A Republican caucus fleeing its House speaker?
U.S. Rep. Tom Graves, R-Ranger, announced this afternoon that he couldn’t support House Speaker John Boehner’s deficit-reduction/debt-ceiling plan.
From the press release:
“While I’m supportive of the Speaker’s fierce resistance to job-destroying tax increases, the debt reduction elements within this proposal have already been tried in the past and failed to stop our government from amassing the $14 trillion debt we have today. Most concerning is the failure to demand the passage of a Balanced Budget Amendment.
“Merely promising another vote will not get the job done. Any spending cuts or caps enacted today will eventually disappear without a constitutional requirement for a balanced budget.”
Graves is hardly alone. From the Wall Street Journal:
The leader of a large group of House conservatives said Tuesday he was “confident” there weren’t enough GOP lawmakers to pass a plan by Republican House Speaker John Boehner to increase the debt ceiling and reduce the deficit.
Rep. Jim Jordan (R., Ohio), who said the Boehner plan didn’t cut spending enough, heads a group that includes 178 of the 240 Republican House lawmakers.
The spectacle of a House speaker unable to rally members of his own caucus doesn’t happen every day – regardless of who’s in charge. In a chat this afternoon, Buddy Darden, an Atlanta attorney and former Democratic congressman, made this point:
“The responsibility of being the ruling party, or the party in charge, is that you’re responsible for a positive outcome. This, in my mind, is unprecedented – that the speaker can’t get a majority of his own caucus to step up. There are enough Democratic votes if he can get a majority of his own caucus to pass it.
“But personally, it looks to me like [House Majority Leader Eric] Cantor is undermining the speaker….The speaker has apparently lost control of his caucus – which I’ve never seen.”
“I was there with three speakers – with Tip [O’Neill], Jim Wright and Tom Foley, the weakest of whom was Tom Foley. But still, there was a certain recognition that when the time came, you did what you had to do. Some of us, at different times, didn’t always go along with the caucus. But we realized that there were certain times – when it came to the speaker, when it came to the rules, when it came to the overall operation of the body – that you had to step up.”
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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HDB
July 27th, 2011
4:49 am
RGB
July 26th, 2011
6:29 pm
“The wealth gaps between whites and minorities have grown to their widest levels in a quarter-century. The recession and uneven recovery have erased decades of minority gains, leaving whites on average with 20 times the net worth of blacks and 18 times that of Hispanics, according to an analysis of new Census data. The white-black wealth gap is also the widest since the census began tracking such data in 1984, when the ratio was roughly 12 to 1.”
You’re misquoting the Pew report; the loss occurred over the past DECADE….during the BUSH years!
clem
July 27th, 2011
6:07 am
let’s offer all tparty members the state of alaska and pay for them to move….or maybe texas, la, miss, al……then let them secede….and take grover nerdquest with them
Travis McGee
July 27th, 2011
6:53 am
I did a little research and found that the Bush Tax Cuts cost the government over $2.4 Trillion in lost revenues with minute positive results in only 2006 and 2007, the Ten Year Wars $1.292 Trillion, the Prescription Drug Bill whill not costing quite as much as anticipated $1 Trillion and the TARP $900 Billion for a total of $4.6 Tillion dollars in debt and lost revenue before Obama found out where the bathroon was in the Oval Office.
And, most of these ol’ boys who are now appalled at the mess we’re in were there to speed these massive spending bills and tax cuts and loopholes right on down the line.
Dang hypocrites whose only concern is to torpedo Obama’s reelection.
Mike
July 27th, 2011
7:08 am
Buddy Darden just summed up why he was thrown out of Congress. He voted the national Democratic Party line, which was very liberal, in a conservative district.
