Georgia set to eliminate all state funds to fight domestic violence

From Shannon McCaffery with the Associated Press:

Georgia is set to eliminate all state money for domestic violence programs, replacing it with federal funds that some advocates say will limit the services shelters for battered women can provide.

Officials with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services have raised questions about the proposal from Gov. Nathan Deal to use some $4.4 million in federal welfare money — Temporary Assistance for Needy Families or TANF — to fund domestic violence shelters, according to memos and e-mails obtained by The Associated Press through an open records request.

But the state is pressing forward with the plan anyway. It’s included in budget proposals that have passed both the House and the Senate. The chambers are working out differences in the spending plans before sending them to Deal’s desk for his signature.

“For the state not to invest a single dollar into what are clearly lifesaving services sends a strong signal that these services are not important,” said Nicole Lesser, executive director of the Georgia Coalition Against Domestic Violence.

Lesser said that funding the shelters exclusively with TANF dollars could jeopardize their ability to provide services to women without children under federal TANF eligibility rules. Childless women make up between 30 and 40 percent of women seeking domestic violence services in Georgia, Lesser said.

In memos and e-mails from February and March, HHS officials asked the state to explain its use of TANF dollars but said they would not know for sure whether they were permissible until they conducted an audit.

The state has justified the use of the money by saying it helped meet the TANF goals of preventing and reducing out-of-wedlock pregnancies as well as encouraging the formation and maintenance of two-parent families. HHS weighed in after the Deal administration sought assurances that the use of the money is permissible.

HHS officials did not return a phone call seeking comment.

Deal spokesman Brian Robinson said the governor will make sure the shelters receive the funds they need.

“We do feel this is a permissible use of TANF funds,” Robinson said. “But no matter what happens the money will be there for these shelters.”

Shannon Willis, director of Peace Place, Inc., which offers domestic violence services in Winder, Ga., said she worried she might have to turn single women away.

“We’ve been able to use the funds in the past for women with children, but certainly we are not in the business of maintaining two-parent families where domestic violence is involved,” Willis said.

Alan Essig of the non-partisan Georgia Budget and Policy Institute said the rationale the state is using to justify the use of the TANF funds for the shelters “sounds like a stretch.”

And he said the state appears to be crossing its fingers that by the time federal officials rule on the funds, Georgia’s revenue picture will have improved.

“I think they are trying to be very creative,” Essig said. “Because of the of the budget problems they walking very close to the line and perhaps crossing over it… and that could create problems down the road.”

Deal faced questions about his support for domestic violence victims during last year’s gubernatorial campaign.

The Democratic Party of Georgia ran a scathing attack ad last fall accusing Deal of working to weaken Georgia’s rape shield law while in the state Senate. Deal’s Democratic opponent Roy Barnes unearthed a 1981 vote Deal took against a family violence bill that would have given police power to arrest a spouse in their home without a warrant in domestic violence cases.

Deal fired back that he’d supported the 2005 renewal of the Violence Against Women Act and a rape victim whose attacker he prosecuted a young prosecutor stepped forward in the campaign’s waning days stepped forward to defend Deal’s tough-on-crime record.

Deal went on to defeat Barnes by 10 percentage points in the November general election.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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117 comments Add your comment

Deb

April 3rd, 2011
11:26 am

The Georgia war on women continues.

Sarah

April 3rd, 2011
11:30 am

This government is a joke. It’s not for the people but for the businesses. We should all be ashamed of how our state treats it’s citizens.

C.M. Thornton, III

April 3rd, 2011
11:36 am

This is long overdue. Its time women learned to stand up for themselves. This is a very good step in helping that happen.

teckedretirred

April 3rd, 2011
11:37 am

Can you say “GENDER BIAS?” The Governor is slashing the budget to pay his cronies more money! Follow the cut…is it really a cut!

rural ga resident

April 3rd, 2011
11:52 am

Wow a 19 month old baby girl was buried this weekend abuse is real people.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

April 3rd, 2011
11:58 am

C.M. , Most of us do..most of us do.

I want NOTHING from government above an army and a few roads, and I wish to give them the same..almost NOTHING. I am not my sisters (or brothers) keeper.

Last Man Standing

April 3rd, 2011
12:01 pm

Correct me if I am wrong, but I’ve yet to read or hear of a shelter for battered men. I know there must be some battered men out there who have never benefited from help from the government.

Do battered women have families? Do they call police departments to help them in their time of need? I know for a fact that they do call on law enforcement agencies but then refuse (in a great many cases) to prosecute. If you know a police officer with any time on the job, ask him if he has ever answered one of these calls where the battered woman attacks him/her when the batterer is arrested.

The government can’t be everything to everybody and, frankly, the money isn’t there any longer to address all situations that people want addressed.

