Your morning jolt: Lawsuit to argue that new immigration law will criminalize acts of kindness
The legal war over Georgia’s new illegal immigration law begins today.
The lawsuit by the ACLU and other civil rights groups will be released this afternoon, but a few details are already leaking out:
– Much of the draft is the work of Keegan Federal, the former DeKalb County Superior Court judge;
– One of the main components is the allegation that the law will result in racial profiling, which should surprise no one. The filing will include this line: “All Georgians, and particularly those of color, will be compelled to carry additional paperwork on them prescribed by the State of Georgia at all times.”
– The lawsuit alleges that, even though the new law doesn’t go into effect until July 1, individuals are already being stopped by law enforcement officials, based on their appearance and ability to speak English.
– The suit will also focus on the new law’s ban on transporting or harboring illegal immigrants, arguing that the statute will expose legal residents of Georgia to criminal prosecution for acts of kindness.
In addition to the civil rights organizations, parties to the suit will include aTeamster official who says he regularly transports undocumented students, offers rides to undocumented day laborers to and from work sites, and drives undocumented individuals to church in his union-issued, 12-passenger van.
Then there’s the retired Air Force lieutenant colonel, now the leader of a multi-denominational group that serves 100 families, including illegal immigrants, offering English language classes, food coupons and direct aid.
Meanwhile, Georgia Public Broadcasting has this:
With a month to go before Georgia’s new immigration law goes into effect, training is underway for police officers, sheriff’s deputies, and others on its details.
An annual workshop on law enforcement issues brought together more than 70 people Wednesday on the campus of Columbus State University.
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It doesn’t look like a heart attack will keep state Rep. David Lucas, D-Macon, out of a race to replace state Sen. Robert Brown. He was discharged from the hospital on Wednesday, according to Macon Telegraph:
[Lucas] went to the hospital Sunday evening after suffering symptoms of heat exhaustion at the Soul Jam Fest at Henderson Stadium.
Doctors discovered he was having a heart attack when they examined him.
[His wife] Elaine Lucas said doctors performed surgery, removing two blockages and putting in two stents during the procedure.
She said Lucas has been told by doctors to rest.
He’s also been told to get more exercise and change his eating habits, she said….Elaine Lucas said her husband plans on returning to the campaign trail next week.
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Many Republicans have speculated that President Barack Obama’s call for Israel to accept its 1967 borders as a rough starting point for peace negotiations with Palestinians will send Jewish voters in the U.S. rushing into the arms of the GOP.
This morning, Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia offers a concise refutation. From his Crystal Ball:
First, similar concerns voiced by political opponents about Obama’s support for Israel had little impact on Jewish voters in 2008; second, Jewish loyalty to the Democratic Party appears to be based primarily on the liberal views of most Jewish voters on domestic policy issues, especially on social issues; and third, the influence of religious conservatives and Tea Party supporters on the Republican Party remains a major obstacle to the GOP in attracting support from Jewish voters.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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Last Man Standing
June 2nd, 2011
9:51 am
Still using the term “undocumented immigrants”? The use of that term may be politically correct, but these people are still ILLEGAL ALIENS!
Aquagirl
June 2nd, 2011
9:58 am
That nun is toast. Everyone knows Jesus is a Republican.
Douglas
June 2nd, 2011
10:00 am
Judge Federal (how apt!) allegedly writes “All Georgians, and particularly those of color, will be compelled to carry additional paperwork on them prescribed by the State of Georgia at all times.”
Uh… aren’t we all some color or other? I have yet to encounter a “clear” Georgian. There are some, of course, that one can see clear through, but that’s a different metric. So, therefore, if ALL Georgians are required to carry this “paperwork” how do you make the case that this is racial profiling?
My attitude has always been that we are all of one “race,” that being the “human race.” Skin tone is just a matter of shading, not race. Of course, I could be wrong…
Alek
June 2nd, 2011
10:06 am
Well, if these “acts of kindness” are contributing to causing damage to the health of our communities and economy by fostering ILLEGAL immigration, then 1) maybe they’re not really “kindness” to the common good, and 2) how cares if it is a nun, truck driver, or employer. ALL are assisting in damaging this country!
Jason
June 2nd, 2011
10:06 am
Jewish American != Israeli. Republicans have been dreaming for decades of capturing the Jewish vote in the US by sucking up to Israel and it hasn’t worked. There’s something about the Republicans autocratic nature that most Jewish people don’t find appealing. Until that changes, they can dump the entire US Treasury on Israel and it won’t significantly change Jewish voting patterns here.
Contractor
June 2nd, 2011
10:08 am
I know a woman that is married to an illegal, and married him knowing full well what she was doing. Here is the kicker… his family is also here illegally and has been for years. They run a mechanics shop here in Marietta, and obtain licenses by getting fake ID’s and submitting false information to receive them. ALSO, the initial husbands sister has had three kids here in Georgia and has not paid one cent for having those children. My wife and I have paid over $4,000 with insurance helping some on our daughter born last year. Does that seem fair to any of y’all? Safe to say this family with be targeted for deportation from me once these news laws go into affect, and the girl that works with my wife will be justified as well. And icing on the cake is that the woman admits that her husband drives around with no license and insurance, so debate that all you want.
Jack
June 2nd, 2011
10:10 am
We are loosing focus on the situation, the whole issue here is ” if you are brown you will be pull over” people that address latin people as ILLEGAL ALIENS are very ignorant to assumed that being of color defines your legal status.
David H
June 2nd, 2011
10:11 am
“Being an illegal immigrant is NOT a crime!” A liberal air-head Member of Congress from Florida has even said so, and she should know. (Jewish, I’m afraid to say, by the way). Anyway, this person-of white (i.e., me) carries a legal ID on him at all times, because I don’t want to get in trouble with the law. It is called a valid Georgia State Driving license. And guess what? I also possess a US Government issued passport! And I can produce a New York State Birth Certificate, given 24hours warning! Pathetic whiners every one of them!
Douglas
June 2nd, 2011
10:11 am
@Aquagirl – Jesus a Republican? Expalain please then the tipping over of the tables of the money-changers? That’s sounds mighty left-wing to me! And just GIVING out wine and bread to the crowd? And healing the sick at no charge? And not insisting that He’s right but showing folks the right path by example? these actions are NOT a hallmark of the Republican ethos! (Equal time: the Dems go too far the other way.)
luangtom
June 2nd, 2011
10:11 am
I truly wonder what world people that are filing lawsuits live in? Have any of them traveled overseas on their own and seen what other countries do with the influx of people? They check papers. Each and every time I have traveled overseas, I have been asked on the streets by the police to prove I am there legally. It is not just at immigration upoin arrival, it is on the streets in tourist areas and in areas where tourists do not frequent. Other countries check papers. Why is it hard to grasp that we need to here, too? Our sovereignty and our status in the world is not going to be degraded due to asking for proof of identity and legality of the people entering our country. Most all countries of the world require per their immigration laws that non-citizens carry valid proof of identity at all times.
Rich Smoker
June 2nd, 2011
10:11 am
I think the nun should focus her time on the epidemic of priests molesting children. Or, she can just be apathetic about the whole issue, much like the rest of the Catholic church. Bunch of perverts.
Contractor
June 2nd, 2011
10:14 am
Jack,
Ignorance is always followed up by some kind of experience. If Latin people would have done the right thing initially and not taken advantage of the system, America, and its citizens, there wouldn’t be a problem. There would be no situation if our country wasn’t being drained by this situation and the people taking full advantage of it without giving anything in return. And I have no problem carrying around another form of ID if it solves this problem. Make whites, blacks, Mexicans, Europeans, Australians, red, blue, and pink people all carry them if fairness is the issue.
BigJake
June 2nd, 2011
10:15 am
I agree on the color issue, we are all different shades of brown. Our coloration is determined by where our ancestors, for the most part, were raised, as well as our parent’s coloration. As far as “acts of kindness” are concerned, to my knowledge, it has always been illegal to harbor fugitives from the law, whether those fugitives are illegal aliens or convicted/suspected felons. There is a legal and structured path to becoming a U.S. citizen, and whomever was responsible in the 1960’s for formulating the “anchor babies” law, attaching citizenship simply because you are born here, should be taken out to the woodshed. What a waste of resources! I understand the desire to be here – it’s a great place to live and raise a family – but there are rules and regulations for this process, and thousands of immigrants each year labor through the process just to be here legally. What this must seem to them must be so confusing and frustrating. I have no problem with profiling based on visual and verbal interaction to determine someone’s legal status. We do not need more laws, we simply need better enforcement of existing laws to keep the system working the way it should.
Douglas
June 2nd, 2011
10:15 am
Jack, I think you are dead on (IF I understand you correctly). It’s not about color, or ethnicity. It’s about LEGALITY. You came here legally? Fantastic, welcome! You came here illegally? Sorry pal, but you are outta here. What part of ILLEGAL don’t these people get? I think some folks need a refresher in Civics 101.
RealTalk
June 2nd, 2011
10:15 am
Secure the Border. Come here legally like everyone else. We do need temporary workers for our businesses, but they need to pay taxes like everyone else. Violent Criminals need to be deported.
Howard
June 2nd, 2011
10:16 am
Want further proof this country is down the toilet??? Just read this article and the ACLU lawsuit. The USA is being governed by Barack Obama and his Insane Clown Posse. Oh and why have a legislature anywhere?? The will of the people and its representatives will be usurped by some judge or court or lawsuit. We are a nation truly gone mad. And as for the Jews voting?? Remember, Jews are liberals first and Jews second. Obama could destroy Israel tomorrow and these people would still vote Democratic.
Pelican Brief
June 2nd, 2011
10:17 am
@Aquagirl..Everyone knows Jesus is a republican…Is Hector also a republican?? Oh, you meant Jesus Christ…
truth
June 2nd, 2011
10:17 am
There is a road block on Buford Highway…. hmmmm why dont cops put a road block in midtown, buckhead?