Obama is Wrong
July 27th, 2011
7:20 am
Tell the truth,
Please tell me how a job is “created”? It is created when a company has a need AND the money to pay a person for their labor (and that includes their salary, benefits, SS, etc.). Thus, when companies have more money to pay for the people, there will be jobs. Did you not see the recent Steve Wynn interview where he shot down Obama as killing jobs in this country? You are obviously blinded by your wealth envy and can’t see the forest for the trees. What makes you think I’m not one of the “working people”? Well, I am. I don’t own my own business. I work 40 – 50 hours a week like most people. My grandmother couldn’t read or write and worked at the Fulton Cotton Mill for more than 40 years before dying from brown lung disease. My father never finished high school but he and Mom made sure I had a good education. My Dad worked two jobs for many years as I have. We never counted on the government to help us and we were never disappointed. I consider myself a Christian (my daughter is a pastor), but I do not believe in entitlements. Yes, God wants each of us to help the poor but my govt forcing me to turn over money to inefficiently create govt jobs to “help” the poor is not what God had in mine. God only asks us to tithe 10% of our earnings. Well, guess what? The government should be able to run on no more than 10%. Down with Obama, Down with Democrats, and down with Republicans who will not stand and fight to take back this country from liberals and moderates.
Bill Orvis White
July 27th, 2011
7:22 am
I’m sick and tired, but not sick and tired enough to stay off of the Internets. I’m sick and tired of Wa$hington $pending my hard-earned dollar$ on handouts to society’s deadbeats, abortionists, feminists and seculars. Y’all know something? I’m not surprised. Hussein Obama promised throughout his whole 2008 campaign about the damage he was ready to do on this once-free nation’s economy. As rational folk from Real America begged Lil Hussein that 1. the rightful Bush tax cuts were working and it just needed time to continue working 2. the rightful Bush Surge in Iraq was rightfully working, but of course, Lil Hussein didn’t want to listen 3. the Republican Agenda of pro-growth, low/no taxe$ brings prosperity to all.
No, Hussein Obama didn’t listen. He and his thugs in the campaign and then his administration, the union thugs, enviro-whackos, anti-business folk, Communists/Socialists, feminists, seculars, anti-military folk and far left liberal college professors bought and paid for this “president” and then installed him into office.
Now, we are dealing with this anti-colonialist Kenyan-born Muslim who wishes to raise the debt ceiling and WE THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING NO TO MORE BIG GOV’T SPENDING, PERIOD!
Speaker Boehner has upset me plenty even though I love him. He didn’t stand enough with the Ryan Plan and for that, I really feel that Speaker Boehner needs a Tea Party Republican primary challenger to send a message to him. But, if he doesn’t hold to his rightful Cut and Cap plan, then he and his supporters are fired next year, pure and simple.
ANGRY AS HELL
July 27th, 2011
7:28 am
I’m angry as hell! Thanks to the Bush Tax Cuts, and all the other tinkering Republicans have done to the tax code for the last 25 years, the rich have gotten richer, and are paying less taxes now than at any time in our history. The middle-class has dwindled and paid more to fill the revenue gap created by these efforts. Someone blogged earlier,”Where are all the jobs created by the Bush tax cuts?” Why, they’re overseas, that’s where they are. The rich in this country couldn’t give a damn about American workers. If it’s true that Boehner called Rush Limbaugh to seek his approval before unveiling his so-called debt reduction plan to the rest of us, then we know what shape this country’s in. When the American public finally wakes up and sees what’s been done to them, they will go after the Boehners, the Ryans, the Cantors, the Bachmans and the rest of those who put corporations and the richest of the rich above the average working American. This is a sad period in our history.
lester maddox
July 27th, 2011
7:28 am
It is everybodys responsibility to pay there bills. Raising this debt ceiling is about paying for the car we’ve already bought, not a new one. We already owe these bills. They are paid or the collection agencys come calling.
