Herman Cain edges out Ron Paul in Georgia GOP straw poll
Georgia native and tea party favorite Herman Cain edged out libertarian Ron Paul at the GOP annual fish fry down in Perry on Saturday.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney finished a surprisingly distant fifth, behind Texas Gov. Rick Perry and another Georgia favorite, former U.S. House speaker Newt Gingrich. Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann also had a weak showing.
Results were just phoned in by B.J. VanGundy, the party’s second vice president. Over 1100 tickets were sold, he said, and 890 votes were cast.
The totals:
– Herman Cain, 232 or 26 percent;
– Ron Paul, 229 or 25.7 percent;
– Rick Perry, 179 or 20 percent;
– Newt Gingrich, 162 or 18 percent;
– Mitt Romney, 51 or 6 percent;
– Michele Bachman, 29 or 3 percent;
– Rick Santorum, 4 or .4 percent
– Jon Huntsman, 3 or .3 percent;
– Thad McCotter, 1 or .1 percent;
– Buddy Roemer, 0;
– Gary Johnson, 0;
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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findog
August 27th, 2011
8:00 pm
The old guard GOP military industrial complex will never let Dr Paul represent them. A DOD based on national defense and not national offense, what we had from before we were a nation until WWII, does not offer their “jobs” programs that both party’e have constantly expanded based on weapons development pumping that we continue to prime…
findog
August 27th, 2011
8:06 pm
Marc, the good doctor votes against all the spending bills but has his hand out for every waste, fraud, and abuse scam those bills promulgate.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
8:14 pm
Well legislatively, he’s voted AGAINST all the stupid laws that the others have created that are UNCONSTITUTIONAL for many, many years! They call him Dr. NO because he votes against all the laws they having been creating where the elected officials enjoy benefits we do not, where there are laws that WE are subject to that THEY are not, for any power that the Constitution does not specifically allow for. HIS legislation would be to UNDO all the unconstitutional crap that’s been created in the last 40 to 50 years. Understand the Constitution. Understand the founding fathers philosophy that government is a necessary evil at BEST and that it should be extremely and severely LIMITED in scope. THEN you will understand WHY he says what he does. Asking what legislation he has championed is parroting the media because that is insinuating that in order to be a GOOD representative of the people, you need to MAKE LAWS all the time. That’s the messed up state of our mentality. Laws should only be created if absolutely necessary. REGULATION is not the natural STATE of things. If you REALLY want to know why Ron IS accomplished on the REAL terms of representing US and the Constitution, I suggest you read three things: Common Sense, The Constitution, and Ron Paul’s books (even just one of them like “The Revolution” will give you a good idea of his positions). Of course, if you are only interested in parroting the attacks of the media which have no relation to the real issues, then please go ahead and forget about educating yourself. You would be among many others, and it’s your American right to throw away your freedoms.
CHARLIE PETERS
August 27th, 2011
8:18 pm
Has any of the presidential runners worked for the fed, support HR 459 Paul to audit the federal reserve.
BitterEXdemocrackkk
August 27th, 2011
8:19 pm
Rick Perry was a democrackkk BEFORE he was a republicannot…
Ron Paul/Michele Bachman 2012! (or Herman Cain!)
honested
August 27th, 2011
8:19 pm
marc,
So dr. paul obviously has no idea what ‘representation’ means if he constantly puts his tiny minority viewpoint ahead of the real needs of his constituents.
Regulation IS the natural state of things. Think of Gravity as opposed to Centrifugal force. Which of those would you like to eliminate in pursuit of a ‘freer’ system?
There is a very clear an obvious reason why dr. paul has never received as much as a single electoral vote in his MANY Presidential campaigns, the overwhelming majority of Americans can see through the false promises of his do-nothing legislative policies.
honested
August 27th, 2011
8:20 pm
Georgia republicans remember, Cole Slaw for President!
Octavius
August 27th, 2011
8:22 pm
“Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney finished a surprisingly distant fifth, behind Texas Gov. Rick Perry…Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann also had a weak showing.”
This just accentuates how Georgia is perennially out of step with the rest of America. Everyone ‘cept the fish fry gang understands that neither Herman nor Ron have even the same chance as a snowball sittin out in my driveway in the noonday sun.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
8:28 pm
Ed what you are saying is that the Constitution and the will of our founding fathers are a “minority viewpoint.” You better HOPE TO GOD you are wrong there, Bucko! You are so messed up in the head you have forgotten that we are supposed to be a FREE people, given INALIENABLE rights by our CREATOR, and NOT by some government!? Have you ever read ANYTHING from our founding fathers? Your hollow bubble gum scientific argument is useless when your underlying message is that we are INCAPABLE of regulating ourselves and therefore can only trust our choices to an overpowering CENTRALIZED government which tells us how to live, what to eat, how to marry, when to give all our money to them, and allow them to force their tyrrany over us because “regulation is the way of the universe, dude!” You are obviously brainwashed, man. Choose your tyrant. Lick his boots. Don’t come running to those who warned you when you become the next collared dog. Seriously wtf.
