Georgia set to eliminate all state funds to fight domestic violence
From Shannon McCaffery with the Associated Press:
Georgia is set to eliminate all state money for domestic violence programs, replacing it with federal funds that some advocates say will limit the services shelters for battered women can provide.
Officials with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services have raised questions about the proposal from Gov. Nathan Deal to use some $4.4 million in federal welfare money — Temporary Assistance for Needy Families or TANF — to fund domestic violence shelters, according to memos and e-mails obtained by The Associated Press through an open records request.
But the state is pressing forward with the plan anyway. It’s included in budget proposals that have passed both the House and the Senate. The chambers are working out differences in the spending plans before sending them to Deal’s desk for his signature.
“For the state not to invest a single dollar into what are clearly lifesaving services sends a strong signal that these services are not important,” said Nicole Lesser, executive director of the Georgia Coalition Against Domestic Violence.
Lesser said that funding the shelters exclusively with TANF dollars could jeopardize their ability to provide services to women without children under federal TANF eligibility rules. Childless women make up between 30 and 40 percent of women seeking domestic violence services in Georgia, Lesser said.
In memos and e-mails from February and March, HHS officials asked the state to explain its use of TANF dollars but said they would not know for sure whether they were permissible until they conducted an audit.
The state has justified the use of the money by saying it helped meet the TANF goals of preventing and reducing out-of-wedlock pregnancies as well as encouraging the formation and maintenance of two-parent families. HHS weighed in after the Deal administration sought assurances that the use of the money is permissible.
HHS officials did not return a phone call seeking comment.
Deal spokesman Brian Robinson said the governor will make sure the shelters receive the funds they need.
“We do feel this is a permissible use of TANF funds,” Robinson said. “But no matter what happens the money will be there for these shelters.”
Shannon Willis, director of Peace Place, Inc., which offers domestic violence services in Winder, Ga., said she worried she might have to turn single women away.
“We’ve been able to use the funds in the past for women with children, but certainly we are not in the business of maintaining two-parent families where domestic violence is involved,” Willis said.
Alan Essig of the non-partisan Georgia Budget and Policy Institute said the rationale the state is using to justify the use of the TANF funds for the shelters “sounds like a stretch.”
And he said the state appears to be crossing its fingers that by the time federal officials rule on the funds, Georgia’s revenue picture will have improved.
“I think they are trying to be very creative,” Essig said. “Because of the of the budget problems they walking very close to the line and perhaps crossing over it… and that could create problems down the road.”
Deal faced questions about his support for domestic violence victims during last year’s gubernatorial campaign.
The Democratic Party of Georgia ran a scathing attack ad last fall accusing Deal of working to weaken Georgia’s rape shield law while in the state Senate. Deal’s Democratic opponent Roy Barnes unearthed a 1981 vote Deal took against a family violence bill that would have given police power to arrest a spouse in their home without a warrant in domestic violence cases.
Deal fired back that he’d supported the 2005 renewal of the Violence Against Women Act and a rape victim whose attacker he prosecuted a young prosecutor stepped forward in the campaign’s waning days stepped forward to defend Deal’s tough-on-crime record.
Deal went on to defeat Barnes by 10 percentage points in the November general election.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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Deb
April 3rd, 2011
11:26 am
The Georgia war on women continues.
Sarah
April 3rd, 2011
11:30 am
This government is a joke. It’s not for the people but for the businesses. We should all be ashamed of how our state treats it’s citizens.
C.M. Thornton, III
April 3rd, 2011
11:36 am
This is long overdue. Its time women learned to stand up for themselves. This is a very good step in helping that happen.
teckedretirred
April 3rd, 2011
11:37 am
Can you say “GENDER BIAS?” The Governor is slashing the budget to pay his cronies more money! Follow the cut…is it really a cut!
rural ga resident
April 3rd, 2011
11:52 am
Wow a 19 month old baby girl was buried this weekend abuse is real people.
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 3rd, 2011
11:58 am
C.M. , Most of us do..most of us do.
I want NOTHING from government above an army and a few roads, and I wish to give them the same..almost NOTHING. I am not my sisters (or brothers) keeper.
Last Man Standing
April 3rd, 2011
12:01 pm
Correct me if I am wrong, but I’ve yet to read or hear of a shelter for battered men. I know there must be some battered men out there who have never benefited from help from the government.
Do battered women have families? Do they call police departments to help them in their time of need? I know for a fact that they do call on law enforcement agencies but then refuse (in a great many cases) to prosecute. If you know a police officer with any time on the job, ask him if he has ever answered one of these calls where the battered woman attacks him/her when the batterer is arrested.
The government can’t be everything to everybody and, frankly, the money isn’t there any longer to address all situations that people want addressed.
Question Man
April 3rd, 2011
12:02 pm
Why do Georgia’s Republican legislators–who profess to favor state control over federal control– want the federal government to pay for the safety of our residents (a most basic service of government)? And why do the Republican legislators—who say the Federal government is spending too much and must spend less–want to spend Federal money in this case?
HL
April 3rd, 2011
12:05 pm
Females need to claim they are pregnant, since fetuses are protected.
HL
April 3rd, 2011
12:08 pm
Last man standing, You’re right that you will see a lot of people stay in abusive relationships. Taking away funding will only increase the amount that stay.
Mama Says
April 3rd, 2011
12:09 pm
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Mama Says
April 3rd, 2011
12:18 pm
Just reveals the truth, womens groups, like most liberals aren’t upset about the money they are upset because they want more of it.
