Roger Ailes, Sarah Palin and the Fox News presidential machine

Using the departure of Glenn Beck as a starting point, Gabriel Sherman of New York magazine has a terrific look at Roger Ailes and Fox News’ (allegedly) faltering plans to groom the next Republican presidential candidate. It includes this:

All the 2012 candidates know that Ailes is a crucial constituency. “You can’t run for the Republican nomination without talking to Roger,” one GOPer told me. “Every single candidate has consulted with Roger.” But he hasn’t found any of them, including the adults in the room—Jon Huntsman, Mitch Daniels, Mitt Romney—compelling. “He finds flaws in every one,” says a person familiar with his thinking.

“He thinks things are going in a bad direction,” another Republican close to Ailes told me. “Roger is worried about the future of the country. He thinks the election of Obama is a disaster. He thinks Palin is an idiot. He thinks she’s stupid. He helped boost her up. People like Sarah Palin haven’t elevated the conservative movement.”

Fox News has told the New York Times that Ailes in fact harbors no such opinion of Palin.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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91 comments Add your comment

RetiredSoldier

May 23rd, 2011
2:35 pm

“another republican close to Ailes” blah blah blah. If you are going to write a hit piece on someone, liberal or conservative, name your sources or don’t write the article. More trash.

Centrist

May 23rd, 2011
2:42 pm

Hit pieces on non liberal media outlets and anyone who is not a liberal is what the liberal media does.

Since it is so routine – it is patently ignored except by liberal partisans who say “hear, hear”.

RIGHTISWRONG

May 23rd, 2011
2:43 pm

Yes he does! Faux Newz, lol…

RIGHTISWRONG

May 23rd, 2011
2:43 pm

She IS STUPID!! DUH…

RetiredSoldier

May 23rd, 2011
2:51 pm

RIGHTISWRONG-

When are you running for governor? Since you are intelligent enough to know stupid, certainly you must be as capable and electable as that stupid Palin. When’s the announcement right?

GaBlue

May 23rd, 2011
2:53 pm

Retired Soldier,

Can one even run for half a term as Governor of Georgia, or must he or she run on the pretense of serving a whole term and then quit halfway through?

Rick Patel

May 23rd, 2011
2:58 pm

In an article published today in The New York Times, FOX executives denied that Roger Ailes ever disparaged Sarah Palin, and essentially trashed the NYMag piece as utter rubbish.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

May 23rd, 2011
3:04 pm

Watch Mr. “Vatican TV” Roger Ailes support Palin, who wants to force victims of rape and incest to bear her rapist’s biological, genetic reward…an abomination before G-d.

RetiredSoldier

May 23rd, 2011
3:06 pm

GaBlue-

I think you understood the point I was trying to make. Don’t deflect, reflect on the merits of the post. Hey, maybe I could be a rapper! J/K.

abby

May 23rd, 2011
3:14 pm

I don’t care what Ailes thinks of Palin. I don’t need someone to tell me what to think. I recognize a grifter when I see one…. Faux news is merely a propaganda machine….

Captain

May 23rd, 2011
3:14 pm

Amazing isn’t it, Fox News is continually disparaged as having a “Pro Republican” bias, yet ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC constantly and continually fall all over themselves supporting Obama and that’s seemingly fine. In the rest of the world the news media questions a government which goes about its business enacting executive orders, taking over health car, private industry, the banking industry, but in the United States 97% of the news media supports such action. PUzzling isn’t it? I believe in Iran, Libya, China it’s called “state controlled” media. Is that what we have with Obama? State controlled media or is it “we’re in the bed with Obama” media? When those whose job it is to question, probe, and seek the truth become the enablers, it makes one wonder. However, when one takes the time to sort thru the fodder, peel the onion, one discovers Media Matters and other organizations to which the so-called mainstream media rely for much of their information are actually controlled by one George Soros. The same George Soros who favors one world government, elimination of all drug laws, replacement of the Dollar as the world’s currency of exchange, and is sworn publically to destroying Fox News. Even Liberals ought to reject the efforts of this Marxist who sold out his own family for favor with the Nazis.

RetiredSoldier

May 23rd, 2011
3:17 pm

Preach on Captain

PF

May 23rd, 2011
3:24 pm

Captain, Soros doesn’t exist. Don’t you know that? At least that is what the MSM wants everyone to believe. Out of sight, out of mind. And did anyone expect anything less from the AJC? After all, Soros suppliments CT’s income. Of course THAT isn’t a conflict of interest. Unless you are a conservative. Then you are considered racist, kill women, and throw grandmothers off a cliff.

Rightiswrong's grandson

May 23rd, 2011
3:27 pm

Please stop using my grandpa’s name, he’s more intelligent than you.

GaBlue

May 23rd, 2011
3:28 pm

abby,

That’s exactly how I feel. I am insulted by a “news” person who gives me five seconds of a story, then 40 seconds of how I should feel about it. How about just reporting as many facts as you can gather about the story, and leave the commentary and the sour faces out of it? I can draw my own conclusions, thank you. More facts and less opining please, and don’t pick the cherries!

