Your morning jolt: Like Atlanta, D.C. approaches racial parity

Atlanta isn’t the only major U.S. city approaching racial parity. From this morning’s Washington Post:

The number of African Americans residing in the District plummeted by more than 11 percent during the past decade, with blacks on the verge of losing their majority status in the city for the first time in half a century.

According to census statistics released Thursday, barely 50 percent of the District’s population was African American in 2010 — a remarkable shift in a place once nicknamed “Chocolate City.”

The black population dropped by more than 39,000 over the decade, down to 301,000 of the city’s 601,700 residents. At the same time, the non-Hispanic white population skyrocketed by more than 50,000 to 209,000 residents, almost a third higher than a decade earlier.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, Atlanta’s population of 420,000 is now 53 percent African-American. The city is deciding whether or not to appeal the population figure – which is 120,000 bodies less than the estimate made by the census bureau in ’09.

The New York Times has this nifty interactive census chart of the entire U.S.

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There are things you can say while you’re a state lawmaker, and things that have to wait until you’re out of office. From a piece on agriculture and illegal immigration in Georgia, in today’s Wall Street Journal:

“There is no farm in this county that could continue without Mexican labor,” said Robert Ray, a Crawford County farmer who for years led the agriculture committee in the Georgia House.

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Walter Jones of the Morris News Service today tells the story of a House committee chairman, who this week accepted amendments to a water-financing bill from others – but turned aside those offered by state Rep. Mark Hatfield, R-Waycross. One senses an inter-basin transfer argument.

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Today’s Marietta Daily Journal says former Cobb County Commission chairman Bill Byrne, who ran an unsuccessful campaign for governor in 2002, is seeking his old Cobb job again. He’ll be running against incumbent chairman Tim Lee.

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Today’s AJC Politifact looks at whether Gov. Nathan Deal was telling the truth when he said the HOPE scholarship “has helped turn our university system into one of the best in the Southeast.”

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And Atlanta blogger Stephanie Ramage has this:

The Atlanta Police Department has chosen a name for the unit formerly known as Red Dog: APEX, the acronym for Atlanta Proactive Enforcement & Interdiction. True, there is no “X,” but the unit hasn’t been obsessed with details in recent years and APEI doesn’t have the same ring to it.

The 36-person unit is scheduled for training March 28 through April 1. It will be under the command of Lt. J.D. Patterson.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

65 comments Add your comment

Common Cause Georgia

March 25th, 2011
8:26 am

Much more on the census and redistricting at http://www.CommonCauseGA.org.
There is a Redistricting Alliance making sure your vote will count 100%!

Bobby

March 25th, 2011
8:40 am

The Atlanta Police are as corrupt under Turner as they were Pendleton. Turner still refuses to discipline officers who violated citizens’ civil rights at the Eagle, thus perpetuating the doctrine of silence within APD rather than being honest and fostering dialogue. APEX, Red Dog, whatever will be as corrupt and violent under whichever name as long as Turner is Chief. Leopards don’t change their spots.

Jason

March 25th, 2011
8:44 am

Riddle me this… If Atlanta is such a terrible place to live and it is because of “the blacks”, why is the white population rising so quickly? Seems like these blogs are just a way for the klan wannaba members who are upset that only in the great plains states can they practice their hate openly to get out their frustration.

I’m sure y’all will come up with some convoluted explanation for why the white population in the city is growing so rapidly at the same time “the blacks” are destroying everything. Extra points if you somehow work in it being the fault of liberals, the media, and unions. Got to keep those talking points going, even if they have nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

findog

March 25th, 2011
8:53 am

The political demagogy of “Illegal Aliens” will finish off what the boll weevil started; so what will Georgia do after it loses its agricultural base?

BW

March 25th, 2011
8:58 am

One word: gentrification. It started in the 90’s continued in the “aughts” and now the effect has been recognized in the 2010 census. I don’t mind….perhaps once whites occupy the higher offices of government in Atlanta we can work together as a region to solve our collective problems. Then again a person can dream.

