Herman Cain edges out Ron Paul in Georgia GOP straw poll

This is great news for Ron Paul considering Cain is from GA and has been getting a huge push from local radio host like Villain Neal Boortz.

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I was there and have to say Cain’s supporters sounded like church mice compared to Paul’s. Almost seemed fishy…

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Romney is only the frontrunner in the same sense that Oxendine was the “frontrunner” for governor last year. I expect Romney will lead in the polls for a few more months because of name recognition, but will end up as a non-factor in the long haul.

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I was also at the straw poll and it amazing that Cain only won by 3 votes considering he had people transported there by bus loads to vote for him and the talk show radio host have been pushing for people to come out and Vote for Cain. Considering his buses, local media push, and his home turf I expected him to win by a large margin. But aside from that it was obvious that Ron Paul’s supporters were there as his buzz was by far the largest this Ron Paul rEVOLution is getting stronger and stronger and it wont be long until the media stops calling Romney the front runner and start to embrace the best choice for our Country Ron Paul 2012!!!

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Martin:

What is Ron Paul’s attitude toward enforcing immigration laws and securing our borders?

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Christopher:

What are Ron Paul’s plans with regards to the entitlement programs now in existance?

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@ Jessica this is from his official website http://www.ronpaul2012.com for his views on National Defense:

PROVEN LEADERSHIP

“Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.” – Ronald Reagan
A PRO-AMERICA FOREIGN POLICY

As an Air Force veteran, Ron Paul believes national defense is the single most important responsibility the Constitution entrusts to the federal government.

In Congress, Ron Paul voted to authorize military force to hunt down Osama bin Laden and authored legislation to specifically target terrorist leaders and bring them to justice.

Today, however, hundreds of thousands of our fighting men and women have been stretched thin all across the globe in over 135 countries – often without a clear mission, any sense of what defines victory, or the knowledge of when they’ll be permanently reunited with their families.

Acting as the world’s policeman and nation-building weakens our country, puts our troops in harm’s way, and sends precious resources to other nations in the midst of an historic economic crisis.

Taxpayers are forced to spend billions of dollars each year to protect the borders of other countries, while Washington refuses to deal with our own border security needs.

Congress has been rendered virtually irrelevant in foreign policy decisions and regularly cedes authority to an executive branch that refuses to be held accountable for its actions.

Far from defeating the enemy, our current policies provide incentive for more to take up arms against us.

That’s why, as Commander-in-Chief, Dr. Paul will lead the fight to:

* Make securing our borders the top national security priority.

* Avoid long and expensive land wars that bankrupt our country by using constitutional means to capture or kill terrorist leaders who helped attack the U.S. and continue to plot further attacks.

* Guarantee our intelligence community’s efforts are directed toward legitimate threats and not spying on innocent Americans through unconstitutional power grabs like the Patriot Act.

* End the nation-building that is draining troop morale, increasing our debt, and sacrificing lives with no end in sight.

* Follow the Constitution by asking Congress to declare war before one is waged.

* Only send our military into conflict with a clear mission and all the tools they need to complete the job – and then bring them home.

* Ensure our veterans receive the care, benefits, and honors they have earned when they return.

* Revitalize the military for the 21st century by eliminating waste in a trillion-dollar military budget.

* Prevent the TSA from forcing Americans to either be groped or ogled just to travel on an airplane and ultimately abolish the unconstitutional agency.

* Stop taking money from the middle class and the poor to give to rich dictators through foreign aid.

As President, Ron Paul’s national defense policy will ensure that the greatest nation in human history is strong, secure, and respected.

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Sounds like some old fashioned “Bradley effect” going on.

Herman bused all them people in, but they couldn’t do it, when it finally came time cast their ballot they just couldn’t vote for a black man.

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Ben:

Thank you. Do you know what his plans are for the illegal immigrants who are here already and siphoning the government? Also, what about the entitlement programs that further deplete the treasury?

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Dammit all. I know three Ron Paul supporters who should have been there but weren’t.

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I LOVE Herman Cain! Go Herman!

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Give Ron Paul some props. They bought 140 tickets… Can we say pay to play???? 25 people BOUGHT a bus ticket from Atlanta to go to the event. Cain’s votes were legitimate votes.

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C’mon, when hasn’t a black dude been the hit of a fish fry, especially if he’s doing the frying.

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A Georgian tradition carried on….

GA can’t even pick the candidate who will finish second in the General Election!

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Herman Cain is a preachy buffoon who broadcasts his ignorance of basic history, national and world affairs every time he opens his mouth. But, I guess is he is less scary that bats**t crazy Michele Bachmann.

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Eric:

“Why dont you look it up yourself?”

Maybe because I’m curious as to whether a candidate’s supporters knows where he stands on the issues? The election of 2008 proved that most of them didn’t.

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First, I wonder if this is helping southern conservatives get their taxpayers’ monies worth for George Perdue’s “Go Fishing?” Second, according to southern conservative values, Cain is not a buffoon. He had a trust fund, is from the south, is a Baptist, has run a business, and does not rely on anything the intellectual elite has to say Finally, I would say them Texans brought in the buses their ancestors used to fire bomb…Cain’s had his folks use MARTA.

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Do you people want real freedom and the right to be accountable for one’s self or do you want the govt to hold all your rights just to take them away? Ron Paul would end the debt by abolishing the federal reserve. It is their debt, the notes say federal reserve on them. Bentley are you really that dumb as to think killing bin laden(if you believe that) illegally helped anything. Cain is a federal reserve and big bank puppet.

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Too bad George W. Bush can’t run again.

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Ron Paul willl never be president.I like some of his ideas just don’t think a 76 yr.old need be president.

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Yet another reason I’m glad I got the F’ out of Georgia!

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double:

I can’t believe it! You are discriminating against older folks?

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Why is their always something rude and disrespectful about a significant portion of the Ron Paul crowd? I saw it at the Iowa Straw Poll when Herman Cain was holding court outside his bus and a bunch of Ron Paul supporters holding signs marched right past being as loud and disruptive as they could? Such classless behavior, I am proud and happy to say, I have never observed from the Herman Cain folks.

Mr Cain is a true leader who projects confidence much as Ronald Reagan except this man is much better educated and more intelligent. There is a reason why Herman Cain’s speech late into the Iowa Straw Poll (3pm) swayed so many who heard it, even to the point of many folks expressing remorse over having already voted for someone else. Plus Herman Cain is the only candidate who can shut down the left’s playing of the race card and class envy crap. Go Herman Cain!

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well, this isn’t really “bloggin” but I do comment here sometimes. Cain is great if you don’t want anything to change at all. Oh except maybe we’ll get a VAT in addition to our income tax- that won’t go away under Cain, quit dreaming.

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No discrimination Lms I just know our minds don’t function like in days gone by.

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17,000 voted in Iowa and 890 in Georgia. What a joke.

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LMS I’m confused:

1. RP supporters should abandon him because of his poll performance? BUT its ok for you to support Cain?
2. You keep demanding each RP supporter essentially post a dissertation on the man’s entire platform, but I’ve not seen you do the same for Cain.

