Rob Woodall takes flak for debt-ceiling vote

U.S. Rep. Rob Woodall, the freshman Republican from Lawrenceville, ran into some flak last night over his vote to approve the debt-ceiling deal reached by Congress this month.

Woodall was one of three Georgians to vote “aye” – the others were U.S. Rep. Tom Price, R-Roswell, and Johnny Isakson.

From Blake Aued of the Athens Banner-Herald, who was at the town hall meeting:

Paul Leslie of Winder likened it to driving a bus off a cliff, then opening a parachute.

“Some things you can’t compromise on,” he said. “You can’t compromise with evil.”

Woodall, R-Lawrenceville, said he understands that viewpoint, but stood by his vote.

“I’m proud of that vote,” he told the crowd.

“We’re not,” one man called out.

Aued’s piece closes with this odd exchange:

Woodall defended global free trade, saying that it promotes U.S. exports. The strength of U.S. manufacturing is quality, and Americans should not try to compete on low wages with China and Mexico, he said.

More banking regulations aren’t needed, but the Justice Department should enforce the laws on the books, he said, prompting boos from the audience.

Woodall’s town hall experience underlines the wisdom of the joint appearances that U.S. Sens. Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson have been making across the state this month. They’ve got one planned for next Tuesday in Young Harris.

Chambliss voted against the debt plan. Isakson, as stated above, voted for it. So far, each senator has resisted the temptation to rip the lungs from the chest of his colleague – thus setting a moral example for audiences to follow, and furthering the cause of civil discourse.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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57 comments Add your comment

Peter May

August 23rd, 2011
5:23 pm

Rob finally gets one right and this is the thanks he gets? These people cannot think their way out of a paper bag. If we did not raise the debt ceiling, all heck would have broken out in financial markets worldwide. Reducing the debt ceiling is what one does AFTER one gets spending and revenues under control, not before. It’s like lowering the credit limit on a card AFTER you made the purchases. Now, in addition to having a large balance, you are also over your limit and will pay the price for that.

I’m sure Congressman Woodall had to hold his nose when he made it, but this was indeed a vote he can be proud of.

Centrist

August 23rd, 2011
5:27 pm

I went to the Ellijay town hall meeting this morning where U.S. Senators Isakson and Chambliss spoke and took about a dozen questions. Every single question was pointed at how the current debt and deficit spending was/is caused by BOTH political parties. Lots of lip service from the Senators about no more earmarks, the increase in borrowing deal will be met with dollar for dollar spending cuts, and support for the FairTax, but nobody seemed to believe them. It was a mostly polite crowd, but their applause at pointed questions/ comments and obvious distrust put both Senators on the defensive.

Will

August 23rd, 2011
5:29 pm

The republican/tax party revolutionaries who demand “purity of thought” from their candidates are going to drive swing voters to the democrats.

On the presidential level, a pragmatic businessman like Mitt Romney, Mitch Daniels, or John Huntsman will win the 2012 presidency.

Republican/tea party revolutionaries such like Perry, Bachmann, Cain and Santorium will hand the election to the President.

Republican/tea party revolutionaries say you can’t compromise and they will certainly be right – losers will not be in the position to compromise with anyone!

Deb A

August 23rd, 2011
5:33 pm

“You can’t compromise with evil?” Seriously, this is the mindset of these people? Obama is “evil”? I mean, I can understanding not liking the man, but evil? Jeeze, I wasn’t a fan of Bush and thought his policies were terrible, but I didn’t think he was evil. It was debt deal, not whether or not their were shipping off carloads of kids to be slaughtered. This is why this country is where it is. And yes, I know this mindset exists on the left as well, and I hate it just as much then too.

findog

August 23rd, 2011
5:44 pm

Gee Centrist I think I read that exact same quote a couple weeks ago, got an original thought?

Clinton "Skink" Tyree

August 23rd, 2011
6:07 pm

Some folks, hiding behind their Tea Party ideology, hate Obama so much — for whatever reason and some would say the color of his skin — they hate Obama so much they are willing to drive the ship of state into a sandbar and create untold misery for the citizens of the United States just to make a political point.

Politics has been defined as “the art of compromise.” But when some ol’ boy thinks this is unacceptable and that those with whom the compromise would be made are evil — well, that has gridlock all over it and sorry scenario at the end.

How can one conduct business when one party insists on having their way, but they don’t have the capacity to carry it out because the opposing party controls one of the Houses of Congress.

It’s just this kind of intrangicence and extremist that will cause many to run in the opposite direction come 2012.

Laronnica

August 23rd, 2011
6:10 pm

Woodall is on his way to being a one term Congressman unless he gets his sh## together fast. I voted for him but he angered a lot of people when he voted right outta the gate to continue federal government funding of NPR, the only GA GOP House delegation member to do so lest we forget.

