Phil Gingrey swings to the ‘yes’ column on Boehner plan

A spokeswoman for U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, who has been a staunch opponent of the debt-ceiling proposal pitched by House Speaker John Boehner, just confirmed that the Marietta Republican has switched to the “yes” column – an important get for Boehner that could show itself in a vote later today.

Previously, the Boehner plan required a select House-Senate committee to propose a series of off-setting budget cuts before President Barack Obama could request a second increase in the debt-ceiling next year.

Gingrey was won over by the inclusion this morning of an additional requirement, mandating that Congress also send to the states for ratification a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced federal budget. Here’s his interview with Jamie Dupree of AM750 and 95.5FM Newstalk/WSB:

For those of you keeping score, that means six House Republicans from Georgia now support the Boehner plan. Two – Tom Graves of Ranger and Paul Broun of Athens – remain in opposition.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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Mr. KnowitAll

July 29th, 2011
1:49 pm

If Harry Reid and the empty suit, not to be found, impotent, POTUS do not accept this proposal, it should be withdrawn and Cut, Cap and Balance resubmitted as our final bottom line offer.

jd

July 29th, 2011
1:57 pm

But, Mr. Knowitall, Bush is no longer president.

rdb

July 29th, 2011
2:08 pm

jd,…sad to say, if he were, we would be at a different juncture at this point in time1 Would we not?

Stop Spending

July 29th, 2011
2:09 pm

If Gingrey votes for this he should put his place on the market. Stop Spending money we dont have.

Its just like your own finances – if you dont have money spending more isnt the answer.

Smoke

July 29th, 2011
2:11 pm

I swear. If Boehner’s bill contains a balanced budget amendment, it only confirms that Gingrey, etal have reading comprehension and math issues. So what does 287, 67, and 38 equal. What it takes for the House, Senate and State ro ratify an amendment.

Rural Education

July 29th, 2011
2:16 pm

A balanced budget amendment would guarantee tax raises. The Federal govt, unlike the states has too many potential emergencies to be hamstrung by this idiotic measure.

Smoke

July 29th, 2011
2:16 pm

Gingrey was against PAYGO that would have taken effect immediately, but is gungho about a BBA that would take years. Yep, those liberals are sure sneaky.

Bobby

July 29th, 2011
2:28 pm

It’s DOA with the balance budget amendment in there. If the Republicans were so concerned about a balanced budget why didn’t they pass such an amendment when they were in power? As a matter of fact under Bush the prescription bill was passed with no offsets as to its cost yet now the same Republicans want to put limits on spending. Not a bad idea mind you, but hypocritical on their part nonetheless.

David

July 29th, 2011
2:30 pm

A balanced budget amendment could be written in such a way that it would not automatic require higher taxes, plus it could allow for emergencies. It would be as simple as saying within the budget that spending is capped at a specific percent of GDP and that if there is a supermajority in the house and senate congress could vote for additional debt needed in an emergency.

Oh and PAYGO was a way to force new taxes not a way to reduce government spending.

David

July 29th, 2011
2:33 pm

Perhaps, just maybe the Republicans are pushing so hard now because since Obama took office we went from low to mid Billion dollar yearly deficit spending (horrible and unacceptable) to low TRILLION per year deficit spending. Think about honestly for 1 minute people 1.2 Trillion increase in the debt limit would get us 9 months.

memyselfandI

July 29th, 2011
2:35 pm

Bobby–you said it all!

clem

July 29th, 2011
2:35 pm

cannot believe how stupid some of these comments truly are…..tea party folks need to go

clem

July 29th, 2011
2:50 pm

That same day, one of my brothers-in-law e-mailed me a long and involved joke about a man who was born with a silver screw in his stomach instead of a belly button. As he grew up, he furtively searched for a way to have the screw removed; finally, at a monastery in Nepal, he found a monk who could make it happen. To make a long story short, a giant screwdriver appears out of a purple mist, removes the screw, and disappears out the window. Jubilant, the man jumps up, and his rear end falls off. The moral of the story is, “Don’t screw around with things you don’t understand—you can lose your butt.” Appended to the joke was the notation that Congress is screwing around with things it doesn’t understand, such as the economy, and that’s why we are all losing our butts. Lawmakers may not realize they are becoming national jokes, but they are.