Last Man Standing

May 23rd, 2011
3:32 pm

In a statement to The New York Times, the Fox News Channel executive vice president of programming, Bill Shine, said:

“I know for a fact that Roger Ailes admires and respects Sarah Palin and thinks she is smart. He also believes many members of the left-wing media are extremely terrified and threatened by her. Despite a massive effort to destroy Sarah Palin, she is still on her feet and making a difference in the political world. As for the ‘Republican close to Ailes’ for which the incorrect Palin quote is attributed, when Roger figures out who that is, I guarantee you he or she will no longer be ‘close to Ailes.’ ”

PhilB

May 23rd, 2011
3:36 pm

“the wheels started to come off Fox’s presidential-circus caravan??” (from the NY mag article).

C’mon now – that’s an exaggeration. Were still a year and a half away!! Remember who was leading the last presidential race at this point in 2007? Guliani. You see how that worked out.

RetiredSoldier

May 23rd, 2011
3:37 pm

GaBlue-

Would agree that MSNBC is as tilted left as Fox is tilted right?

DannyX

May 23rd, 2011
3:38 pm

“He also believes many members of the left-wing media are extremely terrified and threatened by her.”

LMAO

Last Man Standing

May 23rd, 2011
3:38 pm

GaBlue:

“Can one even run for half a term as Governor of Georgia, or must he or she run on the pretense of serving a whole term and then quit halfway through?”

Is that akin to running for a partial term as U.S. Senator?

DannyX

May 23rd, 2011
3:40 pm

“Moderate sane Republicans are extremely terrified and threatened by her.”

Fixed it for you.

thebob.bob

May 23rd, 2011
3:41 pm

Gasp! The only time in my life I’ve ever agreed with anything said by Roger Ailes. Palin is dumb. He’s wrong about Obama being a disaster. Bush, the fake ‘regular old guy’ that Ailes sold to America, was the disaster. Obama is making great strides cleaning up the mess made by Republicans since they declared war on government.

Fear, Hatred, Distortion, Distraction and Division is all Republicans have to offer America.

Ayn Rand Took Social Security

May 23rd, 2011
3:44 pm

Hey Guys, I voted for Nixon all three times; I voted for Goldwater; I voted for Reagan, AND I voted for Clinton and Obama, simply because the Republicans couldn’t put up anyone better. If you guys have such huge blinders on that you don’t see that ABC, NBC, CBS, and every other MSM other than PBS fawned all over themselves for whoever was in the White House, you’re gong to lose the next election. The middle of the road voter, which I concede doesn’t exist except as a rarity in the State of Georgia, is not going to vote for the demagogues you guys believe are the second coming of St. Ronnie.

Ailes is right: the country IS going in the wrong direction. The problem is the Republicans don’t have a person in sight that is as smart as Obama AND has any chance of being acceptable to your core. Your core believes Obama is a Muslim and not a native-born American. In short, your core is ignorant of reality and refuses to admit it exists. That’s called insanity. Until you get a grip on reality, we, the middle-of-the-road voters, are going to hold our noses and vote for a Democratic president.

DannyX

May 23rd, 2011
3:45 pm

“s that akin to running for a partial term as U.S. Senator?”

How so? In case one we have a Governor quitting her job to star in a reality tv show.

In the other case we have a US Senator resigning his position to become President of the United States of America.

yuzeyurbrane

May 23rd, 2011
3:46 pm

You need mindless people to have thought control. Obviously, Ailes agrees and has that opinion of the American right.

Ghost of Reagan

May 23rd, 2011
3:47 pm

Retired Soldier…..so, are you saying Sarah Palin isn’t an idiot? The news here, in case you missed it…..The “king maker” thinks the field of potential Republican candidates has nothing of import. That’s important simply because he thought Reagan was great….the first in a very long line of less than sharp tools in the republican shed

Ghost of Reagan

May 23rd, 2011
3:49 pm

I just can’t understand why you people flock around dimwits.

Douglas

May 23rd, 2011
3:53 pm

We need to go back to the days of 2 hours of local news (at six and eleven) and one half-hour of national and world news. 90% of what is being passed off as news today ain’t even close, especially when the media reports on itself. Hey… perhaps this IS armageddon, after all!

Douglas

May 23rd, 2011
3:54 pm

Ghost, dimwits are all that are being offered right now, pretty much. What choice do they have?

Ghost of Reagan

May 23rd, 2011
3:56 pm

“Moderate sane Republicans…”

Isn’t than an oxymoron?

BillS

May 23rd, 2011
3:56 pm

Here’s a headline: Roger Ailes is a disaster for America. Curiously, though, he has pegged Palin correctly. An insular, intellectually unchallenging quasi-politician who quit the biggest job she was elected to is no choice for any high office by any political party.

DannyX

May 23rd, 2011
3:59 pm

From Real Clear Politics (right leaning,) hypothetical, Obama vs Palin,

Obama +19.5%

““He also believes many members of the left-wing media are extremely terrified and threatened by her.””

Terrified she won’t win the Republican nomination.