Cherokee Citizen
August 27th, 2011
8:35 pm
Just came back from the Fish Fry. Was not impressed by the Ron Paulbots.
While the behaved themselves inside the building, the still looked like a bunch of college
kids who never ran a business and had mommy Ron pay their ticket.
I discount every Paul vote. The national polls do not support the straw votes;
no matter how much the Paulbots cry about it.
honested
August 27th, 2011
8:36 pm
marc,
News flash, we don’t have a creator and the Constitution does not reference any imaginary friends.
I am entirely familiar of the Revolutionary Period and the various viewpoints expressed by it’s authors (you may want to pay a little more attention to Thomas Paine). I am also familiar with the vacuous nonsense proffered by dr. paul’s hero, ayn rand. I don’t buy it.
The only real goal of the libertoonians is to figure out a method to wiggle out from under the cost of Civilization and paying for it through taxation. If it made sense, it would be accepted. Instead, it is nothing but a carefully crafted set of excuses that might work in a group of 50 people but loses function in greater numbers.
I wake up every morning and look at the daily reports on the clown car circus and I do say, seriously wtf.
honested
August 27th, 2011
8:37 pm
Cherokee,
Was Cole Slaw on the ballot at the fish fry?
Marc
August 27th, 2011
8:45 pm
oh I get it. You two are neocons who believe in the whole “survival of the fittest” and “Please induct us into the evil club of overlords glee club.” Newsflash fellas. YOU will be crushed under the boots of your elected leaders as well. Like I said, don’t come crying to us when you have nothing. When you cast your lot beside traitors, you are a traitor too. Remember that. You won’t keep the message of freedom down, so keep fawning over your evil overlords you atheist idiots.
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
8:47 pm
Mila @ 7:40 pm:
Thank you for your response. The responses I got have given me something to consider.
honested
August 27th, 2011
8:49 pm
marc,
You so clearly explain why your minority viewpoint is not now and will never grow in acceptance.
Counseling might help.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
8:54 pm
Anyone else not interested in licking the boots of those who would see our freedoms removed and our once free nation destroyed, research Ron Paul in his own words. He has plenty of books and videos out there, and know that people like honested and his cronies will never be honest with you because they haven’t spent one minute really researching Paul, they just claim to. The only way you will get the true views of a candidate is from his own mouth, and not from fools like we see here. RON PAUL 2012.
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
8:58 pm
homested:
“News flash, we don’t have a creator and the Constitution does not reference any imaginary friends.”
Far be it from me to question your expertise on the “Revolutionary Period”, but ar least one minor document did mention the Creator. I’m sure you recall these words from the Declaration of Independence, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” My guess is that not ALL the signers were atheists.
Clay
August 27th, 2011
8:58 pm
Go Dr. Paul! This is great news.
honested
August 27th, 2011
8:59 pm
marc,
I almost joined the libertoonians back in the late ’70s, until I realized all they really wanted was to figure out how to weasel out of paying taxes.
Paul may make a few of the lost feel better, but he has no plans of how to correct for the MIC created mess we are in today.
If he were to step forward and point out that immediate increase in taxes was required and those taxes would obviously have to be balanced toward the top, I would accept he had a clue. But I won’t hold my breath.
honested
August 27th, 2011
9:02 pm
last,
Yes it was in the Declaration. No it was not in the Constitution.
Which one is the basis for American Law?
And btw, many of the signers of both documents were not believers.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
9:06 pm
Seriously. The taxes aren’t what’s causing the problem. It’s the SPENDING and the BORROWING to the FED. The bank needs money, the FED prints the money, and charges the UNITED STATES the interest, and gets rich off of the uncontrolled spending. ADD to that the unmitigated greed and diversion of money into every which way all ending up in someone’s pockets and absolutely NO consequences upon them and you have our current problem. Raise taxes? really? Why not instead STOP STEALING from US!!!! Maybe THAT might be a BETTER IDEA??? You HAVENT read anything from Paul I bet. You don’t seem to know what he thinks at all…
Marc
August 27th, 2011
9:11 pm
On your money. Yeah. The dollar? You know, the one that is worth about 4 cents now because of the FED and their schemes and our weak, treasonous politicians? On THAT VERY DOLLAR, it says what? In GOD WE TRUST? You being an atheist doesn’t actually bother me in the least, honestly. It’s your disregard for your own freedoms and the very real threat to them that you just don’t see. That alarms me. I can’t believe that so many people just can’t see what’s happening right in front of their faces, and like so many that were bitterly disappointed by Obama, will be again because all the others who are running for president (Ron excluded) ARE puppets for the elite interests, and might as well BE coleslaw as you mentioned.