ByteMe

July 29th, 2011
2:58 pm

Perhaps, just maybe the Republicans are pushing so hard now because since Obama took office we went from low to mid Billion dollar yearly deficit spending (horrible and unacceptable) to low TRILLION per year deficit spending.

So let’s look at the real numbers instead of the imagined ones:

FY 2008 spending: 2,978,433,000,000. (ends Oct 2008, before Obama)
FY 2009 spending: 3,521,699,000,000 (ends Oct 2009, after Obama)
FY 2010 spending: 3,455,982,000,000

But that’s only a $600 Billion difference. So where does David get “trillions!”?

Revenue.

FY 2008: 2,523,638,000,000
FY 2009: 2,104,614,000,000
FY 2010: 2,161,746,000,000

Sure, we have a spending issue, but we also have a revenue issue. And that won’t change until demand increases. And demand isn’t going to increase while unemployment is high. And unemployment won’t come down until demand increases. Bad cycle to get caught in. Only way out is for government to stimulate demand.

DannyX

July 29th, 2011
3:01 pm

The Republican way…

Senate Republicans- Filibuster, filibuster, block, filibuster, block, block. filibuster…

House Republicans- Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! We’re not getting our way. Pout. Pout. Waaaaaa!!

mike 'hussein' smith

July 29th, 2011
3:04 pm

Going cold turkey on federal spending is no longer an option for many people — the poor, the infirm, the unemployed and the elderly. It could have been done maybe in 2001 after Clinton’s surpluses, but of course the Supreme Court elected an MBA who didn’t know diddly about math.

BuckheadBill

July 29th, 2011
3:05 pm

Mr. Gingrey, what did Harry (the little worm) Reid promise you. You are a disgrace to the State of Georgia. I will send money to anyone that runs against you in the next election.

Smoke

July 29th, 2011
3:09 pm

Broun and Graves forgot that Pelosi is not the Speaker, so they don’t need7 72-hours to read the bill. Or, maybe they do if it is more than two pages. Reading is fundamental, but it’s worthless if you can’t.

Marty

July 29th, 2011
3:09 pm

This debt ceiling crisis is going to bite Republicans in the ass come election time. What a bunch of cry babies.

Bill

July 29th, 2011
3:14 pm

Mr. Gingrey may have been good in the dental field, however,
I find him to be be abysmal in the political arena with no real ideas of his own.

Big Daddy

July 29th, 2011
3:14 pm

Gingrey is a hypocritical politician. Redundant, sure — but he should enjoying losing his ass in 2012.

EW

July 29th, 2011
3:16 pm

I know some people think that the Tea Party must go but in reality they are the only true group willing to put up a fight against Washington. What is happening today is really stupid and shows that nobody has a backbone anymore. This is exactly what happened when the dems took over it came down to all politics, I believe all Americans both Democrats and Republicans are the losers here because we have a deal to raise the debt with no real controls put in place to stop the out of control spending. We the people need the congress to answer to us! The Tea Party at least has an inroad to forcing debate, when has the Senate answered to a political foe in recent years – hasn’t happened and trickery is used to force agendas down our throats. I want the Tea Party to be a place where all Americans can come together and be a force to trump congress. I personnally wrote to Phil Gingrey, who has fought hard at times, that I will no longer support him I know there is somebody else out there who is not scared to vote outside party lines. I really like Phil but this vote should be NO on this bill! He should have started a revolt on the leadership because that is where the problem is!

Smoke

July 29th, 2011
3:18 pm

Buckhead Bill. Harry is in the Senate! You meant to say that Boehner learned from last time to just call his folks to his office rather than holding up a vote while handing out checks on the floor of the House.

Justin

July 29th, 2011
3:18 pm

@ Marty….I don’t know about you, but I’m looking forward to them getting slaughtered in the 2012 election. Let them keep doing exactly what they are doing!

