Karl Rove’s strategy comes to Georgia
As you probably know, with his independent expenditure tactics through the group American Crossroads, Republican strategist (and Sarah Palin pincushion) Karl Rove has injected a new force into American politics.
Unlimited amounts of money can rally to a candidate or cause – as long as there is no direct cooperation or communication with said campaign. Kind of like allowing a NASCAR driver to draft behind a vehicle on the track that’s not subject to any of the rules.
Until this summer, use of the independent expenditure has been limited to statewide and federal races. Not anymore.
In today’s Macon Telegraph, Erick Erickson of Redstate.com reveals that such a group was behind the victory of incumbent Robert Reichert in the Macon mayor’s last week, as well as Miriam Paris’ trouncing of former state Rep. David Lucas in a state Senate race. Both are Democrats.
To Erickson’s point:
A bipartisan group came together quietly. Having aided and abetted the Lucas’ and others in the past, this bipartisan group knew, based on the outcome of the SPLOST and various other factors, that it was time. They formed “Move Macon Forward.”
It is an independent political action committee that supported Robert Reichert for mayor of Macon and Miriam Paris for state Senate. Along with Georgia’s WIN List for Miriam Paris, it brought together assorted factions who’d never be on the same team for state or national politics, but at the municipal level, well, as the legendary U.S. House Speaker Tip O’Neil once said, “All politics is local.”
Party did not matter. All that mattered was taking the leap to get Macon past multiple decades of gutter politics.
For the first time, operating completely independently from campaigns in Middle Georgia, Move Macon Forward made a series of targeted, calculated independent expenditures to turn out voters. After the initial shock of the primary election, Move Macon Forward sprang into action mobilizing voters early, by absentee and any other way they could.
I’m told the group mobilized with the help of Mitch Hunter of COMM 360, a Republican and former chief of staff to Rep. Phil Gingrey and Democratic consultant Chris Carpenter of Peachtree Battle Group, Roy Barnes’s campaign manager for the 2010 election and the Democratic consultant who’ll help lead the Georgia Chamber of Commerce’s efforts for the regional transportation SPLOST fight.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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SpaceyG on Twitter
August 26th, 2011
3:29 pm
Yes, but what does it all mean… to Erick?
Bootnewt
August 26th, 2011
3:32 pm
Can’t wait to see how Rove’s group tries to eviscerate Gov. Perry’s campaign for the GOP nomination.
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Red
August 26th, 2011
4:05 pm
Political Insider has now become Erickson’s own little PR firm. And FYI….Rove’s already injected himself in GA politics before and gave us our beloved Saxby Chambliss. Such high quality results.
Tiberius
August 26th, 2011
4:08 pm
Doesn’t this just confirm Ellis’ charge, that I believe Erickson et al. dismissed, that GOP or outside-Macon $$ was being used against him (them)?
Rick Patel
August 26th, 2011
4:11 pm
Like paunchy, puffy, poisonous amphibian Karl Rove, Erick Erickson is an Establishment Republican hack and a useless bag of gas. You can’t believe a word either of them says.
Bubba
August 26th, 2011
4:14 pm
Love Rover or hate him, this time the outcome was right. Reichert is what Macon needs.
TRUTH
August 26th, 2011
4:22 pm
We are NOT surprised….
dixiesdemons
August 26th, 2011
4:31 pm
The Political Action Committees (PACS) are going to drive the final nails in the coffin our country has climbed into. People that don’t live in your community, can’t register to vote in your state, pay no taxes in your state, have no children in the school systems influence who you vote for on the LOCAL level . Pied Piper Politics. Dumb a$$ rats marching in lock step to their deaths.
alan
August 26th, 2011
4:36 pm
hate your fellow man ,
thats the american way
Latiqwenicia
August 26th, 2011
4:48 pm
Remember George W. Bush’s nickname for his buddy Karl Rove? “T*rd blossom”. Rarely has a handle fit someone so well.
handitty
August 26th, 2011
4:57 pm
Karl Rove is a hack. Fat boy needs to get a real job like Obama.