GaBlue

May 23rd, 2011
4:07 pm

Retired Soldier: “Would agree that MSNBC is as tilted left as Fox is tilted right?”

Of course! Watching Olbermann turn into the other side of the O’Reilly coin over the years was disturbing. In the end, there was almost no discernable difference between the two, aside from which public figure each was fell@ting that night. I have to say that while the leanings of Fox vs. MSNBC are distinct, so are the facts. While Hannity spouts about six pounds of spin for every ounce of facts he presents, Maddow, on the other hand, while she does exhibit bias, does not simply expect us to swallow it because she said so. She offers a weighty basket of facts for each conclusion. Personally, I’d prefer they all stop telling me how I’m supposed to FEEL about what’s going on, and for them to fill that “feel” time telling us about the rest of the news — not just the three top-regurgitated stories every day.

GaBlue

May 23rd, 2011
4:07 pm

DannyX,

The irony of the Palin career change is that she bemoaned the fact that, as a public servant, the mean old media was always criticizing her, making it impossible to do her job. Hence, she quit her job as a public servant to join the media that criticizes public servants for doing their jobs — at a significant pay increase. Dumb as a fox, that one! EFF the people, show her the money!

Ghost of Reagan

May 23rd, 2011
4:07 pm

I guess I just need to sit back and watch the show.

Newt imploding…or should I say being hoisted on his own petard.

Bachmann thinking she has chance…if she could just get past the primaries, she’d show that guy from Africa

Jindal publishing his birth certificate….hoping we all forgot that he looked like a complete idiot “introducing” himself last year

Mitt dancing as fast as he can saying whatever he thinks he has to……to whatever group he’s talking to

Pawlenty trying as best he can…keeping his audience awake

stay tuned…..this will get only better

Frederick Douglass

May 23rd, 2011
4:13 pm

If Roger Ailes was instrumental in giving us Dubya, the FCC should run him out of town on a rail.

Ghost of Reagan tell me . . .

May 23rd, 2011
4:25 pm

are you married??? I’m in love {sigh!}

Last Man Standing

May 23rd, 2011
4:25 pm

Ayn Rand Took Social Security:

“The problem is the Republicans don’t have a person in sight that is as smart as Obama”

I believe it takes more than intelligence. Some of the most intelligent people on earth have been criminals.

Jamie B

May 23rd, 2011
4:32 pm

Nothing about George Soros, Cynthia McKinney, Andrea Mitchell and MSNBC?

slowhand

May 23rd, 2011
4:33 pm

it’s a shame what fox news has done to a once credible gop.

khc

May 23rd, 2011
4:36 pm

palin is a carny, she knows what drives folks fears and prejudices and plays them; while to be applauded for entering politics, i seriously doubt she has the intelligence and fortitude to lead this country.

Reality

May 23rd, 2011
4:37 pm

Let’s see, the Dems had George Soros NY Tmes, LA Times, Chicago Tribune, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc. for the 2010 Election, and that worked out real well, didn’t it?

the original and still the best John Galt

May 23rd, 2011
4:40 pm

I’d say it more like “the Republicrats don’t have anybody who thinks they are the Messiah like Obama.” The man has begun to believe his own hype.

Lee

May 23rd, 2011
4:45 pm

Blows my mind that a supposedly “fair and balanced” news station was actually fearful that nobody would watch their broadcasts just because a Democrat won the white house 2008. They decided the only survival strategy was to make him into an evil “boogey man” and try to tear him down regardless of the issue. I think most Americans would of preferred objective reporting of the news as opposed to a news station hell bent on building a stable of GOP hopefuls to run against him. Fox is no Walter Kronkite.

John Galt

May 23rd, 2011
4:47 pm

@Ayn Rand Took Social Security-

I believe that Obama went to Muslim schools as a child and is a Muslim sympathizer, showing much more deference to Muslim practices and traditions than those of Christians. I always wondered why he wouldn’t just provide his birth certificate and shut everyone up. What about that makes me ignorant?

If I had a video of his birth and witnessed his baptism, that would not make his liberal policies any less odious to me.

PS-
If Ayn Rand participated in the Social Security system into which she was forced by law to contribute, does that make her a moocher? And even if it does, and she betrayed her writings in her poor health and poverty, does that invalidate the prophetic accuracy of her work? I think not-

Reality

May 23rd, 2011
4:48 pm

Lee

Nothing like the ol “fair and balanced” we’ve always witnessed on ABC, CBS, CNN, and the “real” fair and balanced MSNBC. Right?

Ol' Timer

May 23rd, 2011
4:49 pm

The only thing that would make this situation even funnier would be if Lester Maddox and George Wallace were still alive. What a hoot!

John Galt

May 23rd, 2011
4:50 pm

@the original and still the best John Galt-

Unless you have been using this screen name for over 3 years, you remain my imposter.

Lee

May 23rd, 2011
4:54 pm

How can a dude with the name Reality watch fox? Oh wait, it must be Roger Ailes Reality that you enjoy. I watch all stations, so I don’t become a no-mind Fox puppet head.