Never really liked his boss Linder either, but at least John had some brains. This guy seems clueless.

Serious Robuck

August 23rd, 2011
6:31 pm

Dear Laronnica,

Woodall is clueless, and so are you, hon.

Bob

August 23rd, 2011
6:49 pm

Woodall is a good man. He needs to learn a little though. Do not follow Johnny and Saxby. Be a conservative and you will always be a winner. Should have let the debt ceiling hit the….ceiling. Nothing was going to blow up like some predicted. It was all a joke.

Smoke

August 23rd, 2011
7:09 pm

Boehner said he got 98% of what he wanted, but Woodall kept him from finding out what that other 2% would have done. Watching southern conservatives reminds me of the towns people and the mayor in the movie “Jaws.”

Michael

August 23rd, 2011
7:43 pm

The “evil” statement just shows people are whipped up into a frenzy over things they frankly know little about. And they say these things in public. And they go home and mumble and rant about it. Wonder if they vote?

Smoke

August 23rd, 2011
7:46 pm

The “Buckhead Crowd” wanted GOP representation? As if they didn’t have it already. So called southern conservatives, ya’ll have been had again.

Cutty

August 23rd, 2011
7:57 pm

I would’ve loved to see the look on the face of those complaining about voting to increase the debt ceiling when the interest rates on their car, credit card, and home loans shot up overnight.

Smoke

August 23rd, 2011
7:58 pm

I just heard a liberal say that whites have 20 times the wealth of blacks. In Georgia, if you take out the Buckhead and rural country club crowd, the rest of the whites are in just as bad a shape as black, but as history has shown, southern conservative whites pretend it is not true. Southern conservatives can’t handle the truth.

Bemused

August 23rd, 2011
7:59 pm

An officer famously said about a village in Vietnam, “We destroyed it in order to save it.” So, too, the Tea Party with the economy viz. the debt ceiling vote. It is one thing for these fat, dim, old white guys to frolic in three-cornered hats pretending they are Thomas Jefferson (!); it is quite another when their base ignornance of economics finds its way into government policy. Even a trained parrot can say “we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem” when the obvious truth is that we have both.

Smoke

August 23rd, 2011
8:01 pm

Great talk Jim on NPR.

double

August 23rd, 2011
8:17 pm

Ellijay must be important.Having town hall meetings often.

Ol' Timer

August 23rd, 2011
8:27 pm

The Klan was about to disappear until the Tea Party gave them a place to hang out!

Keith

August 23rd, 2011
8:27 pm

Woodall is a perfect example of why you should never elect a Washington insider to Congress.

d

August 23rd, 2011
9:14 pm

I’m actually coming to respect Congressman Woodall’s positions on a lot of issues…. just sucks that it looks like I’m being shifted into Hank Johnson’s district now. Not at all happy about that.

Big Hat

August 23rd, 2011
9:31 pm

Interesting thing about hating something too much; it can turn you into the very thing you hate so much, and you don’t even realize it.

td

August 23rd, 2011
9:35 pm

Bemused

August 23rd, 2011
7:59 pm

“Even a trained parrot can say “we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem” when the obvious truth is that we have both.”

Really, I saw a report that stated you can take every single dollar earned by the top 5% and it will not even balance the budget this year much less start paying down the debt.

td

August 23rd, 2011
9:38 pm

Ol’ Timer

August 23rd, 2011
8:27 pm
The Klan was about to disappear until the Tea Party gave them a place to hang out!

Just like those communist had disappeared until Obama was elected and then they came out of the woodwork and started working for the government.

ricardus

August 23rd, 2011
9:44 pm

I will have the last coherant words…TERM LIMITS! Their time has come.

double

August 23rd, 2011
10:12 pm

TD please name the communist,and their title,position for government.Thank you in advance

td

August 23rd, 2011
10:40 pm

double

August 23rd, 2011
10:12 pm

Any politician or government official that uses the following term: “Social Justice”, “Redistribution of wealth” or or implements policies that equalize outcomes. These are all right out of the communist manifesto. Now since I have given you your answer, please name some klan members in the Tea Party?

honested

August 23rd, 2011
11:22 pm

Poor rob woodall, a one trick pony who needs to find another Congressperson to work for and forward his inappropriately named ‘fair tax’.
Yes, linder wrote the book (between drinks) with that hack talk show guy, but the lame text of the bill is woodall’s (which is why it has not even had a committee hearing and never will).
So much for misguided tea bagger nonsense.
Rob, you a re Congressman now and you have to get busy and tend to your whole district.
Or be a one-term-one-hit wannabe and find a job selling insurance.

honested

August 23rd, 2011
11:23 pm

td,

You realize that Marx was always sad that his carefully constructed plans had been tried on Russians.
All they had ever shown the capability to be was servile, drunk and incompetent.