Johns Creek Outsider
August 26th, 2011
5:04 pm
Erick Erikson is a hack. Why anyone thinks he as any credibility, I don’t understand.
honested
August 26th, 2011
5:46 pm
While I am no fan of erickson or his brand of self-assured, backward looking nonsense, I would ask everyone to reread the post….
IT WASN’T ROVE, IT WAS THE TACTIC USED TO FINANCE THE CAMPAIGN.
If money is used to sway people who are otherwise not paying attention, morons may find their way into office (think 2001-2008 in the White House).
But even the blatant lack of ethics and questionable funding are not really news in this State.
tiredofIT
August 26th, 2011
5:47 pm
Public Campaign Financing Now!
jd
August 26th, 2011
5:48 pm
This could be the death of both parties… hmm… I like that!
honested
August 26th, 2011
5:49 pm
tired,
Agreed, but somehow the roberts Court doesn’t see the need to protect the REAL speech of Citizens and prefers the artificial speech of dollars.
markie mark
August 26th, 2011
5:56 pm
If money is used to sway people who are otherwise not paying attention, morons may find their way into office (think 2009-present in the White House). There….fixed your typo.
Buymadeinusjobs
August 26th, 2011
5:56 pm
I believe state and local elections should be financed by people in each state only but the people will have to do it themselves with a citizens’ referendum/law. Unfortunately. the masters who buy the seats for the politicans will expect them to obey. Their lobbyist will write the laws for their benefits.
Virginia
August 26th, 2011
5:57 pm
Wo,wo,wo there Sparky…..what we NEED in Georgia is money, guns and bank loans! We don’t need no more mouths to feed. We WANT banks to loan money for our MORTGAGES! That’s right, we want them to LOWER our interest payments! Remember that promise? This way, we’d have more money to spend to BUY stuff and keep our economy going! Now, take your hungry little man there back home, and send us M-O-N-E-Y (via lower mortgages, cause cuz, they WON’T loan us the money) either our income is too low (go figure) OR our credit score got hit (due to economic set backs). What? Am I the ONLY one thinking out here? *gesh, get a clue.
honested
August 26th, 2011
5:58 pm
markie,
cute and sophomoric, but who broke the world and sacrificed several thousand of our youth to settle a family dispute?
(Hint, it wasn’t a former Senator from Illinois.)
Alabama Communist
August 26th, 2011
6:00 pm
More Breaking News On Karl Rove Seizing Macon and surrounding Areas….A source within the Moving Macon Backwards into the 17 th century said today that Rove will be the next secret ruler in Middle Georgia in order to teach the Republicans who is in really charge of the Planet and will decide where the Capital of his republican corporate Paradise will be..
red light redistrict
August 26th, 2011
6:33 pm
I think we should out Valerie Plame again. Rove is a traitor who belongs behind bars.
elizabeth
August 26th, 2011
6:41 pm
Erickson is full of baloney. Reichert won because there was a massive anti-Ellis turnout in certain districts. This grroup called my house after we had voted. Erick is always all about Erick. If anything he hurt Rechert with his unnecessarily inflamatory columns. He and Elaine Lucas are two sides of the same coin, stirring everyone up to further their own power. And this self- aggrandizing article will just make Reichert’s job harder by making it look like this victory was partially due to him. Erickson does not care about Bibb county, he moved out of it. He is just stepping on our faces in his climb to the top.
nevaH
August 26th, 2011
7:02 pm
If money is used to sway people who are otherwise not paying attention, morons may find their way into office (think 1960-present in the White House). There….fixed YOUR typo.
Last Man Standing
August 26th, 2011
7:31 pm
Living near and frequently visiting Macon, I agree with Bubba that the outcome was best for Macon. If C, Jack Ellis had been re-elected, he would have finished the job of killing Macon. I’m still amazed that Ellis isn’t in a federal prison now.
