Your morning jolt: Herman Cain takes on Karl Rove and Charles Krauthammer

In a note to supporters, presidential candidate Herman Cain last night took on – in polite fashion – doubters within the nose-bleed section of the Republican party. Wrote Cain:

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain of Georgia. Fox News/AP

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain of Georgia. Fox News/AP

No one is more emblematic of the Republican establishment than Karl Rove. He has an unmatched political record from his tenure with former president George W. Bush. I greatly respect and admire what he has accomplished in his career.

But I would suggest that he take a few minutes to review my record as a leader in business and as a problem-solver before he dismisses me as the radio talk show guy from Atlanta with not much to offer as a presidential candidate.”

But wait, there’s more:

One of my favorite political commentators, Charles Krauthammer of Fox News, described my candidacy as entertainment. I enjoy his perspectives because he is usually very thoughtful and often correct in his analysis. Unfortunately, this time he got it wrong. Some people would describe being able to give an informative and inspiring speech as an asset, especially if one is running for president.

And a coda:

And no, my campaign is not broke, as someone on Chris Wallace’s Fox News staff incorrectly concluded from a dormant PAC account.

My presidential campaign account is called Friends of Herman Cain, just in case Mr. Rove, Mr. Krauthammer and Mr. Wallace would like to make a contribution. I’m not mad! We just have temporary differences of opinions.

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Also this morning, the Washington Post has its who-is-Herman-Cain piece, which begins with a glass of white wine near Cain headquarters in Stockbridge:

Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain sipped from a glass of chardonnay at an Italian restaurant near his campaign headquarters here and explained why he found Mitt Romney’s pizza delivery ploy so troubling.

“It’s trivial,” Cain, 65, said of Romney sending his leftover pizza to Obama headquarters last week, an apparent dig that has left the political world scratching its head. “It means nothing.”

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State Rep. David Lucas, D-Macon, one of the longest-serving members of the Legislature, remains in the hospital after a Sunday evening heart attack and surgery to remove two blockages. From the Macon Telegraph:

[His wife, Macon City Councilwoman Elaine Lucas] said her husband was rushed from the Soul Jam Festival at Henderson Stadium to The Medical Center of Central Georgia with heat-related symptoms about 6:30 p.m. Sunday. Once there, doctors noticed heart attack symptoms as well and located the blockages, she said.

David Lucas was expected to be moved out of intensive care Monday afternoon and then discharged within two or three days, Elaine Lucas said.

David Lucas announced this month that he intends to run for the District 26 state Senate seat being vacated by Robert Brown.

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You can’t say that the candidates in the June 21 special election to replace state Rep. Hank Huckaby aren’t interesting. Last week, Blake Aued of the Athens Banner-Herald wrote of Alan Alexander, a lawyer who got some probation time for punching a UGA student in a search for his daughter’s abuser.

Over the weekend, Blake wrote of Chuck Williams, a banker whose operation went belly up:

“The fact that the bank failed is not a point of pride for me, but it’s not a point of shame or embarrassment, either,” Williams said.

It started out promisingly enough. Williams and a small group of other initial investors saw an opening when one community bank joined the Synovus chain while Oconee County was in the midst of explosive growth. They ponied up $1 million of their own and sold stock to 400 others in 1999, raising a total of $5.3 million.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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36 comments Add your comment

Centrist

May 31st, 2011
9:55 am

Welcome to the beginning of summer, when news subjects get thin.

(Yawn)

Aquagirl

May 31st, 2011
10:04 am

Intellectual lightweight Cain vs. Rove = Bug vs. Windshield.

Light on policy

May 31st, 2011
10:11 am

I really like Herman as someone that I would invite to my family reunion as I’m sure he’s a good storyteller, POTUS not so much.

Sadly, the look he had on his face on the “Right to Return” question was the fall of his campaign before it even started. From the debacle that is Sarah Palin, he should know that a Presidential run isn’t a learn-as-you-go affair.

mikeinmcdonough

May 31st, 2011
10:26 am

Herman Cain is a fine man. His ideas and campaign would be taken more seriously if he had any experience in local, state or national politics. CEOs get to dictate what underlings do; elected executive political leaders have to build and sustain consensus across many political and social divides. The ability to give a good speech or turn an interesting phrase on the radio is not enough. Herman needs experience on state-wide initiatives, national commissions, and in international relations if he to be taken more seriously as an “outsider” candidate.

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RIGHTISWRONG

May 31st, 2011
10:53 am

LOP I agree!
Cain is nowhere near ready and he is too old to get ready.
Running the US is a lot harder than Godfathers Pizza. He needs to
go sit down and keep doing his Uncle Tom routine to make money.
He has no idea what to do when it comes to foreign policy or social issues.
He would be a disaster…..

