Your morning jolt: Andrew Young says APS needs an honor code

Andrew Young, the former mayor and U.N. ambassador, thinks the Atlanta Public Schools system needs an honor code – and not just for students. From Mark Winne of Channel 2 Action News:

From the Channel 2 web site:

“The cheating speaks to the character, and that’s where the failure is,” Young says. “This is a time for us to decide what we want to do with our school system.”

Young told Winne he was casual friends with [former APS school superintendent Beverly] Hall, but never close to her. Young says Hall was too isolated in her position as superintendent, “but we’re the ones who isolated her.”

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Early this week, Monica Pearson of Channel 2 Action News popped up on the island of Maui to interrupt former school superintendent Beverly Hall’s Hawaiian vacation. On Wednesday, it was the turn of 11Alive’s Karyn Greer. She didn’t get much, either. From the 11 Alive web site:

Greer: I want to ask you, people are very, very upset back home. People were saying that you absolutely had to know cheating was going on. Are you still standing by your statement?”

Hall: “I will have no other comment than what I issued on Sunday but I absolutely knew nothing about cheating.”

Greer: “People in Atlanta, folks [are] concerned, folks are losing their jobs, schools are in real trouble right now as they’re starting back. People want to hear from you, though, what do you have to say about what’s going on back in Atlanta?”

Hall: “Well as you know I’m on a planned trip and at this time I have no further comment. I issued a statement that was printed in the AJC, and at this time have absolutely no further comment.”

Note to assignment editors: We’ve been going about this the wrong way. The Hawaiian mission clearly requires a pasty-faced, balding newspaper geek. I’ll head for the airport now.

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The Georgia chapter of Americans for Prosperity will pay not-so impromptu visits today to the home offices of U.S. Reps. John Barrow and Sanford Bishop, in an attempt to persuade the Democrats to toe the Republican line in the debt-ceiling debate. The note to supporters:

We need your help this Thursday, July 14th for national district office day. AFP activists from across the nation will be visiting their representatives’ district offices this Thursday, July 14 at 12:00 Noon. Will you join in?

AFP will be at the following offices tomorrow: Thurusday, July 14 at HIGH NOON:

Walk In at Congressman Sanford Bishop’s Office – NOON – Columbus GA

Location: 18 Ninth Street, Suite 201, Columbus, GA

Walk In at Congressman John Barrow’s Office – 4PM – Augusta GA

Location: 925 Laney Walker Blvd, Suite 300, Augusta GA 30901

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Three finalists have been unveiled for Georgia’s new license plate, each featuring a peach.

The three plate designs were selected from more than 500 entries submitted by the public, according to the Associated Press. Click here to see them.

A panel of Georgia college and university art professors narrowed the selection to eight. An online public vote chose the final three designs. Perhaps not by coincidence, all three finalists were the same three that featured the optional sticker of “In God We Trust.”

Which has raised grumbles from some license-plate aficionados. From one collector, who works at a firm that wouldn’t want to see his name in print:

The thing is, all tags will have a county sticker by default but the owner can instead opt for the “IGWT” sticker – just as it’s done now. But these plate designers just opted to put IGWT as their default instead of, say, Fulton, then the state didn’t explain it so all the religious folks voted for those plates regardless of the design.

If that was the intent, why were art professors involved in the process? (Should have just gone straight to the churches.) The contest was a sham and a slap in the face to artists and designers.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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63 comments Add your comment

PatDowns

July 14th, 2011
9:41 am

Jeff

July 14th, 2011
9:58 am

I can see the guy/gal’s point about the license plates. These are by no means the best three designs. *sigh*

td

July 14th, 2011
9:59 am

Why do teachers need an honor code when they agree to not commit this type of behavior when they getting their teaching certificate and when they sign their contract? Sounds like a way to make it look like you are doing something when in reality you are not changing anything.

Raquel Morris

July 14th, 2011
10:11 am

Jim, if anyone deserves the Hawaiian vacation, err, track down Beverly Hall assignment, it’s you.

jsmtih

July 14th, 2011
10:12 am

Yea that will help??

Raquel Morris

July 14th, 2011
10:12 am

@td, couldn’t agree more. Andy Young, as usual, just said a whole lot of nothing. No surprise that he finds no fault with the business community either. Sellout.

Matt

July 14th, 2011
10:17 am

Yeah point fingers over and over. That way stuff gets done.

Matt

July 14th, 2011
10:19 am

The only thing that will help is parents being more involved with their kids. Ending the monster that is standardized testing. (waste of money time and highly inneffective) and promoting more charter schools and more flexibility with curriculum and teaching.