Love him or hate him, Rove is very effective at what he does. I guess that he is appreciated by the candidates he supports, and despised by those he helps to defeat. It is simply the nature of politics.
gm
August 26th, 2011
7:35 pm
I wonder will we Karl, Rush, Hannity leave their desk and help the tea party idiots after Irene.
Oh wait, it will most likely be government workers who these hypocrites bash day in and day out.
Tea party idiots might as well wear a stupid hat”’
Last Man Standing
August 26th, 2011
7:36 pm
nevaH:
I like your style!
Last Man Standing
August 26th, 2011
7:39 pm
I just LOVE the Tea Party! They are true patriots, one and all!
gm
August 26th, 2011
7:41 pm
I wonder if Karly, Rush, Hannity will be out there on the front lines helping the tea party idiots after Irene?
Oh wait, it will be gov workers and the President, wow the one who these idiots say we have no need for
Alex
August 26th, 2011
8:11 pm
Factions (see Federalist 10)
People should elect leaders. Corporations and Factions should not. But live with it and be patient.
Last Man Standing
August 26th, 2011
8:14 pm
The President is unavailable. He is seeing to it that Michelle gets her taxpayer paid vacation at Martha’s Vineyard. The President has called on us to sacrifice in this time of very high unemployment, but I am happy that he found the taxpayers funds available to afford this lavish vacation.
tiredofIT
August 26th, 2011
8:41 pm
Public Campaign Financing and running for office starts 60 days before voting.
tiredofIT
August 26th, 2011
8:41 pm
Public Campaign Financing and running for office starts 60 days before voting.
clean up your yard
August 26th, 2011
9:17 pm
Last Man Standing
If he took a vacation for the rest of this term he would not catch little georgie who set a world’s record for vacation days
Black Conservative
August 26th, 2011
10:15 pm
Hey Last Man Standing – your boy Bush went to a fundraiser while ignoring NO was under water with Katrina.
Do you think that the founding fathers would have applauded Rove? These kinds of near-corrupt activites are killing our democracy.
Alex
August 26th, 2011
10:39 pm
First let me say that I want a president to keeps his batteries charged. Bush used CD more than any other president. When he wasn’t there, he was on his Tx ranch with the whole entourage. BUT I don’t begrudge him that. Or the current president. To even mention it is a distraction and I am embarrassed for having done so. I have no doubt the last president and the current one are in tune with what\s going on.
The whole “let’s get personal about the politicians we don’t like” is juvenile. Agree with them or don’t. But if you are a patriot you will respect their office. It the President – of the greatest political experiment in history. If you hated him (meaning the last or the present officeholder) from the day he took office because you didn’t support him, go bowling and stop voting.
Madison
August 26th, 2011
10:44 pm
Federalist 10:
There are two methods of curing the mischiefs of faction: the one, by removing its causes; the other, by controlling its effects.
There are again two methods of removing the causes of faction: the one, by destroying the liberty which is essential to its existence; the other, by giving to every citizen the same opinions, the same passions, and the same interests.
The two great points of difference between a democracy and a republic are: first, the delegation of the government, in the latter, to a small number of citizens elected by the rest; secondly, the greater number of citizens, and greater sphere of country, over which the latter may be extended
excerpts from James Madison’s Federalist 10
obama
August 27th, 2011
1:41 am
I is on vacation.
Mr. Potato Head
August 27th, 2011
4:44 am
Rove is a political corpse this election cycle. Sure he can throw some money at someone, but no one wants to hire him for his/her campaign. So, he plays the Fox News contributor while trying to manipulate the candidates by boxing them in to making an announcement (as in the case of Palin).
Rove is a party establishment guy at a time when voters are anti-establishment. For example, only Romney and Huntsman can be considered establishment. The others are largely conservative-Tea Party. The establishment guys combined probably share 30 percent of the polling. The rest is largely conservative-Tea Party.