I say pay up, then get into some serious debate (key word here is serious) about debt reduction and less spending. SS and Medicare are much too important to too many people to be used as bait.
lester maddox
July 27th, 2011
7:32 am
I kinda agree ANGRY. Wingers want less government, but what is filling the gap? We can be governed by a government or we will be run by corporations.
lester maddox
July 27th, 2011
7:36 am
Bill O White,
Don’t include me in your WE THE PEOPLE BS.
lester maddox
July 27th, 2011
7:41 am
“Yes, God wants each of us to help the poor but my govt forcing me to turn over money to inefficiently create govt jobs to “help” the poor is not what God had in mine.”
I love it when you thumpers “know” what God had in mind.
SmittyATL
July 27th, 2011
7:41 am
Of course Obama is a socialist. He wants to redistribute the nation’s wealth, as most on the left do. No matter how much the top 10% of income earners pay in taxes, his answer is to raise their taxes in order to (partially) pay for more government programs. His vision is a single-payer health care system (although he ended up getting some muddled patchwork system that only partially achieves that goal and that may very well be overturned). He reached agreement in principle with John Boehner on a debt ceiling deal that would have increased tax revenues by $800 billion, then reneged and demanded an additional $400 billion. In order to stir up class warfare, he repeatedly derides those who use “corporate jets,” while he travels the world on an aircraft that costs taxpayers over $187K PER HOUR to operate. Stimulus bill. Cash for clunkers. Tax, tax, tax. Spend, spend, spend, and spend some more. Address economic woes by growing the government, rather than by supporting private enterprise.
It is disingenuous to claim that Obama is not a socialist. Instead of denying the obvious, why not go all-in and make your arguments for why America should be a socialist nation?
lester maddox
July 27th, 2011
7:44 am
Is this the famed Travis McGee, owner of the Busted Flush?
Hell, I knew I liked you.
ANGRY AS HELL
July 27th, 2011
7:57 am
lester maddox. we already are run by corporations. Our government is merely carrying out the demands made by the wealthy. The biggest joke being pulled on the average, working American is his/her belief that the people they elect to office care about them or what their needs are. I’ve been around politics and politicians my entire life, and what I’ve learned is that politicians (Dems and Repubs alike, but mostly Repubs) are far more concerned with getting in bed with corporations and the wealthy, than having to protect the middle- and working class people. How many lobbyists are there in Washington, DC who are re-writing the tax code to benefit the middle-class? When people like Grover Norquist tells these Republican Congressmen how to vote and what they better not vote for, or when it matters to the House Speaker what Rush Limbaugh feels about his debt-reduction plan before he unveils it to the rest of us, that pretty much tells you who’s running what. Republicans are quick to accuse Obama of trying to create a class war in this country. It is the Republicans who are causing a class war by destroying the middle-class in order to belly up to the bar with the wealthy and powerful. I recently heard an old line conservative refer to where things are as “Corporate Communism.” I think that best says what’s happening here..Fifty years ago we used to worry about being invaded by Bolsheviks and the Communist Chinese hoards. Well, you better keep your eyes on what the Board of Directors at Citi Bank and Mobil Oil are up to.
Clinton "Skink" Tyree
July 27th, 2011
8:21 am
I’m too damn old to be around, but we’re heading toward an oligarchy.
If you think things are bad now, you ain’t seen nothing. The one’s with the gold are going to make the rules and it ain’t purdy!
How the middle class could have been fooled into backing such a notion is a dang mystery to me, but you’re doing it to yourselves.
Hmmmmmm
July 27th, 2011
8:25 am
Travis Mcgee,
Your probably right about Bush…, but your logic is flawed for this simple reason… Obama has done WORSE in his tenure…. I agree that both parties are WORTHLESS! People are starting to wake up, especially when you have egomaniacs raising millage rates 34 percent in a Georgia county that has over 10 percent unemployment….. Good Grief, sounds like Washington DC… I have NO idea what all these politicians are thinking… A little power corrupts a LOT….