DTA
June 2nd, 2011
10:18 am
Vidalia onions are planted in the fall and are harvested in May and June by workers following a tractor-pulled harrow that cuts the onions from the roots and loosens the ground. Workers pull the onions out of the ground, clip the stems and the roots, and then put them in 50-pound burlap bags.
I wonder how many Republicans are ging to line up to pick all those yummy Vidallia onions this year… seems like those farmers could use the help.
C from Marietta
June 2nd, 2011
10:19 am
@Douglas,
Jesus did not participate in politics. In the Bible it states Jesus was “above poltics”. He was NOT a liberal or conservative.
James
June 2nd, 2011
10:20 am
Bye Bye illegals… run on out to Missouri or
where ever but we are tired of your free loading
in our schools, hospitals, etc in Georgia…
ACLU isn’t going to win this one… See Arizona
law on E-Verify which will hold up in Georgia as
well.
yuzeyurbrane
June 2nd, 2011
10:21 am
Re the Jewish vote, while Republicans are unlikely to fare better with their overall Jewish vote %, they will continue to get big bucks contributions from wealthier Jews like Bernie Marcus, many of whom have become Republicans. That alone probably makes the pandering worthwhile to the Republicans.
luangtom
June 2nd, 2011
10:22 am
I do believe that the majority of writers on this forum and US citizens in general do not have a problem with a “guest-worker” program for agricultural or service-industry workers. Get here legally, that is the problem most Americans have with the influx of foreign nationals. Get here legal, no problem.
It is a drain on our government services. Governor Deal and the State of GA quoted some numbers that I find startling….$2-billion annually in GA to educate, give medical care and incarcerate illegal immigrants. Get here legally and US citizens will not be angry about the monies spent on illegals. If the law is wrong, garner enough votes to get it changed. That is the process in America.
Goobers
June 2nd, 2011
10:24 am
GOOD MORNING GOOBERS!
Here is an idea: For the new Jawja car tags Goobernor Nathan (dont call me ‘Shady’) Deal can offer a design with a small pic of a few Hispanics trudging West and the motto “No, Not One”.
Side note… that wonderful Dikkksie weather went from cold and wet and nasty to “horrible sauna with dangerous storms” in a hurry. Got A/C?
Jack
June 2nd, 2011
10:24 am
Douglas, I guess you right. If you are white you wont be pull over, if you are brown you will. Seems like has to do something with color to me. Maybe instead of civics 101 you should consider common sense classes.
Sick of Republicans
June 2nd, 2011
10:25 am
Contractor you got it right. Illegals galore in this complex I live in. Laugh about them babies they pop out every nine months to a year not costing them a dime in medical or hospital bills; come out of the hospital already signed up for WIC vouchers, not having to show any documentation. Go in Kroger at Embry Hills on Chamblee Tucker Road on any given Monday morning and you see them in line with five and six kids under six, spending their WIC vouchers for the week. They get their formula free cause remember the newborn already has vouchers too. With all they can get with those vouchers, the whole family is eating it and drinking the milk, you can bet on that. And the most a Senior citizen living alone who worked all their life and paid taxes can get in food stamps is $19 and most don’t get that much. One of the illegals had the nerve to tell me “you need to go back where you came from.” My reply – I came from right here in the USA, born and raised here, and paid taxes for over 50 years so I think I’m where I belong but you sure aren’t. Another one who has two kids in middle school who speak English had them tell me that I needed to learn Spanish so I could converse with her – I told them to tell her – no you need to learn English so you can converse with me. Maybe this new law will get them back to where they came from.
Please
June 2nd, 2011
10:26 am
I KNEW that when they (racist Georgians) were talking about illegal immigrants that they were ONLY speaking of those of color! First of all there are a LOT OF WHITE people that are illegal immigrants running around in this country! THEY NEED TO BE CHECKED OUT!!! That is so wrong!
Babs
June 2nd, 2011
10:26 am
@Last Man Standing, correct, they’re ILLEGAL aliens, not undocumented immigrants. I get so sick and tired of hearing the MSM call them that instead of what they are. We can raise hell all we want, but you can blame our Federal gov’t.for not addressing the issue and handling it. Another one that just kills me is a “person of interest” in a criminal case. Can we still say SUSPECT? The MSM has the grand ability to dress up less-than-flattering terms that describe less-than-flattering individuals.
DTA
June 2nd, 2011
10:27 am
Hey James:
Most arguments against illegal immigration begin with the premise that the undocumented don’t pay income taxes, and that they therefore take more in services than they contribute. However, IRS estimates that about 6 million unauthorized immigrants file individual income tax returns each year. Research reviewed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50 percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local taxes. Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7 billion per year into Social Security. (Wikipedia)
When you look at corporate America and realize that those corporations that influence and own our elected officials pay little if any taxes and receive massive subsidies… seems to me that you are mad at the wrong people. Of course the corporations have no skin tone… so that may explain your hostility.
FedUp
June 2nd, 2011
10:27 am
The ACLU and most civil rights groups are always going to try to turn everything into a racial issue. It is true that most “legals” (black or white) had rather sit at home drawing off of the rest of us than work in a stinky chicken processing plant or such. The problems that I do have with illegals of any “race” is that if you are going to live here in America, you need to pay taxes like everyone else. You also need to be totally responsible for paying for your healthcare if you use American hospitals, clinics, physicians, etc. No free rides or draining our state Medicaid programs for you and your kids. Just saying-you work, you pay your way.
truth
June 2nd, 2011
10:27 am
You will NEVER see a Mexican/Latino BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT. They are always looking to work and earn their money.
INN (Illegal News Network)
June 2nd, 2011
10:28 am
LAWRENCEVILLE — Lawrenceville resident Zeljko Zekic, 48, pleaded guilty Tuesday in federal court to lying to federal immigration officials about his place of residence and employment during the Bosnian War of 1992 to 1995.
Specifically, Zekic claimed on his immigration paperwork that he was unemployed and living in the Serbian Republic when in fact he was living in a Serbian-controlled town inside Bosnia and was an active-duty member of the Serbian paramilitary police during the period of armed conflict, according to a news release.
“This man, who was part of the paramilitary apparatus controlled by recently captured war criminal Ratko Mladic, twice misled federal immigration officials into believing that he was only a refugee of the struggles that tore Bosnia and Herzegovina apart, rather than a member of the group that has been identified as a very substantial part of that war,” U.S. Attorney Sally Quillian Yates said.
Zekic and his family applied for refugee access to the United States in 2002. Partly on the basis of the fraudulent forms, the family’s application was approved, and Zekic moved to the United States, eventually settling in Lawrenceville, the news release states. Zekic ultimately received a green card and is now a permanent resident alien.
Subsequent research by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Human Rights Violators and War Crimes Unit revealed that Zekic had lied about his job and his residence during the Bosnian War.
At the time Zekic applied for refugee status, all adult male Serbs who had lived in Bosnia at the time of Bosnian War were subject to additional questioning concerning any possible connection to Republic of Serbia Army units that committed war-time atrocities in Srebrenica and elsewhere, the news release states.
Douglas
June 2nd, 2011
10:28 am
C from Marietta — thanks. You made my point for me more concisely that I did. I’m one of those folks who use 40 words when ten will do.
Liberal Crapola
June 2nd, 2011
10:29 am
“You will NEVER see a Mexican/Latino BEGGING FOR A HANDOUT. They are always looking to work and earn their money.”
Half true. They work hard but for slave wages that liberals like. The handouts come in the way of Peachcare, foodstamps, welfare, Medicaid, free US public eucation with a side of ESOL, etc. The list could go on and on on the FREEBIES that illegals get off the backs of the American and GA taxpayers.
Illegals TAKE far more than they will ever contibute to our economy and the well being of this country. Breaking laws doesn’t look too good on a citizenship application, now does it.
Pelican Brief
June 2nd, 2011
10:29 am
@luangtom – you make a good point, but I do not see many americans white or black in line to work in these agricultural or service industry positions especially on the farms where veggies and other fruits needs to be harvested. Why not have a illegal seasonal workers program initiated by the states which needs that type of labor?
ACLU Files Lawsuit To Block HB87 — Peach Pundit
June 2nd, 2011
10:29 am
[...] Galloway has the details but here’s a bit of the lawsuit per his article: – One of the main components is the allegation that the law will result in racial profiling, which should surprise no one. The filing will include this line: “All Georgians, and particularly those of color, will be compelled to carry additional paperwork on them prescribed by the State of Georgia at all times.” [...]
You gots sum splainin to do
June 2nd, 2011
10:31 am
Uhhhh….I just read that you MUST show ID to pick up your Peachtree Road Race number at the Expo. Seems pretty racist to me since most of the runners will be white breads…..
td
June 2nd, 2011
10:31 am
What is a teamster doing transporting illegals? They are taking union jobs by working for less than union wages and not receiving union benefits. The union should revoke his membership.
RedNeck Rick
June 2nd, 2011
10:31 am
I love the smell of racism in the morning.
DWB
June 2nd, 2011
10:32 am
Driving While Black! Policemen all over this country are constantly pulling over African-American drivers just because they are black! Look at what happened to Dunn (ATL Falcons player)…he was pulled over very recently because he is black! He was told that he ‘fit’ the profile of a ‘drug dealer’…then he was harrassed by the APD and asked all types of personal questions! Please! Give me a break! That’s the only reason why they are coming up with this law so that their racist officers will have yet another documented excuse to pull over an African-American driver in a nice car! Racist-pure racist!
Linda Borchers
June 2nd, 2011
10:32 am
When I read the article and the comments,my thought was how cheaply we as a nation hold our citizenship. Most of the illegals do not read or speakour language–an underbelly of 3rd world. They use our infrasturcture,medical facilities,schools. I don’t owe them anything. And to think they just walk across the border for all this.
td
June 2nd, 2011
10:36 am
DTA
June 2nd, 2011
10:18 am
“I wonder how many Republicans are ging to line up to pick all those yummy Vidallia onions this year”
That is the job of a bunch of uneducated Democrats. All we have to do is cut off their welfare and they would get off their butts and pick some veggies.