In essence, Rove is an over weight duck and this race is amongst eagles.
Michelle Obama
August 27th, 2011
4:54 am
I just want to thank all of you for the taxpayer money you are contributing to mine vacation addiction. So far I’ve had the pleasure of spending $10M traveling to exotic places and drinking Maritinis with some really choice vodka as well as expensive sparkling wine…yum
Although there are said to be large unemployment lines, rest assured that I have saved or created jobs in fashion design, servants, and baggage handlers. So, I’m doing my part…erp
Buckhead Boy
August 27th, 2011
5:19 am
I see nothing wrong with natural or even non-natural persons acting individually or severally to influence political outcomes so long as we can know who they are, individually as well as severally, and their individual extent of involvement in the effort. Money, like water, is viscous. It will always find its way; and cannot be effectively restricted. Transparency, however, can be achieved, if there is the will. Those who want to operate in the dark are few, and we are many.
Travis McGee
August 27th, 2011
6:02 am
@Last Man Standing — Please put to rest that worn out notion regarding presidential vacations particularly since your man President Bush set the record with over 900 vacation days whether at Camp David, the ranch in Crawford or the family estate in Maine — three years of his eight years in office he was on vacation. Check it out.
Please, you make yourself look uninformed when you criticize Obama for going on vacation when anyone with an IQ of 30 knows that the president is always in touch and working regardless of where he is physically located.
Now, regarding the PACS. They say money is the mother’s milk of politics, but it has curdled due to the new rules in place and particularly the ruling of the SCOTUS. Shameful!
Smoke
August 27th, 2011
6:22 am
So the GOP helped a seasoned Roosevelt Democrat defeat an older seasoned Roosevelt Democrat, and this is suppose to be news? Oh yeah MO, you can’t document any costs or choice of beverage of the First Lady, but it is a fact that Paul Ryan pretended that didn’t know he was guzzling down $350 bottles of wine while dining with lobbyists?
Smoke
August 27th, 2011
6:27 am
Michele Obama, I understand that your non-government income puts your family in the top 2% income bracket, so if you decide to vacation and dine like other 2%er do, let those who extended your tax cuts rejoice that you are creating jobs and spending your money as you see fit.
DeborahinAthens
August 27th, 2011
6:59 am
You want your blood to run cold, read a great book, “Bush’s Brain” . All about the monster that is Rove. That this horror of a man has his nasty fingers in the pie at all makes me want to vomit. Outcomes of elections should not go to the one with the most money. And, yeah, Saxby Chambliss that wonderful guy that bows to the corporations in this country won because Rove and his bunch defiled and slandered a good man. Rove is a sick ba&@!?d. But the ill informed and easily manipulated Republicans in this state will follow him down any road.
pete
August 27th, 2011
7:04 am
more nazis for georgia !
what??......
August 27th, 2011
8:55 am
what? you guys are talking about something OTP!!! i thought you atlanta folks believed that once you pass 285 all oxygen disappears and life as you know it no longer exists
Willis
August 27th, 2011
8:57 am
Does Rove really need a “strategy” in Georgia? All a candidate has to do to get elected in most of the state is put an (R) behind the name.
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
9:39 am
Sandra:
“Michele Obama, I understand that your non-government income puts your family in the top 2% income bracket,”
Get a clue! Michele isn’t paying for the vacations. The American taxpayers are on the hook for those very expensive vacations she so enjoys.
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
9:47 am
Black Conservative:
Travis McGee:
GWB was not my “boy”. You missed my point with regards to the vacation(s). At a time when everyone is ‘tightening their belt’, the taxpayers are footing the bills for these lavish vacations. $14.6 trillion in debt with a projected #1.7 deficit this year would appear to call for austerity.