Bill Orvis White
July 27th, 2011
8:27 am
Why raise taxe$ on those who are creating the job$ for us? It doesn’t make any sense. Patriots like Mr. Limbaugh and Mr. Norquist are standing up to the system by saying, “WE THE PEOPLE are going to hold you elected officials accountable. If you raise taxes on anyone, then you are FIRED!” And @Angery As Hell – It can be Dems and Repubs who violate their principles. I have no problem getting Speaker Boehner fired if he caves on his rightful Cut and Cap plan, but folk like Hairy Reid, Nanny Pelosi and Bawney Frank are totally anti-American with their tax and spend plans that created this massive out-of-control welfare state.
This is so simple. Stop big gov’t spending, cut the capital gains taxes, lower or even eradicate taxes on business, end unfunded federal government mandates, pass a balanced budget amendment and we will see jobs return to America. @Angry As Hell You obviously engage in class warfare and sound like a deadbeat looking for big gov’t handouts. If Washington just cut the spending, then job creators from small business to large corporations would invest in America. Why do you think Rush and Trump got out of New York as much as they did? Answer: High taxe$! Stop hosing those who achieve and create prosperity for others. If anyone of you lazy secular progressives on here don’t like the fact that the rightful Republicans are holding their ground, then move to a place like Cuba, Venezuela, Zimbabwe or Switzerland. Then, write me from there and tell me how free you are — GOOD NIGHT!
Amen,
Bill
Hmmmmmm
July 27th, 2011
8:30 am
Angry as HELL,
The companies are not doing business in this country because of your government… USA the second highest country in the world to do business! Period. BTW, I would lay odds that the rich pay more taxes than you have paid your entire LIFE!… Please think before you blog, you just make yourself sound STUPID!
Abbreviated Pundit Round-up | Hotspyer – Breaking News from around the web
July 27th, 2011
8:31 am
[...] Jim Galloway: The spectacle of a House speaker unable to rally members of his own caucus doesn’t happen every day – regardless of who’s in charge. In a chat this afternoon, Buddy Darden, an Atlanta attorney and former Democratic congressman, made this point: “The responsibility of being the ruling party, or the party in charge, is that you’re responsible for a positive outcome. This, in my mind, is unprecedented – that the speaker can’t get a majority of his own caucus to step up. There are enough Democratic votes if he can get a majority of his own caucus to pass it. [...]
Clinton "Skink" Tyree
July 27th, 2011
8:37 am
Since 2001/2002, according to the Center for Defense Information, the Ten Year Wars have cost us $1.29 TRILLION — $170 BILLION in 2011.
The Defense Dept. looks like a great place to start cutting.
And, while the Republican/Tea Party whines about welfare for the poor, I say we need to cut out the welfare to Halliburton and defense contractors that have been eating at the trough way to dang long.
Frederick Douglass
July 27th, 2011
8:37 am
Republicans got drunk on power, went to bed with the Tea Party, now it’s the morning after, and they want to saw their arms off to get away from them.
td
July 27th, 2011
8:39 am
Rethuglicans
July 26th, 2011
11:55 pm
Then why are all of you progressive friend is Washington keep going to the camera’s screaming about doing away with the Bush tax cuts? Either you are wrong or they are demagoguing an argument for wealth envy’s sake?
Clinton "Skink" Tyree
July 27th, 2011
8:44 am
PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE AT: Tax.com/How did the Bush Tax Cuts Work for the Economy?
Olderandwiser49
July 27th, 2011
8:46 am
Plans such as that proposed by Boehner (tax now / cut later) were passed during both the Reagan and Bush administrations. The taxes were implemented immediately, but the cuts NEVER came. This will happen here, too (just like the GOP’s promise of $100 Billion in cuts became $60 Billion, which then became $39 Billion, and effectively turned out to be a $2 Billion increase in spending). We need MAJOR cuts now, not months or years down the road, and we need a Balanced Budget Amendment BEFORE agreeing to any raising of the debt ceiling. We can’t keep giving our Whiner-in-Chief money to burn!
Clinton "Skink" Tyree
July 27th, 2011
8:47 am
@Frederick Douglas — Terriffic Post.
