for State Funded mass transit.

In the meantime, he has been hard at work laying the plans to dig a hugely expensive entirely un-needed ditch up to Savannah Harbor to keep the trucks in his new trucking company full every day.

He knew the hicks out in the ‘villles’ would never use good sense, because most of them ran away from the Economic Engine of the State because they lacked good sense. They will follow lock step to the orders given them by the ToolsEnablingAristocrats and it’s republican overseers, and vote against a sensible tax increase and a solid future. Soon we will be just another Birmingham. By then we will have our own set of dixiecrat/republicans under indictment for corruption, just like Birmingham. Only they will no longer be able to blame democrats or the Civilized People ITP.

YeahPleaseObama!

September 10th, 2011
9:35 pm

Stop crying because the republicans don’t leap when you say jump or open wide when these corrupt elitists democrats say swallow one more of your doomed socialist big government pork plans that shouldn’t pass on a dictator’s demands.

james j. andrews

September 10th, 2011
9:44 pm

The accuracy of Isackson’s labeling of his constituency as the “unwashed” becomes clearer with every post…

Madison

September 10th, 2011
10:04 pm

To what extent is automobile use a “free” good? According to Hart and Spivak, government subsidies for highways and parking alone amount to between 8 and 10 percent of our gross national product, the equivalent of a fuel tax of approximately $3.50 per gallon. If this tax were to account for “soft” costs such as pollution cleanup and emergency medical treatment, it would he as high as $9.00 per galion. The cost of these subsidies-approximately $5,000 per car per year-is passed directly on to the American citizen in the form of increased prices for products or, more often, as income, property, and sales taxes. This means that the hidden costs of driving are paid by everyone: not just drivers, but also those too old or too poor to drive a car. And these people suffer doubly, as the very transit systems they count on for mobility have gone out of business, unable to compete with the heavily subsidized highways. “Elephant in the Bedroom, Spivak”

nga

September 10th, 2011
10:37 pm

Time will tell.

YeahPleaseObama!

September 10th, 2011
10:44 pm

No more “useful idiots”.

vuduchld

September 10th, 2011
11:07 pm

ROFLAMO. I would not give you monkeys in Jawja guvmint one penny for anything resembling your transportation ponzi scheme solution. The Feds should treat the state like it has leporsy when it comes to giving it transportation dollars for transit. You idiots don’t have a clue as to what you want and the last thing our nation needs is doling out any more road cash to you. I say let Jawja Teabeggers fund the state transportation system with their conservafraud principles.

nga

September 11th, 2011
1:40 am

YeahPleaseObama return corn to a food for humans and animals.In place of fuel supplement,costing more to produce than fuel it replaces.Yeahpleaseobama give us heathcare like Bush gave us drug coverage.YPO help Georgia since you have so much to lose here.YPO do not lose money in Lybia like Jr Bush lost in Iraq,never accountrd for.Please Mr President fight all wars possible like Lybia,No American lives lost.

Itsmeagain

September 11th, 2011
2:17 am

@cobbian
I’ll stop where you say “Cobb counties share of the funds”. There is no specific share between counties. Your statement says to me that you haven’t actually researched any of what you’re talking about

Smoke

September 11th, 2011
2:52 am

Everything wrong is not the fault of liberals or African Americans. Many times to find the problem, Dixiecrats need only to look in the mirror.

Smoke

September 11th, 2011
3:00 am

Most of the people who harvest, prepare and serve Dixiecrats’ food, clean up after you, and make the products you use, depend on public transportation and have no health insurance. Forget so-called socialist thought, Dixiecrats’ paradise is to return to the 14th century when there was truly limited central government and total free enterprise for the elite.

Bobby

September 11th, 2011
6:26 am

I’ve always thought we should set up toll booths at the Gwinnett and Cobb County boundaries that enter Dekalb and Fulton and charge any residents without a Fulton/Dekalb address a toll for driving on our roads since they don’t want to fund public transit. And now those same counties come to Fulton/Dekalb residents wanting us to tax ourselves an additional 1 cent sales tax to help them? I don’t think so.