I’m not going to attack Cain as I’m not that familiar with him. I have read about his private sector success which is impressive. I’m not sure that necessarily translates into an understanding of macroeconomics, especially on the level of RP. But here’s my biggest problem with Cain: Even if he is incredibly smart and has the absolute best of intentions, he doesn’t know how Washington works. The man would get steamrolled the second he hit the oval office. If Cain is as good as you say, I’d honestly then like to see him in a roll such as being on RP’s staff. I’d hate to see a good man get elected and then get destroyed by the establishment.

You are also overlooking perhaps the single most important aspect of Ron Paul. It’s the saying, “Dr. Paul cured my political apathy.” He has the capacity to wake up an entire generation and actually get them to believe in the power of democracy again.

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I congratulate Herman Cain and his supporters for the straw-poll win, you know one of the reasons going to these things is to not only show support for your candidate but to have fun, hope y’all had fun.

@Last Man Standing
What are Mr. Paul’s plans for dealing with the national debt ($14.7 trillion and rising)?

He would erase the 1.6 trillion that is on the Fed’s books, debt that was created out of thin air, that would give us a year to get our ‘house’ in order. One of the main things is to decrease the military bases around the world, South Korea is a rich country so is Germany they can afford their own security, don’t you think? That would save billions if not trillions. Also, Ron Paul has a just war foreign policy, so he would go to war if attacked and declared by Congress, none of these preemptive wars of aggression, that also cost billions of $.

. Do you know what his plans are for the illegal immigrants who are here already and siphoning the government? Also, what about the entitlement programs that further deplete the treasury?

As Ron Paul has stated there are too many illegals here to ship them back, I mean talk about police state, what are you going to do raid millions of homes here in America and ask people for their papers? That isn’t going to happen. Ron Paul has stated he would end their objective for coming here, that would mean if you are an illegal and you have a kiddo here your child doesn’t automatically get citizenship like they do now. Anyway I think Ron Paul’s answer to helping illegals would be for the churches to get involved. You know this country has a long history of charity and the churches were the forefront of many organizations like colleges and hospitals. In fact, Ron Paul said when he worked at a charity hospital they never turned down anyone and he made as a doctor around $3.00 an hour. I realize that sort of ‘old America’ is gone but that doesn’t mean we can’t return to our charitable roots as a nation.

Regarding the entitlement programs he has stated that he would take care of the people that are currently involved in these programs but allow for the younger people to opt out since ss and medicare are going to be available for them when they hit retirement.

What is Ron Paul’s attitude toward enforcing immigration laws and securing our borders?

I think the answer to Ron Paul’s attitude toward enforcing immigration has been answered. In regard to securing our borders he would utilize all those military personnel that have returned home from guarding the borders of Afghanistan and Pakistan to secure our borders. Just think as a military family how wonderful for families to have their moms, dads, uncles, aunts, brothers and sisters defending our borders.

Ron Paul is someone that I would be very proud to call my president, the man has incorruptible integrity, always tells the truth and takes his oath to the Constitution seriously.

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Obviously, Ron Paul is the only one offering real solutions to our problems. Everything stems from the corrupt influences of the central bankers in the fed. We are no longer a government by, for, and of the people. Politicians no longer respect the people’s opinion. Don’t you think it odd that the Congress approval rating is so low, yet it doesn’t reflect itself in the elections. If it did we would throw out 80 to 90% of them each election cycle. Is it any wonder that incumbents raise many times what challengers do….hmm…..let’s put on our thinking caps shall we? The bankers are filthy rich and incumbents get the money. Is there a connection here?

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He’s got my vote, too
Ron Paul 2012

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Cain??? really, this guy is a joke and they want to say Ron Paul isn’t electable. Sorry Cain supporters this clown hasn’t got a chance. Type “google trends” in your search engine, then in google trends type in “Ron Paul, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney” separated with commas as I did. We will leave out that Michelle lady, as she is a bigger joke than Cain. Now hit search and see who’s name is searched for on the internet more than anyone else. That is a true popularity poll.

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I will support and vote for Herman Cain because I believe him to be the best choice we have. Having followed the Iowa bus tour and hearing most of his speeches was enough for me. I agree with the Paul folks that the Fed can be troublesome but it can also work as intended and is not the central cause of all our problems. Its simple elimination would not usher in an era without problems. I am convinced the Paul folks make too much of it.

What I am convinced of is a Black Conservative’s ability especially in the wake of Barack Obama to Unite our nation on many levels that no other candidate could. If Ron Paul is the nominee I could and would support him. My much bigger problem would be a Huntsman or Romney.

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I’ll address this to Stephen and then be done. Promoting your candidate by tearing down others is cheap and says more about You! How do you expect anyone to pay attention to what you think is right about Ron Paul as you exhibit such classless beahvior? I respect Ron Paul and all the candidates. I simply cannot hold Mr Paul up as my first choice. You really could use some manners.

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Mila:

Thank you for answering those questions for me. At least, I feel I understand his position much better. The only thing I need clarification (or amplification) on is where he stands with regard to the entitlement programs such as ADC, food stamps, farm subsidies, etc.

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FreeMktMonkey – The FED is the main problem with this country, many early US presidents have sought to rid us of central banking since the founding of our country. As long as private bankers pull the lever on the money printing presses, they control everything. President Woodrow Wilson himself said this after he allowed the FED to take over our economy. “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country.
A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit.
Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation,
therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.
We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely
controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world.
No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by
conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by
the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” – Woodrow Wilson.

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double:

I think you manage to hold your own very well.

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My vote went to Rick Perry because he has been preordained as the winner. No, not from God. Because he was a cheerleader. You want your boy to be a Republican president one day? Make sure your boy becomes a cheerleader.

Eisenhower was a cheerleader, so was Reagan and of course so was George W Bush. This is bigger than the Masons.

Give me a P…give me an E… give me double R’s…give me a Y…

Go Perry Go. Fight fight fight! GO USA! Go male cheerleaders!

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I’ll answer two questions in one Last Man Standing. I believe securing OUR borders in a priority in a Paul administration. He believes our resources have been wasted patrolling the streets and protecting the borders of foreign nations when the situation here has become increasingly more problematic.

As far as national defense, he would first go through the military budget and eliminate waste (maybe he would implement an investigation into missing funds to find out where billions have disappeared), embolden a national HOME defense rather than spread our troops all across the globe, FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION, direct much attention to veteran care, benefits, and bestow all honors on their service to this nation. These would be initial actions.

Dealing with the debt? First, he would liquidate malinvestments instead of propping them up, stop bailing out those who made them, of course, his main platform audit the Federal Reserve, work towards bringing back sound and legal money as directed by our Constitution, eliminate the Federal Income tax which, during Ronald Reagan’s term in office was investigated by the Grace Commission as being used almost entirely to service the INTEREST ONLY on the national debt.

There is much more but I think those are key elements of his platform.