But the Republicans got the “gift that keeps on giving” from their brief encounter — and a little penicillin won’t help.
Hmmmmmm
July 27th, 2011
8:47 am
Exactly Olderandwiser49……
Jack Bond
July 27th, 2011
8:49 am
The example of intransigence set by the House of Representatives will visit upon society in more than economic ways. Children will learn that compromise is weakness – that getting along is not what adults do. I am sick.
Clinton "Skink" Tyree
July 27th, 2011
8:51 am
@Bill Orvis White — The effective tax rate is the lowest in 60 years and the Bush Tax Cuts haven’t done diddily over the past ten years.
Please see: Tax.com/How have the Bush Tax Cuts Helped the Economy.
retiredds
July 27th, 2011
8:59 am
In the House of Representatives it’s the “tail wagging the dog”. No problem look at the following link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/26/eveningnews/main20083834.shtml?tag=stack
It is telling that the conservatives talk a great game but when it comes to pork in anyone’s district (Republican, Tea Party, Conservative as well) forget what is said because the federal trough is open. The name for these folks is: hypocrite. So it is not just those evil, mean “librul” Democrats who have their hands out. And my guess is that Phil Gingry, Tom Graves, and other GA arch conservatives are at the trough as well.
BW
July 27th, 2011
8:59 am
This is hilarious…so much for governing….they can’t even get their own house in order. I predict that something gets passed on a bipartisan vote in the House and then is not filibustered in the Senate. After that the FAA funding debacle gets resolved and then both sides dig in for the 2012 election season. If the Republicans win back the Senate and the White House purely on economic failure it will be a modern day Pyrrhic victory. No one wins with the economy in the state that it is in. The numbers don’t lie…medical spending for our aging seniors will continue to eat up the budget in terms of GDP unless some reforms are made. In the meanwhile if we insist on continuing tax breaks and funding 2 and a half wars I don’t see how one maintains that without getting additional revenue. And all this while discretionary spending is cut to and through the bone. I just don’t see the American people being happy about that outcome regardless of which party is in control.
Diehard
July 27th, 2011
9:01 am
Buddy Darden lost his seat in Congress because he followed the Speaker and not the will of those he was supposed to be representing. He remembers more that he’s telling you, Jim.
Ol' Timer
July 27th, 2011
9:03 am
Boehner is trying to legislate like his party controls both houses of the congress. But, in fact, they don’t and they must be willing to compromise — which is what politics is all about anyway — or else there’ll be continued gridlock and the government will shut down.
I don’t think the Speaker wants that to be his legacy — but then again, maybe he does.
Teddy Roosevelt
July 27th, 2011
9:08 am
Rethuglicans- pot, kettle… learn how to take a joke, especially since his post was all name calling.
Jack Bond
July 27th, 2011
9:14 am
Rep. Graves could work on a little “debt reduction” on that loan in N. Ga
Debt "crisis" as a music video on YouTube
July 27th, 2011
9:14 am
Just posted this morning on YouTube. The debt “crisis” as a music video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCpu8QhWS0w
Olderandwiser49
July 27th, 2011
9:17 am
@Angry as Hell
I find it humorous to read your rant on corporations. Take a look at Obama the Great’s relationship with GE. Look at how he screwed taxpayers and investors on Chrysler, and how he is now using smoke-and-mirrors accounting to show what a great job he did. And, whether you want to admit it or not, look at his support of public Unions, and at all the waivers on Obamacare he has given to corporations that support him. I assure you that he is in bed with corporations as much as any president has ever been, and while he may vocally speak against them, he defends those that support him or his ideology. Obama IS orchestrating class warfare. His ranting-of-the-day about “corporate jets” is a way of getting those on welfare to vote for him because if they don’t have a jet, no one else should either (even though they earned the money to get it). The revenue that taxing jets would achieve is miniscule. The vast majority of the $800 Billion ….sorry, I mean $1.2 Trillion (forgot Big O was ordered to change his mind) in increased revenues demanded for his personal spending account would come from the middle class, those you say are being attacked by Republicans. As long as “I want what you have, so give it to me” people continue to listen to Barry’s BS, this country will continue in its death spiral. And before you throw out the race card (the last-ditch effort by liberals when they finally realize that their arguments have no merit), be assured that the ONLY reason impeachment proceedings have not been brought against him is because he is black. His numerous violations of the Constitution and Presidential powers are far more egregious activities than those of Nixon or Wild Willie Clinton, and some are even cases warranting charges of Treason.