Much like today.

honested

August 23rd, 2011
11:24 pm

td,

I can’t help myself, your ignorance knows no bounds.

If you think that The President brought forth some huge rush of approval from the Left, you have absolutely no contact with reality.

You really need help.

double

August 24th, 2011
12:56 am

TD you answered nothing,your usual spin.I do not know any KKK.Now please answere my question.Or admit you know nothing. Just a fabricator.(being nice)

BitterEXdemocrackkk

August 24th, 2011
2:47 am

hey ‘double’…there are several avowed communists in the Oblunder Regime…Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, many others…got it now? Commies in the WHITE HOUSE.

Strive to be SMARTER than the EVIL VILE SLAVE DRIVIN DEMOCRACKKKS WANT YOU TO BE!

Buckhead Boy

August 24th, 2011
3:30 am

TD, most in my class favor redistribution of wealth, and they are being highly successful in its pursuit, thanks to supporters like you. Its just not the kind of redistribution of wealth that you think, being regressive rather than progressive. They could care less that our country is now ranked 64th in income disparity, right down there with Uganda, because they are benefiting personally. I think that they are wrong, though, not based on beliefs grounded in morality or ideology, but the practical. We are a consumption-based economy, and this regressive redistribution of wealth is already causing diminished consumption. Ultimately that is going to catch-up with us too, if supporters like you don’t first wise-up and come after us with pitchforks. Reading your posts comforts me that the pitchfork time is still a ways away, although I still despair for my country.

d

August 24th, 2011
5:40 am

@ricardus – the problem with term limits became overly clear with our last governor….. we get programs like “Go Fish” while our schools suffer funding cuts after funding cuts after more funding cuts….. but Sonny doesn’t have to care about that any more, he can go fish and ride horses down in his home county.

Tom E. Gunn

August 24th, 2011
6:02 am

There was NO OTHER vote to make. The people that voted ‘aye” are HEROES. Did anyone notice the WORLD almost crashed into DEPRESSION just because it went down to the wire? I don’t know this guy, but I would take 5 of him over tea drinking, bank robbing, slick Tom Graves. The fringe is trying to destroy the country and rebuild. Don’t buy into it!

Mr. KnowitAll

August 24th, 2011
6:25 am

Politicians should work with the other party up to matters of principle. However, spending more with the expectation of spending less is—sheer insanity. For crying out loud, this country is going down a debt hole so deep, it might not EVER be the America where we grew up.

On matters of principle—like the debt—Woodall has to HOLD THE LINE! HOLD THE FRIKKING LINE! If he doesn’t, we’ll get someone who will.

Capitol Idea

August 24th, 2011
7:03 am

“You can’t compromise with evil.” Really! Some of these townhall tools are now declaring themselves as fighting to protect us from the evil. That is so pathetic. When will they start singling out the witches amongst the attendees and subjecting them to the tests. How about “trial by fire”. That’s always a puritan crowd pleaser.

Willis

August 24th, 2011
8:00 am

Let’s ask our Georgia congressional delegation to introduce legislation for the following version of:

CUT – CAP – BALANCE
August 20, 2011
CUT
Congressional pay (Senators and Representatives) by 15%. This would reduce the current $174,000 annual salary to $147,900.
Congressional operating expenses by 18%. This would include travel and foreign junkets.
Congressional staff, including State and Washington, D.C. offices by 25%.
CAP
Congressional expenditures for all purposes at the 2010 level for the next five years.
Congressional committees and sub-committees at the current number.
Congressional health insurance costs so that each senator and congressman pays at least 50% of monthly premium.
BALANCE
Limit congressional service at 2 six-year terms for senators and 3 two-year terms for congressmen.
Levy fees for services provided through State congressional offices so that the offices are supported by the people who actually use the offices.
Collect rent payments from those representatives and senators who avoid renting or purchasing apartments, condos, or homes in the Washington, D.C. area and instead use their taxpayer provided official office space for their personal living quarters.

honested

August 24th, 2011
8:13 am

bitter,

The forensic process requires more than being accused by some moron on talk radio before being considered ‘guilty’.
You should read up on governmental systems and their implementation. Also, a little basic grammar might help.

honested

August 24th, 2011
8:16 am

willis,

Forget cut cap and balance.
Just restore sane revenue policies as were in place until late 2001.

Ol' Timer

August 24th, 2011
8:20 am

td — How about naming one of the communists you’re aware of that works for the Obama administration.

