UGA leads, Georgia Tech trails in diplomas among state lawmakers

The Chronicle of Higher Education today has published a worth-reading national study of the academic backgrounds of 7,000 legislators in all 50 states.

It comes with a very cool interactive map.

In Georgia, 82 percent – numerically, that’s 193 — of our 236 lawmakers in the state Capitol have a bachelor’s degree or better. Another 5 percent have some college.

By ranking, Georgia is neither high (California, 90 percent) or low (New Hampshire, 53 percent). Nationwide, the figure is 75 percent.

More important, the CHE study shows the continued dominance of the University of Georgia as the alma mater of choice in this state. One-third of all Georgia legislators with bachelor’s degrees have a UGA diploma.

If you think that doesn’t matter come budgeting time, think again.

By contrast, Georgia Tech didn’t make it into the top 10 of matriculation venues for state lawmakers. Only five legislators reported attending one of the nation’s finest engineering schools. (On its interactive map, CHE has added insult to injury by locating Georgia Tech in Hapeville – but is busily correcting the error.)

Georgia State University runs a surprising second, perhaps explaining that new football team.

Here’s the list, as presented by CHE:

1. UGA, 63 lawmakers

2. Georgia State University, 24

3. Mercer University, 15

4. Georgia Southern University, 8

5. Emory University, 7

6. Kennesaw State University, 7

7. Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College, 6

8. North Georgia College & State University, 6

9. Atlanta’s John Marshall Law School, 6

10. Valdosta State University, 6

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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153 comments Add your comment

Tom

June 13th, 2011
2:41 pm

Well, it’s not like we’ve ever considered the GA to be an overly-bright group, anyway.

GT81

June 13th, 2011
2:42 pm

explains a lot!! geez… uga

catlady

June 13th, 2011
2:45 pm

Well, let’s think about it. Who is drawn to the legislature? I would say virtually NO engineers:By training, aptitude, or personal preference they would tend to eschew things involving compromise and unethical behavior, as well as the study of the law, all variables that would generally be present in legislators. Engineers go for cool logic, quantitative analysis, and not back-scratching.

Although MIt is a great school, I doubt they have many alums in the Massachusetts legislature. Same goes for Duke, although it is much less strictly engineering-oriented, in North Carolina.

Road Scholar

June 13th, 2011
2:45 pm

No wonder we are in the state that we are in: high unemployment (can’t blame it on Pres Obama), lack of transportation, lack of action on water, and last on education!

Ole Guy

June 13th, 2011
2:53 pm

Is one to presume that these renowned and esteemed institutions are the only source of educated folks? It seems somewhat…well, how can I put it in a politically correct, yet statesmanly manner…hickish that no consideration be made to the notion that QUALIFIED legislators might actually be educated at other institutions outside the borders

Bill

June 13th, 2011
2:59 pm

Hmmmmm….Don’t know why it would be surprising that GSU has the second most legislators. It’s the second largest college/university in the state. UGA- 35K students, GSU- 32K students. Or, didn’t you know that?

Loran, whatayagot?

June 13th, 2011
3:07 pm

One reason the Trade School is underrepresented in the state legislature is that there are state capitol odinances against snorting while laughing, and constantly poking ( with your index finger) the center of your glasses to push them back into place on your face. That disqualifies a huge number of the Techmites. It also may have sometghing to do with Ga. Tech not having a law school.

Hey you guuuyz...

June 13th, 2011
3:08 pm

Hmmmm… That explains a lot. Maybe you should also consider that you don’t get an engineering degree to become a liar.. I mean politician, you get some liberal arts degree. I could have told you the same thing w/o looking at some stupid report.

itsmeagain

June 13th, 2011
3:11 pm

Watch GSU’s number get increasing closer to UGA as the years go by

oh geesh

June 13th, 2011
3:13 pm

GT is underrepresented because 1) we dont graduate everyone that can withstand the rigors of turfgrass management or film studies (yes, real degrees at UGA) and 2) we are busy doing work that actually benefits socieity. Maybe if we graduate more folks with no appreciable skills, our numbers will rise in the ranks.

oh well, back to designing circuits.