DW

May 31st, 2011
11:35 am

Karl Rove is right. Charles Krauthammer is an arrogant ass.

WW ll veteran

May 31st, 2011
11:38 am

You are sure right that running the US is a lot harder than Godfathers Pizza. Guess that i the reason noone has been able to run it in either party since Ronald Reagan and as a result we are bankrupt and in a hellava mess! Maybe a pizza man who was successful in business could do a better job. At least he couldn’t do any worse! But that doesn’t mean he has my support..just that he may be a little mbetter than the group of los

yuzeyurbrane

May 31st, 2011
12:01 pm

I am more sympathetic with the angry Dad than the sleezy banker candidates. Typically, the sleezy banker used other peoples’ money ($5 million in investments) to create a piggy bank for developers. And now he wants a say-so in how Ga. spends its money!! Has public office become a new career program for failed Republican businessmen?

Bruce

May 31st, 2011
12:16 pm

Herman Cain isn’t even on most peoples’ radar screens outside of metro Atlanta. All I can figure is (a) he has too much time on his hands and he’s doing this for sport or (b) he wants to add “Presidential candidate” to his resume in anticipation of a run for the Senate next year.

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brandon

May 31st, 2011
12:34 pm

Herman Cain is right!!!!!!

The big time power bosses of the GOP don’t want an outsider. It happens every time. They are all looking to Romney. It looks like the are always rotating the candidates around giving the next guy in line a shot.

Cain has risen to 4th in the polls and has the highest intensity numbers which shows he can make some noise.

Now………if Palin, Bachman, and Romney get in the race then all heck will break lose. Especially if we get Palin nominated.

Cure Obama and elected Cain!!!!!!

phil c

May 31st, 2011
1:27 pm

Light on policy

May 31st, 2011
1:33 pm

Ah Brandon…Do you seriously think the 3 you mentioned (Palin, Bachman,Romney)have a solid chance of beating Obama? When examining the election results of 2008 and even 2010, what state does either of these three pick up in the general election, do tell.

The GOP doesn’t want an outsider for a couple of reasons. First, they know the likely candidate has to appeal to independent voters that now make up a full 37% of the electorate. With Republican candidates moving to the right considerably on issues i.e. medicare and energy it makes it tougher on the party in the general election.

Quite frankly, the Republican party is becoming a regional party. That noise that you hear is Cain only making noise within a fraction of a minority of the Republican party (Tea Party) that has to loud of a voice already.

I like Cain but the best shot the Repubs have is to get a candidate that is slightly right of center.

RetiredSoldier

May 31st, 2011
3:07 pm

LOP-

I’ll tell you what states the GOP will win in 2012 that it lost in 2008.

For sure pick ups: Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, and Indiana

Better than 50/50 chance: New Hampshire, Wisconsin

50/50: Mich., Minn., New Mexico, and Nevada

Possible but less than 50/50: Iowa, one or two congressional districts in Maine and Colo.

That isn’t regional is it?

RetiredSoldier

May 31st, 2011
3:08 pm

LOP-

Now I’ll add the states that Obama will win in 2012 that he lost in 2008: None

Rick H.

May 31st, 2011
3:13 pm

Who on Earth will vote for obama this time that didn’t last time? What in his record would drive anyone to do that? When you consider he only got 53% of the vote last time I am not getting the concept of his “invincibility”.

Even if he does lose, there will be 45% who do vote for him. That 45% will be a millstone around the country regardless of who wins.

DannyX

May 31st, 2011
3:48 pm

Better than 50/50 in Wisconsin? Lets just start there considering there is a fresh poll out that shows Obama way ahead there. 50%-43% vs Ryan, 51-39 vs Romney, 53-35 vs Gingrich, 55-36 vs Palin.

New CNN poll Approve: 54% vs Disapprove: 45%
Fox 55% approval vs 41 disapprove

On top of that the new golden boy Republican governors are FLOPS…

Florida’s Rick Scott is at 29% approval, yes 29% approval (Quinnipiac.)
Ohio’s John Kasich is at 33% approval
Michigan’s Rick Snyder 33% approval rating,
Wisconsin, Scott Walker, 43% approval
Iowa Terry Branstad 41% approval
New Jersey Chris Christie, 49% approval

What do you got Retired Soldier? Besides hot air?