Aaron

March 25th, 2011
9:06 am

Atlanta is a bad place to live because of black people, yes. Who causes crime? Who ruined Buckhead? Who is ruining Atlantic Station? Who is suddenly causing crime in VA Highlands? Who does smash and grabs? Who sells drugs? Who committs murders nightly? What black people don’t understand is that white people don’t hate you because of your color, but because of reasons like I mentioned. White people are moving into the city because they are not from here and don’t know better.

Tancred

March 25th, 2011
9:16 am

I must be strange, but I’ve never had a problem with my Hispanic ATL brothers and sisters, “illegal” or otherwise. I think they give a lot more to our city than they take. In general, they are hard-working, family oriented, give us great food and music, etc. It’s weird that for all my years here, I’ve NEVER had a Hispanic person try to hit me up for money when I’m walking downtown. Buford Highway is an Atlanta treasure, and that goes for the Korean parts of it too.

John

March 25th, 2011
9:20 am

Who died and made Atlanta Capital of Black America (AJC)

Tancred

March 25th, 2011
9:22 am

I have to say that the Hispanics who cross Buford Highway with their kids in tow can freak out your average driver. I understand the behavior because I lived without a car for a while here, but y’all be careful out there (both pedestrians and drivers). Some good sidewalks and maybe some pedesrian bridges/tunnels might help.

phil

March 25th, 2011
9:23 am

Are these mostly black African-Americans or are North African-Americans included in the total?

RL

March 25th, 2011
9:23 am

Tancred – you must not have kids in the schools of metro Atlanta. The illegals are sucking the life out of the schools and taxpayer. What about illegal do you not understand? The y broke American law, they need to go. Period. By the way, born and raised in DeKalb Co. Buford Hwy. use to be OK. Now it is a dump.

Villanow

March 25th, 2011
9:24 am

I agree with Tancred!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

March 25th, 2011
9:25 am

Wait..i thought Nagin said New orleans was chocolate town?

Bobby

March 25th, 2011
9:28 am

Hey Trisha, I was thinking the same thing.

Bobby

March 25th, 2011
9:32 am

I don’t think Atlanta is a bad place to live because of blacks or hispanics. However, it is true black crime is in the stratosphere in Atlanta, even when counting only black on black crimes. If it were whites committing as many crimes on blacks as blacks are committing crimes on blacks the NAACP would screaming Atlanta had a racial problem. But as long as most crimes are being carried out by blacks on other blacks the NAACP, SCLC, and other black organizations are amazingly silent unless a cop (whether black or white) shoots a black person committing crimes.

K10

March 25th, 2011
9:37 am

1) It’s not the color of their skin, it’s the content of their character. Unfortunately, the people of color around here don’t have much character. That’s not racism – it’s statistics. ATL will be better off once racial parity is reached – that is, unless the white folks that move in are from the good ole boy counties or from the union thug North.

2) Americans, or other non-Mexican residents, cannot just waltz into Mexico and take up residence. At some point, el jefe will come and ask you for your papers, and if you don’t have them, and you don’t have the pesos to pay him off, you get thrown in a lovely Mexican jail. If you’re lucky, they’ll deport you back to your home country. But somehow, someway America is evil for wanting to enforce those same rules…

Ugh. I’m moving to Sweden.

jm

March 25th, 2011
9:39 am

Tancred,

I read your post yesterday and today. Please do not generalize every black person you know by the negative experiences that you have had in the past. Believe it or not most of us are hard working law abiding citizens who care about our families and our community. I have run across blacks that you described yesterday as well as white, hispanics,etc. I would never disciminate against any group of people based off of the bad experiences that I have has with a few.

It seems to me that the AJC post articles like this to further divide this city.

Bill Dipstung

March 25th, 2011
9:49 am

Atlanta considering reinstating Freaknik? Oh how soon we forget.

MomPossible

March 25th, 2011
10:02 am

I cannot fathom why white people would move into Atlanta. Between the failing schools, the traffic, the crime, the trash, the graffiti, and the ghetto mentality of black residents, there really are no redeeming factors. The white people moving in must be from out of state, or are somehow otherwise ignorant of all this. My husband has worked for the Atlanta Police Dept since 1988, and we live as far away from the city as possible – the drive time and cost of gas still do not tempt us to move ITP in the slightest.

joe

March 25th, 2011
10:02 am

I live in an in-town neighborhood, majority white, but we have a good amount of blacks and a few Hispanics. All who live here are educated, professional and classy. Everyone works hard, socializes, knows one another and has their children play together in the park. We have a really good neighborhood association and everyone keeps their house/yard in great condition and we do clean ups to make the common areas nice. Our biggest issue is crime.