Twobees

July 29th, 2011
3:21 pm

I could care less about his opinion. He is nothing but another Republican who helped run up the debt in this country and has been one of those who hasn’t been man enough to stand up and accept responsibility for the actions that former President Bush did which was the beginning of most of our financial problems. I will NOT lower myself to support any person or political party who truly doesn’t care about the people of this country and actually wants to take steps to lower the standard of living for a majority of people in this country. One day soon I hope people remember…this is a government of the people FOR THE PEOPLE! My suggestion to all: WAKE UP!!!

clem

July 29th, 2011
3:22 pm

dixiedemons

July 29th, 2011
3:25 pm

It looks like J-BO and the Tea Party Hobbits have managed to jump over the low bar they set for themselves. They could consider it a win if the Senate and the Pres were not jumping higher. Almost time to start over , AGAIN.

clem

July 29th, 2011
3:27 pm

another fine tea party congressman in action for wall street:
http://www.thewheelerreport.com/releases/May11/0503/0503wispirg.pdf

jconservative

July 29th, 2011
3:28 pm

Here is the text of a Jan 2011 balanced budget amendment. I believe they are using the same text today.

Section 1. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed total receipts for that fiscal year, unless three-fifths of the whole number of each House of Congress shall provide by law for a specific excess of outlays over receipts by a rollcall vote.
`Section 2. The limit on the debt of the United States held by the public shall not be increased, unless three-fifths of the whole number of each House shall provide by law for such an increase by a rollcall vote.
`Section 3. Prior to each fiscal year, the President shall transmit to the Congress a proposed budget for the United States Government for that fiscal year in which total outlays do not exceed total receipts.
`Section 4. No bill to increase revenue shall become law unless approved by a majority of the whole number of each House by a rollcall vote.
`Section 5. The Congress may waive the provisions of this article for any fiscal year in which a declaration of war is in effect. The provisions of this article may be waived for any fiscal year in which the United States is engaged in military conflict which causes an imminent and serious military threat to national security and is so declared by a joint resolution, adopted by a majority of the whole number of each House, which becomes law.
`Section 6. The Congress shall enforce and implement this article by appropriate legislation, which may rely on estimates of outlays and receipts.
`Section 7. Total receipts shall include all receipts of the United States Government except those derived from borrowing. Total outlays shall include all outlays of the United States Government except for those for repayment of debt principal.
`Section 8. This article shall take effect beginning with the later of the second fiscal year beginning after its ratification or the first fiscal year beginning after December 31, 2016.’.

EW

July 29th, 2011
3:28 pm

Just tell me why the speaker didn’t send the Cut, Cap and Budget bill to the senate and say that’s our bill you get yours and then we can discuss and work off of the two bills. That would have kept the Tea Party happy and all other Republicans as well. We have a real problem in leadership as we have a bunch of losers who don’t know how to get things done! You don’t settle on crap when you can eat steak!

Ray

July 29th, 2011
3:33 pm

$405B lost in this tea-bag tantrum.

OneFreeMan

July 29th, 2011
3:33 pm

They can’t control spending without amending the constitution? Why not submit a blanced budget without an amendment? Oh, that’s right, their buddies wouldn’t get the big government contracts while enjoying tax cuts.

Bought and paid for congress.

clem

July 29th, 2011
3:35 pm

ray, that’s twice what the dummies were asking for in cuts over 10 years…are the tea party folks going to replenish those funds?

amazing

July 29th, 2011
3:36 pm

What a joke! An amendment has to be approved by a 2/3 majority in the Congress and Senate. In addition, it requires 2/3 maority from state legislatures. This is simply adding a new demand that will not be resolved in the time necessary to deal with the immediate problem. It is apparent that the inmates are now running the asylum called Congress!

DannyX

July 29th, 2011
3:37 pm

Remember to leave $500 million for Georgia, and another 300 million in the budget for the Republican Georgia and Republican South Carolina. Governors from Georgia and South Carolina have gone begging for fancy dredging projects they want to drown in federal dollars.

Keep that Race to the Top money flowing also!

Georgia’s Race for the Money.

Don’t let all that good Republican begging go to waste. Good luck Governor.

Ghost Rider

July 29th, 2011
3:37 pm

Rural Education:

“A balanced budget amendment would guarantee tax raises. The Federal govt, unlike the states has too many potential emergencies to be hamstrung by this idiotic measure.”

Sir or Ma’am, I fail to see why that would require a tax increase. Can you explain to me why we can’t cut spending? We do NOT have a REVENUE problem. We HAVE a very serious SPENDING problem. I think that a balanced budget requirement would be a very good thing to have considering the out-of-control spending in which the federal government is engaged.

jaypat

July 29th, 2011
3:49 pm

If you’d like to get a better view of what is really going on here, read this:

http://michael-hudson.com/2011/07/debt-ceiling-for-progressive-repealing/

Wilma

July 29th, 2011
3:57 pm

Let’s have a vote on Harry Reid’s plan in the Senate.