If the shelters are funded why does it take state money when federal money can do it ? I mean if you take me to dinner should I really care if it’s your money you paid with? Sounds like you just want both or ether you will deny the federal money when it comes in !
Plus, lets think about this if a single woman needs a domestic violence shelter, shouldn’t she have taken just a little responsibility for being in the situation ? It is not up to tax oayers to fund a womans living exspenses when her BOYFRIEND is abusive, husband ? I can see the need, but BOYFRIEND ? REALLY ?
and conservativs are greedy ? same sin ladies just different parties
the Captain
April 3rd, 2011
12:21 pm
So the same day I read about the Gov. wanting to set up a database to monitor what drugs my doctor prescribes me, i read this. So lets see, no money to help abused women, but money to make sure some guy doesn’t take extra valium? I guess that whole “keep the Gov. out of your doctor relationship” junk I heard from every conservative last summer only applies to when it could help a poorer person?
Conservatives today have become nothing more that thinly veiled Social Darwinist! Women watch out, soon there will be a law allowing your husband to smack you in public because you know, it’s your own fault for failing to take responsibility for yourself.
Devildog
April 3rd, 2011
12:30 pm
Hmmmmm. They bend over backwards for criminals, providing lawyers for free, TV and fun and games in jail. But nothing for the victims. What’s wrong with this picture?
hnbc
April 3rd, 2011
12:30 pm
If folks want the federal government to stop collecting and spending their tax dollars, why in the sam hill heck do our legislators continue to find ways to get federal dollars? We can’t have it both ways …. getting the federal government out of our lives and wanting the federal government to pay for programs.
Oh, that’s it, isn’t it? The state government really has no interest in supporting women and children from domestic violence (and, the few men who are also victims), do they? Sorry, I’m slow today.
Just another way to keep women from their full and equal rights. Since the Declaration of Independence only covers men, women are just left out, aren’t they?
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
Grannie
April 3rd, 2011
12:39 pm
And they wonder wht we have the highest teen pregnancy rate in the US ?!?!?
Ray
April 3rd, 2011
12:40 pm
Women’s domestic violence against men is grossly under reported, while male victims are still routinely being ignored by the taxpayer funded domestic violence industry. Credible research overwhelmingly shows that the ratio of domestic violence is at least 50/50 between women & men. Go to Fiebert Bibliography. According to one study by researchers who work at the CDC, in 70 percent of domestic violence incidents, where the d.v. is not mutual, it’s women who initiate the d. v. Go to Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting. Click on the link under the red & blue pie chart. D.v. law follows a gender feminist agenda over facts & does great harm to many innocent men & also many violent women. Go to Youtube, “Los Misandry. ”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAmOxvudpF8
Ray
April 3rd, 2011
12:43 pm
Domestic violence will never end as long as the whole truth about it is misrepresented to comply with feminist ideology. V.P. Biden recently called violence against women, “the very worst abuse.” The very worst abuse is valuing one life less than another for having been born the wrong gender. Under domestic violence law, the wrong gender is men. Shelter and services are virtually non-existent for male victims of domestic violence. Options out of a bad relationship, that women have, are often not available to men. Men wind up gender profiled by the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry, because of gender feminist ideology controlling the d.v. industry. Men are often battered by domestic violence, and then battered again by the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry as shown in “Los Misandry” at Youtube.
Ray
April 3rd, 2011
12:48 pm
What about little children? Deaths of little children, killed by their mothers, is egregious. Yet the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry disingenuously tries to make us believe that women are the main victims. According to the U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services and DOJ statistics, more kids are killed by neglect and abuse in a year (1,760 in 2007), than all the female intimate partner homicides in a year. Mothers are the single largest group of kid killers, according to HHS, and they have a rate twice that of fathers. Nowhere near the money is spent to protect kids from kid killing mothers as is spent by the domestic violence industry to protect women. The taxpayer funded d.v. industry is a bastion of misandrist vilification, falsely accusing men of being the overwhelming cause of d.v., and empowering violent women to commit further domestic violence. The corruption of the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry is characterized in “Los Misandry” at Youtube.
dmcsga
April 3rd, 2011
1:10 pm
Yall stop that crying! You voted for it now you deal with it! Can’t wait when they cut the schools and unemployment
A Conservative Voice
April 3rd, 2011
1:13 pm
@TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 3rd, 2011
11:58 am
C.M. , Most of us do..most of us do.
TrishaDWE, when the revolution starts, I want you beside me in the foxhole
Get real
April 3rd, 2011
1:23 pm
Maybe if more women took the law into their own hands and poisoned these “so called men” when they cook their last meal, they will survive the abuse….. I would believe many of the posters on this site do not have any issue in smacking the crap out of their spouse, significant other. We need more help for these women and children…… not less!
the Captain
April 3rd, 2011
1:23 pm
I always wonder why people like TrishaDishaWarEagle and A Conservative Voice don’t just move to their libertarian paradise of Somalia then?????????????
Oh that’s right, because the societies their Libertarian, Social Darwinist values produce, suck!
tar and feathers party
April 3rd, 2011
1:28 pm
Them battered women need to learn to listen and obey their betters!
Sick of Republicans
April 3rd, 2011
1:39 pm
Hey numbskulls – yes there are battered men and there are battered children as well as battered women. The point is without adequate funding to counsel these people on their alternatives, there will be more battering. All you idiots making fun of domestic violence, maybe you need to be battered to get it through your thick skulls that this is not appropriate behavior. You are disgusting human beings and I hope your child or children don’t ever get into a situation where they are battered because with your attitude you would send them back for more battering. Pathetic humans you are.