Simple logic
August 27th, 2011
9:13 pm
You can’t go anywhere hardly, without being on a camera. Where’s a picture of the plane that hit the pentagon?
Marc
August 27th, 2011
9:19 pm
By the way CAIN is not a Tea Party Favorite. He’s a FED puppet and is the antithesis of the things the Tea Party CLAIMS to be against. Of course, the Tea Party of today is not the Tea Party of yesterday, and with so many of the puppets lying about their positions, pretending to have INVENTED the freedom movement, it’s hard to tell anything anymore. Bachmann worked for the IRS in order to SPY on them and FIGHT them? Give me a break. Cain and Perry and the rest are the same though. The way you know they are lying is their lips are moving. CAIN IS NOT A TEA PARTY FAVORITE! HE IS ANTI-TEA PARTY. Stop trying to insinuate and connect him to the freedom movement! He’s about slavery to the FED, and that is it!
Marc
August 27th, 2011
9:22 pm
Simple logic the videos are for THEIR purposes, not OURS. We get only what they SAY we get and then we better SMILE at them and STFU. That’s how a police state works. We are supposed to be turning on each other, like the department of homeland security ordered us to. Rat on your neighbor for cutting his grass too short. If he leaves a backpack on his driveway, call the bomb squad and have his home blown up. THAT is what AMERICA is REALLY ABOUT, baby! So says our government!
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
9:22 pm
Marc:
“The taxes aren’t what’s causing the problem. It’s the SPENDING and the BORROWING to the FED”
I agree completely, and have been saying it for a long time! The fact that we currency backed by NOTHING is no help either. To my knowledge, quantatative easing has never proven successful where it has been attempted. This infusion of worthless currency into the economy can have no good result.
nader paul kucinich gravel mckinney baldwin ventura sheehan
August 27th, 2011
9:22 pm
same modus operandi as Iowa: “photo-finish loss”
Andrew
August 27th, 2011
9:23 pm
Before anyone gets excited – Cain and Paul topped the list at Perry because grassroots organizers in both campaigns chartered busses to bring in supporters and purchased extra tickets (there is no mechanism to prevent multiple votes at Perry like there is at Ames). Straw polls are already terribly unscientific, but to the extent that they’ve been manipulated for the last two elections… they’re really just high school popularity contests.
clean up your yard
August 27th, 2011
9:24 pm
Cain will not get 10 percent of the primary vote- if he is still in it by then.
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
9:25 pm
Simple logic:
“Where’s a picture of the plane that hit the pentagon?”
Now, there is a really good question!
Andrea Dantzer
August 27th, 2011
9:29 pm
Ron Paul’ 6 point plan to end immigration:
Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.
If we would have listened to Ron Paul we would have gotten bin Laden in 2003 – he correctly predicted he was in Pakistan (there is a vid clip on youtube of him saying this on the house floor) and suggested that we do it differently – targeting him in small-scale attacks, not invade and occupy Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11 – his plan would have been effective, saved TRILLIONS of dollars and THOUSANDS of innocent lives. He also voted YES to go to Afghanistan because he believed it was justified.
Ron Paul’s economic plan is explained below, in part, but that really encompasses every category to understand the full scope of it, but this will give you a good idea:
http://www.downsizedc.org/etp/honest-money/ .
Other things to know about Ron Paul:
He has NEVER voted to raise taxes.
He has NEVER voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has NEVER voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has NEVER voted to raise congressional pay.
He has NEVER taken a government-paid junket.
He has NEVER voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted AGAINST the Patriot Act.
He voted AGAINST regulating the Internet.
He voted AGAINST the Iraq war.
He DOES NOT participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
9:33 pm
Andrea you so rock. I am reposting that to my FB sister!
honested
August 27th, 2011
9:33 pm
Andrew,
I wonder how much these pointless ’straw polls’ increase the total cost of elections and along the way distort the overall process.
Iowa meant nothing as bachmann has probably received all the votes she will get.
This nonsense in Perry is about as important as purdue’s annual quail hunt. A lot of chest thumping and dixie-whistling, but little attachment to who will be re-elected President.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
9:38 pm
betcha NONE of these other candidates can brag and compare voting records like that. NONE of them.