O Yeah, there isn’t one.

But then let’s vote on Obama’s plan.

Oops…He does not have one. His spokesman says it’s not the President’s job.

So the only plan which has passed a one branch of the government is the Republican plan. And Reid says he won’t consider it and Obama says he will veto it.

My my. Who is being intransigent?

Road Scholar

July 29th, 2011
3:59 pm

Good for Gingrey; please hold onto your voting ballot for Boehmers’s plan so you can eat it when the grown men in the Senate vote it down.

deegee

July 29th, 2011
4:00 pm

Ummm, Stop Spending, here’s a news flash for you, the federal budget is not just like your own personal finances. It’s a little more complex than that, but how would someone that rides around in a beat up, 1990 Ford with a Fair Tax bumper sticker know that?

Commonsenseagitator

July 29th, 2011
4:01 pm

It is truly pathetic that people in Georgia actually think that anyone on the tea bagger party cares about them unless they are millionaires. No one in this state other than Democrats seem sto be able to read and comprehend what is happening in Washington right now. You have a bunch of 5 year olds elected last year that think they own the world and all they are doing is destroying the country. Idiots, the bunch, morons galore in this once proud state of ours. Stupid people

Smoke

July 29th, 2011
4:04 pm

Ghost Rider. Explain why the GOP were against PAYGO when the liberals were trying to tell you we had a serious spending problem? Remember the Blue Dogs told you that you had a debt problem when the per capita was at $30K per person? If Boehner does not get 287 votes, who is he trying to fool?

Frustrated

July 29th, 2011
4:04 pm

Ray – You’re spot on. Does anyone realize that the 405B lost in actual wealth (green dollars in market losses) and any losses due to increases in the interest rates caused by a credit rating drop, is a de facto tax increase? I agree that spending needs to be roped in, capped, reduced, et al, but playing chicken with the debt ceiling and causing wealth loss is ‘the same thing as a tax increase’, only without any output (be it policemen, Medicare, veteran’s benefits). Let’s all remember this as we have these discussions. This Debt Ceiling impasse is resulting in increased taxes and no additional revenue, just due to what’s happened so far. This is no way to run a government. The Tea Party has every right to push their agenda, but the way they’re doing it is hurting everyone, Dems, Republicans, and Tea Partiers.

Frustrated

July 29th, 2011
4:12 pm

The saying goes ‘a good compromise is one in which no one is happy’. Republicans won’t like revenue increases, Democrats won’t like spending cuts, and the Tea Party won’t like the lack of a BBA. I fail to see why tjis is so difficult to understand. If you want a non-compromise, single party system, Venezuela is a one-stop flight away.

seabeau

July 29th, 2011
4:12 pm

One ,We need to demand that the States call for a Constitutional Convention to forever restrict and control the power of the Federal Government. James Mason was right!!Two, Eliminate Political Parties. The Constitution has no provisions for political parties,both major parties and their cronies are only intent on maintaining and strengthening their power at the expence of the good of the country!! Three, Only those persons who pay Federal Income Taxes should be permitted to vote in Federal Elections.

Smoke

July 29th, 2011
4:16 pm

For those reading impaired and depend on audio aid, the President is required to submit a budget to Congress by the first Monday in February. Obama has done so, why else would you know we have a deficit and that he added the Bush Wars to the budget? Oh, you weren’t told that? My bad.

Don Abernethy

July 29th, 2011
4:16 pm

If he votes to raise the debt ceiling he will not get my vote next election.

Frustrated

July 29th, 2011
4:20 pm

Don – Have you ever voted for anyone who has supported raising the debt ceiling?

Smoke

July 29th, 2011
4:33 pm

Jokes on budget: GOP doesn’t pass budget then tells Pelosi they don’t like hers! Ryan submits 47-page budget with no numbers! Ryan budget was so bad, the CBO scored it so low, it was like. The average SAT score fro South Georgia!

Ghost Rider

July 29th, 2011
4:35 pm

Commonsenseagitator:

“No one in this state other than Democrats seem sto be able to read and comprehend”

If you’d learn to spell and write more precisely, you might actually be understood. Perhaps you can get one of these “5 year olds” to teach you?

Many of the Democrats attended school in the APS system. Care to reconsider your statement?