Or, is this just some more demagoguing, pseudo-McCarthyism?

ByteMe

August 24th, 2011
8:34 am

Really, I saw a report that stated you can take every single dollar earned by the top 5% and it will not even balance the budget this year much less start paying down the debt.

The report is wrong. The top 5% earn over $166K per year, which is a LOT of people and a lot of money.

But you could take half the total assets from the bottom 50% of the population and you would get about the same amount of money as repealing the Bush tax cuts on those earning over $250K. Think through that one for a while if you can.

BigHittas

August 24th, 2011
8:39 am

” I wasn’t a fan of Bush and thought his policies were terrible, but I didn’t think he was evil. It was debt deal, not whether or not their were shipping off carloads of kids to be slaughtered. This is why this country is where it is. And yes, I know this mindset exists on the left as well, and I hate it just as much then too.”

Deb A I agree. You left out that these kool aid drinkers are motivated by poison from profit taking talking heads like Limbaugh, Boortz, Ed, and the like. Most of these talking heads like to point out that Americans are stupid and need to be enlightened by them. The ironic truth is that they are somewhat correct. Anyone that seriously considers what they have to say IS stupid.

Travis McGee

August 24th, 2011
8:41 am

My sense is that Dick Armey and his Koch Bros. financed FreedomWorks is doing for these Town Hall meetings what he did for the Healthcare Reform Town Hall meetings — sent out instructions on how to disrupt, create anarchy and destroy any possibility for meaningful dialogue.

I’m hopeful that the GOTP primaries will reveal the true and radical nature of this movement and cause the folks to flee in the opposite direction.

But, in reality, it may be asking too much of the fringe movement to have an epiphany.

TSA on the way to second base

August 24th, 2011
8:45 am

sorry to disappoint all those tea party bashers but I actually voted for Obama, because i thought Bush and the republicans where going the wrong way with orders like PD 51.

I am an independent thinker and thought Obama was right on some issues; wow, was i wrong; and i have learned alot in the past couple of years

dont get me wrong the republican senators we have in GA are career politicians and dont think for a moment they are not schemers ; they have an end game; why do you think one of them wants to keep NCLB so bad; to completely ruin public education (he can talk rigor and standards all day, but 100% by 2014 . really…..)

with obama there is no ENERGY policy: which really could save our economy if we would drill and grow our energy sector… some ppl say we’re using our childrens resources but hell we’re spending their money like theres no tomorrow.

we are involved in 3 major conflicts (you cant say war; congress has not declared it)

war on drugs….. thats a laugh (middle school kids can walk down their street and buy a dime bag anytime)

obamacare…

sorry but the tea party message of smaller government falls in line with what the founding fathers had in mind

Washington said it best : “Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. “

TSA on the way to second base

August 24th, 2011
8:53 am

Alex

August 24th, 2011
8:55 am

” It’s like lowering the credit limit on a card AFTER you made the purchases. Now, in addition to having a large balance, you are also over your limit and will pay the price for that”
Well said, Mr. May. Playing chicken with the debt ceiling was the worst thing I think I’ve witnessed congress do in my long life.
As for those who think term limits solve the problem, it was the lack of institutional knowledge that led us to this brinksmanship. No, to term limits. We’ve had some great and long tenured statesmen through the years – from right here in GA. Richard Russell, Carl Vinson, Sam Nunn to name a few.
What we HAVE to do is stop voting for people who want it for the power and the money. In past times, reluctant leaders were convinced that their service was needed. (Think Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.) They took their duty seriously. It was a sacrifice for them to go.
We also have to change the idea that corporations can pour money into the coffers of our leaders.

jd

August 24th, 2011
9:05 am

The gentleman voter’s comments regarding evil are a find example of the kind of emotional radicalism Madison argued we should protect ourselves from. See Federalist #51 regarding the tyranny of the majority. A republic filters such unwise emotions. A democracy, does not.

Bill Orvis White

August 24th, 2011
9:12 am

I love the honorable Rep. Woodall. Yes, he’s wrong on this vote and it will be a red mark on his otherwise solid conservative record. But, he just needs to get back up the horse and gallop towards passing the common sense FAIR Tax. This fella needs to write his own book, go on tour and push the FAIR Tax towards passage.
Amen,
Bill

td

August 24th, 2011
9:14 am

Ol’ Timer

August 24th, 2011
8:20 am

Van Jones, Cass Sunstein are just two of many. The majority of the rest including Obama are European Socialist leaning towards communist. Why do you think the Communist party in the US supports Obama?

td

August 24th, 2011
9:23 am

Byteme:

Just take a look at the data from the IRS.

Table 1. Summary of Federal Individual Income Tax Data, 2008(Updated October 2010)

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html