We have house break ins, car break ins, vandalism, etc. The overwhelming majority of these criminals are gangs of black youth who ride the marta trains up from their own neighborhoods south of the city. Once they commit their crimes, they steal a car to drive their haul back to their side of town.

I’d place a bet that if we shut down marta, crime would take a huge drop off. On any given night, you can see a pack of these thugs getting off the marta train, walking to a nowhere in particular destination…but as soon as they see a target, well, you know the rest. In the course of these break ins, we’ve had some homeowners assaulted, raped, kidnapped, etc.

I spent my afternoon yesterday at the Glock training/shooting range as it’s only a matter of time until my house is hit…and I will hit back.

Corey

March 25th, 2011
10:05 am

Bill Dipsting, who in city government is considering reinstating Freaknik? Name one official who represents city government mentioned a welcome return of Freaknik? We are waiting Bill? Bill?

MomPossible

March 25th, 2011
10:07 am

@Joe – what will it take for you to give up and move? Does YOUR homd have to be burglarized, invaded, or your car stolen? Does one of your own family have to be attacked, raped, killed?

td

March 25th, 2011
10:10 am

Jason

March 25th, 2011
8:44 am
Riddle me this… If Atlanta is such a terrible place to live and it is because of “the blacks”, why is the white population rising so quickly?

It has nothing to do with race it is philosophy. Atlanta is bad because it is run bad the far left. It does not matter if they are white, black or green a liberal run government just sucks because they reward the non producers at the expense of the producers.

DannyX

March 25th, 2011
10:17 am

Whites are fleeing Gwinnett County. Gwinnett County is run by white people. In the last 10 years Gwinnett went from 67% white to 44%.

Could it be that white governments aren’t all they are cracked up to be? Look what the whites did to Gwinnett. They built, built, built back then. Roads? Who needs them. Housing? Poor quality. Greedy developers, poor planning, and corrupt public officials led to a very quick decline.

Of course they have found a scapegoat. It’s all the fault of the illegals.

Midtowner

March 25th, 2011
10:17 am

Well Mompossible, the perceived crime and “ugliness” doesn’t at all entice many of us to move into the ugly, sprawled, cookie cutter, closed minded, car-centric suburbs. Do yourself a favor and look at the crime map of my north Midtown/Ansley Park neighnorhood compared to your “safer” suburb. We had ZERO reported crimes in the past 60 days…ZERO. That’s car break ins/thefts, home invasions, muggings, graffitti etc….ZERO. I bet your little OTP bubble can’t even claim that. Crime is in bad neighborhoods just like any city but there are PLENTY of safe affluent and attractive intown neightborhoods that actually have character and history.

RIGHTISWRONG

March 25th, 2011
10:18 am

Aaron, you are an idiot. PERIOD.
If Atlanta was so awful, why do SOOOO many people love it? Regardless of what any bigot says, Atlanta is still one of the most friendly, beautiful, diverse, and sprawling cities in the world. The World you idiot. Guess who you can thank, a whole lot of black folks like Maynard, Andy, Herman, Felker, Hank, Joseph, Martin, John, Shirley, etc.,and a lot of white folks that worked hand and hand with them like: John Portman, W. Hartsfield, J Carter, G Busbee, H Talmadge, S Nunn, M Cleland, etc. Read a book, or do some internet research and you will see that this town was built by a diverse group of folks who worked together to share the regions wealth. Black folk were an integral part and you should Thank them everytime you enjoy anything in our wonderful city. You ungrateful piece of the gum under my shoe.