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Stephen– I was to be gone and will as soon as I say that I thank you for your respectful response that I hope you will carry forward. But no I do not buy everything you say. A return to the gold standard even under the Fed would correct much of our ills. Blame Richard Nixon.

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The only goal for Herman Cain is to win. He is confident in his beliefs and instills that confidence in others as few I have seen. It is Every candidates goal in the end to take votes from Each of the others. Unless under a system where voters can vote more than once this is the only way the one who does win wins. Promote what you feel is right about the candidate you support and respect each individuals right to make their own choice. Let’s all respect the process each other and ourselves. We are all Americans!

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Georgia Peach:

Thanks for the response.

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And please…………NEVER hit Submit Comment when you have not submitted a comment!!! That really looks Stupid!

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Will,

True words! Spend every penny you have to support those riding in the republican clown car so when they lose their base will be exhausted.

81 comments and mostly nonsense. On the first Wednesday of November 2012, none of the people on the ’straw poll’ list will be elected president. No matter how many are seeking a magical exoneration from the 2001-2008 policies that dug the giant hole and no matter how hard the tea-whatevers try to keep everyone else away from the shovels to clean it up, the majority of the Public isn’t buying it.

Carry on with the foolishness of ‘gold standard’, ‘eliminate the fed’, ‘fair tax’ whatever no chance option you prefer, it ain’t happening in this country.

And President Obama will have an additional chance to finally look Left and finish restoring this Country to greatness.

Also, I am convinced that LMS must get paid by the character.

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honested – With all do respect, the only thing we all know and agree is that Obama had his swings, he struck out miserably. He will be replaced, most likely by a republican and possibly with a democrat, but he’s for sure a one term president. I pretty sure our republic couldn’t handle another 4 yrs of Obama adopting and expanding Mr. Bushes ill conceived policies.

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@Last Man Standing

I appreciate your willingness to ask questions and your thoughtful responses. This respectful exchange of ideas is what an informed and educated electorate ought to do.

To answer or rather clarify Ron Paul’s position on food stamps, welfare and farm subsidies. There are many different angles to look at this from. I have studied Ron Paul’s view on taxes from many different sources, one source that I have recently read is from his latest book, ‘Liberty Defined’, there is a chapter entirely devoted to the subject. Since taxes are the means by which the government takes from one group to give to another group I believe that Chapter would most suit your inquiries.
“The greater the government taxes, the greater the need, since government management is inferior to individual management and the money is always misallocated.” “Depending on government to take care of us sharply diminishes any desire for assuming responsibility for oneself. Government spending is unwise…The only people who benefit are the politicians, bureaucrats, and the special interest recipients of government spending programs.” Ron Paul

I recommend reading the whole chapter but those few sentences show that taxing of one group to give to another destroys production in the private sector. Also, subsidizing anything you get more of it. For example farm subsidies, the government gives money to corn farmers, so now there are more corn farmers. Try that with anything the government subsidizes you’ll get the same result.

Also, with foodstamps/SNAP, ask yourself who profits from those debit cards being issued, google it, you’ll be surprised. It is JP Morgan bank, they make tons of money issuing the debit cards to the food stamp program, interesting isn’t it? That is the point Ron Paul is making all those entitlements seem like they help the people but in actuality the banks and special interests make huge profits at the expense of struggling Americans.

Hope that helps.

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RON PAUL is the man we listen to, because he listens to US, not the UN.

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RON PAUL we’re with you sir

CMON ITS OUR TIME – Lets do this!

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Wow, Ron Paul lost by less than 1% even in Cains home state? – Dr. Paul really has become the clear front-runner!

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The point of whether Ron would have got Osama is stupid. Ron would not have had to get Osama. He would have pulled our boys out of that country and saved many American’s lives AS WELL as making the people of that country happy that we GOT THE HELL OUT of their SOVEREIGN nation and took our noses OUT of their business! As far as how old he is, he’s still fitter than many candidates almost half his age AND he has more experience and knowledge than all of them put together. As far as economics, why would anyone believe ANY of those idiot politicians who say one thing and vote another. They are lying about their voting records and you people don’t seem to care. YOU CAN’T FIND ANY inconsistencies in RON’S voting record. TRY IT. I dare you. I guess if you like America having a dollar that’s worth nothing because of our politicians insatiable greed and hunger as well as all of our basic freedoms protected by the Constitution being ripped away from us, please do vote for the evil regime: Just make sure to SMILE real big when your masters collar you and order you to lick their boots. Imbeciles.

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yeah Mitt Romney, is not the frontrunner but he plays one on TV. Vote Ron Paul 2012

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The old guard GOP military industrial complex will never let Dr Paul represent them. A DOD based on national defense and not national offense, what we had from before we were a nation until WWII, does not offer their “jobs” programs that both party’e have constantly expanded based on weapons development pumping that we continue to prime…

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Well legislatively, he’s voted AGAINST all the stupid laws that the others have created that are UNCONSTITUTIONAL for many, many years! They call him Dr. NO because he votes against all the laws they having been creating where the elected officials enjoy benefits we do not, where there are laws that WE are subject to that THEY are not, for any power that the Constitution does not specifically allow for. HIS legislation would be to UNDO all the unconstitutional crap that’s been created in the last 40 to 50 years. Understand the Constitution. Understand the founding fathers philosophy that government is a necessary evil at BEST and that it should be extremely and severely LIMITED in scope. THEN you will understand WHY he says what he does. Asking what legislation he has championed is parroting the media because that is insinuating that in order to be a GOOD representative of the people, you need to MAKE LAWS all the time. That’s the messed up state of our mentality. Laws should only be created if absolutely necessary. REGULATION is not the natural STATE of things. If you REALLY want to know why Ron IS accomplished on the REAL terms of representing US and the Constitution, I suggest you read three things: Common Sense, The Constitution, and Ron Paul’s books (even just one of them like “The Revolution” will give you a good idea of his positions). Of course, if you are only interested in parroting the attacks of the media which have no relation to the real issues, then please go ahead and forget about educating yourself. You would be among many others, and it’s your American right to throw away your freedoms.

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Rick Perry was a democrackkk BEFORE he was a republicannot…

Ron Paul/Michele Bachman 2012! (or Herman Cain!)

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Georgia republicans remember, Cole Slaw for President!

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Ed what you are saying is that the Constitution and the will of our founding fathers are a “minority viewpoint.” You better HOPE TO GOD you are wrong there, Bucko! You are so messed up in the head you have forgotten that we are supposed to be a FREE people, given INALIENABLE rights by our CREATOR, and NOT by some government!? Have you ever read ANYTHING from our founding fathers? Your hollow bubble gum scientific argument is useless when your underlying message is that we are INCAPABLE of regulating ourselves and therefore can only trust our choices to an overpowering CENTRALIZED government which tells us how to live, what to eat, how to marry, when to give all our money to them, and allow them to force their tyrrany over us because “regulation is the way of the universe, dude!” You are obviously brainwashed, man. Choose your tyrant. Lick his boots. Don’t come running to those who warned you when you become the next collared dog. Seriously wtf.