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 3rd, 2011
1:44 pm
the captain, because the somali people are extremely ghetto..
Also, I hate all muslims..and most of them are muslims
As for social darwinism, yes I do approve. Humans are animals the same as all other animals, we are simply self aware. I owe nothing more to my fellow homo sapiens than a lion owes to other lions or a horse owes other horses.
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 3rd, 2011
1:48 pm
@”The point is without adequate funding to counsel these people on their alternatives, there will be more battering.”
If someone is so stupid that they do not realize the alternative to being beaten is leave (or for that matter that there is contraception out there, without a school nurseneeding to providing it free..another dumb azz liberal argument), then no amount of pendantic government excess will save yu in the end, anyway. If government “counseling” helped end abuse, there would be no abuse today..since the programs exist as of today.
tar and feathers party
April 3rd, 2011
1:52 pm
Who cares, abolish funding for all these programs, the stupids will soon eliminate each other nicely.
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 3rd, 2011
1:52 pm
@ACV
The revolution will NOT be televised, because we take out the MSM first:) Thats the liberals command and control.
atlpaddy
April 3rd, 2011
2:02 pm
If wanna-be revolutionaries, like TrashDish above, want to blow up Fox News, then I say go for it! They should be careful though, because they’ll have to go to that liberal cesspool, New York City, where are all the yankees, homosexuals, and scary muslims live!
LydiasDad
April 3rd, 2011
2:13 pm
No, it’s not for the businesses. It’s for the BLACK businesses. Bet they’ll still find a way to help black women. More racism from the GA legislature.
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 3rd, 2011
2:18 pm
@atlpaddy, haha new yorkers deserve where they live . Been there..it’s like every third world inferior culture in the world threw up on a big pile of pop culture, and the resultant stench is unbelievable.
CNN is just downtown , and MSNBC broadcasts from a used fema trailer in al gore’s backyard, I am pretty sure.
Mama Says
April 3rd, 2011
2:29 pm
Lets get it right people, ok ?
facts ;
there are no shelters for men at state or federal expense
The shelters are not closing becuase they are being funded by Federal tax dollars as oppose to state tax dollars.
Women DO have some responsibility–in particuliar the cases where it’s a BOYFRIEND who is the abuser. If you put your hand in a ant hill you don’t leave it there fearing the movement in leaving will initiate more bites, like I siad before wives are a ifferent story.
Women don’t get pregnant due to the lack of federal dollars for domestic violence, they get pregnant because they have sex.
AND
The doctors, police and FAMILY VIOLENCE advocates have been begging for prescription medication tracking for 6 years——so people cannot abuse drugs and then beat their loved ones !
think people thats all you have to do !
Last Man Standing
April 3rd, 2011
2:32 pm
A Conservative Voice:
TrishaDishaWarEagle:
I want to be there with y’all, but forget the foxhole. We will be attacking rather than defending!
Last Man Standing
April 3rd, 2011
2:36 pm
Sick of Republicans:
“you would send them back for more battering.”
No, idiot, they choose to return. Nobody is sending them anywhere.
demandingjustice
April 3rd, 2011
2:47 pm
There are some women who use these domestic violence services as a ploy to gain advantages on divorces for custody, marital property divisions, and support. They kick the men out of their houses with the help of the courts. It’s a big scam and fraud on the courts. Of course, the judges don’t want to see their names in the papers. So, they grant these orders, expel the men, ruin their records, ruin their jobs, and give the women an extreme advantage in future proceedings.
Dollywood
April 3rd, 2011
2:54 pm
Okay, some of you posters are obviously lacking in education. The lack of knowledge displayed about Somalians, Muslims and Blacks leads me to believe we’ve got a bunch of people looking to blame. And for the record, you are your brother’s keeper, read your bible! You do have one don’t you? Or are you like most people attending church and haven’t a clue of what is expected of you from our Creator? Who do you pray to at night? What voices are you listening too? Perhaps you should swallow the Prozac until sanity kicks in.
Chris Brown
April 3rd, 2011
3:04 pm
That’s what I’m talking about. It was a racist program anyway.
Neil
April 3rd, 2011
3:05 pm
There are some women who use unsubstantiated restraining orders to get the upper hand in divorce and custody, although I bet those are a very small percentage of DV cases. Some women do game the system.
What is a mystery to me are the women who refuse to press charges and use the system to deal with their problem, but they expect the taxpayers to provide them with a place to live and other freebees. If you’re being battered, then deal with it and press charges. Someone in jail isn’t going to be battering you.
RealAmerican
April 3rd, 2011
3:07 pm
Clearly Trisha has been beaten all about the head, thus her comments.
Bobby
April 3rd, 2011
3:34 pm
Is this not the same Governor and Republican legislature that wants the federal deficit reduced? Yet they are willing to use it to try and avoid State of Georgia responsibilities? We have a Governor and legislature with no leaders or morals. But hey, Neil Boortz and his staff will be pleased at the further brow beating of Georgia’s poor so the wealthy can continue their lifestyle of content and joy.
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 3rd, 2011
3:38 pm
Dollywood, my creator told me to take care of myself and not burden others. I do, and expect the same of others. I most definitivly am not my sisters keeper. Literally or figuratively.
P.S.
My creator also said she hated obama.