MrLiberty
August 27th, 2011
9:38 pm
3 votes, big deal. Considering the huge influence of the banking community, military industrial complex and other parasitical government fed industries in this state this is great news for the average citizen. Cain of course is just another pro-establishment type, former director of the KC Federal Reserve, and pro-empire candidate. That Ron Paul only lost by 3 votes shows that georgia republicans are finally coming around to understand the type of man that is needed to actually put forward the sound economic and foreign policy changes that will be needed to restore america. Great job Ron. You’ve got my family’s votes.
billxwilson
August 27th, 2011
9:44 pm
If Ron Paul finishes second in everyone else’s region of support, he’s sure to win !
I have gone in and out of being for and against Ron Paul many times. But each deeper exploration brought be back around again to wanting him in the White House……. I read the bills he submitted to Congress. Some troubled me, but I continued to hear him out all the way to see how all his pieces fit together…… NO candidate is going to be perfect. If they look perfect it’s a snow job, a public image, a pack of lies. Kennedy was on the level at times, Johnson was crap, Nixon evil and stupid, Bush same thing, all of ‘em a bunch of Bilderberg puppets. Obama is a pawn, but a good speaker…… No matter what, Ron Paul’s core tasks are farrrr better than the dems, and any other GOP, or any other candidate in my lifetime for that matter…. Let’s get RP in there and let him rock the boat. (it’s a sinkin’ ship anyway).
Marc
August 27th, 2011
9:50 pm
Bill: exactly
Last Man: Agreed totally, but how do you get people to see that? The media thought police and brainwashing machine is on full steam. People aren’t wanting to listen because the truth is overwhelmingly depressing. People are not going to choose to listen or wake up until the evil regime is already busting down their door to put dog collars on them and their kids.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
9:54 pm
Mr Liberty Let’s keep our fingers crossed!
honested
August 27th, 2011
10:04 pm
So right now, the back of the pack is held down by ‘talk radio’ and ‘no accomplishment’.
Heck of a way to run a government, into the ground.
Luckily, it has nothing to do with our next election.
Hiram
August 27th, 2011
10:07 pm
Ron Paul is a Republican Congressman. Why does the media always say that he is Libertarian? Is this deliberate disinformation?
Linda
August 27th, 2011
10:09 pm
Ron Paul 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!
DannyX
August 27th, 2011
10:10 pm
Other things to know about Ron Paul:
Between 1999 and 2009 federal spending in his Galveston district quadrupled to more than $4 billion.
In 2009, the county received $14,707 per resident. Paul earmarked $60 million for projects in Galveston that year.
Paul is a career politician that can bring home the bacon.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
10:11 pm
no honested as it turns out is ironically DIShonest, but mostly with himself. De-nial is not just a river!
eatmotacos
August 27th, 2011
10:17 pm
Neither Obama, nor the chosen Republican candidate will give a rip about Georgia’s voters. You are completely wasting your brain waves if you are debating presidential politics, and you’re registered to vote in Georgia. If you want to be heard where it matters, you should be posting in Florida Newspapers, a must win state for either candidate.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
10:18 pm
Ron Paul votes against all the spending bills, but in the amendment stage tries to get as much back for his congressional district out of the total that is already set to be spent, as possible. It NEVER buys his vote for the underlying bill, because he NEVER votes for the underlying bill. Once a bill is passed as law of the land and money is committed, he does make sure the government spends it on the people who need it, and goes to bat for his constituents.
One commentator on a news program said ‘what if you are President and they won’t abolish the departments like you want, wont abolish these programs’ and he said, well at least a better manager could run them more effectively and efficiently. He is both ideologically correct, AND is that better, more representative, manager.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
10:20 pm
Nice try to misinform and spin Danny. You would make a great media puppet- but you ARENT going to find REAL dirt on Ron. SUCKA.
honested
August 27th, 2011
10:21 pm
mark,
Paul may stomp his little feet and ‘vote against all spending bills’ but he and his district still take the money (and have for a generation).
The truth is much more interesting than the hollow nonsense.
But it doesn’t matter, since 1% won’t win a primary or an election.
DannyX
August 27th, 2011
10:21 pm
“Nice try to misinform and spin Danny. You would make a great media puppet- but you ARENT going to find REAL dirt on Ron. SUCKA.”
Great comeback. Wow.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
10:22 pm
Galveston was hit by hurricane Rita and Ron was getting money which was already going to get spent back to his constituents to rebuild. No. He wasn’t trying to “earmark” for dastardly purposes. what a joke.
Marc
August 27th, 2011
10:24 pm
OH yeah because it’s so evil to have the people in the disaster zone of hurricane RITA some help instead of letting the other politicians buy golden toiletbowls for their luxury jets. Yeah. Keep up the great work, inspector gadget!