Yankee Yolanda
June 2nd, 2011
10:37 am
“I love the smell of racism in the morning.”
I guess the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS are racist rednecks! The majorrity of folks that currently reside in GA are not native Southerners, so what does that tell you?
PS – the word racism has no meaning due to liberal agenda. Thanks to liberal, hate words have lost their luster!
Living by Example
June 2nd, 2011
10:39 am
ACTS OF KINDNESS ILLEGAL?
As a higher education professional who works directly with students, some undocumented, I will proudly transport students as they further their educational pursuits if needed. Laws may come and go, but I will always err on the side of human dignity. These “aliens” are people with names and dreams. These students have given me an opportunity to see exactly what the American dream means. If everyone took their education as seriously as these students do we would have a very different higher education system in the state of Georgia.
Not only would I be happy to be given a ticket for this, or even arrested, I would frame the documentation to give to my niece and nephew as proof that I tried to make a difference.
People are showing their ignorance by not examining all sides of this issue. Do I have the answers to the problem? Not at all. But I’m willing to educate myself and to treat people from all walks of life as I would want my family to be treated. I challenge anyone to sit and have at least one conversation with a person who is undocumented. After hearing their story if you can then tell them to their face that they are an illegal alien and should be shipped out of the country, you have no compassion for others. I’m just glad I don’t have to live or behave with that type of fear and hatred.
truth
June 2nd, 2011
10:40 am
Where was the outrage in the late 90s and early 2000s??
oh yeah people didnt care because they were helping this country grow. After the Reps ruined this country, they are the scapegoat
Aquagirl
June 2nd, 2011
10:42 am
Douglas,
sar·casm [sahr-kaz-uhm]: –noun
1.harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2.a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.
super speeder
June 2nd, 2011
10:43 am
I just broke the law yesterday and got a super speeder ticket. Was told the fine of almost $800 and no getting out of it will teach me my lesson for not paying attention to the speed limit drops. As an American citizen I will pay the price for breaking the law. That’s the way things should work.
If an illegal breaks this law, does he/she have to pay the same fine of do they just get sent home. I am fine with them not paying the fine as long as they are sent back home. The justice in that situation will be just fine with me!
RGB
June 2nd, 2011
10:46 am
Leave it to the good-hearted ACLU and leftists everywhere to look out for that unassuming benevolent Catholic nun who “”is guided by the Christian principle of welcoming the stranger in our midst.”
Gee, isn’t that a violation of church and state? : )
I love it when their twisted logic boomerangs and hits them in the backside (cerebrum).
LOL
June 2nd, 2011
10:46 am
“I KNEW that when they (racist Georgians) were talking about illegal immigrants that they were ONLY speaking of those of color! First of all there are a LOT OF WHITE people that are illegal immigrants running around in this country! THEY NEED TO BE CHECKED OUT!!! That is so wrong!”
OK, anytime any place. Anyone here legally has nothing to worry about, so I’m cool with that. And for those of you complaining about “who’s gonna pick the vegetables” and what not, here’s an idea, maybe the farmers can actually pay a living wage and get legal workers to work on their farms, instead of scamming illegal immigrants into working on the farms basically like slaves. Slavery was abolished in the 1800’s, yet its still running rampant on farms across this country.
Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels
June 2nd, 2011
10:47 am
We must prosecute the sympathizers who harbor or aid in any way the illegal ones among us who are destroying society for us, the Godly Chosen of America
Justin
June 2nd, 2011
10:47 am
I have a question? How can you be racis when everybody eats mexican food or go to there country to visit and what not! i live in cherokee county and it sucks nothing but racisims up there and im sick of it. i cant even go to the store with out seeing someone pulled over for nothing. Im african american mixed with white but to me so what what color you are?? i love everbody just the same! I had a great friend locked up a week ago for no license and they said he would be bonded and free by tuesday nut no they kept telling me diff info and now immgration took him thats b/s just because of his race! smh i cant believe America and ppl! im just saying…
Living by the Laws of the US
June 2nd, 2011
10:48 am
“Not only would I be happy to be given a ticket for this, or even arrested, I would frame the documentation to give to my niece and nephew as proof that I tried to make a difference.”
Crazy Uncle Living by Example is a hypocrit! Thank GOD you decided or were unable to have children!
John
June 2nd, 2011
10:49 am
In the case of the Nun she is harboring a CRIMINAL. It is no diffrent then if the nun opened her door to a murder. They are breaking the law. When you break the law you have to pay. Even when you run a red light you broke the law you pay a ticket. They are breaking the law DONT make excuses for Illegals. Would you say that a rapist should be set free cause the person was dressed inappropriately and deserved it. NO you wouldnt so why is it ok for someone to sneak into this country and then we have people make excuses for them. How would you fill if someone snuck in your house and then demanded you take care of them!!!!
6/2 – ajc.com – Your morning jolt: Lawsuit to argue that new immigration law will criminalize acts of kindness | Political Insider « GIRRC – Georgia Immigrant & Refugee Rights Coalition
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10:49 am
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Old School
June 2nd, 2011
10:49 am
Let the profiling begin!!!! If you don’t belong here, you don’t belong here! Bring on the ICE agents and train all Police and Sheriff officers to enforce and deport.
INN (Illegal News Network)
June 2nd, 2011
10:50 am
Man framed in Gwinnett child killings to be deported
What began as an exciting extramarital affair for Antonio Cardenas-Rico turned into a nightmare when he was falsely accused of stabbing to death two of his paramour’s young sons in February.
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.And even though he was cleared of those slayings within two days of his arrest, Cardenas-Rico’s troubles are far from over. He is scheduled to be deported to Mexico within 60 days, his immigration lawyer said Wednesday.
Cardenas-Rico, 27, remained in the Gwinnett County jail for three months after he was exonerated of the homicides on Feb. 12 because he had marijuana in the home where he was staying when he was arrested. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which partners with the county Sheriff’s Office to identify all illegal immigrants booked into the jail as part of a federal program known as 287(g), also placed a hold on Cardenas-Rico upon determining he was in the country illegally.
Cardenas-Rico pleaded guilty May 6 to felony possession of marijuana and was sentenced to 10 years of probation. He was released from jail May 17.
Cardenas-Rico is married to an American woman and has two children. His family lived in Las Vegas, and he sought to remain in the country with them. An immigration judge, however, ordered Cardenas-Rico to be deported within 60 days, his immigration attorney, Noah Pines, said Wednesday.
Police say Elvis Garcia, the father of a 1-year-old and 3-year-old twins, stabbed the boys and then himself to make it appear that they had been attacked at their Lawrenceville home. Only one of the twins survived with critical injuries. Garcia then claimed that his wife’s boyfriend did it. Cardenas-Rico, a professional mover, had been having an affair with the children’s mother for about three months, he later admitted in a jailhouse interview with The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Within two days, investigators determined Garcia was the culprit. Garcia is being held without bond at the Gwinnett jail on murder charges.
truth
June 2nd, 2011
10:51 am
John,
Do you report your friends when they smoke weed in your presence? Do you turn yourself in when you go over the speed limit?
If you have such high morale, you should start turning yourself in to police. you know you ARE BREAKING A LAW so turn yourself in
Pelican Brief
June 2nd, 2011
10:52 am
@Justin…Food is a international language, much different then being racist..No parallel there..Also, your friend driving with no license, you know that is illegal, right? His release is based on the type of bail bondsman he has and once inside they will run id check to see if you have any additional outstanding charges. Then they will release him, not until everything is cleared.
Illegal is Illegal
June 2nd, 2011
10:54 am
These people broke our laws and came here ILLEGALLY!!! They should be rounded up and deported and the first place to look is the places in Roswell and Cumming where they hang out for work.
No Problem
June 2nd, 2011
10:54 am
“First of all there are a LOT OF WHITE people that are illegal immigrants running around in this country! THEY NEED TO BE CHECKED OUT!!!”
They are working as slave labor in coastal / beach areas all over the US. ALL ILLEGALS REGRADLESS OF SKIN COLOR OR NATIONAL ORIGIN MUST LEAVE!
RGB
June 2nd, 2011
10:55 am
My morale is high.
Should I turn myself in….to the ACLU…
It’s tragic that someone would assume that everyone has friends who smoke weed.
Guess that serves to illustrate another difference between leftists who feel they are responsible to no one and everyone else.
I Luv Legal Produce
June 2nd, 2011
10:55 am
@ truth
Breaking the law as an illegal alien is much more serious than when you broke the law shoplifting or drunk driving. You are probably still paying for your mistakes, that why you live your life as a pro-illegal blogger. You still have time to throw you illegal friends a going away party before they are arrested and deported! Either that or you are going to miss your slave labor.
Dave Gorak
June 2nd, 2011
10:58 am
“Racial profiling” is a red herring used by open-borders advocates to draw attention away from their real agenda, i.e., to block all enforcement of immigration laws that were created to protect American workers and settle for nothing less than amnesty. Through such actions, illegal aliens and their advocates have repeatedly shown their contempt for American sovereignty and the rule of law.
Dave Gorak
Executive director
Midwest Coalition to Reduce Immigration
La Valle, WI
Vote for Pedro
June 2nd, 2011
10:59 am
Stop being so judgmental and obnoxious and maybe people will actually like you and then some day you will learn some of your friends do in fact smoke a little weed now and then. They just don’t tell you about it now because they don’t actually like you. Nobody likes you.
Justin
June 2nd, 2011
11:03 am
How would u feel u couldnt go to a store cause ur white? u wouldnt like it there ppl just like u so dont take vaca to another country cause they dont want u there either!
Sixth Sense
June 2nd, 2011
11:03 am
@ No problem.
(Said in the voice of the kid in Sixth Sense)
I SEE WHITE PEOPLE AND THEY NEED TO GET CHECKED OUT !!!!