Bob

May 31st, 2011
3:59 pm

I find many serial bloggers to be quite amusing – Aquagirl seems to take herself seriously when she offers her opinion that Herman Cain is an “intellectual lightweight” – really? – BS in mathematics and MS in computer science – mathematician in ballistics for the US Navy – RIGHTISWRONG calls Cain an “Uncle Tom” – Lightonpolicy suggests that Cain is a “learn-as-you-go” candidate – all of you are clearly ignorant of the facts, self absorbed, and have too much time on your hands – in addition to his outstanding record at the Defense Department, as an entrepreneur and as a businessman, Herman Cain served as Chairman of the Board of Directors in the Federal Reserve Banking System – Cain may not become our next president – but it will not be because he lacks intellect, education, and relevant real-world experience – and by the way…the current resident in the White House recently spoke about our US Marines and referred to the organization using the word “Corps” – but he pronounced the word “corpse”; as in “dead body”. I would encourage Aquagirl, RIGHTISWRONG, and Light on policy to chill out with the gratuitous insults – presidential elctions are serious business – not fodder for bored pseudo-intellectuals.

Light on policy

May 31st, 2011
4:14 pm

Ahh Bob your argument is based on circular reasoning. Nevermind that I also have a B.S. degree in mathematics, what facts did I get wrong?

Cain, himself has said that he would need to be President, with the benefit of intelligence before deciding on a course of action regarding foreign policy.

Mathematically speaking, having absolute knowledge is a given when in office, but shouldn’t he have a position prior to formulating his ultimate decision. One doesn’t need to go to a Mosque or Buddhist temple to determine if he/she wants to be a Christian

donnafrflorida

May 31st, 2011
4:18 pm

As a white conservative gr mother…. I have already sent money ti cain. Cain palin bachman west. Any combination will do.

Last Man Standing

May 31st, 2011
4:21 pm

Bob:

Good post. The general feeling among the majority liberals blogging here is that Herman Cain isn’t “black enough”. They don’t say it, but choose to criticize him in other ways.

Bob

May 31st, 2011
4:52 pm

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh…Light on policy…let’s see…what facts did you get wrong? Let’s start with this – You don’t have the stones nor the standing to even think about invitng Herman Cain to your family reunion – Herman Cain is not an itenerant “story teller” who sits by the telephone, waiting for a phone call from a guy like you who posts THREE TIMES on a silly little blog – grow up and show folks like Herman Cain the respect they have earned – the scope of the job facing any POTUS is so massive, that no one is prepared in advance – every president is required to learn on the job – the key to that office is humility – “It’s not the things a president doesn’t know that get him in trouble. It’s the things he doesn’t know….that he doesn’t know…that always prove fatal.” – Good luck and have a great life LOP!

findog

May 31st, 2011
5:04 pm

LMS
he’s blacker than Obama
but that doesn’t make him any less a token than Michael Steele

RetiredSoldier

May 31st, 2011
5:23 pm

Bob-
You got to understand, they can only argue thoughts, not facts. If they do try facts, then they twist them to suit their purposes. You have to ignore them, notice LOH couldn’t responsd to my post. This is truly becoming a waste in time. Good post and I agree with you points.

DannyX

May 31st, 2011
5:35 pm

“You got to understand, they can only argue thoughts, not facts.”

Retired Soldier, got any facts to back up your 3:07?

Anything?

Blake

May 31st, 2011
5:53 pm

So much sound and fury, first about Trump, now about Cain and increasingly about Palin. These are the facts:

1) Herman Cain couldn’t win a primary for Senate. He can’t win the primaries for President, and he sure as hell can’t win a general election. He’s a loser, just like Santorum, except at least Santorum won once.

2) America has never rejected a wartime President for a second term, as long as the economy was growing. The closest they’ve ever come to changing that was 2004, so very close, which shows you just how weak W. was. If the economy is still expanding in November 2012, say hello to four more years of Obama. If we’re back in a recession in November 2012, say hello to Romney or Pawlenty, whichever one gets nominated.

Light On Policy

May 31st, 2011
8:26 pm

@ Bob

Please provide concrete examples of the disrespect that I’ve shown towards Cain? Saying that he would be welcome at my family reunion provides quite the contrary of disrespect. That offer in jest would be akin to more Americans wanting to have a beer with Palin as opposed to Obama. The notion would hardly qualify as her being more qualified to be President, would it.ri

As a fellow Morehouse alumnus, I like Cain but he is in over his head. Your shortsighted comments can’t deflect this reality.