Btw I may not read the bible much since high school, when I learned that turning the other cheek and loving your enemies led to being a doormat and loser, but I harbor no hatred for christianity as I do with islam because christians are not at war with me and my way of life..and I have a holy trinity too.. Me , Myself, and I
@Last man standing… EVER FORWARD..no retreat, no surrender, no compromise. To hell with leftists, forever and always.
mike
April 3rd, 2011
3:42 pm
I see Georgia continues ahead with its march back into the past. Already cut education. Trying to get new tax cuts under the guise of no state taxes. Has yet to do anything about the water situation at Lake Lanier. I guess now it will be okay to beat up on women. Maybe that CrackerBarrel character should have waited until now. Then he can beat up all the women he wants.
Jeff Cooper
April 3rd, 2011
4:16 pm
EVERY shelter in the state of georgia offers safe haven for men. You cannot put both male and female in main shelter. Your morons, all of you because you misrepresent what is truly needed. Every shelter has funds for men to go to motels for generally longer than a female can stay at a shelter. Sure most men will chose to take care of themselves, but if they do seek shelter, and some do, they are well taken care of. If you haven’t seen or suffered true abuse and if you don’t know the laws or facts, pull your lip over your head and swallow. This is the most hate filled people in the country!
Reality
April 3rd, 2011
4:22 pm
Those that can’t compromise are doomed to conflict. Trisha is just spouting of the hate she is full of, ignore her.
Aquagirl
April 3rd, 2011
4:27 pm
I’m not sure what the Governor is trying to say. If your husband is beating you let him knock you up, so you’ll have somewhere to go? Men, get those beatings in before she has children? You don’t matter if you haven’t squeezed out kids? Boy, there’s some compassionate conservatism for ya.
Last Man Standing
April 3rd, 2011
4:31 pm
Bobby:
“Yet they are willing to use it to try and avoid State of Georgia responsibilities”
Bobby, exactly what do you see as the responsibilities of government, state federal or local? Do you perceive those responsibilities to meet everyone’s needs? Is there any point, Bobby, that idividuals must assume responsibility for themselves?
Last Man Standing
April 3rd, 2011
4:37 pm
Reality:
“Those that can’t compromise are doomed to conflict. Trisha is just spouting of the hate she is full of, ignore her.”
One never compromises principles. You can add me to the group with regard to muslims. I learned all I need to know about the “peace loving” muslims on 9/11. No need to tell me that it is just a small percentage of them or only radical muslims. I ain’t buying it. No muslims living in this country or anywhere else stepped forward to deplore the acts. In fact, I saw quite a bit of celebrating by muslims.
Ike Turner
April 3rd, 2011
4:37 pm
Dont womens need a good beating every now and then?
RaisedbyWolves
April 3rd, 2011
4:38 pm
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double
April 3rd, 2011
4:49 pm
These men haters are usually big fat axx ugly women that need a shoulder to cry on,or feeling sorry for them selves.You know the ones that you see out with different races.I see no reason this should be double financed by the tax payer.
Reality
April 3rd, 2011
5:02 pm
This comment thread shows why Georgia is ranked last or near last in every category. Keep preaching you right wing talking points whilst putting your heads in the sand.
catlady
April 3rd, 2011
5:03 pm
“As you do to the least of these, My bretheren, ye do it unto Me.” Guess Jesus isn’t taken seriously around here.
Kids who see their moms beaten grow up to beat their own spouses and children.
Let’s make good behavior=normal behavior.
tar and feathers party
April 3rd, 2011
5:04 pm
What does a man say to a woman with two black eyes? Nothing, he already told her twice! he he ha ha
catlady
April 3rd, 2011
5:05 pm
“Creative” use of funds means sneaky, underhanded, and questionable legally, BTW.
Let’s use funds devoted to other things to…give tax breakes to our buddies! Yeah, that’s the ticket!
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 3rd, 2011
5:07 pm
@Ike Turner..
Uh..If you were not already dead, I would say lets check your bank balance vs Tina’s
Tina wins!
HENRY
April 3rd, 2011
5:32 pm
Yep Ike, you hit the nail on the head……or should I say the wife on the head…….a good ass beating every now and again will straighten most of these women out……..after all, it’s for better or worse.
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 3rd, 2011
5:36 pm
@reality
Compromise is the filthiest word in the english language. Compromise leaves neither side fullfilled and both sides seething with hatred for the other, ploting their revenge. thats How I have always felt whenever I was forced to compromise when I was little. I usually took it out on the person at a later time. This is the case in most historical cases, as well. Research the basic history of cause of most conflicts, you will find 3rd party forced compromise at the root. ENJOY the lesson!
Prof. Trish
Nick
April 3rd, 2011
5:50 pm
Reading the comments here just make me sad. Family violence is a serious issue. I agree that a lot of charges are pressed and then dropped by victims, but police and prosecutors have been empowered to press the charges without the victims consent in Georgia. Comments like I don’t understand why they keep going back oversimplify a complex issue. There is a reason that most women go back to abusive relationships upwards of seven times. Many of them are dealing with other emotional and psychological issues that leave them vulnerable to being preyed on by abusive partners. This is the purpose of the counseling services in family violence shelters. Many of these shelters also provide support groups, where people who have actually been through things like this can encourage and empower victims to overcome the situations that they find themselves in. Arguments about how to fund or de-fund can and should be had by elected officials. But to make light of the situation is just plain immature and ignorant!
wild one 13
April 3rd, 2011
5:59 pm
When my wife and I moved to GA we moved next door to the sweetest couple. Then about a week later we heard them fighting. I can still hear his cries for her to stop. I saw him the next day and you would have thought Mike Tyson went to work on him.