I was not defending nor defaming Rove. I merely stated an observation.
double
August 27th, 2011
9:49 am
Some people are plain greedy.Mostly jealous.If the president decides to take a vacation that is his business and his alone.Does he tell you when ,where to vacate.You decide how to spend your money, army retirement,ss etc,I’m sure we have more important issues than Michele having some vacation time with her husband.Totally Envious Arrogant P—-.
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
10:02 am
double:
“Some people are plain greedy.Mostly jealous.If the president decides to take a vacation that is his business and his alone.”
I’m going to type this slowly that you can read it. The President’s vacations are MY business, and they are YOUR business. These vacations are the business of every TASPAYER because WE PAY FOR THEM! The money does not come of Barack’s pocket or Michele’s purse to pay for these vacations. The expense is paid for by US!
double
August 27th, 2011
10:16 am
Type slow as you wish.Sound like a hunt and peck person as is.This is part of his pay Perks if you will.He is doing same as all before him,and you want to whine.He could be in Europe,but he choose to stay,spend his money in USA.
Zwei Stein
August 27th, 2011
10:19 am
@Last Man Standing:
The President WORKS while he is on vacation. Wherever he goes, even on AF 1, he is on the job. And that’s too bad, because the man with the most work to do in the nation, with responsibility for all of us and our good, needs to “get away from it” occasionally, more than anyone else. BTW…try your research again regarding the paying for the vacation. You are giving out “HALF-TRUTHS.”
Cum Suma
August 27th, 2011
10:25 am
The President cut his so-called vacation short and returned yesterday, and after reading all he’s done since then, he probably worked through most of the night.
letsfly
August 27th, 2011
10:36 am
I have no problem with the Obama taking a vacation.They really are on the job 24/7. What I find so funny is Obama compalains about the rich. The “millionaires and billionairs” and how they are greedy etc. etc. And he turns around and goes for three years in a row to a place where the average american can only dream of going. He has a dislike for greedy rich people and look at where he goes. Just an observation
double
August 27th, 2011
10:37 am
A half truth from this partisan is a rarity.TEA-P lover.
ZweiStein
August 27th, 2011
10:43 am
@letsfly:
Yes, he does go to places most of us can’t afford to go to, but I think a lot of that is because of security considerations. I would think a vacation on the Verde River in Arizona would be relaxing, fun and very affordable – but security would be impossible.
Cum Suma
August 27th, 2011
10:45 am
@Zwei What’s the difference between a “half-truth” and a “half-lie?”
Cum Suma
August 27th, 2011
10:56 am
You know…I think that man is kept so busy defending himself against the constant onslaught of unwarranted character-assassination attempts, that it’s a miracle he gets anything done at all. Plus, the hate-filled, greedy institution that we call “Congress” does almost nothing to permit or help this President to do those things he was elected to do – or much of anything else, for that matter.
letsfly
August 27th, 2011
10:59 am
@ ZweiStein. I know security is a consideration but please remember the president travels all over the country AND the world. Trust me i think the secret service could make any place he chooses to vacation “secure”.They do it every day. My point I was trying to make is him always bad mouthing rich people and greedy corporations. And who does he choose to vacation with? greedy rich white people who own corporations. Its just something to ponder. I just find it odd
ZweiStein
August 27th, 2011
11:00 am
I’m not a fan of Rove because his brain was instrumental in the last regime’s success in the rape of the American people. However, having said that, I gotta tell you that I do respect the guy as probably the best political strategist out there. He is a hore, working for those that can pay him the most. We can’t hire him, because we don’t have the disposable $$$.
ZweiStein
August 27th, 2011
11:03 am
@letsfly: You do make a valid point.
JSH
August 27th, 2011
11:10 am
I hope Obama stays on vacation for the rest of his term. That way he might not screw up anything else. As far as Rowe, it’s a semifree country and he can do what he wishes. Somebody has to fight the fact that the Democrats block vote and by doing so has put Obama in office. The worst president in history.
ZweiStein
August 27th, 2011
11:29 am
JSH:
I don’t agree with your opinion, but at least you have one that you share with us.