Hide yer wife, hide yer kids hide yer husband ! We gonna find you!
harold
June 2nd, 2011
11:04 am
Remember, the KKK don’t NEVER eat fried chicken. Yeah right.
Marietta resident
June 2nd, 2011
11:05 am
I see they are STILL playing the race card. When will people finally figure out the word “Illegal” means just what it says. It has NOTHING to do with what race a person is. I am so over the word “race” being used for everything that doesn’t fit someone’s agenda.
Juan Carlos Lopez Ramirez
June 2nd, 2011
11:05 am
Hi, I juan carlos from mejico. I came here illegally. for all of you who think this law is wrong thanks you, could you please send me some money to help me pay my rent and to buy food. i would greatly appreciate it. i have no money, no job, so please send me all the money you can and please help me pay my medical bills as well.
Chickens will Roost
June 2nd, 2011
11:07 am
Mexico, a 3rd world country, is glad to get rid of a few people. The USA has provided a better life for millions. The USA has not trying very hard, until the economy tanked and it became apart to state government just how much illegals were costing in entitlements.
A large number of 3rd world people levels the playing field (a redistribution of wealth). Cheap slave labor and a potentional for the entitlement class to stay alive is reason enough for a liberal.
I for one cannot WAIT for illegals to realize their worst enemy is actually their owner, a slimmy sick liberal!
DW (THE REAL ONE)
June 2nd, 2011
11:07 am
I love Aquagirl. TD, you’re a hopeless d0uche bag – go back to sleep and spare us your next stupid religious rant.
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
June 2nd, 2011
11:09 am
Democrats are complicit in the Party of State’s service to fascist plutocracy, but the core of the “Republican” party is the same faction which gave the world Hitler and the Holocaust from their American collection plates through their correspondent bank, and Knight of Malta Prescott Bush’s finance of his fellow Knight of Malta, papal baron, Fritz “The Rockefeller of Germany” Thyssen. He got the nickname because all knew Bush’s money to the author of “I Paid Hitler,” came from the Rockefellers, the Vatican’s cash-flow repository in America. The Knights of Malta (the papal fraternity whose leadership openly claims to “run the Vatican”) practiced slavery of Jews for ransom on the Mediterranean Sea into the 1890’s and, of the 30,000 Nazi SS who evaded capture “through the Croatian priesthood and the Vatican’s “basement”) after WWII, issued 2,000 passports to Nazi SS officers to escape the Nuremberg War Crimes tribunal. Don’t think intelligent Jews will be voting for another Holocaust any time soon.
Justin
June 2nd, 2011
11:11 am
@Pelican Brief
I understand just wrong i have friends in law enforcements and they think its wrong. im not saying its not wrong for them to cross the border but what about the kids who came here cause of there parents and lived her so long not have to go back??? thats wrong or the ppl who work and trying to help our country but have to get sent back now we dont have ppl to work the farms and so on… do u wanna work 40hrs a week on the farm? to them its like a 16th floor office job with an ocean view just think about that stuff they are actually helping us..
Pelican Brief
June 2nd, 2011
11:12 am
@Bloggers…If I understand this correctly, its ok to “racial profile” Muslims, but we just dont want profiling when it comes to the nation borders and illegal immigrants? Cant have it both ways!!!!
Pelican Brief
June 2nd, 2011
11:15 am
@Justin, If parents came here illegal, to me then the kids are here illegal as well. If they wanted to give their kids a chance at the American Dream, then they should do things by the book and make it legit. As far as the farm work, I strongly believe that each state should have an illegal workers program available to assist in their state needs. Maybe a 6 month seasonal work visa, this is available now, but they have to apply legally.
Chris
June 2nd, 2011
11:17 am
That confirms it. We are heading down the same path as Nazi Germany. Pretty soon everyone will have to present papers or face the concentration camps called prison.
E equals MC Hammered
June 2nd, 2011
11:20 am
I surprised the blacks are so upset over this. The browns came here and took the jobs they use to fill.
Laws
June 2nd, 2011
11:21 am
Forget all this flamboyant idealisms….are we going to be a nation of laws or not?
WiseONE
June 2nd, 2011
11:21 am
I say we run the US into the ground, accept all illegals, forget about the constitution, turn this country into Mexico.
Justin
June 2nd, 2011
11:23 am
Pelican Brief
I agree my gf is from mexico and we are seeing a lawyer to get her papers and doing everything one step at a time and she grad. from kennesaw high and shes proud to be here in the states so i deff agree with u just somethings we do i dont agree im from germany and its not like that there but i agree with u..
Wolverine
June 2nd, 2011
11:24 am
Over 60% of illegal immigrants deported from Dearborn, MI are citizens of Lebanon. This is not a AZ or GA problem, it is a problem all over the US.
American citizens all over the country support our southern neighbors and the efforts they are taking to get rid of all illegal aliens that have destroyed our country.
9/11 didn’t have to happen. Our immigration laws play a huge part in what has happened to our country.
For those of you that want illegals to stay and further destroy our country, shame on you! Your hatred toward the US and it’s laws is just sickening. You have failed so you want the US to fail along with you. How pathetic!
Justin
June 2nd, 2011
11:24 am
@Pelican Brief
PS: SHE PAYS HER TAXES SHE HAS AN TAX ID LOL
Contractor
June 2nd, 2011
11:26 am
DTA,
You get your information from Wikipedia? Who are you, Michael Scott from The Office? Get a better source before you come to the table with some information. So if you want to try and mention a that, let’s talk about some negatives. What about all of the drugs, murders, and convicts that are incarcerated in our prisons? What good have they brought, and how much tax revenue are they eating up, when they shouldn’t even be here? The evidence is out there to see that something has to be done, and you folks that want to give everyone a free ride need to understand that there isn’t enough to go around. There are too many people already waiting for handouts and illegal immigrants shouldn’t be the ones with their hands out or costing us American taxpayers a damn penny.
ExGeorgian
June 2nd, 2011
11:26 am
I guess in July 1st they might as well reinstate the southern flag and put a black swastika on it instead of the white cross. America’s is turning slowly but surely into a racist country. How long it will take before the same law will go into effect n every other state ? 10, 20 years ??? The leaders of the free world will soon put a cop behind every person legal or illegal… what a shame !!!
Summer Camp
June 2nd, 2011
11:26 am
“Pretty soon everyone will have to present papers or face the concentration camps called prison.”
My docs are in order, guess Chris’ are not! Have fun at Camp Chris, your illegal friends are waiting for your arrival!
Pelican Brief
June 2nd, 2011
11:28 am
@Justin….Good for your GF.. See its not an impossible task to ask. For the betterment of family and a better opportunity for kids its a small price to pay for most..
Justin
June 2nd, 2011
11:28 am
@E equals MC Hammered
Actually the whites brought the blacks here to work for whites i mean thats what i learned in school but now yall dont have a receipt to return the blacks back to where they came from haha
Aquagirl
June 2nd, 2011
11:31 am
….are we going to be a nation of laws or not?
Yes, now that it’s convenient to us. Back when the economy was booming, not so much. You can sit back in your McMansion (affordable because of cheap illegal labor) and relax with a crystal clear conscience, Mr. Great American.
Contractor
June 2nd, 2011
11:31 am
Justin,
The problem comes in when those kids grow up, they understand what’s right and wrong, but they don’t correct their parents mistakes and file for citizenship. They eat up tax dollars when they are enrolled in our public education programs, and some even go to college on the government’s dime. Then they have kids and the cycle continues. There are always sad occurrences when it comes to these kinds of situations, and unfortunately their family should have loved them enough to go about it the right way, knowing full well that deportation was a possibility.
PMC
June 2nd, 2011
11:32 am
So what is the additional paperwork that people have to carry?
JT
June 2nd, 2011
11:34 am
Aiding and abetting, and harboring fugitives from the law are AGAINST the LAW….period…
harold
June 2nd, 2011
11:35 am
Yes let’s do be a nation of laws, starting with our Constitutional law spelling out freedom from unwarranted search and seizure.
You say the Constitution does not protect the rights of illegals, huh.
How do you know if somebody is legal or not until you have already searched and seized them? Oh golly, you can’t know until it’s too late.
Whoops you were legal! Uh. You were searched for your own safety. You should thank us for doing our jobs keeping you seafe. Good day. And watch yourself next time, pal.
Mr Sandman
June 2nd, 2011
11:37 am
I was out boating on lake lanier, in hall county. I was pulled over by the police for boat registration, they asked for my DL which i left in the car. I told them it was in the car, the next question they asked me where i was born? I looked at him and asked if he was serious.
I know hall deports, so yes they profile like crazy. My parents are Mexican and in the country LEGALLY!! As well as i am. I think with this law its only going to get worse for everyone. Keep in mind their are alot of Asians, Hmong, Chineese and so forth here illegally, it just isnt mexican.
I really think they using peoples fears of no jobs on illegals. Look at the bigger picture!
Willis
June 2nd, 2011
11:40 am
Thank God for the ACLU. Otherwise the police state would win.
gsmith
June 2nd, 2011
11:41 am
the arguement for that the aclu and illegal immigrants make for their case is not logical ! it makes no sense
Firewoman
June 2nd, 2011
11:42 am
… You can sit back in your McMansion (affordable because of cheap illegal labor)
Aqaugirl, your double-wide trailer is worth about what you paid for it back in 1999. You seem a little pissy that you could never afford a McMansion. Bet you can’t afford to pay for legally picked produce, either. Such a pity poor Aquagirl!
C’mon girl, spout out some hateful liberal retort. Key words you could use are as follows: racist, redneck, Christian, etc….
Pelican Brief
June 2nd, 2011
11:42 am
@Harold…People have the luxury of trying to disect our constitution, and by law they have a right to challenge it. But, its the main thing thats seperate us from animals and others tryng to impose of americans. Sorry you feel the law enforement do you a disservice, but you do sleep safely at night, right?