Bob

June 1st, 2011
11:48 am

Light on Policy – this is it for me – whichever candidate becomes POTUS in 2012 will be in over their head – NO ONE (and certainly not the current resident in the White House) possesses “absolute knowledge” of economics, transportation infrastructure, internet security, geo-politics, climate science, energy, educaton, ecology, national defense, etc., etc., etc. – you made specific reference to Cain’s response to a question about “Right of Return” and suggested that his ignornance on the issue made him an unfit candidate – Cain openly ackowledges that he was not well-versed on this issue – he also indicated that he has since consulted with experts and is now well-versed – THAT’S WHAT EFFECTIVE EXECUTIVES DO – they hire people of high intellect, education, life’s experience and character – then they consult with them before making decisions – Cain has loads of real-world executive experience – his record proves that he has hired good people, consulted with them and made good decisions – HE IS MORE THAN QUALIFIED TO RUN – I’m appalled at the way pseudo-intellectuals like you go after any woman (Sarah Palin) or black man (Cain) who dares speak out against liberal orthodoxy – by the way – I’m Libertarian, possess two post-graduate degrees, and I’ve built three $100M companies from the ground up – I’m also an old man – I care about the future of this country and the young folks who will be forced to live in it – I’ve watched and mourned as our political climate has become a cesspool – this discourages good people from gettting involved – please think before you make a sport out of ridiculing good people like Herman Cain and Sarah Palin – PS…I’m voting for Romney

Light on policy

June 1st, 2011
1:23 pm

@ Bob…

So because you are a business man with multiple degrees that somehow equates to you caring more about the country than the next guy. Again, I am not enamored with the previous CEO experience of Cain as a litmus test for POTUS. Wasn’t our last President, Bush Jr. a CEO? How did that turn out for us?

A Corporate executive is by duty in place to increase shareholder value. That experience doesn’t imply they care one iota about education, the environment or even advance the common good of the nation. So whether you’ve started a $100M company like yourself or been a Community Organizer, it’s up to the American people to make the determination of where your moral compass is for making the decisions of our great nation.

Real Athens

June 1st, 2011
8:33 pm

It is beyond me how anyone can refer to Sarah as good people. What is it that’s she’s good at? She was a laughable TV reporter (see youtube). She was a lousy mayor of a one horse town. She was an albatross of a VP candidate. She quit her job as governor. Her reality series tanked. She’s trotted out her family as ‘celebrities’ and then whined about the ‘media persecution’.

She is a failure in all ways except in taking money from the gullible. She is P.T. Barnum’s ultimate Frankenstein.

She’ll make a cursory run for the presidency in order to keep her brand relevant and dollars coming in from Fox and “speaking” engagements – don’tcha know, but she’s happier where she is now: a well-paid shill for idiocy who is blessedly free from having to face the consequences of her actions.

Bob

June 1st, 2011
9:49 pm

I’ve never participated in a blog before – fascinating and somewhat pathetic.

Real Athens, let’s see how many people you gratuitously insulted – 1) everyone who thinks Sarah Palin is a good person, 2) her teammates on a state championship basketball team (remember how the media swoons over Obama’s mediocre hoops skills, 3.) every mayor of a small town, 4.) millions of decent, hard-working, Americans who were truly energized by her nomination as VP, 5) 80% of Alaskans who rated her favorably as Governor prior to her selection by John McCain, 6) everyone who shares her belief in limted government, Judeo-Christian values, free-enterprise, the right to self-defense, and true (small r) republican government under the U.S. Consttution, and 7) all the “gullible” folks out there who hold opinions that are different from yours – my math says you insulted at least 150,000,000 people. Congratulations! I’m sure your Mom is sooo proud!

Real Athens

June 2nd, 2011
12:44 am

Bob,

I have to hand it to you. That’s one hell of a straw man argument/statement. Your use of the word “every” is, to say the least, overwhelming. Self righteous too! I write in the first person narrative, you speak for 150,000,000. Wow. Clout like that will get you elected President.

You ignored the 800 lbs. elephant in the room: Really, what has Sarah Palin done well?

You know my mother? Please tell her I said hello.

Bob

June 2nd, 2011
3:21 pm

Real Athens – I DO know your mother – and she told me you have always been a bit of a smart alec – but she loves you anyway – and so do I – God Bless!

ClaudeinSoCal

June 4th, 2011
1:20 pm

I don’t know why anyone would trust Fox News Channel. I know it has least amount of poison in it. From O’Reilly, Hannity, Huckabee, Palin, Perino, Rove & any former Bush aid gets the most amount of air time. FNC claims it is fair & balanced. But as a viewer they claim to be moving forward. Yes, to the left & very progressive. Because if you Bill O’Reilly he is so in love with Pres. Obama & he would sell out the USA faster than Judas sold out Jesus.
Because Bill O’Reilly, Chris Wallace, Sean Hannity the biggest liar on FNC (he still stands behind GWB on everything he did that has given us big gvmt) Sarah Palin is like Barack Obama so 2008.
All of you should thank Roger Ailes for selling the FNC viewers snake oil with people tin ears & if they had there way they would probably would pay to kill every Jewish person in Amercia by rebuilding ovens & camps in the USA.
Maybe FNC montra should be help Obama in 2012 rebuild the ovens & camps in the USA & sell Israel out so that no Jewish Person is left alive on this planet.
Roger Ailes, good job. Bill O’Reilly & Chris Wallace should buy the first ovens & camps & name it after you.