Question Man

April 3rd, 2011
12:02 pm

Why do Georgia’s Republican legislators–who profess to favor state control over federal control– want the federal government to pay for the safety of our residents (a most basic service of government)? And why do the Republican legislators—who say the Federal government is spending too much and must spend less–want to spend Federal money in this case?

HL

April 3rd, 2011
12:05 pm

Females need to claim they are pregnant, since fetuses are protected.

HL

April 3rd, 2011
12:08 pm

Last man standing, You’re right that you will see a lot of people stay in abusive relationships. Taking away funding will only increase the amount that stay.

Mama Says

April 3rd, 2011
12:09 pm

Enter your comments here

Mama Says

April 3rd, 2011
12:18 pm

Just reveals the truth, womens groups, like most liberals aren’t upset about the money they are upset because they want more of it.

If the shelters are funded why does it take state money when federal money can do it ? I mean if you take me to dinner should I really care if it’s your money you paid with? Sounds like you just want both or ether you will deny the federal money when it comes in !

Plus, lets think about this if a single woman needs a domestic violence shelter, shouldn’t she have taken just a little responsibility for being in the situation ? It is not up to tax oayers to fund a womans living exspenses when her BOYFRIEND is abusive, husband ? I can see the need, but BOYFRIEND ? REALLY ?

and conservativs are greedy ? same sin ladies just different parties

the Captain

April 3rd, 2011
12:21 pm

So the same day I read about the Gov. wanting to set up a database to monitor what drugs my doctor prescribes me, i read this. So lets see, no money to help abused women, but money to make sure some guy doesn’t take extra valium? I guess that whole “keep the Gov. out of your doctor relationship” junk I heard from every conservative last summer only applies to when it could help a poorer person?

Conservatives today have become nothing more that thinly veiled Social Darwinist! Women watch out, soon there will be a law allowing your husband to smack you in public because you know, it’s your own fault for failing to take responsibility for yourself.

Devildog

April 3rd, 2011
12:30 pm

Hmmmmm. They bend over backwards for criminals, providing lawyers for free, TV and fun and games in jail. But nothing for the victims. What’s wrong with this picture?

hnbc

April 3rd, 2011
12:30 pm

If folks want the federal government to stop collecting and spending their tax dollars, why in the sam hill heck do our legislators continue to find ways to get federal dollars? We can’t have it both ways …. getting the federal government out of our lives and wanting the federal government to pay for programs.

Oh, that’s it, isn’t it? The state government really has no interest in supporting women and children from domestic violence (and, the few men who are also victims), do they? Sorry, I’m slow today.

Just another way to keep women from their full and equal rights. Since the Declaration of Independence only covers men, women are just left out, aren’t they?

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

Grannie

April 3rd, 2011
12:39 pm

And they wonder wht we have the highest teen pregnancy rate in the US ?!?!?

Ray

April 3rd, 2011
12:40 pm

Women’s domestic violence against men is grossly under reported, while male victims are still routinely being ignored by the taxpayer funded domestic violence industry. Credible research overwhelmingly shows that the ratio of domestic violence is at least 50/50 between women & men. Go to Fiebert Bibliography. According to one study by researchers who work at the CDC, in 70 percent of domestic violence incidents, where the d.v. is not mutual, it’s women who initiate the d. v. Go to Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting. Click on the link under the red & blue pie chart. D.v. law follows a gender feminist agenda over facts & does great harm to many innocent men & also many violent women. Go to Youtube, “Los Misandry. ”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAmOxvudpF8

Ray

April 3rd, 2011
12:43 pm

Domestic violence will never end as long as the whole truth about it is misrepresented to comply with feminist ideology. V.P. Biden recently called violence against women, “the very worst abuse.” The very worst abuse is valuing one life less than another for having been born the wrong gender. Under domestic violence law, the wrong gender is men. Shelter and services are virtually non-existent for male victims of domestic violence. Options out of a bad relationship, that women have, are often not available to men. Men wind up gender profiled by the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry, because of gender feminist ideology controlling the d.v. industry. Men are often battered by domestic violence, and then battered again by the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry as shown in “Los Misandry” at Youtube.

Ray

April 3rd, 2011
12:48 pm

What about little children? Deaths of little children, killed by their mothers, is egregious. Yet the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry disingenuously tries to make us believe that women are the main victims. According to the U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services and DOJ statistics, more kids are killed by neglect and abuse in a year (1,760 in 2007), than all the female intimate partner homicides in a year. Mothers are the single largest group of kid killers, according to HHS, and they have a rate twice that of fathers. Nowhere near the money is spent to protect kids from kid killing mothers as is spent by the domestic violence industry to protect women. The taxpayer funded d.v. industry is a bastion of misandrist vilification, falsely accusing men of being the overwhelming cause of d.v., and empowering violent women to commit further domestic violence. The corruption of the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry is characterized in “Los Misandry” at Youtube.

dmcsga

April 3rd, 2011
1:10 pm

Yall stop that crying! You voted for it now you deal with it! Can’t wait when they cut the schools and unemployment

A Conservative Voice

April 3rd, 2011
1:13 pm

@TrishaDishaWarEagle

April 3rd, 2011
11:58 am
C.M. , Most of us do..most of us do.