Obama
June 2nd, 2011
11:42 am
Contractor,
Here are some facts for you. Everytime an Illegal person pumps gas they pay taxes, everytime that Illegal goes and buy clothes they pay taxes, everytime that Ilegal goes to a restaurant, guess what? they pay taxes. In 2000 the state of California made over 30 million dollars from Illegals Aliens, that amount over compensate the “free health care, food stamps, etc..” My question is California got all that money.. Do you know where the money is?? Well nobody does.. ummm maybe the goverment took it.
Jessica from Brazil
June 2nd, 2011
11:43 am
I am Hispanic. I am here legally. I have never been in any country illegally. I pay a lot in taxes. I pay a lot for my car insurance. I have no problem carrying id to prove that I am here legally…. as long as everyone has to do the same thing.
The only thing I find offensive is those that are here illegally taking resources away from those of us that work hard and pay taxes and give people like me a bad name.
Justin
June 2nd, 2011
11:43 am
@Contractor
I know but some also pay taxs and they a illigally but kids are also have a right to education. why are we helping kids over seas then?? they arent Amaricans? but are taxs are PAYING FOR ROADS IN ANOTHER COUNTRY..
Jerry
June 2nd, 2011
11:44 am
There will always be these heart rending exceptions, like the Catholic nun, the Cuban refugee, etc etc that are surfaced to make the case that laws shouldn’t be enforced. It’s wrong to give someone a speeding ticket because they were just hurrying to get to their kid’s soccer game. It’s wrong to arrest the bank robber because he just needed some money to buy food. If it feels good, do it.
If left to the ACLU types it would be “anything goes”, and civilized society would eventually just come apart.
Justin
June 2nd, 2011
11:45 am
@Obama
TRUE!!
harold
June 2nd, 2011
11:46 am
Sleeping safely at night (or not) has nothing to do with any police. All the police do is write reports for insurance companies and detectives AFTER something happened.
Tommy T.
June 2nd, 2011
11:46 am
“..– One of the main components is the allegation that the law will result in racial profiling..” Say What??
That’s like saying: ‘I guess my wife having a baby will lead to child molestation’ ! Or driving my car will lead to a flat tire..
These bozos sit around and make these stupid scenarios so a liberal judge will agree!
truth
June 2nd, 2011
11:46 am
I Luv Legal Produce ,
Did your check come in the mail??
Kelly VaHi
June 2nd, 2011
11:52 am
@ Justin
You have terrible grammar and therefore your point is invalid. Clearly nobody thought to give you an education.
MyPatootie
June 2nd, 2011
11:53 am
This article reminded me of what I just read last night in the Moultie Observer, a South GA newspaper. For those who don’t know it, that county (Colquitt) is loaded with illegal immigrants due to the agricultural jobs. Last I saw the Hispanic population there was about 17%, which was second only to Dalton (Whitfield Co. ) in Georgia. Guess what is happening there now? Looks like what is going on in Mexico is spilling over into GA (Moultrie) and it’s not even a border state. Read yesterday’s Observer and you will see where a Hispanic man was found dead (stabbed) in his truck over the weekend and several houses were shot up. A couple of Mexicans have been arrested for at least one of the shootings. It will take over that area soon, and the citizens who are not rising up, will just say, “what happened”? By the way, that’s Saxby Chambliss’ hometown. Go figure !!!!
harold
June 2nd, 2011
11:53 am
The law will NOT result in racial profiling if it is applied to absolutely everyone whom the police encounter. Profiling of some sort will be applied otherwise. They will call it “language based profiling” so it isn’t racial. So there, it’s not racial. It’s that you sound funny.
IRS
June 2nd, 2011
11:53 am
“Did your check come in the mail??”
No, I understand it went to some illegal alien named “truth” and his large anchor family
Tom (Independent)
June 2nd, 2011
11:53 am
DTA@10:27 – What is an UNAUTHORIZED immigrant that you mentioned about the tax issue?? That’s a new term to me. Always thought it was either Legal or Illegal immigrants?
Kelly VaHi
June 2nd, 2011
11:54 am
@ Jerry
Very well said.
Realist
June 2nd, 2011
11:54 am
I’m sick to death of talk-radio types blaming the lack of serious immigration reform in this country on liberals. Look who steps up every time to knock down any serious legislation – the agra industry, the hospitality industry, the construction industry, the ever reactionary and extremely rightwing U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Even the south Florida Republican Cuban community weighs-in against reform. These are very well financed, well organized, politically connected (right wing) groups.
Yeah, the ACLU and other liberal groups take a stand too but compared to these other groups the liberal groups have no power or effectiveness.
Rightwingers, if you want effective immigration reform in this country then clean-up your own house.
truth
June 2nd, 2011
11:56 am
Where is the uproar with all the AID the US gives to other countries??
Heck we spent billions in Iraq/Afghanistan. We give millions to African countries.
At least illegals contribute back into the economy.
The other countries will never give one dime back.
Wow
June 2nd, 2011
11:56 am
So the illegals are the ones destroying society? That is an unreal statement. We Americans always want to blame something/somebody for our shortcomings when we fail and for some reason most of you are pointing the finger at these people who came to help this country and help themselves. Also, most of you act like all Americans pay their bills on time and never default on loans, or cheat on their taxes. That seems very naive. Illegals do pay taxes, illegals do work we dont want to do, illegals provide culture and they spend a lot of money in this economy. Marta is having trouble now, what happens when a lot of illegals move out…it will go under. Who will we blame then? Can you imagine how much $$ these people spend in our stores today? With laws like this all of their spending will be shifted to somewhere else, outside GA. This has terrible economic backlash associated with it. A lot of you make generalizations based off opinions and word of mouth, I highly doubt any of you have any actual figures/facts to back up your rhetoric. The underlying factor here has nothing to do with the illegal immigrants. It has to do with the melting pot that Atlanta is. We house people from around the world who came here legally to work and have a better life, now with this new law, they will be harrassed and possibly taken to jail if they are not carrying the proper i.d. on them at all times. I for one will only carry my liscence on me and will not abide by this law. I will sue this state if I am pulled over and taken to jail and then laugh at you ignorant followers as I rip the states money and move to a state that welcomes everyone. A lot of you are missing the point here. We are exposing ourselves (State of GA) to bad press and multiple lawsuits that will be won by the persons suing.
Obama
June 2nd, 2011
11:57 am
@Kelly VaHi
Who you think you are to judge Justin because of his grammar. Justin has the right to express his opinion regardless of the way he express it. There is something call freedom of speech..
Contractor
June 2nd, 2011
11:59 am
Obama,
When they have kids enrolled in our public education it cost us atleast $10,000 a year. When they have kids in our hospitals it cost over $12,000 to give birth in a hospital. Are they paying that much in taxes, cause the pennies in taxes they are paying for goods doesn’t add up to crap in the scheme of things. Most illegals are scared to come out as well, and they shop at their Mexican grocery stores to conserve money they send back to Mexico. You can continue to throw out your little statements that monetarily add up to pennies based on the total amounts they are consuming in this country. I love your comment about California, seeing as they are bankrupt and one of the most worthless states in this country at the moment. They are being sucked dry by the illegals. Look at their penitentiaries, their debt, and that should pretty much tell the story on your amazing statistic about California.
Justin,
The number of illegals supposedly paying taxes adds up to nothing when you look at the number that are in this country and leaching off of our society. They get into car wrecks without insurance and 100% of the cost is on the other driver, they get food stamps, free medical, no taxes, education, and a ton of other things that they are costing American citizens. We are helping kids overseas to help educate them and pull them out of the poverty stricken state their country is in. It’s another thing when a family comes here illegally and breaks our laws and slides in under the radar costing Americans more money in taxes when they don’t offer up anything. It’s the principle of the fact, laws are broken, and they DO NOT want to make it right, they want to skate by on a free ride.
Margo
June 2nd, 2011
11:59 am
I recently got in a car accident with an illegal immigrant. Spoke no English and of course had no insurance. So in addition to paying for her four children’s education, healthcare and mostly likely their food, I now have to pay to fix my own car. Yes my insurance will pay for it but I will still have to pay the deductible. It took me 3 years to save up to buy this car.
And worse, all she got was a ticket for having no insurance, not having a registered vehicle, driving without a license and following too close. What are the chances any of these tickets will actually get paid?
Dave
June 2nd, 2011
12:01 pm
PLEASE stop with the “undocumented” CRAP the are here ILLEGALLY therefore they are ILLEGAL ALIENS!
joe
June 2nd, 2011
12:03 pm
What a crock…illegal is illegal is illegal. Stop the madness…
Justin
June 2nd, 2011
12:04 pm
theres Americans with not insuransce out there hello theres homeless not paying taxs its everybody not just mexicans.. thanks
Thank u @Obama
T in S> Atl
June 2nd, 2011
12:05 pm
No, all Americans are NOT destroying the USA. It is the ones disproportionately representing welfare and prison populations. You know the ones you typically see in the news robbing and murdering? Those are the legal Americans destroying this country and the liberals that continue to fund and make excuses for their stupidity, greed and laziness.
Many illegal immigrants do work hard and value education and work. However, they are still here illegally as in illegal or against the law.
joe
June 2nd, 2011
12:07 pm
@ Obama re:11:42 post–If Cali made $30 million off illegal’s taxes on goods and services, that is a drop in the bucket compared to the BILLIONS spent on their healthcare, housing, education, food stamps, etc that LEGAL Cali tax payers provided. Your figures are greatly inaccurate.
T in S> Atl
June 2nd, 2011
12:08 pm
@ Justin and to all
If you can’t spell or to not have spell check then please just stop posting…whether someone agrees or disagrees with your (not you’re) comments, you just sound like a complete idiot.
harold
June 2nd, 2011
12:09 pm
Georgia’s legislators who passed this law are COUNTING on the ACLU to have it vacated. Duh. This way the politicians get to act like they did something and keep their base happy all the while knowing they are doing nothing. The ACLU is the unwitting foil of Nathan Deal and Saxby and friends.
lllegal immigration is solved by securing borders, not by hassling people on the street. So why do Nathan and Saxby and Dr Rice and that guy with the hair and their friends not secure Georgia’s borders?