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marc,

News flash, we don’t have a creator and the Constitution does not reference any imaginary friends.
I am entirely familiar of the Revolutionary Period and the various viewpoints expressed by it’s authors (you may want to pay a little more attention to Thomas Paine). I am also familiar with the vacuous nonsense proffered by dr. paul’s hero, ayn rand. I don’t buy it.
The only real goal of the libertoonians is to figure out a method to wiggle out from under the cost of Civilization and paying for it through taxation. If it made sense, it would be accepted. Instead, it is nothing but a carefully crafted set of excuses that might work in a group of 50 people but loses function in greater numbers.

I wake up every morning and look at the daily reports on the clown car circus and I do say, seriously wtf.

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oh I get it. You two are neocons who believe in the whole “survival of the fittest” and “Please induct us into the evil club of overlords glee club.” Newsflash fellas. YOU will be crushed under the boots of your elected leaders as well. Like I said, don’t come crying to us when you have nothing. When you cast your lot beside traitors, you are a traitor too. Remember that. You won’t keep the message of freedom down, so keep fawning over your evil overlords you atheist idiots.

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marc,

You so clearly explain why your minority viewpoint is not now and will never grow in acceptance.

Counseling might help.

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homested:

“News flash, we don’t have a creator and the Constitution does not reference any imaginary friends.”

Far be it from me to question your expertise on the “Revolutionary Period”, but ar least one minor document did mention the Creator. I’m sure you recall these words from the Declaration of Independence, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” My guess is that not ALL the signers were atheists.

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marc,

I almost joined the libertoonians back in the late ’70s, until I realized all they really wanted was to figure out how to weasel out of paying taxes.

Paul may make a few of the lost feel better, but he has no plans of how to correct for the MIC created mess we are in today.

If he were to step forward and point out that immediate increase in taxes was required and those taxes would obviously have to be balanced toward the top, I would accept he had a clue. But I won’t hold my breath.

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Seriously. The taxes aren’t what’s causing the problem. It’s the SPENDING and the BORROWING to the FED. The bank needs money, the FED prints the money, and charges the UNITED STATES the interest, and gets rich off of the uncontrolled spending. ADD to that the unmitigated greed and diversion of money into every which way all ending up in someone’s pockets and absolutely NO consequences upon them and you have our current problem. Raise taxes? really? Why not instead STOP STEALING from US!!!! Maybe THAT might be a BETTER IDEA??? You HAVENT read anything from Paul I bet. You don’t seem to know what he thinks at all…

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You can’t go anywhere hardly, without being on a camera. Where’s a picture of the plane that hit the pentagon?

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Simple logic the videos are for THEIR purposes, not OURS. We get only what they SAY we get and then we better SMILE at them and STFU. That’s how a police state works. We are supposed to be turning on each other, like the department of homeland security ordered us to. Rat on your neighbor for cutting his grass too short. If he leaves a backpack on his driveway, call the bomb squad and have his home blown up. THAT is what AMERICA is REALLY ABOUT, baby! So says our government!

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same modus operandi as Iowa: “photo-finish loss”

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Cain will not get 10 percent of the primary vote- if he is still in it by then.

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Ron Paul’ 6 point plan to end immigration:

Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.

If we would have listened to Ron Paul we would have gotten bin Laden in 2003 – he correctly predicted he was in Pakistan (there is a vid clip on youtube of him saying this on the house floor) and suggested that we do it differently – targeting him in small-scale attacks, not invade and occupy Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11 – his plan would have been effective, saved TRILLIONS of dollars and THOUSANDS of innocent lives. He also voted YES to go to Afghanistan because he believed it was justified.

Ron Paul’s economic plan is explained below, in part, but that really encompasses every category to understand the full scope of it, but this will give you a good idea:

http://www.downsizedc.org/etp/honest-money/ .

Other things to know about Ron Paul:

He has NEVER voted to raise taxes.

He has NEVER voted for an unbalanced budget.

He has NEVER voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.

He has NEVER voted to raise congressional pay.

He has NEVER taken a government-paid junket.

He has NEVER voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted AGAINST the Patriot Act.

He voted AGAINST regulating the Internet.

He voted AGAINST the Iraq war.

He DOES NOT participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.

He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

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Andrew,

I wonder how much these pointless ’straw polls’ increase the total cost of elections and along the way distort the overall process.
Iowa meant nothing as bachmann has probably received all the votes she will get.
This nonsense in Perry is about as important as purdue’s annual quail hunt. A lot of chest thumping and dixie-whistling, but little attachment to who will be re-elected President.

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3 votes, big deal. Considering the huge influence of the banking community, military industrial complex and other parasitical government fed industries in this state this is great news for the average citizen. Cain of course is just another pro-establishment type, former director of the KC Federal Reserve, and pro-empire candidate. That Ron Paul only lost by 3 votes shows that georgia republicans are finally coming around to understand the type of man that is needed to actually put forward the sound economic and foreign policy changes that will be needed to restore america. Great job Ron. You’ve got my family’s votes.

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Bill: exactly
Last Man: Agreed totally, but how do you get people to see that? The media thought police and brainwashing machine is on full steam. People aren’t wanting to listen because the truth is overwhelmingly depressing. People are not going to choose to listen or wake up until the evil regime is already busting down their door to put dog collars on them and their kids.

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So right now, the back of the pack is held down by ‘talk radio’ and ‘no accomplishment’.

Heck of a way to run a government, into the ground.

Luckily, it has nothing to do with our next election.

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Ron Paul 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!

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no honested as it turns out is ironically DIShonest, but mostly with himself. De-nial is not just a river!

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Ron Paul votes against all the spending bills, but in the amendment stage tries to get as much back for his congressional district out of the total that is already set to be spent, as possible. It NEVER buys his vote for the underlying bill, because he NEVER votes for the underlying bill. Once a bill is passed as law of the land and money is committed, he does make sure the government spends it on the people who need it, and goes to bat for his constituents.

One commentator on a news program said ‘what if you are President and they won’t abolish the departments like you want, wont abolish these programs’ and he said, well at least a better manager could run them more effectively and efficiently. He is both ideologically correct, AND is that better, more representative, manager.

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mark,

Paul may stomp his little feet and ‘vote against all spending bills’ but he and his district still take the money (and have for a generation).
The truth is much more interesting than the hollow nonsense.
But it doesn’t matter, since 1% won’t win a primary or an election.

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Galveston was hit by hurricane Rita and Ron was getting money which was already going to get spent back to his constituents to rebuild. No. He wasn’t trying to “earmark” for dastardly purposes. what a joke.

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Ron Paul 2012!

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go Steve!

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Thanks, George!

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I’m a Ron Paul supporter myself, but all I know is, no matter who wins… no matter how old, what the color of their skin, whether they’re male or female… I just hope we don’t have to deal with another George W Bush or Obama… they’ve both clearly shown that they have no idea what to do in the Oval Office, and American people’s lives and financial grounds are on the balance. Something different has to be done, because whatever wacky system we’ve got set up right now ain’t doing the trick.