Real Athens
August 27th, 2011
11:31 am
LMS:
Read this slowly:
We don’t pay for the dinner tab, personal expenses, etc. Being the President is a job that pays a salary. Even the food that the first family eats in their residence – not the state dinners, is paid for by the President. The lodgings for personal family vacations are paid for by the first family.
Clothing for the First Ladies are actually loaned or given to them by designers. Everyday wear they buy themselves- although I am sure they get a much better price than any of us could.
Transportation and security is a separate deal. We, the taxpayers, do foot the bill for that. Always have.
And yes, GWB was “your boy”. That is another fact you can’t change.
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
11:32 am
We all know that Obama’s association with the wicked rich people is all GWB’s fault. GWB made him do it!
Zwei Stein:
Perhaps you will elaborate on exactly what you have determined are “HALF-TRUTHS”?
Cum Suma:
“Plus, the hate-filled, greedy institution that we call “Congress” does almost nothing to permit or help this President to do those things he was elected to do”
Exactly what do you think he was elected to do? When he took office, he had a majority in the House and Senate. Only in January of this year did he lose control of the House – when the voters didn’t like what was happening and neutered him by giving control of the House to the opposition party.
ZweiStein
August 27th, 2011
11:37 am
Last Man: “Half-truth” is your statement regarding his vacations, “…we pay for them.”
To your question for Cum: I’d like to give you my response. You ever hear of the party of NO?
Cum Suma
August 27th, 2011
11:48 am
Last Man Standing…
Your a smart guy. I know that you know the answer to your questions as well as everyone else on this board. I’m not going to go into a two page dissertation to explain something that I know is common knowledge to all. [unless you are too stubborn in your ways and choose to block out all the nonsense we endured from the far right element in congress.]
nevaH
August 27th, 2011
11:48 am
@lms thanks.
until people realize that the two party system is actually one party intent on screwing those that pay the bills the US is in trouble.
Mebers of congress and the senate represent their interests first, then tell the sheep its in thier best interests.
Pud Wilkinson
August 27th, 2011
12:15 pm
The only joy I take in Perry’s rise is the thorn in the side he represents to the bush disaster dynasty….
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
1:23 pm
“The Hawaii Reporter”:
“Some of the cost estimates presented by the newspaper include the early trip to Hawaii for Mrs. Obama (who flew out before the president), at $63,000. There is President Obama’s round trip, estimated to cost $1 million. Local police need an extra quarter million for overtime costs and there is the $134,000 estimated cost of housing the president’s staff.”
Michele’s Spain vacation:
“The First Lady is spending the next few days in a five-star hotel on the chic Costa del Sol in southern Spain with 40 of her ‘closest friends,’” Tantaros writes, pointing to a CNN report that Michelle Obama and her group are expected to occupy 60 to 70 rooms. “Not exactly what one would call cutting back in troubled times.”
“The London Daily Mail”
“White House sources today claimed that the First Lady has spent $10 million of U.S. taxpayers’ money on vacations alone in the past year,” the paper reports.
Obama’s Vacation At Martha’s Vineyard Will Cost Taxpayers Millions
While Rome (the U.S.) burns (i.e. economy continues to tank), Nero (our dictator-in-chief) fiddles – and his latest fiddling is going to cost taxpayers milllions:
At a time when many more cash-strapped Americans are stuck at home instead of vacationing at the beach, President Obama next week will lead an entourage of several dozens to exclusive Martha’s Vineyard island at a cost of millions to taxpayers.
While technically he is paying for his estimated $50,000 a week rental of the 28-acre beachfront Blue Heron Farm in woodsy Chilmark, the dozens of U.S. Secret Service agents, communications officials, top aides, drivers, and U.S. Coast Guard personnel with him will be covered by taxpayers as with every other presidential vacation.