If these guys were at all serious about it, every road at the state line would be an inspection point! But no, they are just bluffing until the storm blows over (which will be when an R is in the Oval Office again and outrage stops being manufactured)
“Well, we tried, but that dang ACLU messed it all up for us. Vote for us again!!! It was the ACLU!”
Obama
June 2nd, 2011
12:09 pm
@Contractor
The situation that the state of California is currently in is due a corruption in power. The statement was based in 2000 data. I feel bad the state of California being in the situation they are, but do you really think that by kicking everybody out will solve the situation. Also, your statistics do not make any sence according to the reports of US Census bureau. Check your facts before you get in a coversation that you obviously think is wise.
Justin
June 2nd, 2011
12:11 pm
OHH IM SORRY I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY IM FREE AND I CAN SAY WHATEVER I WANT TO SAY!!
ITS AMERICA
Living by Example
June 2nd, 2011
12:12 pm
@Living by the Laws of the US
Just how am I being hypocritical? I’d really like to hear how you’ll substantiate this. Go ahead, I’ll give you time to check the dictionary first…
By the way, it’s pretty revealing that you’d assume I am a man. Thank God I chose not to have children. Maybe I saved them from people like you. I’m assuming you have a great relationship with your own kids?
DIT
June 2nd, 2011
12:14 pm
IT’S ALL ABOUT BEING HERE LEGALLY!!
Bottom line. Go through the proper procedures to live in the country and no one has any issues. When ILLEGALS jump our boarders and get FREE Health & Medical, take jobs because they will accept less, form Americans, then that’s where I have a problem.
My wife & I adopted 3 children from overseas in the former Soviet Union. We did everything we had to do before entering that country and living there for 8 weeks. Then, we went through all the proper procedures to bring back all 3 of our children so they are here LEGALLY!!!
It’s a slap in my families face along with others that went through the same process when we see these ILLEGALS not having a care in the world to jump the boarders, and then on top of that complain about America.
Ship all 12 million plus of them out of here and make them come here LEGALLY! Again, come here legally and there is no issue. This is a no brainer. The people defending the ILLEGALS just don’t get it OR they need to be paying their taxes to the ILLEGALS themselves. I for one am tired of it!
T in S> Atl
June 2nd, 2011
12:15 pm
And Obama – It is sense not sence. It is pretty telling that those liberals on here are the ones that cannot spell….hmmmm.
La Loba
June 2nd, 2011
12:15 pm
I can’t wait to get pulled over for being Hispanic, bring it on Cobb County!
Chris
June 2nd, 2011
12:18 pm
If you are here illegally, you are committing a crime. Hence the term “ILLEGAL”. I have no problem with anyone who came into this country in a legal manner. However, the government will have a hard time with illegal immigrants who have children that were born in this country. Is it their fault that their parents came here illegaly?
Either way, something has to be done about this mess. Those that are illegal immigrants and have committed crimes while in this country should be deported immediately.
jconservative
June 2nd, 2011
12:19 pm
“Jewish American != Israeli. Republicans have been dreaming for decades of capturing the Jewish vote in the US by sucking up to Israel and it hasn’t worked.”
Correct. And there is a reason. The Jewish vote is a minority vote. And since the Goldwater campaign the Republican Party has not been pro-minority, any minority. Before Goldwater the most solid voting block in the country was the black vote for Republicans, the party of Lincoln. No more!
Bush 43 made an attempt to pick up the Latino vote during his first term but received no help from the congressional side of his party. So the Latino vote is still Democratic.
This may not be logical or make sense but it is the way the country votes.
harold
June 2nd, 2011
12:19 pm
I did not legally immigrate to the USA. I just so happened to fall out my mama in downtown Atlanta over on Boulevard. So why am I in a better position legally than others who did not legally immigrate? Legality was arbitrarily bestowed upon me by latitude and longitude when I fell out. That makes all kinds of sense.
Rob Woodall has always had government healthcare - That's how it works when you've never held a job in the private sector
June 2nd, 2011
12:19 pm
The 1967 borders have always been proposed as a rough starting point for peace negotiations. Nothing new there.
td
June 2nd, 2011
12:22 pm
La Loba
June 2nd, 2011
12:15 pm
I can’t wait to get pulled over for being Hispanic, bring it on Cobb County!
And I hope if you are an A$$ about it then the nice officer will take out his stick and beat you over the head. You should be proud of being here legally or being a citizen. You did things the right way. My wife is came here the right way from Asia and said she will be more than happy to prove her citizenship every time she gets pulled over. She said it is the price you have to pay to live in a great country.
INN (Illegal News Network)
June 2nd, 2011
12:24 pm
The illegal alien lobby frequently touts the statistic that illegal alien workers contribute $7 billion each year to Social Security. They fail to note that for every $1 illegal aliens contribute to Social Security, they withdraw $10 in other government benefits.
The New York Times wrote in a 2005 article, “The estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year.” The Heritage Foundation addressed this contention in its 2007 report, The Fiscal Cost of Low-Skill Immigrants to the U.S. Taxpayer:
It is true that low-skill immigrant households pay, on average, around $2,900 per year in Social Security (FICA) taxes; however, the average Social Security and Medicare benefits they receive actually exceed the FICA taxes paid. Of course, low-skill immigrant households receive many other government benefits as well, receiving ten dollars in total government benefits for each dollar they pay in Social Security taxes.
Eighty percent of illegal aliens are low-skilled.1 For every $1 they contribute to Social Security, low-skilled illegal aliens withdraw $10 in total government benefits. Just looking at one federal benefits program, Social Security, is sure to lead a person to a wrong answer because there are more than 60 different federal benefit programs. Illegal aliens are not eligible for many of these programs, but their U.S. born children are, or one person in the household is legal and can get benefits that help everybody in the household, or the individuals use fraudulent documents to obtain benefits.
It is easy to grasp how it is impossible for illegal aliens to cover the costs they impose on society by their modest contribution to social security. The New York Times article profiled Angel Martinez, an illegal alien from Mexico. He worked up to 70 hours a week for wages varying between $8.50 to $12.75 per hour. The article said he paid $2,000 per year in Social Security.
But for every Angel Martinez, there is the Gonzalez family of illegal aliens. The Gonzalez family was appealing enough to be featured on the reality television show “30 Days” in the episode titled “Immigration.” (The producers left off the word, “Illegal.”) This family of 2 adults and 5 children resided in Los Angeles, and had one wage earner who earned less than $15,000 per year. Simple common sense says that $15,000 does not go very far in supporting 7 people in Los Angeles. The rest of the cost falls upon the taxpayers and charitable assistance. In Los Angeles, the per pupil, per year expenditure on public education in 2001-2002 was $13,074. If each of the five children goes to school for 13 years (K-12), the cost to educate the children is $850,000, all of it paid for by California taxpayers.
This one family needs 425 Angel Martinez’s contributing to social security to make up for the educational cost imposed on the United States by their children. The Heritage Foundation study also notes that illegal alien children becoming rocket scientists or internet tycoons is extremely rare. Unless the Gonzalez children attain an upper middle class salary, it is unlikely that during their entire working lives they will pay enough in taxes to repay the United States for the cost of their upbringing, and the Gonzalez children will in turn have children of their own, who will probably go into the public schools.
Bobby
June 2nd, 2011
12:27 pm
Illegals don’t pay property taxes, income tax, social security tax, school tax, federal or state tax, health care payments…etc
But U.S. citizens pay these taxes, plus their taxes.
jconservative
June 2nd, 2011
12:27 pm
Immigration.
I still maintain the solution to the illegal immigration is Reagan’s Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.
I am not a big Reagan fan as most of you know, but this is one of the things he got right.
td
June 2nd, 2011
12:30 pm
BTW: My Asian born citizen wife and all of her citizen family wants all illegals (of any race) forcibly removed so that it will open up more slots for their relatives to come here legally.
Katy Watts
June 2nd, 2011
12:30 pm
I just don’t get it. They are here ILLEGALLY!!!! What happened to abiding by the law? Oh but its o.k. when an illegal driving drunk kills somebody. I have several friends who are here from another country legally. They are extremely resentful of those individuals who have decided to break the law to be in this country. The ACLA needs to find a better use of its time.
Vote for Pedro
June 2nd, 2011
12:31 pm
llegals don’t pay property taxes, income tax, social security tax, school tax, federal or state tax, health care payments.. Neither do the unemployed housewives in the Religious Right. Let’s get rid of them!!!! All THEY do is baby sitting, cleaning, cooking, gardening.. USELESS!
jconservative
June 2nd, 2011
12:32 pm
“Illegals don’t pay property taxes, income tax, social security tax, school tax, federal or state tax…”
This is factually incorrect. The Social Security administration has a big pile of money sitting in the kitty that was collected and sent in on forged, stolen and duplicate Social Security numbers. Congress has attempted to resolve the ownership of those funds but no bill ever gets out of committee.
So the money sits there and helps hold the deficit down.
papason
June 2nd, 2011
12:34 pm
I love it how people keep yelling how they will be profiled.. Do you actually understand how criminal procedure works? Cop cant just pull you over just cause he feels like without probale casue such as tag expired or something then from there they can use ARS to go from there.. If you arent illegal you have nothing to worry about..
td
June 2nd, 2011
12:35 pm
jconservative
June 2nd, 2011
12:27 pm
Giving amnesty without verification that the border was secure first was the worst thing Reagan did in office. I will never go along with any policy that hint of anymore amnesty. All illegals must go back to their own country and get in line and wait if they still want to come here.
James B.