Centrist

June 13th, 2011
3:13 pm

The Tech graduates are industry leaders instead of on the government gravy train.

Keith

June 13th, 2011
3:15 pm

Yeah, but Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers is one of those handful of GT grads.

404

June 13th, 2011
3:21 pm

While this study is NO SURPRISE to anyone,
it does make one thing perfectly clear:

It is the sorry-azz illiterate redneck hill-billies from UGA (and thier Board of Regents cronies)
that have wrecked this state both academically and economically.

404

June 13th, 2011
3:23 pm

GT = Highly educated capitalists

UGA = Uneducated “plantation-minded” socialists.

GStateBen

June 13th, 2011
3:34 pm

Jim,

Your connection between Georgia State football and lawmakers is an odd one. The student fee was approved by the students to fund football, not a lawmaker. I believe it helps tremendously as Georgia State continues to gobble up land downtown and expand its campus. Not suprising either considering the law school is so strong.

catlady

June 13th, 2011
3:55 pm

GStateBen: Are you positing that the football program has gotten (in terms of facilities, etc) NO money from the Legislature? I mean, the football program costs a whole lot more than the additional student fees, I would expect.

The key to the difference in diplomas lies in the self-selective nature of where people go to school and who chooses to run for the legislature.

Now, let’s see a breakdown on religious preference, by party. I have a bet going on that one, too.

lol

June 13th, 2011
4:01 pm

No wonder our state is so corrupt, we are under the leadership of u(sic)ga grads.

ddie

June 13th, 2011
4:10 pm

Unfortunately, the State, population and legislators, have never understood what we have in Georgia Tech. Discussion of Georgia and Georgia Tech revolves around the relative merits of the football teams to the detriment of both schools. Few Georgia graduates acknowledge or are proud of the fact that some very excellent work takes place in Athens. Both schools would do well to get out of the intercollegiate sports business. Both have excellent intramural programs which benefit the majority of their students.

Panama

June 13th, 2011
4:21 pm

@catlady

The football program is funded by the $85 per semester athletic fee. $85 x 32,000 students x 2 semesters; and that is not including Summer Semester. Sorry Selina Kyle but your purring at the wrong saucer of milk.

Rod

June 13th, 2011
4:31 pm

Uga “grads” with basket weaving degrees dominating the legislature. That is all we need to know. No wonder the state is run like a bucket of DUNG!!! GT grads are too smart to get into politics.

LMAO

June 13th, 2011
4:33 pm

@Road Scholar AMEN!!!!!

GODAWGS

June 13th, 2011
4:34 pm

Yea and we got an ingeneering program now so you techies can suck it. you are irelevant now

oh geesh

June 13th, 2011
4:42 pm

godawgs,

congrats on your engineering program. i am sure there will be a big market for under-educated UGA engineering grads to safely design buildings, build bridges, determine chip architecture of the next intel chip, etc. i for one never cared about UGA getting an engineering school. we all need janitorial engineers, burger flipping engineers, french fry engineers, etc. not that sure tech grads can handle that market. i am sure the best and brightest this country has to offer will most definitely choose UGA over tech.

WE have lost our way

June 13th, 2011
5:02 pm

Majority of GT grads are from other countries.Therefore are not U.S. citizens.GT is now the international school of engineering.You have to be a U.S.citizen and Georgia resident to be a state lawmaker.GO DAWGS!! Also the crime is so bad around campus they are moving to Hapeville!!

GTFAN

June 13th, 2011
5:36 pm

Lost your way if you dogs would keep your “fooball” team in that toilet bowl known as Athens and away from Atlanta, our crime rate around campus would be cut in half immediately.

WE have lost our way

June 13th, 2011
5:42 pm

They never go to the GT campus,the girls are to ugly.GO DAWGS

GTFAN

June 13th, 2011
5:47 pm

Who said anything about girls. They are too busy pi%^ing on fire hydrants and running from the police. GO JACKETS.