Let’s join Kasim in making this city even greater by trying to work together like the leadership of the past. If you don’t like it, LEAVE!!!!!!! Go back to the snow and mean folks, ya’ll not welcome round here!!!! lol

Furious Styles

March 25th, 2011
10:21 am

@Aaron What white people don’t understand is that when you Generalize a group of criminals with a WHOLE race, you sort of alienate yourself from being able to think clearly on what the problem is, who’s causing the problem, how the problem can be fixed, and how people can come together to make things better. Once you generalize the way that many of you do, all compromise, solutions and clear thinking is out the window.

Oh and another thing, the latest Census says that Hispanics have become the #2 ethnic group at 50 Million. It time for all white people to start generalizing Hispanics now. Imagine that. So much fear of blacks yet to have Hispanics slide in under the radar. What are white people like you going to do now??

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/24/census.hispanics/index.html?hpt=Sbin

DannyX

March 25th, 2011
10:22 am

Are whites afraid to live in Gwinnett? Whites fled Gwinnett.

At the same time Atlanta increased its white population. 31% to 36% in 10 years.

Bruce

March 25th, 2011
10:28 am

Black folk need to listen to people like Bill Cosby to fix their problems not people in the “race industry” like Jesse Jackson. Voting 95% the same way doesn’t help your cause and obviously shows you don’t think for yourself!

RIGHTISWRONG

March 25th, 2011
10:29 am

Mompossible, I hope your kids don’t listen to your ignorance. You might possibly be the worst mom. You and your NeoNazi Tea Party folks are going to continue to vote for taking funding from public schools, lowering your taxes and providing less services, and vote against making Health Care an affordable reality, then there is NO city in this country that is not going to have uneducated, poor, unhealthy populations. Duh!!!! So you watch your back because you guys are creating this mess. Go ahead and cowher you fat butt in your little house OTP and be SCARED of everyone that you don’t know. Meanwhile us folks with sense and education will be out here enjoying this great city with folks that want to enjoy life as well.

Stupid people should not be allowed to be Mom’s. From what I have read from you, you are awful…

MomPossible

March 25th, 2011
10:31 am

@Midtowner – your crime analysis skills need some updating – check this link for real time crime analysis for your area.
http://www.atlantapd.org/zone5.aspx

and I didn’t fall for the cookie-cutter suburbs. I live in a rural area which could not be more opposite from Atlanta in every aspect I described.

MomPossible

March 25th, 2011
10:33 am

RIGHTISWRONG – you obviously are a product of Atlanta public schools. There are several spelling and grammatical errors in your post. And don’t pretend things like that don’t matter.

DannyX

March 25th, 2011
10:33 am

“Voting 95% the same way doesn’t help your cause and obviously shows you don’t think for yourself!”

Like in Gwinnett County? Every single elected official in Gwinnett County government is white. Gwinnett County is only 44% white yet whites hold all the seats.

The whites keep voting for the whites in Gwinnett. Look at the place. Its horrible. Its so bad white people are fleeing.

RIGHTISWRONG

March 25th, 2011
10:39 am

@MomIMpossible
See, your wrong again. Change the subject if you like.
Unlike you, I run 2 companies while I am blogging to your dumb butt.
I am a product of one of the best Atlanta Private Schools, and 2 Atlanta University’s. BTW, you should never start a sentence with And. We ALL know you never went to school and we ALL pray for your kids. Hope they don’t listen to you at all.

Seen it ALL

March 25th, 2011
10:45 am

Yes the color of ones skin is not of itself is not a predictor of character. It is moral foundation or lack of it in so much of the AA community. As a white person living in SW Atlanta in a bad but slowly gentrifying neighborhood, I have seen unbelievable behavior and total lack of mores. Black cops “visiting” known drug houses. and prostitutes, supposed “good business owner:” with an EPA rap sheet dumping hazmat into our creek and then issuing death threats to the activists who are just asking to respect mother nature and one another but they know just to destroy property and each other. They don’t “respect” themselves so it is a missing value which creates instability in any society. The code of silence…when I get robbed and thugs were rolling both my herbie curbies down the street and imagine no one saw anything.. Some blacks of course do not condone this behavior (but are afraid to speak too publicly about it…especially to whites) but many in these kinds of neighborhoods condone it by playing the victim card (who is the real victim) by saying “they just trying to do what they gotta do.” Even if it means breaking the law or harming someone else. Where there is crime there is a large black population..why it that? No jobs, Don’t stay in school, don’t want to work, easier to be a thug? This is a culture that is horribly dysfunctional. If more whites move into the city maybe they will see how a civilized culture exists, for they have no real sense of it and assume all white people are rich! It will take many more generations to heal this culture and racial parity may help that cause.