Also less money for administration and superintendents.

Aquagirl

July 14th, 2011
10:45 am

Our country is so divided now LICENSE PLATES are political footballs. They’re intended to identify your vehicle. Period. When did trumpeting your right-wing jesus cultism become more important than law enforcement’s need to figure your county of residence?

Paul

July 14th, 2011
10:49 am

Yeah, an honor code will work….NOT.

When you place incentives for teachers to cheat, it will happen. Try to look for the worst case scenario instead of believing every person is capable of being honorable. We live in the most selfish country in the world, start making rules against selfish individuals rather than believing the American culture is selfless. This is what we preach but do not practice.

How about actually grading standardized tests rather than sticking them in a grader. Why not have unaffiliated individuals getting paid to grade rather than those who are affiliated with the schools and have an incentive to get better grades to make the school look better and earn that bonus.

There are other options, but the fact of the matter is, these superintendants want to horde all of the money and make over $300k a year. Why in the world should a school superintendant get paid this much to begin with when we are shutting down schools and overcrowding classrooms in Georgia.

Honor code, what a joke. The same country that blindly reiterates the Pledge of Allegiance every morning without actually feeling the importance of what the Pledge actually means. Just another routine. Do what’s easy, right America? Do what’s easy, then blame someone else for the crap results. That’s the American way. Why are we a country of consumers instead of the powerhouse country of producers we once were. I wonder.

Spike

July 14th, 2011
11:00 am

Aquagirl’s Birkenstock’s are too tight and it makes her cranky. As for Andy, he needs to check the mote in his own eye, those without sin and all. And teachers, like everyone else, know what is right and honorable. They just need to choose to do the right thing.

dave

July 14th, 2011
11:01 am

the link to the tag finalist doesn’t work

The Way I See It

July 14th, 2011
11:11 am

The cheating “scandal” is merely a symptom of a larger ailment. We have a federal mandate which requires improved/good performance measured by a test and disparate funding (of local schools) based on tax indexes. Perhaps if funding for the different schools was equalized and the federal mandate “no child left behind” is either repealed or refined to create different indicators of acceptable performance for all students then the pressure to “perform” would lessen and children could actually learn.

Further, we (the state) determine how many prisons to build/how much space will be needed in future prisons, based on how well children in 2nd and 3rd grade read. We then spend thousands of dollars to house individuals in our prison system and to build/improve prisons state wide; why not instead; spend thousands of dollars (rather than the billion or so which has been cut from education over the last seven (7) years) on education-actually teaching little Johnny or Susy to read. Just imagine what the future could look like.

Spike

July 14th, 2011
11:11 am

And what Monica and Karyn did was asinine theatrics for ratings.

MB

July 14th, 2011
11:16 am

Regarding the new license plates – I don’t intend to display my county name or IGWT on mine. I hope that will be OK.

MrLiberty

July 14th, 2011
11:16 am

Government schooling and government in general is based on the principle that it is ok to take from someone else their property, their rights, their income, etc. in order to establish a monopoly on the use of power to achieve a specific end. You can say that it is being done for noble causes, but the facts remain the same. This is not a voluntary relationship. It is about force, plain and simple. The funding mechanism is THEFT. It is said that “There is no honor among thieves.”

When a system is based on the immoral act of theft, and the system is based on the force and violence of the state, there will ALWAYS be moral problems with its actions. Private exchanges are based on the voluntary exchange between parties. Both parties feel that the exchange has benefitted them or the exchange does not take place. Force, fraud, etc. are a violation of that voluntary exchange (including using the force of government to influence or coerce the exchange – forced health care insurance, etc,)

I guess for someone like Mr. Young who spent way too much time receiving stolen monies as his income source, the possibility that morality can be a part of government operations seems actually viable. To those who understand and appreciate the fundamental difference between interactions in the private, voluntary sector of society and the government, involuntary sector, the suggestion is absurd.

When you can justify away the actions of the state which include theft, violence, and even murder things like cheating and other commonplace government corruption have little hope of every being eliminated from government operations.

NorthGaDawg

July 14th, 2011
11:20 am

Just please don’t be that stupid white tag with the overgrown peach. Might as well keep the ones we’ve got if it wins. And by the way, I will be displaying the In God We Trust sticker. It is my right and my freedom of expression……..

Question Man

July 14th, 2011
11:26 am

How many years has it been since Andy Young made any sense? In what way was Beverly Hall “isolated?” Wasn’t she deep within the inner circle of the business community, the political establishment, the northside, and the power brokers? Or, was that was the problem?

morris2196

July 14th, 2011
11:31 am

A person who will falsify test scores will also violate an honor code.

native atlantan

July 14th, 2011
11:38 am

blech…the tag finalists are all hideous…sweet jeebus…looks like they were designed by elementary school kids. Is this really the best we can do? I know it’s just a license plate but come on.