June 2nd, 2011
12:35 pm
What about my civil rights? I can’t afford to pay for the undocumented workers any more. I don’t understand why some people on here think I should have to spend my own money to support them. Just one example of what they cost me every month can be seen in my insurance premium. I use to pay a $5 co pay, now I pay $40, I didn’t have a deductible, but now its $1000 and at the same time my monthly premium has tripled. Why? The cost of my health care has gone up so much to cover the illegal undocumented immigrants. But according to some on this site I’m a racist if I don’t want to keep paying more to cover their health cost. I would love to see the originating country of these workers cover their tab, but we will never see that. However, I have a different solution for the problem; don’t punish the illegal worker, punish the businesses who hire them. Who knows, maybe then you could have open borders, without all this drama and problems.
papason
June 2nd, 2011
12:38 pm
And im a Black male and only once in my 30 years have I ever been profiled
DIT
June 2nd, 2011
12:38 pm
@jconservative
In my line of work I know that subcontractors are paying these ILLEGALS “under the table” so they get paid stright cash. Majority of the Illegals are laborers and get paid cash! Therefore, they are not paying any kind of taxes or social security. That’s just a fact. Some might be, but most of the 12 million plus ILLEGALS are not!
elroy
June 2nd, 2011
12:38 pm
Right on Bobby! & sure the latinos have to worry about profiling, but it’s because the estimated count of illegals (mostly latino) in georgia is near half million. latinos are already using the race card. illegal means not allowed or not permitted.
Katy Watts
June 2nd, 2011
12:38 pm
HEY HAROLD, YOU’RE AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DIT
June 2nd, 2011
12:40 pm
Sorry that’s straight, not stright
elroy
June 2nd, 2011
12:45 pm
“This is again the ACLU demonstrating that they are out of the mainstream and out of touch with the concerns of average hardworking Georgians,” & the lawsuit argues it Bill is a betrayal of american values. Makes no sense. the people arguing against the bill aren’t american. & most of us came from immigrants has no merit as it’s not the 1800’s any more. Times change & now is time for those that shouldn’t be here to go back to their own country.
Not So Casual observer
June 2nd, 2011
12:48 pm
@ Obama,
Your assertion California takes in $30 Million in taxes from illegals is amusing. The city of Los Angeles loses billions of dollars every year on the illegal population. The rest of California loses billions more.
How do you address the claim by the illegal population of the United States that portions of the West and Southwest belong to Mexico and the plan is to restore Mexican control over these states? la raza indeed!
The claim by Aquagirl that the laws were not enforced ten years ago so we should ignore the problem now is ignorant beyond belief. I will wait to hear from Aquagirl when her family suffers from the drunk driver who just happens to be illegal or when she is forced from her home by burdensome taxes to support the illegal population.
All of you who support illegal immigration should be volunteering to pay their expenses, assist them to legal status, take them into your homes, feed their children, and take responsibility for their medical expenses.
To argue the US used the illegals and should now support them is infantile.
Contractor
June 2nd, 2011
12:49 pm
Obama,
My stats are flawed? I guess seeing the bill of my child’s birth at Kennestone Hospital with my very own eyes is not good enough evidence? I guess the Georgia Department of Education isn’t a good source either?
Contractor
June 2nd, 2011
12:50 pm
Obama,
Your $30 million dollar statistic is a drop in the bucket compared to this…
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm
Take a quick look at the cost of educating these illegals as well…
http://www.mnforsustain.org/immg_costs_of_educating_legal_illegals_fair.htm
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
June 2nd, 2011
12:56 pm
The nun’s story would tug one’s heart were it not for the fact that her church runs ads in Spanish on the radio explaining to the illegals how to get welfare in our country. The illegals are pawns, unfortunate as they may be to have to return to their country to overthrow the Old Sectarian Order’s regime of king and pope to share in the American Dream, as we had to in 1776: they are pawns in the Roman false-elite Fifth Column’s published stratagem to “taking back” America from those their literature claims “stole it” from the ancestors and co-religionists of Hispanic Roman Catholics.
We must arrest this tax-free treason and those subverting the Constitution in Congress and on the SCOTUS. Any patriot can read a copy of their marching orders for taking over America through the promotion and protection of illegal immigration, legal aid, naturalization/amnesty, and voter registration to “construct the Kingdom of God in the United States:” The National Pastoral Plan for Hispanic Ministry” is a the Library of Congress, your local RC diocesan library and at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/National-Publication-Publishing-Promotion-Conference/dp/1555861997
The nun is doing what her priest told her to do. He was told by his bishop, who was told by his cardinal. It is a quasi-military organization…and “they” know what “they” are doing. If we allow them, they will continue to attempt to “gaslight” the rest of us as they repeal the American, liberal, revolution against the Old Sectarian Order of king and pope, which, since time immemorial, ruled the world before Our Founders’ broke free to make the Individual sovereign instead of a chief, pedophile priesthood, or potentate.
Voting for future
June 2nd, 2011
1:03 pm
You know, I get pulled over and they want to see my drivers license, no big deal its the law. Legals carry the same thing and a visa if they are here legally. Should be no big deal with them either. However, illegals carry nothing and take everything. Theres the big deal. I dont care about profiling any more. I want the laws carried out. Im tired of the high taxes for people who pay nothing and take it all. Whens it the working Americans turn? No really, when is it our turn?
Matt
June 2nd, 2011
1:03 pm
Perhaps we should just all move to Mexico and get it back on track. Leave America to the idiots and watch it burn. Plus Mexico has great beaches!
mum
June 2nd, 2011
1:07 pm
Yes, illegals do pay all variety of taxes as mentioned before by using forged documents. Also, please remember that illegals come in all colors and ethnicities. One thing people fail to know is that legal residents are not citizens, but they too pay social security, etc. Immigration is a huge business in this country so don’t beat up on the ACLU since lawyers make a fortune on this and so does the government. With residency application fees going up every year, and the application fee for citizenship at almost $1,000 per applicant. As to the guest worker program, it’s been in existance forever so nothing new there. For those of you who have a problem with people having multiple children, remember that many religions prohibit the use of birth control so this is the result.
Texas Tea
June 2nd, 2011
1:13 pm
mum,
“For those of you who have a problem with people having multiple children, remember that many religions prohibit the use of birth control so this is the result.”
So that should come at OUR cost?
Ryan Shakur
June 2nd, 2011
1:13 pm
I wonder what any of you would do if you see a man; injured and laying on the side of the road. Would you check his ID before you help him? Would you need to run him through e-Verify to be sure he is who he says he is? Or would you just simply help? It is marvelous to see that in today’s society, we have ignored the acts of kindness and understanding to pass judgment on those we only know by virtue of STATUS. “Illegal” would best describe your “settlers” of this nation…yet we look past history to condemn and demonize these people. I can’t defend everyone in GA who is “illegal” but I can say this, you that place the square blame on all of the “illegals” ought to be blaming the founders of such an institution: your FOREFATHERS. Because not all of them were bad people with bad intentions; but ALL of them were to blame….well, you get the picture
Norcross
June 2nd, 2011
1:19 pm
I just learned that the ILLEGAL family that lived down the street from me here in Gwinnett is being foreclosed on! How in the heck does an illegal alien get to purchase a home in the US? I would not have believed it if I were not shown the facts in the public notice section of the local newspaper. Upon further review of the listing, most of the names on this LONG LIST are not JOE SMITH, they are mostly immigrants.
No wonder the foreclosures here in ATL won’t go away! I have just about had enough with what we have had to endure with illegals and their constant taking from US. I am willing to suffer through more pain and money to see that they are all sent back to what ever country they came from.
It is sad what our federal government has done to us, now the stats are having to clean up their mess.
Frederick Douglass
June 2nd, 2011
1:20 pm
What Larry Sabato said about the Jewish vote is exactly what I said two weeks ago. Obama’s statement about the 1967 borders carries little weight when compared to the mean spirited attitudes displayed daily by right wingers, the same can be said of Hispanics. Republicans are living in La La land if they think that people that have been traditionally disenfranchised by groups that eerily resemble conservatives, are going to flock to the polls to vote for these neo-money changers. History trumps this modern day, made up fake outrage, that’s largely hiding your distaste for a minority president,
catlady
June 2nd, 2011
1:21 pm
No one needs to be doing “acts of kindness” for those people! If they are broken down beside the road in the dark, or in bad weather, or in dangerous neighborhoods, just let them suffer!
Douglas @ 10 am: Obviously you don’t have freckles!
mum
June 2nd, 2011
1:21 pm
Texas Tea, absolutely not at our cost. My comment was mainly for those who assume people are having kids just to leech off the rest of us. Most Latinos come from countries where that church is Catholic and their religion forbids contraception and abortion. Religion tends to have an extremely strong hold on the poor and under educated. I have 2 kids and already hate the thought that I support a bunch or native born women who don’t now and probably never will do anything but have kids they you and I have to pay for.