TrishaDWE, when the revolution starts, I want you beside me in the foxhole

Get real

April 3rd, 2011
1:23 pm

Maybe if more women took the law into their own hands and poisoned these “so called men” when they cook their last meal, they will survive the abuse….. I would believe many of the posters on this site do not have any issue in smacking the crap out of their spouse, significant other. We need more help for these women and children…… not less!

the Captain

April 3rd, 2011
1:23 pm

I always wonder why people like TrishaDishaWarEagle and A Conservative Voice don’t just move to their libertarian paradise of Somalia then?????????????

Oh that’s right, because the societies their Libertarian, Social Darwinist values produce, suck!

tar and feathers party

April 3rd, 2011
1:28 pm

Them battered women need to learn to listen and obey their betters!

Sick of Republicans

April 3rd, 2011
1:39 pm

Hey numbskulls – yes there are battered men and there are battered children as well as battered women. The point is without adequate funding to counsel these people on their alternatives, there will be more battering. All you idiots making fun of domestic violence, maybe you need to be battered to get it through your thick skulls that this is not appropriate behavior. You are disgusting human beings and I hope your child or children don’t ever get into a situation where they are battered because with your attitude you would send them back for more battering. Pathetic humans you are.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

April 3rd, 2011
1:44 pm

the captain, because the somali people are extremely ghetto..

Also, I hate all muslims..and most of them are muslims

As for social darwinism, yes I do approve. Humans are animals the same as all other animals, we are simply self aware. I owe nothing more to my fellow homo sapiens than a lion owes to other lions or a horse owes other horses.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

April 3rd, 2011
1:48 pm

@”The point is without adequate funding to counsel these people on their alternatives, there will be more battering.”

If someone is so stupid that they do not realize the alternative to being beaten is leave (or for that matter that there is contraception out there, without a school nurseneeding to providing it free..another dumb azz liberal argument), then no amount of pendantic government excess will save yu in the end, anyway. If government “counseling” helped end abuse, there would be no abuse today..since the programs exist as of today.

tar and feathers party

April 3rd, 2011
1:52 pm

Who cares, abolish funding for all these programs, the stupids will soon eliminate each other nicely.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

April 3rd, 2011
1:52 pm

@ACV

The revolution will NOT be televised, because we take out the MSM first:) Thats the liberals command and control.

atlpaddy

April 3rd, 2011
2:02 pm

If wanna-be revolutionaries, like TrashDish above, want to blow up Fox News, then I say go for it! They should be careful though, because they’ll have to go to that liberal cesspool, New York City, where are all the yankees, homosexuals, and scary muslims live!

LydiasDad

April 3rd, 2011
2:13 pm

No, it’s not for the businesses. It’s for the BLACK businesses. Bet they’ll still find a way to help black women. More racism from the GA legislature.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

April 3rd, 2011
2:18 pm

@atlpaddy, haha new yorkers deserve where they live . Been there..it’s like every third world inferior culture in the world threw up on a big pile of pop culture, and the resultant stench is unbelievable.

CNN is just downtown , and MSNBC broadcasts from a used fema trailer in al gore’s backyard, I am pretty sure.

Mama Says

April 3rd, 2011
2:29 pm

Lets get it right people, ok ?

facts ;

there are no shelters for men at state or federal expense

The shelters are not closing becuase they are being funded by Federal tax dollars as oppose to state tax dollars.

Women DO have some responsibility–in particuliar the cases where it’s a BOYFRIEND who is the abuser. If you put your hand in a ant hill you don’t leave it there fearing the movement in leaving will initiate more bites, like I siad before wives are a ifferent story.

Women don’t get pregnant due to the lack of federal dollars for domestic violence, they get pregnant because they have sex.

AND

The doctors, police and FAMILY VIOLENCE advocates have been begging for prescription medication tracking for 6 years——so people cannot abuse drugs and then beat their loved ones !

think people thats all you have to do !

Last Man Standing

April 3rd, 2011
2:32 pm

A Conservative Voice:
TrishaDishaWarEagle:

I want to be there with y’all, but forget the foxhole. We will be attacking rather than defending!

Last Man Standing

April 3rd, 2011
2:36 pm

Sick of Republicans:

“you would send them back for more battering.”