Every weekend thereafter she give him a beatdown. I hated to see them move away cause that was some cheap entertainment.
Last Man Standing
April 3rd, 2011
6:43 pm
catlady:
“Let’s make good behavior=normal behavior.”
I believe that good nehavior is normal behavior and that bad behavior is not common. The bad behavior certainly gets more attention simply because it is abnormal.
LYN TURNER
April 3rd, 2011
6:56 pm
Antifreeze anyone?
Lynda Funderburke
April 3rd, 2011
7:17 pm
The Women in Georgia need to RUN as far from the State as they can. Gov ( I use that term loosely believe me ) Deal is not FOR the Women of Ga in any way. A lot of people including Roy Barns tried to warn the voters but they didn’t listen. I’m leaving this State and taking as many Women with me as I can…With Gov. Roy Barns at least we knew who and what we were getting. First it’s kill the Rape Law. He has his hands in the school mess this State has and now he is trying to cut money to help ABUSED Women! Where and When will it stop. Do I HEAR IMPEACHMENT after ONLY4 months?
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A. Sanders
April 3rd, 2011
7:34 pm
Good grief. This is the most misleading headline I’ve ever seen. Galloway is a liberal and writes headlines with only half truths.
Serious Robuck
April 3rd, 2011
7:35 pm
Reality, you’re absolutely right. Trisha’s an Auburn graduate with a Master’s degree. Last Man is just barking at the moon. There is no hope here. None.
catlady
April 3rd, 2011
7:46 pm
LMS: As a teacher in a (75% free lunch, 15% Hispanic, 85% Appalachian white) very troubled community for almost 4 decades, I can tell you that many, many, many of my students have no idea what appropriate married behavior looks like, in any way, shape or form. Maybe in some neighborhoods good is normal, but not in many others. Abuse, drugs,ignorance, alcohol, unwed births, “daddy of the day,” neglect, “disability,” you name it, these kids see it and live it every day.
Ashley
April 3rd, 2011
7:52 pm
They do have shelters for abused men, they are mainly located in Atlanta.
Serious Robuck
April 3rd, 2011
7:53 pm
Catlady, LMS is very angry. He has isolated himself in East Cobb so he doesn’t have to deal with trash. He refuses to travel inside the Perimeter. He hates all Muslims, even the ones George Bush wanted to free from Saddam. He feels absolutely nothing whatsoever for other human beings if they don’t behave as he thinks they should. He’s a role model for his grandchildren. He’s an exemplary Southern Christian.
SickOfDeception
April 3rd, 2011
7:57 pm
@trisha
You really have NO IDEA of what government services you truly use – really, NO idea.
Defense and roads…. ha… you can only wish life was so simple – enjoy your tea.
You are sucking down FOX opinion-aid way too freely… and turning off your capacity to think.
Could you PLEASE stop giving us AU alums a really bad name????
Not all of us are so naive.
SickOfDeception
April 3rd, 2011
7:59 pm
@trish….
Compromise? Without compromise you have what??? Dictatorship??? Fascism????
Hello! Get a life.
double
April 3rd, 2011
8:01 pm
@Serious When you get LMS age all you can do is bark at the moon.
Serious Robuck
April 3rd, 2011
8:04 pm
Sickofdeception, Trish is a tough critter. She doesn’t need firemen or policemen or paramedics, and she thinks public education is a waste, even though she’s sooooooooo proud she graduated from a state subsidized university…the same one my very liberal spouse graduated from. Can you imagine what sort of mother raised Trish? Can you imagine any man who might ever be interested in her? Just food for thought.
Bill Orvis White
April 3rd, 2011
8:08 pm
Hello-the answer starts with a “c” and ends in an “h.” It’s called church, folks. Houses of Worship are the best places for any battered victims to go in a time of need. The government needs to get out of the business of social engineering. We need to be a nation that looks toward God for healing and salvation instead of looking up to Hussein Obama, Nanny Pelosi, Hairy Reid and Bawney Frank for answers. This is a nation of bed-wetters hellbent on government handouts, “collective bargaining,” and Unplanned Parenthood. BRAVO to governors who stand up to political correctness which promotes social decay, unfunded mandates and runaway deficits — all of which are against God’s word.
Amen,
Bill
Serious Robuck
April 3rd, 2011
8:14 pm
And Bill Orvis White shows up. Yet ANOTHER exemplary SOUTHERN Christian…like his hero, the God fearing, recently devout Newt Gingrich. You make me sick, Buddy. Go look in the mirror. You’ll see what’s wrong with America.
Last Man Standing
April 3rd, 2011
8:22 pm
Serious Robuck:
Nice to see that you think well of me. I’ve told you before that I do NOT live in Snobb County. The rest of your description of me is just so much wind blowing through the leaves, and I’ve heard it before.
Last Man Standing
April 3rd, 2011
8:27 pm
Serious Robuck:
“Can you imagine any man who might ever be interested in her?”
I know this will be hard for you to believe, Serious, but not every man wants a shy, retiring, weak-willed dependent woman. I understand how you would because that is which inflates your already too large ego. Maybe it’s your wife who needs the shelter?
anynon
April 3rd, 2011
8:48 pm
Hate to say it but if a license was required to breed this wouldn’t be a problem. You know, reliable parents ability to raise a child.
Single women don’t have this problem either. Who ever said you had to procreate with an abusive person anyways?