karen
July 27th, 2011
9:20 am
BOWhite,
If you listen to Limbaugh and Norquist no wonder your ignorant. Vlose mined drug addicted and fat Rush with a closed mind. But I’m sure you have forgiven him for buying drugs from his maid. He says what you want to hear and makes your mind a little bit narrowwer.
Publius
July 27th, 2011
9:22 am
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/can_give/H0GA09030
Want to see who is giving to a representative? Try this link.
Justin
July 27th, 2011
9:27 am
For 8 years the Bush administration and the Republicans prosecuted two wars and tax cuts without paying for them. This, more than anything is what is responsible for where the country finds itself today. To solve this problem, the President and Congress need to commit to the bi-partisan reccommendations of the Presidential Debt Relief Commission. It calls for shared sacrifices…combination of spending cuts and new revenues
Bill Orvis White
July 27th, 2011
9:29 am
@karen
So you look to leadership and inspiration from union thugs, liberal teachers, Hussein Obama, Nanny Pelosi, Hairy Reid, Bawney Frank, enviro-whackos and secular progressives? You are sad and misguided. Mr. Limbaugh does not tell me what to think. I already formed my rightful opinions after I found the Lord Almighty. I too, was addicted to the drink, just like Mr. Limbaugh was addicted to the pill. God says none of us are perfect so we look to inspiration from higher powers and some here on Earth like the honorable President Reagan, Speaker Gingrich, Rep. Bachmann and so many others. If you are looking to inspiration from the left, you are just sad and stuck-on-stupid.
Amen,
Bill
lester maddox
July 27th, 2011
9:39 am
“you are just sad and stuck-on-stupid.”
Amen Bill
lester maddox
July 27th, 2011
9:41 am
Until we man-up and realize the truth about what got us in this mess, we’ll never be able to get out of it. (See George W. Bush)
blue dog
July 27th, 2011
9:43 am
Revenue, as a percentage of GDP, is the lowest it’s been since the 1950’s. The top 400 wealthiest taxpayers pay 18.1% of their income in taxes…this is from the IRS. They paid 29% during the Clinton years…you remember… the last time we had a budget “surplus”. American corporations are hoarding trillions in earning and not using the money to expand or create more jobs. So, more money, via further tax cuts will do nothing to create jobs. The GOP mantra of cuts, cuts, cuts and more cuts is economic suicide, as it would cripple our fragile recovery and condemn even more Americans to walk the unemployment lines. The only people advocating the GOP approach are the talking heads from the right, who are not economist, but “talk show personalities”…and Grover Norquist.
It is truly mind boggling to see that a few “personalities” have more credibility with some people i. e. Tea Party members,and many on this blog, than do all the leading economist in the world.
There is no chance of resolving the country’s problems when we have such ignorant, misguided, headstrong, stubborn leaders as those Tea Party Representatives in the House.
Those of you on this blog advocating for these morons need to get your “facts” from someone other than someone who’s motivation is to keep you “pissed off” with their lies, solely for the purpose of keeping you listening, therefore supporting his livelihood. Make no mistake…Rush and company know you are too dumb to see through their BS. It is not unlike those tabloids were “anything goes”.
No lie is too outrageous for these gullible masses of loyal listeners. Hell, they probably get a big laugh each day, at your expense, when deciding which lies to broadcast.