His 11-day stay will require the Coast Guard to keep ships floating near Obama’s farm, a presidential helicopter and jet at the ready and security agents on 24-hour duty. Armored SUVs dubbed “war wagons” have been flown in to carry the presidential family around the island. It was the same way when former President George H.W. Bush visited Kennebunkport, Maine and Bill Clinton visited Martha’s Vineyard during their presidencies.
The last sentence in the above excerpt — “It was the same way when former President George H.W. Bush visited Kennebunkport, Maine and Bill Clinton visited Martha’s Vineyard during their presidencies” — is a useless and totally unrelated caveat. During the Bush and Clinton presidencies unemployment wasn’t at 9.1 percent, the national debt wasn’t $14.6 trillion, and the nation hadn’t had its credit rating downgraded.
The USNews piece does go on to at least admit:
Obama’s vacation comes at an awkward time because of the economic turmoil roiling the nation and Wall Street. Surveys show that a growing number of Americans can’t afford even small vacations.
Madison
August 27th, 2011
1:39 pm
The Office of President of the United States of America is the most important job in the world. That it is so, should make Americans proud. There has never been a leader who had total support of his people or the world (except for the few months after 9/11). That there is such a vituperative attitude toward the President these days suggests that the long run of the US experiment is near the end. Unless we can disagree on policies and avoid descending into personal attacks on the President and his family (and I don’t mean vacations since presidents need and have always taken and been criticized for taking vacations) we’d better start thinking about which less desirable form of government we want to replace the constitutional republic.
Real Athens
August 27th, 2011
2:19 pm
Finally, LMS admits where he gets his out of context information to disseminate half truths:
The National Enquirer. Why did you leave that part out?
Check where the Daily Mail’s “white house sources” come from yourself. Read the “whole” article.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2029615/Michelle-Obama-accused-spending-10m-public-money-vacations.html
Check out the the “history” of The Daily Mail, it’s editorial stance, and the numerous libel-lawsuits it has lost and how the paper is viewed by other news outlets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Mail
LMS. If one thing can be said for you you’re predictable … and dishonest.
independent
August 27th, 2011
2:52 pm
these democrats…. the Obamas.. like the Clintons… preach class warfare… tax the upper 2%.. ( that leaves the lower 90% to vote for us )… hate the fat cats… what you stupid liberals can’t see… they use the office and tax payer money to on fancy trips… write books… make huge money for speaking engagments.. quietly end up being FAT CATS.. at our expense… at least republicans come into politics with their own money from private businesses….
DannyX
August 27th, 2011
3:01 pm
Some vacation, Obama visits FEMA command center, and Al-Qaida’s second-in-command is killed in Pakistan.
Bush waited forever to visit the Katrina FEMA command center where he read parts of his favorite book, “My Pet Goat.” Played a little guitar, then proclaimed “You’re doing a heck of a job Brownie!” Followed of course by, “Now watch this drive.”
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
3:14 pm
Madison:
Madison wrote, “That there is such a vituperative attitude toward the President these days suggests that the long run of the US experiment is near the end.” I agree that the “US Experiment is near the end”, but probably not for the reason you think.
If the founders of our country came back today, I believe they would be organizing a second American Revolution. We have strayed far from the government they crafted, and we have done so despite their warnings.
We, and all the preceding generations dating back to the American Revolution, were warned against a strong and all-powerful central government. The founders also warned of the consequences when people learned that they could enrich themselves from the national treasury.
America now has the federal government we were warned to avoid. Politicians buy votes by looting the treasury to fund entitlement programs, and that includes farm subsidies. We are rapidly approaching the point where 50% of America’s citizens will pay no income tax.
Elected officials did not create the government giveaway programs out of the goodness of their hearts. They knew that dependency upon the federal government would both determine the voting habits of those Americans, and allow the government to lessen the liberty of the citizens.
Madison stated, “we’d better start thinking about which less desirable form of government we want to replace the constitutional republic”. I don’t believe you and I will have to think about it. That decision probably will be made through force of arms.
