Saxby Chambliss: Osama bin Laden raid validates interrogation techniques

In a speech praising the U.S. military and intelligence services, U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., on Tuesday said the Pakistan raid that resulted in the death of Osama bin Laden validated the harsher interrogation techniques used after 9/11, on prisoners kept at secret locations:

Said Chambliss, the ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee:

…”It is also important to point out that this operation was made possible by information provided by enemy combatants that have been detained and interrogated by the United States. There has been a lot of debate in this country about our detention and interrogation policy, but this is probably one of the clearest examples of the extraordinary value of the information we have been able to gather from the CIA’s detention and interrogation program. If we did not have access to this information, Osama bin Laden would likely still be operating undetected today.

“It’s because of the information gained from these detainees, pursued and analyzed over the years by the intelligence community that led us to Osama bin Laden’s compound. It’s almost unimaginable that he was located, not in a cave — in Pakistani’s no man’s land — but in a city just miles outside of Islamabad with a large Pakistani military and government presence. “

Chambliss’ contention on Tuesday competed with the thoughts of Diane Feinstein of California, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. From TPM:

“To the best of our knowledge, based on a look, none of it came as a result of harsh interrogation practices,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee in a wide-ranging press conference.

Moreover, Feinstein added, nothing about the sequence of events that culminated in Sunday’s raid vindicates the Bush-era techniques, nor their use of black sites — secret prisons, operated by the CIA.

“Absolutely not, I do not,” Feinstein said. “I happen to know a good deal about how those interrogations were conducted, and in my view nothing justifies the kind of procedures that were used.”

Nor was Chamliss’ opinion universal among Republicans. Also from TPM:

At a Capitol press conference Tuesday afternoon, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) stood apart from his colleagues in the GOP. “This idea we caught bin Laden because of waterboarding I think is a misstatement,” he said.

“This whole concept of how we caught bin Laden is a lot of work over time by different people and putting the puzzle together. I do not believe this is a time to celebrate waterboarding, I believe this is a time to celebrate hard work.”

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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ProgressivePeach

May 3rd, 2011
4:46 pm

Note that CIA and White House both note that information was gathered through “traditional means,” not torture. Saxby’s working to kill any goodwill we’ve gained in the world today through endorsing torture. Great job, draft-dodger!

Last Man Standing

May 3rd, 2011
4:49 pm

“It’s almost unimaginable that he was located, not in a cave — in Pakistani’s no man’s land — but in a city just miles outside of Islamabad with a large Pakistani military and government presence.“

Why do you find that “unimaginable”, Saxby? Did you not think that Pakistan would afford bin Laden some measure of security by, at the least, ignoring his presense? Did you think Pakistani officials would notify the U.S. of his location?

Return to playing with your dimocrat buddies, Saxby.

Last Man Standing

May 3rd, 2011
4:52 pm

ProgressivePeach:

“Saxby’s working to kill any goodwill we’ve gained in the world today through endorsing torture”

Saxby doesn’t have to “kill any goodwill”: Hussein has handled that very nicely all by himself, thank you very much.

Centrist

May 3rd, 2011
4:59 pm

Yup. When someone declares war upon your country, then attacks non military targets in order to create terror and killing innocent civilians – the enemy combatants who are captured should expect such treatment. It is required to stop more of the same.

Why should dozens, hundreds, and even thousands of terrorists have more “rights” than those thousands or hundreds of thousands of civilians they seek to slaughter?

DannyX

May 3rd, 2011
5:11 pm

“It is true that some information that came from normal interrogation approaches at Guantanamo did lead to information that was beneficial in this instance,”

Donald Rumsfeld said during an interview with the conservative magazine Newsmax.

“But it was not harsh treatment and it was not waterboarding.”

Aquagirl

May 3rd, 2011
5:27 pm

Another attendee for the Republican Bitter Ball.