This would be humorous, if this nonsense had not spread to the point of electing people who now represent you morons….too late.
jd
July 27th, 2011
9:43 am
We are witnessing what happens when “I” becomes more important than we. This secular philosophy of me, me, me — which the Tea Party espouses, is why the Articles of Confederation failed, and why this country will become a Tier 2 country. The so-called Christians in the Republican party need to re-read Acts and understand that you work for the greater good, not yourself.
PC
July 27th, 2011
9:56 am
Just another Joe — GO TO SLEEP!! You are acting like a child, so now it is nap time. Retired Solider and Herbert Johnson, thank you both for your service and your contribution to our Country’s safety — and thank you for sharing your opinions.
SmittyATL
July 27th, 2011
10:12 am
jd: The Tea Party is anything but selfish. The Tea Party is a movement of Americans who are fed up with the federal government’s excessive reach, which has led directly to our massive annual deficits and unmanageable debt burden. If not for the Tea Party, the Democrats would still control the House, Senate, and Oval Office, and would be happily humming along — spending, taxing, and borrowing — toward total economic collapse. Note that S&P is likely to downgrade the US Government’s credit rating even if Congress passes and Obama signs off on a higher debt ceiling. The debt ceiling issue has brought this to a head, but as S&P realizes, the problem is not the debt ceiling itself, but rather Washington’s ongoing out-of-control deficit spending. Rather than slamming the Tea Party, you should thank them for beginning to put the brakes on a Government Gone Wild.
HDB
July 27th, 2011
10:13 am
Olderandwiser49
July 27th, 2011
9:17 am
Bill Orvis White
July 27th, 2011
9:29 am
Methinks you aren’t seeing the reality here! The GOP promotes class warfare by wanting to eliminate the national safety net, creating tax advantages for those OF advantage, and persistent hostilities towards ethnic minorities!! It’s been their policy since 1965!! It was Republicans who advocated universal health care, Affirmative Action and a national environmental policy(Theodore Roosevelt, Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln)…but the modern GOP is anathematic to its founding principles!
BOW – If you honestly look for inspiration from Ronald Reagan – who advocated segregation in Philadelphia, MS – , Newt Gingrich – whose Contract ON America did more to generate hostility in the nation – , Michele Bachmann – who advocates cutting the safety net while receiving subsidies of $150K from the government — YOU are the one that’s stuck on stupid…..and hypocritical!!!
td
July 27th, 2011
10:34 am
HDB
July 27th, 2011
10:13 am
“eliminate the national safety net”
When 25% of the population is receiving from the ’safety net’ then it ceases to become a stop gap measure and turns into a way of life. I for one am totally against a person making a living off the government because they do not want to work or have choosen to make bad decisions in their lives.
” creating tax advantages for those OF advantage”
How can you even make such a statement when 48% of the population pays no Federal taxes and a good portion of those receive money (Wealth redistribution) in the form of EITC?
“persistent hostilities towards ethnic minorities!!”
And that statement is just BS.
TSA on the way to second base
July 27th, 2011
10:38 am
the house republicans should just keep saying we passed a bill (cut, cap, balance); the senate has to take it up, change, and vote on it
this running around on who has a PLAN is just stupid; WHATS THE ONLY PLAN THATS BEEN VOTED ON?
stick with the talking points; REPUBLICANS have already passed a debt celing bill. ITS IN THE Democratic controled SENATE.
mum
July 27th, 2011
10:44 am
Why people continue to compare managing household debt to the national debt is beyond me. I don’t know about you, but only those with money can borrow money these days. If you have to pay your bills with limited funds, you prioritize some by paying the most curcial first and everything else takes a back seat. That’s the new normal for most people out here. There was a time that you could go out and get a part-time job to help pay those bills, but in case nobody noticed, most people aren’t even able to get those anymore. So, which bill do you pay first every month, and who do you stiff because you can’t pay everyone?
The country pays it bills using taxes, remove that revenue and what do you use instead? 14 million out of work and nolonger contributing to the tax base.