Tancred

March 25th, 2011
10:47 am

jm:

I take your comments to heart. Talking about race is minefield because generalizations come out and soon people (myself included) sound as if they are blaming an entire race rather than a “culture” that happens to be composed of people of that race. I think Joe’s comment about his neighborhood shows the kind of ambiguity associated with these conversations. Hey, some of my best friends are black. That may sound like the typical, obfuscating white guy thing to say, but it’s true.

That said, I still stand by my basic point which is that there IS a black-led political structure in ATL with its associated constituents that consist mostly of black employees in various city, county, state, and even federal entities. Any objective analysis of this politcal/administrative culture woud give Atlanta a D- at best. Really.

Regarding “illegals,” history can show that good ol’ USA has not always treated the indigenous populations of North America in any sort of “legal” way. In fact, hundreds of actions by our own governments violated written and codified LAW. I am happy to continue to support Hispanics that come here and risk their lives and dreams to make a living. A more equitable distribution of funds for public school would be a way to educate them. Go to Plaza Fiesta on Clairmont and see how the Hispanics are “sucking the life out of” the city. Then again, as I said before, I really LIKE Hispanic people, and they make our city great. Anchor-babies are kinda cute, anyway, and it’s a good thing to educate them. Educate all kids.

Here’s my new bumper sticker:

I HAVE AN EXISTING CONDITION:
I’M A HUMAN BEING

Tancred

March 25th, 2011
10:51 am

Here’s a link to a book I reccomend to those who want to understand the basic reacial (b/w) dynamic that created this city:

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8043.html

Midtowner

March 25th, 2011
10:53 am

Mompossible: your point? yes I mapped it, my neighborhood, as I mentioned is north Midtown which if you came off the farm once in awhile you would know is between 14th street and the Buckhead bridge has had SEVEN crimes since Jan.1. Please explain your logic as to how this is
“dangerous”

td

March 25th, 2011
10:53 am

RIGHTISWRONG

March 25th, 2011
10:29 am

Your words give you away. You are a far left progressive at best and probably closer to being a communist. You think since you are part of” folks with sense and education” then you know best for everyone and should be part of the ruling class. You believe if the government does not take care of the poor then our country will fail and it must be the solution you and your other progressive elitist invents.

Have you thought that it may be those elitist programs such as the “great society” that are the reason so many people have this debilitating disease called entitlement. Your programs have zapped the life from the poor, you have told them they are poor and can not do any better so depend on me “the almighty government” to take care of you. You are not responsible for your actions, you do not have to learn, you do not have to work hard, you do not have to fight for what you want. All you have to do is sit back, vote the way I tell you too and collect your entitlements.

You and your progressive/communist attitude is what is wrong with our country. You really should go back and do some thinking and soul searching and run your own life and let everyone else run their own lives.

Tancred

March 25th, 2011
10:55 am

BTW. I think the AJC DOES like to start polarizing arguments; that’s the only way they can drive traffic to their web site, seeing that their hard-copy paper is, at best, litter box liner.

Midtowner

March 25th, 2011
10:59 am

oh wait missed a couple…10, mostly items stolen from vehicles, my god how do I survive a day.

td

March 25th, 2011
11:00 am

DannyX

March 25th, 2011
10:33 am

“Gwinnett County is only 44% white yet whites hold all the seats.”

The numbers are a little misleading. 30% of the population are Hispanic and at least 50% plus are illegal and can not vote. Look at the numbers by race for registered voters.

DannyX

March 25th, 2011
11:06 am

“The numbers are a little misleading”

The numbers are not close to being misleading. Gwinnett County government has no elected minorities. The whites there will only vote for white people.

Scandal after scandal has rocked Gwinnett the past few years, all involving white people. Yet you keep voting for whites.

Atlanta, Fulton and DeKalb have mixed race elected governments. Gwinnett only has whites.