Bobby

May 3rd, 2011
5:28 pm

So Senator Saxby Chambliss has no qualms if foreign soldiers decide to torture U.S. soldiers to obtain information. Glad he was not a Senator when I was serving in the U.S. Marines at the end of the Vietnam War.

Ramguy

May 3rd, 2011
5:41 pm

Saxby doesn’t have to “kill any goodwill”: Hussein has handled that very nicely all by himself

You can call YOUR President, MR PRESIDENT.

Ramguy

May 3rd, 2011
5:42 pm

Another attendee for the Republican Bitter Ball.

Truer words were never spoken.

hl

May 3rd, 2011
5:48 pm

Saxby is saying that Bush sat on this information since 2003. Tell me it isn’t true.

Ga Values

May 3rd, 2011
5:56 pm

Saxby learned about how things work while in Viet Nam.. Oh wait Saxby was a DRAFT DODGER, way to go Saxby

khc

May 3rd, 2011
6:05 pm

if those techniques were so effective, methinks we would have gotten results a lot sooner, what is really baffling is all those folks like saxby who got out of service due to a trick knee that should have been conscripted to serve in jag corp, finance, or administration…..there were tons of folks with those mos’, who performed admin type duties…… oh well, at least saxby has a good golf game….

bj

May 3rd, 2011
6:06 pm

Saxby, where’s the evidence?

American

May 3rd, 2011
6:06 pm

As Progressive Peach noted, “enhanced interrogation”…torture…was NOT the source of information that led to the killing of Bin Laden. Saxby, who lacked the courage to serve in the armed forces, is quick to jump to the defense of Bush and Cheney but in his quickness to give the right some of the credit he has failed the intelligence test…..again.

Michael

May 3rd, 2011
6:16 pm

That feeling the neo-cons are experiencing can be summed up with one word:”flummoxed.” The incoherent ramblings by leaders, followers, sycophants and bloggers is deafening. Stand back — their heads might explode next to you.

Angelo Onorato

May 3rd, 2011
6:17 pm

If anyone believes this Chambliss (Republican) fairy tale, I have a bridge in Borrklyn to sell you. Complete bunk! The fact that the republicans, Cheney included, are using this event to justify the so called “inhanced interrogation methods” (torture) is discusting and a blemish on our nation.

WOW

May 3rd, 2011
6:27 pm

I love all the tolerant left wing retards posting crap on this blog. Keep it up, tards.

Lum

May 3rd, 2011
6:27 pm

You can set up all sorts of case studies where most of us would support torture. What you cannot ever give into is the urge actually to carry it out. Heck, if we’re no better than our enemies, then what is the point of a free society? And Angelo, get off you high horse for a minute. If you seriously think democrats are any different on this issue, you have much to elarn.

WOW

May 3rd, 2011
6:31 pm

“You can call YOUR President, MR PRESIDENT.”

I call him Jimmy Carter part two.

WOW

May 3rd, 2011
6:32 pm

“Great job, draft-dodger!”

Why are you bringing up Bill Clinton?

Norcross

May 3rd, 2011
6:37 pm

According to the lead story on the ajc website (”Bin Laden, unarmed, tried to resist raid”) not only did we kill an unarmed man but the buzz has already started that he’s not really dead.

After the usual news media euphoria and the patriotic hoopla the rest of the story is now unfolding. It appears serious mistakes were made. The Muslims are going to be pissed and you know they’re gonna want to extract their pound of flesh.

Ramguy

May 3rd, 2011
6:38 pm

wow you are precious.

WOW

May 3rd, 2011
6:41 pm

Ramguy has a very low IQ.

Ramguy

May 3rd, 2011
6:47 pm

Mama Says

May 3rd, 2011
6:51 pm

lets see 16 comments so far and at least 13 are anti republican. I see by the tone that the republicans are obviously the problem.

For those of you now using military service as a prerequsite for “knowledge” tell when and where Obama served please.

You are also lacking in discernment.