No, idiot, they choose to return. Nobody is sending them anywhere.

demandingjustice

April 3rd, 2011
2:47 pm

There are some women who use these domestic violence services as a ploy to gain advantages on divorces for custody, marital property divisions, and support. They kick the men out of their houses with the help of the courts. It’s a big scam and fraud on the courts. Of course, the judges don’t want to see their names in the papers. So, they grant these orders, expel the men, ruin their records, ruin their jobs, and give the women an extreme advantage in future proceedings.

Dollywood

April 3rd, 2011
2:54 pm

Okay, some of you posters are obviously lacking in education. The lack of knowledge displayed about Somalians, Muslims and Blacks leads me to believe we’ve got a bunch of people looking to blame. And for the record, you are your brother’s keeper, read your bible! You do have one don’t you? Or are you like most people attending church and haven’t a clue of what is expected of you from our Creator? Who do you pray to at night? What voices are you listening too? Perhaps you should swallow the Prozac until sanity kicks in.

Chris Brown

April 3rd, 2011
3:04 pm

That’s what I’m talking about. It was a racist program anyway.

Neil

April 3rd, 2011
3:05 pm

There are some women who use unsubstantiated restraining orders to get the upper hand in divorce and custody, although I bet those are a very small percentage of DV cases. Some women do game the system.

What is a mystery to me are the women who refuse to press charges and use the system to deal with their problem, but they expect the taxpayers to provide them with a place to live and other freebees. If you’re being battered, then deal with it and press charges. Someone in jail isn’t going to be battering you.

RealAmerican

April 3rd, 2011
3:07 pm

Clearly Trisha has been beaten all about the head, thus her comments.

Bobby

April 3rd, 2011
3:34 pm

Is this not the same Governor and Republican legislature that wants the federal deficit reduced? Yet they are willing to use it to try and avoid State of Georgia responsibilities? We have a Governor and legislature with no leaders or morals. But hey, Neil Boortz and his staff will be pleased at the further brow beating of Georgia’s poor so the wealthy can continue their lifestyle of content and joy.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

April 3rd, 2011
3:38 pm

Dollywood, my creator told me to take care of myself and not burden others. I do, and expect the same of others. I most definitivly am not my sisters keeper. Literally or figuratively.

P.S.
My creator also said she hated obama.

Btw I may not read the bible much since high school, when I learned that turning the other cheek and loving your enemies led to being a doormat and loser, but I harbor no hatred for christianity as I do with islam because christians are not at war with me and my way of life..and I have a holy trinity too.. Me , Myself, and I

@Last man standing… EVER FORWARD..no retreat, no surrender, no compromise. To hell with leftists, forever and always.

mike

April 3rd, 2011
3:42 pm

I see Georgia continues ahead with its march back into the past. Already cut education. Trying to get new tax cuts under the guise of no state taxes. Has yet to do anything about the water situation at Lake Lanier. I guess now it will be okay to beat up on women. Maybe that CrackerBarrel character should have waited until now. Then he can beat up all the women he wants.

Jeff Cooper

April 3rd, 2011
4:16 pm

EVERY shelter in the state of georgia offers safe haven for men. You cannot put both male and female in main shelter. Your morons, all of you because you misrepresent what is truly needed. Every shelter has funds for men to go to motels for generally longer than a female can stay at a shelter. Sure most men will chose to take care of themselves, but if they do seek shelter, and some do, they are well taken care of. If you haven’t seen or suffered true abuse and if you don’t know the laws or facts, pull your lip over your head and swallow. This is the most hate filled people in the country!

Reality

April 3rd, 2011
4:22 pm

Those that can’t compromise are doomed to conflict. Trisha is just spouting of the hate she is full of, ignore her.

Aquagirl

April 3rd, 2011
4:27 pm

I’m not sure what the Governor is trying to say. If your husband is beating you let him knock you up, so you’ll have somewhere to go? Men, get those beatings in before she has children? You don’t matter if you haven’t squeezed out kids? Boy, there’s some compassionate conservatism for ya.

Last Man Standing

April 3rd, 2011
4:31 pm

Bobby:

“Yet they are willing to use it to try and avoid State of Georgia responsibilities”

Bobby, exactly what do you see as the responsibilities of government, state federal or local? Do you perceive those responsibilities to meet everyone’s needs? Is there any point, Bobby, that idividuals must assume responsibility for themselves?

Last Man Standing

April 3rd, 2011
4:37 pm

Reality:

“Those that can’t compromise are doomed to conflict. Trisha is just spouting of the hate she is full of, ignore her.”

One never compromises principles. You can add me to the group with regard to muslims. I learned all I need to know about the “peace loving” muslims on 9/11. No need to tell me that it is just a small percentage of them or only radical muslims. I ain’t buying it. No muslims living in this country or anywhere else stepped forward to deplore the acts. In fact, I saw quite a bit of celebrating by muslims.

Ike Turner

April 3rd, 2011
4:37 pm

Dont womens need a good beating every now and then?