Traci
April 3rd, 2011
8:55 pm
Just blow his f’in head off —skip the counseling! Thanks GOP — we dont need the State funding!
If you are being abused —make a big pot of GRITS and wait til he steps out of the shower! It will stop — ask Al Green
Traci
April 3rd, 2011
8:57 pm
Domestic Violence is serious — of course – MEN would vote to cut the funding! They got an name for men like this!
Serious Robuck
April 3rd, 2011
9:07 pm
Last Man, I think you’re one hateful guy and severely damaged goods. If the crap you spout here is genuined, you have no idea what true Christianity is. I wish you could meet my Auburn-educated wife and her large family of wonderful, caring folks. Their kindness and generosity would make you very uncomfortable, Sweetie.
Now go watch O’Reilly or listen to Rush or whatever you do to get your old jollies. Jeeze, you are hateful and ignorant. You just make me sick.
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 3rd, 2011
9:23 pm
Well then your wife and her large family of wonderful, caring folks can pick up the tab. It’s like the old saying..’you don’t have to go without, you just won’t be getting anything from me.’
Concerned Voter
April 3rd, 2011
9:54 pm
Yes, cut the funds for domestic violence victims, but keep those fishing rodeos funded! Yes, Georgia, keep your priorities straight!
td
April 3rd, 2011
11:00 pm
Serious Robuck
April 3rd, 2011
8:04 pm
“Can you imagine what sort of mother raised Trish?”
A good caring woman that showed her not to depend on anything but herself. Any mother that raises their daughter any other way is just committing child abuse.
“Can you imagine any man who might ever be interested in her?”
A real man. One that is full of self confidence and wants a true strong woman. If I was 20 years younger and not married Trisha would be the best catch of the century.
Ret
April 3rd, 2011
11:01 pm
The right-wing war on women and individual liberty continues.
td
April 3rd, 2011
11:18 pm
Who wins custody in the family court system 80% of the time in Georgia? Who commits 90% of all reported child abuse in the state of Georgia? Who commits 40 to 50% of all domestic abuse and receives 100% of all funds to be a victim? If you said men then you would be sadly mistaken.
You libs are on hear continuing to spout the NOW lie. “Men are evil and government is the only thing that is stopping men from forcing women into servitude”
You white plantation owners really work hard at keeping these poor stupid women believing in government and keeping the African Americans believing. Where will you all be if they finally wake up one day and see how much you have kept them in bondage.
td
April 3rd, 2011
11:20 pm
LMS,
I see Serious and several others on hear are sticking to the Dem playbook, “if you can not win with the argument then just call names”. I guess we know who is winning this battle.
GaBlue
April 3rd, 2011
11:41 pm
Ladies, If your man has trouble with the listening part of a two-way conversation, his urge to smack you around supercedes his empathy response, and your feelings have become less important as your time together passes, please contact me for my most excellent Salmonella Chicken Salad recipe. He’ll make time to listen without hitting. Communication is the key to mutual understanding and harmony. God bless!
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 4th, 2011
12:06 am
Thanks td
That was a nice compliment.
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 4th, 2011
12:07 am
Midnight on sunday night / mon morning and I am working..thats what I admire about my BF and one of the things I think he admires about ME. Overachievers tend to attract one another.
Take The Money And Run « Falling Down the Stairway of Life
April 4th, 2011
4:14 am
[...] yeah…: “Georgia Set to Eliminate All State Funds to Fight Domestic Violence.” On one hand, the state of Georgia past broke about six miles back and if you can get the [...]
Bill Orvis White
April 4th, 2011
7:18 am
@Serious Robuck
Speaker Gingrich is about free market solutions to some of the nation’s most pressing problems. He would make a fine vice president serving Mr. Cain or even as president. I know in my heart that Speaker Gingrich would promote the churches, synagogues and oil-producing mosques to invite battered peoples into their houses of worship. This once-free nation would save billions.
For more cut$, this once-free nation needs to look at cutting the scams of Social Insecurity, Mediraid, Mediscare, Unplanned Parenthood, food stamps, the (f)Arts and many, many more useless social programs.
Amen,
Bill
Last Man Standing
April 4th, 2011
8:03 am
td:
“Last Man, I think you’re one hateful guy and severely damaged goods.”
You mean like the above? It just goes with the territory. Considering the source, it’s not much to worry about. To be acceptable to many people, you must be politically correct, supress true feelings and beliefs and flow with the masses.
They see complexity in issues where there is none. They want everyone to be tolerant if the intolerent. In short, they want cookie-cutter people who are just like themselves. Anything less and you are hateful and “damaged goods”.
Sorry, I’m not signing up for their ride.
Last Man Standing
April 4th, 2011
8:04 am
td:
Sorry, should read “tolerant of the intolerant”
FactChecker
April 4th, 2011
8:23 am
THE FACTS
1. Domestic Violence shelters counsel both men and women. Men, being physically stronger, are usually the abusers but not always.
2. Domestic Violence shelters care and counsel children in an attempt to provide a safe haven and break the cycle of violence. Children cannot defend themselves yet some advocate protecting the “unborn” children. Why not the born children?
3. Domestic Violence shelters will only house people that press charges. If you don’t press charges, you cannot stay.
4. Domestic violence shelters teach skills which allow people to get a job and be independent of an abusive spouse. There is an end game unlike continued abuse where we, the taxpayer, continue to pay for police and hospitals for the abused.