Cliff

July 14th, 2011
11:44 am

I wonder if they have even tested the designs to see if they will work with the cameras on Georgia 400 or the new lanes on I-85. Perhaps we should vote for the busiest design in order to confuse the tag readers.

Fredrico Hobbs

July 14th, 2011
11:45 am

Seriously … these are the three tag finalist. Whoever is making these decisions need to be fired on the spot! What a joke.

Tucker

July 14th, 2011
11:55 am

I liked the one with the peach on the right side only. Others are too cluttered looking. But then our state leaders are too cluttered looking too. Maybe the three are appropriate.

Troll

July 14th, 2011
11:56 am

I hate all three tag finalasts. I just want a plain tag with no fluff!
I will look g@y having one of those ugly tags on the back of my car.

Lisa T

July 14th, 2011
11:58 am

I think all the license plate designs are awful, and resent the way the state is using MY vehicle to advertise its religious philosophy…whatever that happens to be. I thought Republicans were not supposed to be about Big Government meddling with peoples’ lives and property!! Maybe it’s a plot to get us to ante up $$ for one of the speciality plates.

MrLiberty

July 14th, 2011
12:04 pm

It seems that a more appropriate statement would be “In Government we Trust.” Whether democrat or republican, the citizens worship at the alter of the almighty state. Any proposal to eliminate the government monopoly over ANYTHING is met with total resistance. The calls are for “reform”, etc. but never elimination. If we are the creation of a higher power, and a majority seem to believe that, then why do we not trust the individual creation but rather trust a collection of individuals who have the monopoly of force and legal violence behind them in their actions. God did not create government. God created man and man created government. Clearly the creation of man pales in its perfection relative to the creation of the divine.

I know. Nobody gets logic teaching anymore.

Johnny

July 14th, 2011
12:10 pm

1. What ever happened to “Georgia… On My Mind” Plates?

2. Can we stop spending money on stuff like this? 3 plates, 3 flags, and 2 IDs this past decade? Let’s put out resources to better use. Also, spending millions to change the DMV to the DDS? Money spent by the government should be to invest in and grow the economy.

Voting for future

July 14th, 2011
12:11 pm

The new license plates are a waist of money when we dont have money to spend. How much is it going to cost the state to make these new plates? Thats money that could go elsewhere to a more needed cause. Just another stupid idea of someone who we voted into place. Time to vote those same people out. There is nothing wrong with the plates we have and dont need to spend the tax money of such a thing at this point in time.

Silent Jay

July 14th, 2011
12:16 pm

Something’s wrong. I can actually read tag #7.

No way was my fave–the one with the subtle ATL skyline on it–going to win. Not when it was up against goober-tastic stuff like pastoral scenes of the family farm being foreclosed on.

And why not just cut to the chase and have the tags say “My God is better than your God?” That’s a sure winner round these parts.

SweetandSouthern

July 14th, 2011
12:24 pm

Thank God they are going to have new license plates next year. That boring plate that we currently have makes Georgians look “simple” when we travel out of state. Faded peach. Yes, people do look at your license plates when you travel. All other southern states have nicely decorated plates.Florida has a plate catalog of a variety of nice specialty plates. Even our specialty plates (which I have one) leaves much to be desired. Georgia, it’s about time you stepped it up. And I’ve never wanted my county displayed on my tag. Leaving that space blank has given me pride.

Honestly, This is a Broken System

July 14th, 2011
12:25 pm

Attention: APS, Teachers, and Andrew Young, The way the system works is that if you are HONEST, and turn in a great job performance, you GET TO KEEP YOUR JOB. If you lie, cheat, steal, cover up, or fail to turn in an acceptable job performance, then you are ushered out the door to the unemployment office. It doesn’t take an honor code to define that the APS’s behavior was wrong, much less an offense that requires dismissal.

big hat

July 14th, 2011
12:29 pm

If I don’t have IGWT on my license plate, will it start raining inside my car?

Jamie

July 14th, 2011
12:33 pm

I like the first one

Frederick Douglass

July 14th, 2011
12:36 pm

What’s so hard about making kids read aloud in front of their classmates, or writing on the board, or doing a math problem on the board? We’ve become too concilliatory to these kids feelings, and in the interim, we have adults that don’t know the difference between your and you’re, can’t write in cursive, or don’t know what the square root of 81 is, and can’t figure out how you arrive at the answer. It’s a shame that someone such as myself, educated in segregated schools a looong time ago, is more educated than most of last year’s senior classes state wide.