Initially the Whte House stated Bin Laden was killed during the fire figh-allowing us to infer he fought, then it was as he resisted now we learn he wasn’t even armed and was hiding behind a charging woman—–certainly we can all believe NO information was gathered via torture can’t we ? Surely the Obama administration , the same one which pronounced torture illega,l would admit to using info gathered via torture to shoot an unarmed man–right ? Ah but wait, you ask, hey nut ball republican how can you support torture and imply that Obama would lie ?
I say because your life, my life and any American’s life is more important than any terrorist life, mental well being or general health. Plus best I can tell you libs are supporting an act by the U.S. government that is worse than what you say you hate. Tell me, we did kill a unarmed man in his bedroom without so much as a trial right ?, remember when you guys wanted Bush prosecuted as a criminal for torture ?. Remember your stance on the death penalty ? Oh of course not it is now the democrats that are civil right violating murderers, you’re fined with it now ——How am I wrong ?

bet you nut jobs love that don’t you – you know the fact that your tactics turned out to violate civil rights more than Bush’s–but then again the gentle lady has no problem with the death penalty, provided it is applied without a trial, hummmm !

now I MUST ADMIT I believe it was done correctly but then again I DO NOT SUPPORT the party of the properly educated people, you know the party that demands cudos for the very tactics you want Bush indicted for.

luangtom

May 3rd, 2011
6:52 pm

C’mon, Democrats, can the “draft-dodger” routine. Your own Bill Clinton was in the Soviet Union avoiding the draft during Vietnam. So, please, do not condemn Chambliss for being a draft-dodger. At least, he was not in the Soviet Union….

We may never know the complete story of what transpired during the raid to take down Osama Bin Laden. We still do not have the complete story on JFK’s assassination. We should, however, ask both parties in Washington, DC, at what price do we keep pumping money into a government that allowed Bin Laden to live within its borders for half of a decade? Why can we not divert some of that money into domestic programs that will actually help our citizens in this country? It is time to lay-down the sword of partisanship and get to the mattes at hand…..deficit and economy.

Mama Says

May 3rd, 2011
6:58 pm

Amen luangtom !

Ga Values

May 3rd, 2011
7:12 pm

luangtom

May 3rd, 2011
6:52 pm

Did not vote for either Saxby or Clinton they are both cut from the same cloth. But unlike the Draft Dodger Saxby when I was drafted I served my country & spent 13 months 6 days in the central highlands.

I just watched Saxby on NPR talking about what big patriot he is as far as I am concerned Saxby is a COWARD and should be behind the south end of a north bound mule.

Bruce Kendall

May 3rd, 2011
7:22 pm

It is easy to say that the end justifies the means, when it is about Bin Laden. But where has that mentality gotten us. Consider the TSA when it gropes and fondles in the name of homeland security, someone’s grandmother, mother, wife, daughter, sister, or some small child like a legitimized pedophile?

Latins For Saxby

May 3rd, 2011
7:25 pm

Ga Values

May 3rd, 2011
7:30 pm

Latins For Saxby

May 3rd, 2011
7:25 pm

Saxby sure looks good when he is working with Teddy Kennedy, Barbra Boxer, Lindsey Graham and any Lobbyist that will put money in his pocket or take him golfing.

hl

May 3rd, 2011
7:39 pm

Something that has received little attention, imo, is the trove of information the Seals captured from the compound. The president needs to be congratulated for making the call. It would have been easier to bomb the compound and hope that Osama was there but by sending in the Seals and not only recovering the body but recovering computers and hard drives it might provide a wealth of information.
If someone wants Bush to take credit because of water boarding that happened in 2003, so be it.

Last Man Standing

May 3rd, 2011
7:41 pm

Ramguy:

“You can call YOUR President, MR PRESIDENT.”

I don’t think so. YOU can call him “MR. PRESIDENT” if you like. I’ll call him whatever I choose to call him. That would be freedom of speech. You know, that’s the “right” all the lefties are so quick to claim when they trash Republicans, anti-illegal alien groups, the TEA Party and people who choose to demonstrate at the funerals of soldiers killed in action.