GaBlue

March 25th, 2011
11:10 am

RIGHTISWRONG,

Hahaha! Did you hear that? **You** are the one who needs to do some soul searching. Wanting to work together with your neighbors to make your community a better place for everybody (instead of ignoring, fearing, or hating your neighbors) makes you “what’s wrong with this country.” HAHAHA! A entity without a soul suggests you search yours because you dare to both look for and work for a better, brighter future inside the traffic perimeter. That’s rich!

Midtowner

March 25th, 2011
11:16 am

There is always a movement in the northern suburbs about seceding from this or that…why not us? A legislator should introduce a bill suggesting the the portions of Dekalb and Fulton inside the perimeter break off to form their own county then let the ‘burbs see who they depend on. Better yet I’d introduce a motion suggesting ITP leaves the state of Georgia, let them run the numbers on what economic impact THAT would have. I love when OTP suggests they are self sufficent…Its Metro Atlanta not Metro Alpharetta, nobody who doesn’t live there wants to go there. Meanwhile Midtown and Downtown alone attract somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 million visitors annually pooring tax revenue into our economy.

Tancred

March 25th, 2011
11:29 am

They do have those “ITP” “OTP” stickers for your car. I understand why someone who lives ITP would display it, but I still can’t understand what values one would be expressing if they put an “OTP” sticker on their car. Pleasant Hill Road, anybody? Holy crap. I can’t say I don’t ever drive a car, but I do get to work in less than 30 minutes door to door; drive to a MARTA station and take the train. That is just a practical way to get around, a compromise, if you will. OTP is scary. And have you folks noticed a sort of OTP-creep into ITP what with all these ludicrous (not the “singer”) McMansions and tear-downs of perfectly good little ranchburgers. OTP seems to express an “It’s all about me” mentatlity.

Whatever.

DannyX

March 25th, 2011
11:37 am

“I love when OTP suggests they are self sufficent”

Excellent post Midtowner. Some suburbs can at least make that argument, not here. Atlanta suburbs have no name recognition. Their input into the overall image of the region is minor. Our suburbs can claim the Gwinnett Braves, Half Arena, bad traffic and the Big Chicken that’s it. Our suburbs contribute very little and demand plenty.

How about Arlington? Cowboys stadium, Texas Ranger baseball.

Or Anaheim? Hosting NCAA West regional, home to Disneyland, LA Angels of Anaheim, Anaheim Ducks and next year NBA’s Anaheim Royals.

Gwinnett Braves, lol.

LMAO

March 25th, 2011
11:41 am

Doesn’t matter

RIGHTISWRONG

March 25th, 2011
11:49 am

@td
Me communist? No. You retarded? Yes.

I am adopted fool. I have worked for everything that I have. I am not for entitlements but I understand that some kids (through no fault of their own) are born into situations that don’t allow them the same parental supervision and social fabric as others who are born into 2 parent households and supportive families. It is easy to sit on the sidelines and say every has the same opportunities. That’s BS. What folks like me want is the ability to not HAVE TO send our children to PRIVATE SCHOOLS! We want our tax dollars to actually work! The PUBLIC SCHOOL system should be able to educate ALL of OUR kids! The problem with you TEA PARTIERS is that you are SEPARATIST. Bigots and paux Elitist with no common sense. If you were born to parents who are not together or parents that were not there, would it be YOUR FAULT? Hmmmm. I’m waiting….
The answer is NO. Therefore, any civilized society HAS to take the responsibility of trying to prevent this from happening over and over again (via education), and WE as a society must raise this child. Turning your back, talking nonsense helps noone. Healthy educated kids that become young adults, become productive citizens. I mentor underpriveledged kids(for free), so I know. So, I am NOT COMMUNIST, but what I am is a REALIST. You are a SEPARATIST, in other words you sound like a bigot. Look at it this way, when you don’t have family, WE THE PEOPLE become your family in a civil society. No entitlements, we need to give the average person the same chance to succeed that you had. That means putting money (in a calculated and measured way) into the educational system and other support systems all striving to move folks to self-sustainability an productive lives. If we don’t we will see more crime and problems. I know, for you this makes to much sense to make sense. I simply think that you and the rest of the right is just wrong……..