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I just went back and read comments from RPers saying things like “I bet RP didn’t even put anything into this” and “RP did it without any buses”.

Just tooooo funny based on the fact that almost had to trick folks into “winning” tickets and admit on their own website that they “gave away about 120 tickets from our grassroots outreach”.

Subtract 120 from RP’s Straw Poll total and he’s in the basement!

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ron paul
Runs as a republican
Votes as a libertarian
Takes Federal dollars as a socialist.

Which one is he?

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Freedom,

Don’t start packing.
He isn’t likely to finish 3rd in a primary.

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Well, maybe this is just me, but… if the RP people did earn free passes to vote in the straw poll or whatever… it’s not like they were forced at gunpoint to take them; I would imagine the thought process being, “Oh, I like this candidate, and look! This group of people is giving me the chance to show my support for the candidate for free! I think I’ll just take advantage of that; after all, in this economy, free is always a good price!” It would be different if they were forced into going to this thing, but I have a hard time thinking that the people would go if they didn’t want to go.

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marc

Take a moment, look in the mirror.
Figure out who is really licking what, and who might just be the fool.

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you people gripe about something you’ve never spent a fraction of a second trying to understand. You doom yourselves and you certainly don’t understand the issues. You care about regurgitating the opinions of your idols like Rush Limbaugh and Hannity etc what fools you are. Despite you and your kind, people ARE waking up and they ARE listening, and that scares your masters more than it does you, I PROMISE.

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Ron will continue to gain popularity, his message WILL get exposure despite your attempts to ridicule and hide them. You have a very good chance of being saved despite your arrogance and idiocy. ANYONE ELSE who doesnt know about Ron Paul and isn’t completely brain washed yet or set on being slaves please do research Ron. He has several books out, His website is easy to find, and his positions are all out there on YOU TUBE etc. Be careful only to listen to him and his own words- obviously as seen above people will slant, lie, manipulate and edit his words to suit their own stupid agendas. Ask yourself why the media is trying to black him out. He’s a valid contender that is WINNING many of these polls. The media puts out polls and then takes them down when RON comes out ahead. They ignore the number 2 and only speak about 1 and 3. Even JON STEWART had to clown on these fools because they are blatantly ignoring Ron. Why? Because he is packing truth and supporting US and the Constitution and that really threatens everything the evil people in our government have been working hard on in secret. Check him out, I dare you!

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yeah, an apathetic bootlicker who spreads lies and tries to sabotage the only true effort to win back everyone’s freedom. Your perspective is truly dangerous to all of us.

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WHoever is still paying a little bit of attention: honested is an obsessive compulsive liar:

honested
August 27th, 2011
11:28 pm

Whoever is still paying a little tiny bit of attention.
Ron Paul:

Opposes reproductive rights. (FALSE. He is pro life but believes that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THIS AT ALL)

Opposes public education (FALSE. He is very pro education but believes AGAIN that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS NOT AUTHORIZED TO MAKE UP RULES ON THIS by the CONSTITUTION)

Supports the radical christian reconstructionist nutcase ‘Constitution Party’. (FALSE. He IS Christian but believes AGAIN that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT should not BE INVOLVED In any way, shape or form in RELIGION. AGAIN, supporting the CONSTITUTION.)

Opposes gay rights. (FALSE. He supports rights for ALL people and believes AGAIN that the FEDERAL government should not be involved in saying ANYTHING about how a person lives their life)
Opposes appropriate revenue collection and distribution. (FALSE. He opposses INAPPROPRIATE and UNCONSTITUTIONAL THEFT and UNCHECKED EXPENDITURES without the PEOPLE KNOWING WHERE MONEY GOES)

Supports a return to the early 1900’s. (FALSE. and absurd. What is this supposed to mean, anyway? seriously retarded)

Do the research, the thick blanket of facts should have suffocated this pathetic nutcase years ago.

APPARENTLY DIS-honested believes you all are too stupid to do any research and fancies that you will just take his word for it. Well, obsessive compulsive liar Ed, you were WRONG.

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Ron Paul 2012!!!

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http://youtu.be/VoOX9p07xOk

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3 Votes?! In his home state?! 0.34% is a statistical tie, sir. And in the midst of a 24 hr. establishment media propaganda campaign. Edged out, my ass. Ron Paul’s got it locked. Cain can pack it up.

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Interesting vote, but doesn’t mean a darn thing. Neither Cain or Paul are electable. No way either of them wins the nomination. Not taking sides, just an objective observation. Hard for me to believe I actually read this drivel of an article, much less commented. Please give me back these last few minutes.

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@honested, Put down the crack pipe and step away from the Kool-Aid. Ron Paul has the most conservative voting record OF ANY CONGRESSMAN IN U.S. HISTORY. Accusing a student of the Austrian School of socialism is beyond laughable. Herman Cain is taking a page right out of the Communist Manifesto with his support of central banking. NO supporter of the free-market and sound economics supports the thoroughly discredited junk science that is Keynesian ‘economics’. Your Federal Reserve shill, TARP supporter, and ‘problem solver’ can’t solve anything he fundamentally does not understand. He’s already done enough damage for one lifetime, he’s done, and he can take his collectivism and statism and go home.

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I love Ron Paul, but these Straw Polls are always stuffed in his favor. He was winning them in ‘07, and being one of only a few thousand people who voted for him in the general election, I can tell you how that turned out. However it’s probably a good indicator for other candidates, whose votes usually come from people who can’t be bothered to show up for anything until the actual election.

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[...] full standings, from a Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Jim Galloway, who records a miss of unrestrained for Mitt Romney and Michele [...]

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Does he or does he not support the ‘Constitution Party’? (careful, the facts are clear)
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http://www.facebook.com/notes/republican-security-council/ron-paul-and-fema-we-should-be-like-1900-a-formula-for-no-recovery-from-natural-/125808764184970

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Ron wrote honestly in his book “The Revolution” that when he was young and an intern that he walked in on a woman getting a delivery/abortion and saw a bunch of doctors/nurses chuck a baby into a bucket. He stood there in horror as the baby gasped for it’s first breath, trying to live. That changed his views forever, and YES, he IS PRO LIFE. YOU are trying to INSINUATE that he would take a woman’s rights away. Nothing is further from the truth. He is foremost for freedoms. IN FACT, what he has STATE even RECENTLY, if you had been paying attention was that his position is that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT should NOT be involved in this because it is not their right to do so and it is not authorized by the CONSTITUTION ANYWHERE. He has stated that IF.. IF the states want to make a rule, it would be THEIR right to do so, but NOT the FEDERAL governments. Stop trying to insinuate that Ron is taking people’s rights away.NEXT.

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Fewer Taxes for Real Economic Stimulus

by Ron Paul

Taxes are the issue this week as Americans struggle to make the April 15th deadline to file their returns. It is a good time to contemplate the effects of big government and what it does to our country. The income tax is one of the most egregious encroachments on our liberties today. It is a form of involuntary servitude, which was supposed to have been outlawed by the 13th Amendment.