Jimenez
June 2nd, 2011
1:21 pm
“I wonder what any of you would do if you see a man; injured and laying on the side of the road. Would you check his ID before you help him? Would you need to run him through e-Verify to be sure he is who he says he is? Or would you just simply help? It is marvelous to see that in today’s society, we have ignored the acts of kindness and understanding to pass judgment on those we only know by virtue of STATUS. “Illegal” would best describe your “settlers” of this nation…yet we look past history to condemn and demonize these people. I can’t defend everyone in GA who is “illegal” but I can say this, you that place the square blame on all of the “illegals” ought to be blaming the founders of such an institution: your FOREFATHERS. Because not all of them were bad people with bad intentions; but ALL of them were to blame….well, you get the picture”
Take him to the hospital so he can get all of his needs taken care of for FREE while the taxpayers continue to pay the bill. What a good life to be an illegal in the US! Viva America!
catlady
June 2nd, 2011
1:23 pm
Somehow the additional comment did not show up. That was, the first paragraph was said tongue in cheek.
papason
June 2nd, 2011
2:01 pm
Norcross: they use Fake id and socials to attain credit, You dont realize how many ive caught coming into my office to file bankruptcy on a social that isnt theirs.. They have attained 100k plus in debt and they just come up with a new socail and keep it going. Yet if u or I did this wo would go to prison in a heartbeat
papason
June 2nd, 2011
2:05 pm
Furthermore, im sure some would argue that anyone cant use a fake social but the main difference when you are illegal you have nothing that can be traced because to the system you dont even exit where..
nick
June 2nd, 2011
2:15 pm
I think it is time to rename the “Tea Party” the Kool-aid party, because so many are drinking it. In reality undocumented seems like a fair term, because even those of us who are documented are really illegal aliens. How convenient to forget the Native Americans from whom this land was stolen. So face it, you and your ancestors were/are illegal aliens too. And there is no statute of limitations. Additionally, we pretty much invited these illegal/undocumented workers in, seeing as how we were all for cheap labor during the boom years. All anyone does is talk about the costs of undocumented workers. Actually, they are not eligible for most government assistance… and many of their children are American citizens. And they buy groceries and cloths, rent homes, and throw parties (have you ever been to a Quinceañera (the Latin equivalent of a Sweet Sixteen party)? I have, and I can tell you the families spare no expense. When these families leave Georgia, and our economy goes back into recession, and thousands more homes and apartments are vacated, then all the Xenophobes will be crying, and blaming someone else. And it won’t be just the illegal/undocumenteds who leave. A lot of documented/legal people will leave as well. Who wants to hang around and be profiled, even if you have the paperwork to fend off the indignity. Their community is being driven out, their friends and families are being targeted. Nathan Deal is already perplexed because migrant workers are passing up Georgia to pick elsewhere. Wake up Gov. Deal. Would you go to a state where you are not welcome when you can just as easily go to one where you are. So as we speak, Georgia’s fruits and veggies are rotting in the fields. Tea Partiers… it is time to become Tea-Pickers. Prove to us that “legal citizens” want the work. And I certainly don’t want to hear any complaints when food prices go through the roof.
Wake up people. You reap what you sow. And right now, it is a bunch of rotten, decomposing matter.
td
June 2nd, 2011
3:03 pm
nick
June 2nd, 2011
2:15 pm
“In reality undocumented seems like a fair term, because even those of us who are documented are really illegal aliens. How convenient to forget the Native Americans from whom this land was stolen.”
That is a little revisionist history. We did not steal the land. We conquered the land through battle with the inhabitants. How do you think they got the land in the first place? In war the winners get to reap the benefits. It has been that way throughout history.
RGB
June 2nd, 2011
3:55 pm
I’m always amused when the leftist statists call Republicans, and conservatives, “mean”.
I think a 17% real unemployment rate is mean. I believe a $14 trillion debt heaped upon both us and future generations is really mean. A $1.8t trillion annual deficit is terribly mean. Denouncing a plan to save us from certain financial destruction (while offering no plan) is undeniably mean. Destroying our healthcare system and replacing it with one that will cost more, ration care, and kick millions off of the insurance they now have is mean. Cutting a half trillion dollars from Medicare to pay for it is also mean to seniors. And risking soldiers’ lives and our treasure by starting another war with no objective while ignoring the War Powers Act is really mean.
Words are one thing but it’s pretty clear that liberals/statists/leftists/Democrats are mean because of their multitudinous mean actions.
And actions speak louder….
Vote for Pedro
June 2nd, 2011
3:56 pm
We did not steal the land. We conquered the land. Ha. When somebody beat you upside the head and steal your wallet, does “I conquered the wallet” fly with the judge? Don’t think so. Stealing is stealing.
Occupancy of this land was stolen, just as all occupancy of all land was stolen at some point.
The Illegals will probably steal it from us. You are on the losing side this time. Get over it if you want to live. We killed all the Indians who didn’t at least claim to get over it. Careful or we may suffer the same fate! Learn Spanish start smiling and you will probably have a bright future here. Ole!
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SaveOurRepublic
June 2nd, 2011
5:25 pm
While the ACLU is solid on privacy rights, this is one of the MANY areas they’re totally mistaken. First of all, illegal invaders are NOT Americans (…got that American Civil Liberties Union); secondly the invaders are de-facto law breakers. If the fedgov won’t fight the invasion, states have to. The ACLU (as usual) is way off the mark on this.
nick cries ...
June 2nd, 2011
6:03 pm
… So as we speak, Georgia’s fruits and veggies are rotting in the fields. Tea Partiers… it is time to become Tea-Pickers. Prove to us that “legal citizens” want the work. And I certainly don’t want to hear any complaints when food prices go through the roof. Wake up people. You reap what you sow. And right now, it is a bunch of rotten, decomposing matter.
Such melodramatic bullcrap from the left. You liberals claim to know everything, but your tiny pea brains and hollow arguments prove otherwise. You go pick the produce in the fields, nick and stop going to all these “Quinceañera” parties to try and pick up little latino girls. How disgusting! The rotten, decomposing matter on the blog is nick!
Texas Tea
June 2nd, 2011
6:05 pm
mum,
Well those people having too many babies need to learn how to keep it in their pants. It’s all about accepting personal responsibility. If contraception is a no no to their religion, then they need to practice abstinence, because sex is not something that is forced to have or a law to have, it is a way of pleasure that people use and obviously the way to reproduce. If their religion doesn’t allow them to practice safe sex, then they need to just not to do it. It’s as plain as that. Just because they want to romp a million times doesn’t mean American society should be responsible for their religious beliefs and the financial burden be thrown upon us, whom had no choice in this, but they do hold the choice to not have sex and run the possibility of getting pregnant every time.
oakwood dawg
June 2nd, 2011
6:15 pm
i have a simple soultion here if ya”ll don’t want to obey the laws it is quite simple GO HOME to what ever crap hole country you came from. tax payers are tired of footing the bill your welfare and doctors bill and driving illegally and hurting and killing innocent people. just pack your stuff and go home, the border swings both ways jesus
Get a Life
June 2nd, 2011
6:16 pm
“And they buy groceries and cloths, rent homes, and throw parties (have you ever been to a Quinceañera (the Latin equivalent of a Sweet Sixteen party)? I have, and I can tell you the families spare no expense.”
Nick, what Walmart and trailer park do you live near? Do you meet many of girls at these gawdy street parties you frequent? Have you busted the pinata open yet? You really should venture out into more prominent social circles.
Legal Lover
June 2nd, 2011
6:30 pm
“Nathan Deal is already perplexed because migrant workers are passing up Georgia to pick elsewhere. Wake up Gov. Deal. Would you go to a state where you are not welcome when you can just as easily go to one where you are. So as we speak, Georgia’s fruits and veggies are rotting in the fields. Tea Partiers… it is time to become Tea-Pickers. Prove to us that “legal citizens” want the work. And I certainly don’t want to hear any complaints when food prices go through the roof.
Wake up people. You reap what you sow. And right now, it is a bunch of rotten, decomposing matter.”
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There is a DROUGHT you nimrods, it’s been all over the news for pete’s sake! But morons like you claim it’s illegals leaving because of the new law. Liberals and illegal sympathizers like to cherry-pick (pun intended) their opinions.
Illegals can keep running to other states and soon threre will be no place to go but home. The most cost effective approach and way to save illegal families from more hardship would be to go home now. Learn your lessons the hard way. Other states will be pulling in the “Welcome” mat quicker than AZ & GA did.
Mother Nature
June 2nd, 2011
6:37 pm
I will take credit for the illegal aliens leaving the state of GA. No law on the books can do what I am doing. I answer to someone much higher.
bigdawg
June 2nd, 2011
6:38 pm
If Amerika is really going the police-state route, at least we should be honest and return the Statue of Liberty back to the French b/c Amerika certainly isnt’ intereste in the tired, the poor or the huddled masses yearning to be free. All modern-day Amerika cares about is white victimhood and trying to oppress minorities, women, the old, the weak, the infirm and the children!
nick
June 2nd, 2011
7:05 pm
Seems like my comments got under a lot of people’s skin. My wife is an ESOL teacher and we occasionally attend student functions. Leave it to some scared xenophobes to use my attending a student’s birthday party with my wife as an opportunity to expose their own perverted urges. If I were their friend, I’d be afraid to invite them to a family get together.
I have traveled to Africa, Asia, and South America and have friends from all cultures. Don’t be afraid of people who are different. They are not out to get you.
BrownSugahSistah
June 2nd, 2011
7:59 pm
The issue of illegal immigration in Georgia is nothing more than a red herring to detract from the real issues such as cuts to education, transportation woes, economic woes, and a sluggish job market. If politicians were really serious about curtailing illegal immigration they would strengthen the borders, make it a crime to knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and actually enforce current laws. Th truth is the labor is cheap, good old fashion racism gets those righties’ blood boiling, and they have a wedge issue for the 2012 election.
Prosper
June 3rd, 2011
1:34 am
I wonder what if the Native Americans’ lives would have been like today if they had the likes of Gov. Deal and his good ole boy staff. Georgia will suffer economically…and for what?
nick cries ...
June 3rd, 2011
11:52 am
“My wife is an ESOL teacher and we occasionally attend student functions.”
So nick, your wife helps out with translation during your “activities”! What a great couple you must make! I am sure the illegals love having you both hangin’ around!
nick
June 4th, 2011
12:35 pm
So “Nick cries”, you have now clearly established yourself as a pedophile and a xenophobe. Obviously, every interaction between you and children involves inappropriate behavior, as you are unable to conceive of anything else. And in your view of the world, every Latino is illegal.
Your attitude is the reason people who are here “legally” will leave as well. It is frightened, angry people like you who are destroying our state and our country. Take your hate speech somewhere else and leave a reasonable discussion to reasonable people.
Conservative
June 6th, 2011
8:38 am
That retired Air Force lieutennant should be court marshalled for helping illegal aliens. What’s the country coming to when even our armed forces have drunk the liberal kool aid? No help to the enemy. Jesus may have preached about loving enemies, and Deuteronomy says to be kind to the aliens, but God didn’t mean ILLEGAL aliens who are taking over!!!