WE have lost our way

June 13th, 2011
6:02 pm

Good one GTFAN!Got to go find a fire hydrant!See Ya. GO DAWGS!

yuzeyurbrane

June 13th, 2011
6:08 pm

Engineers and scientists are very important to our society but let’s face it, most could never pass a political literacy test. Same for doctors. So we are better off that they not try to govern. My question is: should they even be allowed to vote?

yuzeyurbrane

June 13th, 2011
6:10 pm

Also, where were all these Univ. System of Ga. grads when the legislature was gutting higher education budgets and the HOPE Scholarship?

Jacket in TN

June 13th, 2011
6:11 pm

Would be a major surprise to see more than a handful of GA Tech graduates in the Georgia legislature. We are busy putting people in positions that really matter. Not sitting under the Gold Dome arguing over petty things like Georgia grads do. It is sad that they get to determine who gets what as far as money goes

Cliff

June 13th, 2011
6:22 pm

Next article in the series, “UGA beats out GA Tech in number of biased journalists employed by the AJC”

Juniors

June 13th, 2011
7:28 pm

This explains why our state government has underachieved…

jojatek

June 13th, 2011
10:16 pm

As a graduate of Tech, I must tell you that I am very happy to be way down the list in these rankings

john

June 13th, 2011
10:16 pm

I’m a dawg fan but this article means nothing.

lol

June 13th, 2011
10:21 pm

No wonder this state is f’ed up.

HBTD

June 13th, 2011
10:22 pm

No big surprise. It’s been said before, but it’s worth repeating for all the techies. UGA runs this State both on and off the field.

Ron Hyatt

June 13th, 2011
10:24 pm

I’ve been saying this for years. UGA is what is wrong with our government. Morons who produce morons who fund morons.

GoJackets

June 13th, 2011
10:26 pm

This explains the high unemployment and the lack of progress.
GT grads are busy changing the world, not running a regressive state.

BIll Melater

June 13th, 2011
10:26 pm

“Watch GSU’s number get increasing closer to UGA as the years go by”

Oh now THAT will be an improvement. /s

HBTD

June 13th, 2011
10:28 pm

Jim. Looks like you’ve really got the techsters fired up on this one. Always funny listening to them whine about something. Thanks and Go Dawgs!

concerned

June 13th, 2011
10:30 pm

UGA runs this state, and you are proud of it? By looking at the results, I would be ashamed. OH, and by the way, the majority of GT grads are not from other countries, at least on the undergraduate level. The PhD level is a different story. However, I have always thought that GT alumni have a higher calling than being a state legislator.

Runnin With The Dawgs

June 13th, 2011
10:30 pm

I’m a Dawg fan too and I have to agree with John. Don’t compare apples to oranges and then expect me to be impressed.

Courtney

June 13th, 2011
10:32 pm

UGA, GSU, and Mercer have big law schools. Why is this shocking?

Jacket in TN

June 13th, 2011
10:34 pm

GO JACKETS!!!

Dan

June 13th, 2011
10:41 pm

You know it took a lot to come up with the title to this article. Next week the ajc should run an article titled “Georgia Tech destroys other schools, UGA limps home in last place in Engineering grads.

Joshua Barlowe

June 13th, 2011
10:42 pm

This explains why our state budget is so screwed up and why our education system is so crappy.

Vampire Bill

June 13th, 2011
10:45 pm

Dawgs dominate over Tech again, just like everything else.

B. Thenet

June 13th, 2011
10:46 pm

Politics is for people who want to mooch money off you, with low morals and drinking problems, why wouldn’t UGA be leading the pack.

The real surprise is there aren’t more Georgia Southern grads under the golden dome.

That explains it

June 13th, 2011
10:48 pm

So 43 don’t have college degrees and 63 went to UGA, so almost half of the state lawmakers have high school degrees at best, great.