Tax Freedom Day is defined as the day when the nation as a whole has theoretically earned enough income to fund its annual federal tax burden. For all of the days of the year before this day, you are a slave to government. For 2009, Tax Freedom Day will come on April 13th. Almost a century ago in 1910, before the mistakes of 1913-namely the inception of the Federal Reserve and our current income tax, Tax Freedom Day was January 19th, signifying a mere 5% tax burden. Somehow, our country functioned just fine.

If calculated to include government spending and the deficit, rather than just collections, Tax Freedom Day would actually fall on May 29. The annual deficit adds to the growing debt of future generations and adds insult to injury to those that struggle to make this economy work. It is a slap in the face that this is not enough to prevent this crushing governmental burden from falling on the next generation.

For months now, Washington has been desperately throwing taxpayers’ money at various programs to stimulate us out of the recession, to no avail. Seeing hard-earned money confiscated from the people and spent in such wasteful ways, such as the recent bailouts, is almost too much to bear. Getting rid of the income tax altogether, while very beneficial, may be a while in coming. In the meantime, I am fighting for every tax cut or tax credit possible.

I can think of no better economic stimulus than letting people keep their money and spend it how they see fit. For this reason, I am an original cosponsor on a bill that would give Americans a two month employment and income tax holiday, while taking unused TARP money back from the Secretary of the Treasury and putting it in the Social Security trust fund instead.

In addition, I have recently introduced the Child Health Care Affordability Act. If passed this legislation would provide parents with a tax credit of up to $500 for health care expenses of dependent children. I have also re-introduced the Tax Free Tips Act, which would make tips exempt from federal income and payroll taxes. I am also an original cosponsor of a bill that would make permanent the deduction of state and local sales taxes. My bill HR 162 exempts Social Security benefits from income tax.

These are just a few of the many tax related bills I am fighting for in Congress, but without a corresponding cut in the size of government, which I am also fighting for, we are simply adding to the future tax burden of our children

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Josh maybe that is more about election rigging?

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Ron Paul can, and with our efforts will, win the Republican nomination. Anyone who says he simply “won’t” or “can’t” is simply wrong or doesn’t understand how this system actually works. Hillary was the Democratic leadership’s choice, and look who became the nominee, and then President, based solely on the power of the vote, the grassroots and his supporters. The corporate establishment simply looks to get 26% of the 50% or so of Americans who actually vote. Many of the most consistent voters are over 60 and have very minimal exposure with the internet, and thus name exposure via CNN and Fox and the news papers is even more key. This IS why they’re so obviously and strategically omitting Ron Paul. Their under-coverage can be matched and exceeded by the power of we the people, the power of community, and the power of ideas. Word of mouth is THE most effective form of spreading ideas. Ron Paul’s popularity consistently rises in direct correlation with his exposure. In my humble opinion, Dr. Ron Paul’s ideas are the cure to this country’s woes, on everything from the ending of the costly endless wars for private profit (note: he has more support from our troops than all of the other republicans COMBINED and more than Obama), auditing/phasing out the federal reserve which devalues our currency as it secretly prints trillions of dollars to hand to foreign banks, to the reforming of common sense business rules and regulations, freeing the markets for innovation and efficient competition, the legalization of marijuana/hemp (hemp being a prime ethanol source, with any drug abuse seen as medical not criminal), to removing predatory corporate influence from the federal government and breaking up the various costly arrays of market-choking industrial complexes, and returning to the constitution and vision of liberty this country was founded on.
Once again, it will take our efforts.
Talk about Ron Paul.. As Jessica put it, one friend and family member at at a time. Encourage Democrats, Independents, and others you know to register Republican if your state’s rulings require a party membership to vote in the Primaries. Movements like “Blue Republican” (become a Republican for a year for Ron Paul) are growing to help with this. Coordinate with local Tea Party groups and help us reclaim the movement for the cause of the guy whose grassroots started it all.
Discuss Ron Paul’s ideas, and engage in conversations to clear up any distorted perceptions about some of his stances. Spread the message. This is a revolution of ideas, in a time of potential great change in the birth of the information age.
Cheers!
Ron Paul 2012

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The Following is What is Different and Better About Ron Paul Over All Others:

He has never taken a government junket.

He does not participate in the lucrative Congressional Pension Program.

He returns a portion of his annual Congressional Office Budget every
year.

He has never voted to raise taxes.

He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.

He voted no to the bankster bailout.

He voted no to raising the debt ceiling and warned us against
the “Super Congress” part of the legislation that resembles both
an “ Enabling Act” and a “Politburo.”

He has never voted to restrict gun ownership.

He has never voted to raise Congressional Pay.

He never voted to increase Executive Branch Power.

He will Reinstate The Constitution and Save The Republic

He will END the unconstitutional FED.

He will phase out the unconstitutional IRS beginning immediately 

He will secure the borders

He will limit Big Government in your private affairs

He will stop Illegal immigration and no amnesty

He voted against regulating the Internet

He is the only candidate for President in 2012 who actually served his country.

He was a flight surgeon during Vietnam.

Ron Paul’s popularity is so high among U.S. service members that the Texas
 Congressman’s presidential campaign has received more money from U.S.
soldiers than any other candidate in the 2012 presidential race.
 http://www.thestatecolumn.com/…

He voted against the Iraq War and warned us against going forward with
an undeclared war.“Let it not be said that no one cared, that
no one objected once it´s realized that our liberty and wealth are in
Jeopardy” July 10th, 2003

He voted against the unconstitutional and un-patriotic misnomered so called “Patriot Act”.

He supports a non-interventionist foreign policy yet a strong defense

He will end the inflation tax He is a true Constitutional
Conservative

He would have soundly beat Obama in 2008 because Independents trust him and like him.

We could have had a V8 instead of McCain´t in 08

Ron Paul for President 2012

Because no one else can be trusted to say what he means and do what he says like Ron Paul does.

Ron Paul is the man of the hour. They used to laugh him for being way ahead
of the others in his thinking and his warnings. Now, they are not
laughing because what he predicted is coming to pass. Now, he is being called
a prophet for having warned us and still calmly suffered through the
barbs. “First they, ignore you, then they fight you, then you
win.” Gandhi

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no
vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of
justice is no virtue!” Barry Goldwater”

When fascism goes to sleep it looks under the bed for Ron Paul.

Senator Barry Goldwater´s son, former Congressman Barry
Goldwater Jr. endorses Ron Paul. Ron Paul has been warning us for
so long of the impending economic disaster we are seeing today,
and he has been purposefully working to wake us to realize we
must change our course to save the Republic. I take Ron Paul
very seriously. He may not be the most polished public speaker,
but he speaks the truth with unvarnished power; He needs no
teleprompter to carry on an intelligent discourse for over two hours to a packed auditorium of twenty and thirty something voters! He may not be the  tallest, or the most strikingly handsome candidate, he doesn´t have “pretty hair”  but people want the Real Deal. Ron Paul is the real deal.