5. Domestic Violence is present across all races, ethnicities and socio-economic strata. Your sister, brother,niece or nephew could be a victim without you knowing.
Blaming the victim is an easy way to promote acceptance of domestic violence and pomote its use as a means of control. Victims live in fear of thier lives and the lives of thier children. We advocate punishment of murder, why do we seek to deny one means of preventing it? Those that feel as though they are paying for it through thier tax dollars should look under thier couch cushions. You will probably find more money there than you contribute today. However, if you look at the portion of your tax dollars you contribute to tax breaks to attract new business to Georgia or that benefits those that make more than $250k, you will find that you have to look in your wallet. SO…who do you want to get your money…men, women and children….or a company that pays no tax while you do? Guess it depends on whether your God teaches caring for one another and those less fortunate or that your God teaches that might (and money) makes right.
Julia
April 4th, 2011
8:45 am
Well, since Governor Deal and his pals, supporters, are so fond of ‘SECOND AMENDMENT’ solutions, maybe battered women should resort to that.
Since apparently they’re being given scant little else in the way of help. We’ve got to feather the nests of Deal & his cronies, we can’t offer a safe haven for battered women,. priorities, folks, priorities. Always the Corporations.
oh, those who don’t like this….. BITE ME.
Robert
April 4th, 2011
8:46 am
Watch what would happen if a law were to pass to start charging landing fees at state funded general aviation airports? The crying would never end.
Corey
April 4th, 2011
9:16 am
TrishaDishaWarEagle, the next time you fly Delta or any other airline perhaps you can bring along you very own private air traffic controller? When you cross the next bridge you can have your very own bridge and road inspector riding shot gun. You can hire your very own food inspector before making a trip to Kroger. Do you also have your very own private restaurant inspector? When your neighborhood is struck by a natural disaster perhaps you can hire someone to coordinate, rescue efforts and get the essentials such as food, water and medicine to the people who need them? Perhaps you can hire someone to monitor the oceans and atmosphere to let you know a hurricane is headed your way? What about hiring someone to monitor objects in near earth orbit so that you will be warned when a comet or asteroid is headed your way? Perhaps you can hire your very own private police, jailers, fire fighters, judges and clerks of court? Trisha, are your really that naive or have you made one too many trips to the anti-government trough? I bet you wouldn’t mind at all having the government sitting in your OB/GYN’s office on your next visit though.
bigdawg88
April 4th, 2011
9:19 am
If so many churches are accepting so many victims, then why does the state need to have shelters at all? Obviously there is a gap there?
I wonder if Trisha really knows how much her government actually spends to protect her. You eat any rotten food lately, or choke to death on air pollution, or get involved in any mid-air collisions, or get beheaded by cocaine cartels? Yeah, you can thank the federal government for that. Not all fed money is wasted. And some of us don’t mind some of our tax money being spent to help others, who are trying to get help! That’s what the shelters are for.
History Will Teach Us if We Will Learn
April 4th, 2011
9:33 am
TDWE & LMS:
Apparently, you didnt know how to read before or after you left Auburn. Here’s what the Preamble of the Constitution says:
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
Its a little more than road and Army building, especially the establising Justice and promoting the general Welfare parts.
vuduchld
April 4th, 2011
9:51 am
By the comments posted here I can take comfort in the fact that pot bellied Jawja cave men will continue to pound and batter their chickenhead cave women. Well know that the money “saved” will do to pay off Deal’s bankrupt lifestyle. You toothless hillbillies are so predictacle.
POUND AWAY REDNECKS!
Last Man Standing
April 4th, 2011
10:11 am
History Will Teach Us if We Will Learn:
I don’t think that you and I are in agreement as to “establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare”. While I will admit that this has been interpreted in different ways, I don’t perceive it as the government becoming everyone’s keeper.
I do know that, with the mind-set of many now, that the westward expansion could never take place today. Many would call upon government to build roads, bridges and rest stops to accommodate the pioneers. They would demand adequate health care facilities be established for their well-being. They would want the Indians to be represented by attorneys and compensated for any loss. An environmental impact statement would be necessary for the ecologists. The ASPCA would determine whether the horses or oxen would pull the wagons or ride in them.
You’ve come a long way, baby, and it’s all been backward!
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 4th, 2011
11:44 am
yawn..more liberals who just can;t stand that I value my own money more than their life.
It is every womans duty not to be violated and abused. That means sometimes you leave the guy, sometimes you take a Demarini titanium softball bat to his skull. What it does NOT entail, is taking money from me, to do it.
LMS, bought a great tshirt over the weekend.. says:
GUN CONTROL.. The theory that the woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled by her own pantyhose is morally superior to the woman who explains to the police how her attacker got the fatal gunshot wound.
the Captain
April 4th, 2011
2:13 pm
Well now we a t least know how dumb, or just plain immoral TrishaDishaWarEagle and those libertarians are. First off this person needs to go educate themselves on how wealth is created. Learn the basics! Most people who spout off how they don’t want to give up anything they “earn” to help someone else (besides being a bad person) didn’t actually “earn” all they claim. They usually just take wealth other people make and claim it as their own. But Since TrishaDishaWarEagle has declared themselves a Social Darwinist, they probably have no problem with this.