DannyX
August 27th, 2011
3:31 pm
Lol! Republicans use there own money!
Chip Rogers and Tom Graves receive no collateral signature loans they know they can’t pay back. Sonny turns the governors office into his own private business venture. Oxendine extorts campaign money. Echols begs for lobby gifts. Nathan Deal entered the governors office bankrupt. Linda Schrenko stole money from a deaf fund. Nathan Deal is awarded no-bid government contracts. Fishy land deals. And of course “BECAUSE ITS FREE!!”
Frederick Douglass
August 27th, 2011
3:34 pm
LMS @ 3:14
If the “founders of our country came back today”, half of them would be wondering why Obama isn’t serving them drinks, and the other half would be lasciviously eyeing Michelle and the kids.
DannyX
August 27th, 2011
3:36 pm
LOL! Frederick
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
4:08 pm
Frederick Douglass:
“the other half would be lasciviously eyeing Michelle”
Only the half with very, very poor vision!
honested
August 27th, 2011
4:14 pm
DannyX
I guess the current GA republican leadership shares a great deal with ‘OZ’, in the ‘pay no attention to the man behind the curtain’ sort of way. It was time for Speaker Murphy to go, it was time to change governance to a transparent and honest manner, it was not time to just change the name tags on the crooks.
Fredrick, hilarious but nasty!
Real Athens
August 27th, 2011
4:18 pm
LMS @ 4:08 PM
There you go. That’s more like it; spoken like the true racist you’ve always shown yourself to be.
Frederick Douglass
August 27th, 2011
4:31 pm
LMS @ 4:08:
I guess its an ethnic thing, beacuse I think Mrs. Obama is beautiful, and most of the the brothers I know feel likewise. Conversely, Bachmann and Palin look like dish rags to me…….but that’s just me, whatever blows your dress up.
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
5:07 pm
Frederick Douglass:
I didn’t think it ethnic, but more a matter of personal preference. I know some very attractive black women, and have seen many more. She just doesn’t appeal to me, but then I doubt that I would be appealing to her!
Last Man Standing
August 27th, 2011
5:09 pm
Real Athens:
First, last and only post to you: you really are such a twit.
Real Athens
August 27th, 2011
5:57 pm
LMS: Only in your narrow mind and small world is bigotry shrugged off as “a matter of personal preference”.
You slay me.
Michelle Obama
August 28th, 2011
4:41 am
Dear Smoke:
You don’t seriously believe I would waste..err..spend my money do you?
I only wish I could visit you on the unemployment line to thank you for the taxes you paid, before you got the axe, in contributing to my top-shelf vodka. The Martinis were fabulous in Spain, Martha’s Vineyard, Africa, and all other exotic locations.
Why, I’d give you a spud for my White House garden…erp
Michelle Obama
August 28th, 2011
4:45 am
What I don’t understand is why Barack waited to the last day of vacay to stop the hurricane.
Madison
August 28th, 2011
11:59 am
Most of the delegates to the Constitutional Convention fought tooth for strong federal government. Hell, Alexander Hamilton’s plan was to abolish the states entirely. Federal powers are defined vaguely in the Constitution and states are specifically proscribed from doing many things.
Most of the Founding Fathers wanted a strong, central, Federal government. Because the Constitution had to be approved by the states, the Federal powers were watered down, but only enough to allow for ratification.
The purpose of the Philadelphia convention was to strengthen the federal government at the expense of the states. If the goal was true sovereignty for the states, the Articles of Confederation would have been just fine.
this part is borrowed from another blogger.
“It is impossible to take the more modern issues we discuss now and know what the Founders would have thought–the very nature of government in a general sense has changed since 1789. One of the things that gets ignored in debates like this is that there is simply a difference between governing a country in 1789 v. now (or, really, after the Industrial Revolution). If one doesn’t understand that there is a profound difference between governing an industrial/post-industrial country v. an agricultural one can’t make a cogent argument on these counts.”