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Wow Dr. Ron Paul almost got first in a place where Cain is the hometown favorite

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As all of you have been saying looks like Ron Paul actually won this. To tell you the truth I am glad he came in 2nd Place. If he kept on winning theses straw polls the Propaganda Media Stream (PMS) would have said straw polls are irrelevant.

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This is a victory for Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!

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Ron Paul is a Republican Congressman who has been elected as such for 11 terms. He is not running as a Libertarian. Entitlements: He would on DAY ONE begin to end these wars (all 5 of them!!) and bring the troops home from all around the world. He receives more donations from active military then all the other candidates combined. He was drafted during Vietnam and served as a flight surgeon for 5 years. He has stated over and over that the money used to continue these needless wars would be used to shore up social security, medicare etc. He has stated over and over he would reopen the bases that were closed here at home (the closings devastated local economies that relied on the bases for taxes, local business and civilian jobs), and use our troops to guard our borders and ports . To work on our infrastructure. He would halt foreign aide. He would pay down the national debt by freezing spending at last years rate. We live within our means, why shouldn’t the government? If we did this we would be debt free in 5 years. And yes, he would drastically shrink the size of the federal government giving the control back to the STATES where it belongs. Example: Dept. of argriculture and Education. We should decide how to educate our children. Isn’t that what school boards are elected to do? How about the right to drink raw milk? We could get into the Patriot Act, The Federal Reserve, the Dept. of Homeland Security. That has to go. I mean really, what are the FBI, CIA, ATF, for? How about getting groped at the airport? How’s that working out for you? Along with Bailouts, failed stimulas etc. The right for Sates to decide on Medicinal Marijuana. Ron has introduced bills on Medical Marijuana, Traverler’s Diginity Act, Raw Milk Act. I could go on all day. Do your reasearch. Really look at what this humble Doctor, son of a PA dairy farmer, has stood for and championed the last 3 decades.

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Why have none of the GOP candidates attacked the virtual amnesty for illegal alien criminals recently announced by comrade Obama? Here is an issue handed them on a silver platter…it could be a game-changer.

AZ Gov. Brewer is considering moving up that state’s primary to force them to take a stand on immigration…Perry and Huntsman are strong supporters of the third-world invasion of America.

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Its amazing that you have to have a license to drive a car but not to have kids or vote.

Some of you paranoid delusional people, like fire eater, should really not speak and have your voting rights taken away. You’re really not smart enough to vote.

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No worries here, because whoever Georgia picks in straw polls or primaries NEVER ends up being the nominee. Thank goodness, because its top 4 completely stink.

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Go Here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?310624-Georgia-Straw-Poll-and-Fish-Fry-8-27

See post #9.

Full description of how/WHY RP comes in high in straw polls (including Iowa and GA).

It ain’t cheating. It IS disingenuous to tout it as some kind of proof of legitimacy.

I once again direct you to the results of straw polls for Melvin Everson and Gerry Purcell in 2010. They won em all! Big time. They were exuberant. They were bragadocious! They were certain of victory when the real polling began!

Melvin lost with 30%
Gerry came in 4th (Not even close to the runoff)

Have a nice day. Thanks for playing.

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Yep. People are waking up over time. Surprised that so many have awaken so early through the year. Ron Paul is always on the edges to winning, and people may say he is failing… .Really? If you add up the votes, being so close to the top on EACH voting sector, you see he won beyond the other people he is campaigning against.

Count it universally, not individually.

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I don’t think 890 voters will win anything.

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Screw ‘Em All

VOTE RON PAUL!!!

SAVE this country from STATIST PROGRESSIVE SLAVERY.

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One thing I’ve learned is never to be surprised by Georgia politics. I go all the way back to Herman Talmage, Marvin Giffin, Lester Maddox, Zig Zag Zell Miller and it just gets weirder and weirder up to the election of Deal who escaped Washington two steps in front of an ethics investigation and was elected governator to escape another ethic investigation because of budget problems.

Dang if he ain’t one lucky sonofagun!

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After reading and bantering withe apparently delusional ’supporters’ of herman cain and ron paul, I am reinforced in having never considered for a second voting for either of them.

I don’t know the set of conditions or the age at which one attaches themselves to an alternate universe and holds on tenaciously because everyone else in the world ‘just doesn’t understand’ but the last 5 pages could be used for a doctoral thesis on just such a pathology.

I am glad that ‘whoever wins in GA always loses Nationally’ is much more than likely to occur again. I just wish there was some sort of id requirement for the rabid blatherers so that one could avoid close contact or accidentally purchasing something that put a penny in their pocket.

Keep the sane in charge of the world!

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Wow, Ron Paul was only a few votes short of beating Cain in his own state.

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Cain is wroth.

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Sam:

“Screw ‘Em All”

Yep, that is what I say – about the Paul supporters who define other folks as anti-freedom and anti-liberty if they do not join the crazed masses of Paul supporters. Yes, indeed, “screw ‘em all”!

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There is not any good choices for president running. No one is willing to restructure the tax codes/tables. The greed in Washington and Corporations needs to be eliminated. Eliminate lobbyist. Eliminate the perks of congress and ex-presidents

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No insults JD.

But I do question the supporter’s use of a welfare-like system for getting folks to show up and vote for RP at the Fish Fry.

Is it y’all’s (RPers’) contention that the parasites that are leaching off of the Federal Government on welfare are perfectly legitimate for doing so, as long as they can answer a question asked of them in a robocall? And that we as the rest of the citizens of the country should put a bunch of weight into what those leaches’ positions are simply because they were given free lunch(es)?

That is EXACTLY what you are contending by suggesting that we all should think that it was significant that RP came in second in a straw poll in which 120 individuals were paid to go (they got free lunch and a t-shirt, sounds like they got paid to go to me!).

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Forget Cain; we’ve tried a black president.

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Herman Cain’s support of the FairTax is my litmus test for a candidate. The FairTax would allow the individual to choose when and how much taxes she wants to pay for the government that she gets. The income tax is nothing but a claim of ownership on everything you do, you create, you earn and you accrue.

With an income tax, your money is SEIZED.

With the FairTax, your tax is PAID!

One imposes an involuntary lien on all that you create and the “Massah” in Washington dictates just how much they want to extract from their slaves. This can be confirmed by the way our Gov’t refers to tax cuts as SPENDING THEIR MONEY.

Please support the candidates that Support the FairTax… those are the only candidates that truely believe in freedom and responcibility.

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We have tried a white President too. So, I guess candide is saying a Latino or Asian will get us out of this latest mess that started 11 years ago.

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I can’t understand why someone would vote for cain beings he was in the past, on the board of the federal reserve, which of course is really the main problem why our country is in the mess that it is in. A private entity that controls our countries money supply and interest rates, is bound for corruption. Ron Paul is what this country needs right now.

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Smoke:

Marco Rubio? I can easily see me voting for him. He does have a very promising future. I have found no negatives about him.

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Adakin Valorem:

“ambibuous” should read “ambiguous”.

Sorry for the typo.