Oh and he most ignorant thing people like TrishaDishaWarEagle show is when they embrace the moral black hole of Social Darwinism is that the concept of Social Darwinism, is not Darwinistic. Stupid people think that it is, but for anyone educated on both subjects can tell you Darwinism relies on natural selection, which selects individuals for any traits that help them to survive. Social Darwinism is an artificial selection, that selects for only a few traits (such as the collection of wealth). This is why libertarians still want police to enforce certain rules (or criteria for selection) that they know they can pass. If real Darwinism was going to happen, then the Social Darwinist would allow for dumber poorer people to use their traits (physical strength lets say) to rob them and survive.
But Social Darwinist like TrishaDishaWarEagle are in fact cowards who need the state protect them from actual Darwinism while claiming they are the biologically superior ones, when in fact they are neither biologically superior, or even a decent human being. But that’s libertarians for you.
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 4th, 2011
2:22 pm
I do not need the police to protect me. Police only show up after a crime has been committed. I have a gun , and practice often to be proficient with it, and would gladly use it to protect my body and my things, against the likes of you, and yours, dear captain. Thats why social darwinism works. I am smaller and far outweighed by most males, but my best friend , Herr Glock, is the equalizer on that.
Orange&Blue
April 4th, 2011
2:40 pm
Enter your comments here
Last Man Standing
April 4th, 2011
3:08 pm
the Captain:
What a pompous, ignorant arse you are! You know as much about Libertarians as my dog knows about space travel. You sit upon your “high horse” and criticize others you do not even know.
Go peddle your BS to some of your leftist, property stealing friends.
Last Man Standing
April 4th, 2011
3:11 pm
TrishaDishaWarEagle:
“God made them big and God made them small. Sam Colt came along and equalized them all!”
Congratulations on your choice. The Glock is a superior weapon!
Red
April 5th, 2011
3:29 am
Moving from out of state and having to go into hiding after living in hiding at a shelter was the only thing that saved me and my babies llives (for now.) My youngest was just a few weeks old when we ran and went into hiding. We were rich and left with the clothes on our backs never looking back. We have given back to that shelter over time. We are still in danger. That shelter saved our lives. To take away that safe haven will only put the abued women and children at risk. God save you and protect the women and children who need shelters. Otherwise you will have no shelter teams…..but homicide teams, So many of us are abused to the point that we run or die. If you close them down we have nowhere to go. Dangerous people keep you from your family and friends.It is a cycle. A shelter is the only place you can go and feel safe.
Red
April 5th, 2011
4:03 am
Shame to those who think killing is the answer. I am a strong mommy and would never kill. That is what happened.They saved our lives and we gave back what we could. Unless you ever had to go into hiding while be hunted by a killer you would never understand. Please do not speak about what you do not know first hand. I was married to a millionaire. He (second time) threatened my life physically. I was pregnant the first time. Rich or poor….Were it not for that shelter I woulfd not be here to tetify their good deeds. There are strict regulations and a time limit as well as requirements. Ignorance leads to the spouting of unthruth. You have no idea what it is like to be hunted like an animal to be killed. Raped while married or tracked down and in hiding. Money did not matter. Shame on you and yet I wish God bless you. Hope you never have to go through that man or woman. Still fighting to stay alive 4 years later…. closing ANY shelter is wrong. I paid my taxes and dues for years. Let it help them and me. After 183,000 dollars I paid that year, the last thing I ever thought I would be doing is going into hiding. And that was the same year we went into hiding, We also gave back to the shelter, SHELTERS SAVES LIVES!!! AND, PREVENTS future abuse through their education programs.
Lt. Dan
April 5th, 2011
8:02 am
Sure, things are in a bucket of doo doo…money’s tight, not too many folks are all that happy, and the world, it seems, has gone upsidedown. There’s plenty to bitch about; many people and institutions toward which to point accusatory fingers. MAYBE, just MAYBE, we better just get our collective doo doo together and learn what self-sufficiency means.
angel carter
April 5th, 2011
12:06 pm
I am a mother of two and r needing assitance coming out of a domestic relationship also dealing with a domestic father that refuses to pay childsupport or anything else they are many that need assitance that want better but just need a boost in life and most of us have contributed and paid our taxes for many years so why take those funds for unrelated reason I cannot get Tanf the system is so restricted and not helping those that want and need help
TrishaDishaWarEagle
April 5th, 2011
7:04 pm
As you all know, I may be a Libertarian, but I couldn’t get around without my Rascal scooter given to me by Medicare for my diabeetus.
Also I am obviously not a woman since my operation a few years back, but I keep the name out of remembrance to my now sewn up vagina.
All you fart-smelling Tea Partiers still wanna do me though. I think some of my bed sores are oozy enough.
the Captain
April 6th, 2011
1:46 pm
@Last Man Standing, What did I say that was factually incorrect? Accuse me of being “pompous” all you want, it still doesn’t change the facts that modern libertarians like TrishaDishaWarEagle are immoral greedy social darwinist, or that social darwinism is not even Darwinistic.
the Captain
April 6th, 2011
2:00 pm
I also love how libertarians like Last Man Standing who follow a political philosophy that states among many other reprehensible things, that children of poor people should receive no education (forced into child labor then?), and that poor people themselves should have no access to doctors, or guaranties on not dying by starvation. Or the libertarian belief that the powerful should rule over the week and that the majority are on the planet to serve the minority. But then they get all up in a hissy if you call them out on their libertarian immorality.
P.S. I know a lot about libertarianism… and space travel.
nuchekwoman
April 6th, 2011
5:57 pm
For Mama says – funding from different sources ( federal and state) funds different types of services. In addition, those funds are not given directly to the victims of domestic violence or sexual assault, but goes to provide the different services that a shelter would provide.