Ben Dover

May 3rd, 2011
7:42 pm

WOW, are you a female? Sounds like your pms is kicking in.

Last Man Standing

May 3rd, 2011
7:50 pm

Bruce Kendall:

” Consider the TSA when it gropes and fondles in the name of homeland security, someone’s grandmother, mother, wife, daughter, sister, or some small child like a legitimized pedophile?”

Profiling should be done by the TSA. No one with half a brain can explain why the people you mentioned are being scrutinized by the TSA while other potentially dangerous people are passed over. This “politically correct” method will eventually result in disaster.

vietnam vet

May 3rd, 2011
7:50 pm

You can’t blame a draft dodger for not knowing that torture violates the rules of the Geneva Convention. Chambliss you had a chance to learn about the rules of war, but you chickened out.

MD

May 3rd, 2011
7:52 pm

mr.presbo is one and done!

Frederick Douglass

May 3rd, 2011
7:54 pm

Whatever y’all choose to call the president, he’ll be the president until 2016.

MD

May 3rd, 2011
7:55 pm

ubl is dead and it is all George W. Bush’s fault.

MD

May 3rd, 2011
7:56 pm

Fred I will bet the farm on that prediction.

Last Man Standing

May 3rd, 2011
7:57 pm

vietnam vet:

I thought that both warring parties had to be signers to the Geneva Convention for it to be applicable? Is that not true? If it is true, when did the jihadists sign on?

Last Man Standing

May 3rd, 2011
7:59 pm

Freddy:

Husseins gone in 2012. Bet your farm and the bench on it.

Deirdre

May 3rd, 2011
7:59 pm

This is Osama Bin Laden we’re talking about. Why should he have ANY civil rights? Did you watch the towers fall? And more importantly, did you watch American civilians leap from the 95th floor because crashing to the ground was better than burning to death?

Why are we talking about civil rights for a man who slaughtered 1000’s of Americans and maybe even more Muslims. He’s lucky to have ended his life so easily!

Travis McGee

May 3rd, 2011
8:12 pm

Most of these chicken hawks are more than willing to shed YOUR blood for their country.

curious

May 3rd, 2011
8:20 pm

“Enhanced interrogation” worked for the Gestapo. Does Saxby endorse their actions?

All you supporters of Klaus Barbie can come out now and take credit for good intelligence work.

Frederick Douglass

May 3rd, 2011
8:22 pm

MD @ 7:56, I hope you don’t rely on that farm for sustenance, because by 2016 you’ll be one hungry son of a gun. BTW, ditch the false bravado, and tell me which of the crazies on the republican side can beat Obama?

Travis McGee

May 3rd, 2011
8:27 pm

@Frederick Doughlass: The Republican/Tea Party primaries and debates will surpass any comedy show on television. It’s going to be a hoot and I hope they all decide to run — from Palin to Trump with Gingrich, Bachmann and Romney thrown in to boot.

Letterman may have to have a “Top Fifty List” instead of a “Top Ten List.”

khc

May 3rd, 2011
8:27 pm

LMS, no one in current slate of repubs can beat obama….granted the ecomomy may weigh heavily on him, but he can thank georgie for that……

janet

May 3rd, 2011
8:32 pm

am not sure when the military became all volunteer but I do know that Chambliss, Cheney each were required to serve under the draft but somehow managed to get not one , not 2 but many deferments. I am of the Vietnam era and I do not recall even one of my college classmates or friends getting a deferment from serving. I call Chambliss and Cheny, patriots “lite”. They talk a great game when they can send someone else’s son or daughter into an illegal war but I doubt that their grandchildren will ever serve. Bring back the draft and I volunteer to be on the draft board. NO one will get a deferment from service.
And then you will see how quickly we exit Iraq and Afghanistan.