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Romney’s performance is a reminder that his religion will always make him a hard sale in the south and no Republican can win the general election without winning the South. Georgia already leans much more heavily toward Obama than it has done for previous Democrats. That’s partly because of the large African-American population. If the Republicans send a Mormon nominee with a history of left-leaning programs such as RomneyCare in Massachussetts we might as well just hand over the win.

I think Romney started out with all the momentum he’ll ever have.

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liberalefty:

We are spending millions to refurbish mosques in countries abroad, but I haven’t heard of a single dime being spent on Christian churches abroad. I think it fair to say that Christians are being discriminated against by the current administration. If Cain discriminates against muslims, I guess it would be leveling the playing field. I don’t have a problem with that.

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who cares? on anyones radar, these two mean nothing in the scheme of things; wingnuts yet again; georgia still the laughing stock………oh for just one intellectual……..aarrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh

does anyone really care; wingnuts on the march; like all of georgia…..scary to consideractually….we continue to dream of an intellectual ever showing up
in this reddest of states. aaargh

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Ron Paul is a mean, nasty, petty little as he is followers..he thinks Iran is not a threat, but Isreal is. He wants to legalize drugs. he is too old, too crazy and needs to hang it up.

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po CAIN in his zeal to appease racists he has to be a racist himself!

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Go Herman!!! Keep the Cain Train rolling..

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Oh yeah, do another “on-line” poll so Paul’s fans can spam that one too. People have caught onto the tactics of Ron Paul’s fans and NO ONE believes a one of those polls any more. The MSM discounts every online poll that he is included in for a REASON, and that is because you guys cheat. Keep it up, and you will see even more ignoring of your guy as time goes on. People are sick of it.

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We cannot afford another President that is in bed with the big banks. While Herman Cain seems like a decent man, the truth is he’s another big bank president. Rick Perry is just plain evil. I wouldn’t buy a used car from the guy. Just google “Perry and gardisil”.

Ron Paul was first ignored by the media and now is being vilified at every oppurtunity The reason is that he is NOT in bed with the banks or the corporations that run the media. He has integrity and cannot be bought. He stands for sound money (big banks hate that), the Constitution (corporations that buy political influence hate that), and a strong national defense. He receives more support from our men and women in uniform than any other canidate for a reason.

Ron Paul 2012 — Go America!

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Paul was is an “air force veteran.” He was a flight surgeon. Just a doctor in uniform, not a fighter.

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After listening to Herman on his radio show for 30 minutes, it was pretty easy to tell he is insane.

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“Ron Paul is a career politician.”

Mr. Last Man Standing, if that is true, why does he have an M.D. after his name, and not a JD or MBA?

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liberalefty:

I was wrong. The following from factcheck.com:

But the program isn’t the brainchild of President Barack Obama. The program was created by Congress in late 2000 under President Bill Clinton, and the first grants were announced under President George W. Bush in 2001. The State Department says that, in total, the fund has contributed nearly $26 million to approximately 640 cultural heritage sites in more than 100 countries, and more than half was given before Obama took office.

It’s true that mosques are among the cultural sites that have received grant money under this program. But temples and churches around the world also have received funding, contrary to AFA’s claim that the “secular left” would be upset if “these monies had been spent to repair Christian churches.” When we searched the State Department’s database and lists of 2009 and 2010 projects for “mosque” and “minaret,” we found that 30 mosques or minaret restoration projects had received funding under Bush, and seven such sites had been funded under Obama. Also, 29 projects for churches and cathedrals were funded under Bush and 13 under Obama. Those totals do not represent all Christian or Islamic historical and cultural sites, however — our search for “mosque,” for instance wouldn’t pull up funding for an Islamic monument or conservation of ancient manuscripts, and our search for “church” didn’t pull up restoration of convents or monasteries. Plus — as anyone who has visited the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul or the Mezquita, a mosque and cathedral in Cordoba, Spain, could tell you — there are many ancient sites that were Islamic and Christian places of worship at different points in time. In fact, our searches of “mosque” and “church” both pulled up the $33,455 awarded to the 14th century Mosque of Old Dongola in Sudan, which was a church in the 9th century. And one of the “cathedral” projects in Uganda under Bush was the documentation of “historic buildings,” including “cultural sites, unique architectural designs, cathedrals, Hindu temples, mosques, state buildings and ancestral homes,” according to the State Department database.

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Ron Paul tied with Herman in Herman’s own state? How’s that workin’ for ya, Herm? It’s the unstoppable tide of the Liberty!

Will Herman take a stand to abolish the Fed? Will Herman restore the country to sound money? Neither will Michelle or any of the rest.

As much as I like about Herman Cain’s persona, I find his association with his former employer to be a major drawback. So that’s not workin’ for me.

To say that Herman or Michelle won is like saying the ‘possums won because, they ran up a tree. The Partisans of Liberty are coming after the varmint nominalist Republican’ts to finish the job. Ron Paul is definitely my dog in this hunt! And he’s workin’ just fine, for me!

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[...] By Jim Galloway at ajc.com [...]

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Dr. Ron Paul 2012!

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One thing I like to do is put a lot of thought into my comments, so that I need only make one…and make it clear. Speaking of career politicians, What we have in Ron Paul is a career candidate. Remember Ralph Nader? That’s what he was…or still maybe, it’s still early yet. Ron Paul reminds me a lot of him. I like all the answers Ron Paul provides for our ailing constitution. But I just don’t believe the consternation is in his gut to move and shake things as needed. Also Ron seems a bit fuzzy on some topics, and on others, his answers are just too doggone simple for the complicated and menacing obstacles that criss-cross our government.
Herman is real. He didn’t come on the scene to gain attention. I’ve known about him for years. I’m supporting him till the end. I won’t go into what I think is right or wrong about him to you Ron Paul supporters….it would help you to quit dissing Herman Cain though, and view a few of his speeches online (mostly to educate yourselves), before you start plucking all the flowers and letting the weeds proliferate.

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Ron Paul has explained Why Austrian economics works to the satisfaction of millions or registered voters – so well I have personally spent thousands of dollars helping bring his dream to fruition. What has been touched upon less frequently is WHY we should give it a chance instead of continuing down the Keynesian road to serfdom. You may be unaware that one earner could support quite a large family when we were on the gold standard – it is only the ‘progress’ we’ve experienced that makes it so a home with two wage earners can still be below the poverty line. You may also be unaware that since the FED was established in 1913, the dollar (formerly 1/20 ounce of gold) is now 1/1800 ounce of gold. That’s right, the value of a dollar has decreased 90 TIMES. There are more people on food stamps now than there were wage earners in 1913. The number of unemployed is over 22% (shadowstats.com). Where in these numbers do you see a shining ray of hope that we are doing the correct thing? These numbers could hardly be worse, even given some national disaster. They’re the result of us applying the Keynesian methodology (stimulus and deficit spending) – we’ve been doing it since 1971. That’s when we went off the gold standard, which made this spending possible. Trillions of dollars in stimuli have NOT worked. Now it’s time to try something different so we can verify experimentally which course of action is the correct one. You can’t know until you compare.

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