Dawg 96

July 14th, 2011
12:54 pm

I liked the choice that had peaches and leaves, Georgia written in title-case (NOT ALL CAPPED) and “The Paech State” in the bottom left corner. It was true to the Georgia brand, but pulled it off in the usual subtle and classy way. (It was also a modern twist on the popular GA standard issue plate from the ’90s, with the fade-to-peach at the bottom.)

However, we’re now going to be stuck with these over-the-top, airbrush mural license plate designs that are reserved for backwater states!

Remarkable

July 14th, 2011
12:57 pm

I didn’t like any of the choices but I do have “In God We Trust” on my tag now. Spent the dollar and covered up my county name. My choice. You may hate my choice but I don’t particularly like some of the specialty choices out there either. I don’t try to force you to believe in God, but I hope you will. I won’t call you names, or berate you for not believing.
BTW: Florida’s state motto is on many of their plates. It’s “In God We Trust.”

GO Pee

July 14th, 2011
1:01 pm

What a coincidence. All three tags that had “in god we trust” on the mockup were chosen as the finalists. God has really bad taste.

Ghost Rider

July 14th, 2011
1:08 pm

NorthGaDawg:

I will be honored to be identified by Aquagirl, and those who think like her, as a member of the “right-wing jesus cultism”. I, too, will be displaying a flag that reads, “In God We Trust”.

carla roqs

July 14th, 2011
1:12 pm

young is only speaking out because one of ajc’s blogs berated him for not coming out before now. sorry, if he “knew” a rhoa enough to go to a party at her house, i am sure he has hobnobbed with hall. it is wrong for her “friends” to hang her out to dry now. jim, i vote for you to go and errrr, interview her. i would be willing to take notes for you and smack gum while you rake her over the coals.

RGB

July 14th, 2011
1:29 pm

Ghost Rider,

Count me too as one who will be displaying “In God We Trust”.

Let water woman cling to her godless government. That libs would all of a sudden have an interest in the needs of law enforcement is a hoot. And we know the APS libs care about children…

And for those folks who are embarrassed by having “Georgia” on your tag, I know of a way where you can get, for example, “New York” on your tag: Move there.

: )

RGB

July 14th, 2011
1:33 pm

One other snide observation: The folks upset with “In God We Trust” are the same ones who voted for a guy who said “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.”

Beth Merkleson

July 14th, 2011
1:37 pm

I volunteer to go to Hawaii with my poor sick mother to see Beverly Hall

Libertarian Hypocrite

July 14th, 2011
1:41 pm

@ Mr. Liberty,

I find it quite ironic how individuals complain about ‘forced’ health care but don’t complain about ‘forced’ car insurance. Which would you rather insure – your body/health or your car? hmmm…

Mr. KnowitAll

July 14th, 2011
2:02 pm

Aw shucks! I was looking towards having the license plat that had two peaches together and a twig that looked like a horse’s rump. too bad…..

td

July 14th, 2011
2:14 pm

Libertarian Hypocrite

July 14th, 2011
1:41 pm
@ Mr. Liberty,

I find it quite ironic how individuals complain about ‘forced’ health care but don’t complain about ‘forced’ car insurance. Which would you rather insure – your body/health or your car? hmmm

Your statement is comparing apples to oranges. One is not ‘forced’ to buy car insurance. You do not have to buy if you choose not to drive. On top of that car insurance is regulated and the laws passed at the state level and not at the federal level. Obama care is forcing every American citizen to purchase a product. What else are they going to force us to but if they get away with this?

td

July 14th, 2011
2:21 pm

Frederick Douglass

July 14th, 2011
12:36 pm

Well dang the eastern sky must opening and Jesus returning because I never thought I would ever say I totally agree with you, but you are ABSOLUTELY right with your comment.

MD

July 14th, 2011
2:21 pm

galloway you should be informing your liberal brothers about how obama will not concede that this country is sick and tired of wastefull spending.It is all obamas fault!

Pete

July 14th, 2011
2:23 pm

Junior Samples

July 14th, 2011
2:24 pm

I like the idea of airbrushed license plates, maybe we can recruit artists from Panama City?

Ghost Rider

July 14th, 2011
2:39 pm

RGB:

“One other snide observation: The folks upset with “In God We Trust” are the same ones who voted for a guy who said “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.”

If people really object to “In God We Trust” on tags, or are ashamed of Georgia, they can always relocate to any other of the 57 states.