Herman Cain: ‘I resent’ Muslims who try to convert us

Many have noted the pushback coming from social conservatives in Iowa, against suggestions that – given the economy – their issues should be set aside for the moment.

Republican Herman Cain at this month's Faith and Freedom Coalition forum in Iowa. Associated Press

Republican Herman Cain at this month's Faith and Freedom Coalition forum in Iowa. Associated Press

“If you turn your backs on the pro family pro life constituency… you will be consigned to permanent minority status,” Ralph Reed told presumptive presidential candidates earlier this month at his Faith and Freedom Coalition forum.

Among those at the event was Herman Cain, who must have been listening. The former candidate for U.S. Senate from Georgia has been getting some ink – bytes?—as a result of this passage from the tail-end of an interview with Christianity Today:

CT: When speaking about your battle with cancer at the Milner church, at one point, you indicate that you were a little uncomfortable when you found out that your surgeon’s name was Abdallah, until you found out he was a Lebanese Christian. So what’s your perspective on the role of Muslims in American society?

Cain: The role of Muslims in American society is for them to be allowed to practice their religion freely, which is part of our First Amendment. The role of Muslims in America is not to convert the rest of us to the Muslim religion. That I resent. Because we are a Judeo-Christian nation, from the fact that 85 percent of us are self-described Christians, or evangelicals, or practicing the Jewish faith. Eighty-five percent. One percent of the practicing religious believers in this country are Muslim.

And so I push back and reject them trying to convert the rest of us. And based upon the little knowledge that I have of the Muslim religion, you know, they have an objective to convert all infidels or kill them. Now, I know that there are some peaceful Muslims who don’t go around preaching or practicing that.

Well, unfortunately, we can’t sit back and tolerate the radical ones simply because we know that there are some of them who don’t believe in that aspect of the Muslim religion. So their role is to be allowed to practice their religion freely, just like we should be allowed to practice our religion freely, and not try to convert the rest of us.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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112 comments Add your comment

Tom

March 22nd, 2011
8:51 am

So their role is to be allowed to practice their religion freely, just like we should be allowed to practice our religion freely, and not try to convert the rest of us.

If only EVERYONE could follow this basic concept.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

March 22nd, 2011
8:54 am

Herman Cain 2012!! FAIRTAX.ORG

I do not see what the issue is with his above statement, at all. Maybe Keith Ellison can turn on the hystrionics and the water works again because someone didn’t kiss the pedophile mohammeds child rapist rear end, but oh well..thats life.

Love ya, Herm

tigermike

March 22nd, 2011
9:00 am

I cannot remember a time when I was approached by a Muslim person to convert me, either by force or persuasion, to convert to Islam. Countless are the times that I have been told by a Christian that I should believe how they believe or I am going to hell or that I am a substandard person because of it. I am glad for Herman Cain to join the world of religious tolerance, however begrudgingly. When I am given a choice of medical provider, I am more concerned about their medical school education than their religion. If you do my surgery well, you can worship a turnip.

RGB

March 22nd, 2011
9:02 am

Mr. Cain is absolutely correct in his characterization of Muslims in America. Nobody wants to be converted at the point of a gun.

David A. Staples

March 22nd, 2011
9:02 am

But it’s okay for Christians to try to convert the rest of the country to Christianity, right Mr. Cain? As for your 85 percent figure… how about the percentage of people who actually practice their faith… what is that number? I’d be willing to bet (if legally allowed in Georgia) that it’s nowhere near 85 percent.

GaBlue

March 22nd, 2011
9:04 am

I’m surprised that these people still allow Ralph Reed to be a mouthpiece for their alleged values.

Julie

March 22nd, 2011
9:06 am

“The role of Muslims in America is not to convert the rest of us to the Muslim religion. That I resent. ”
- Herman Cain

Herm, buddy, NO ONE likes having someone from another faith try to convert them. I could say the same thing about Mormons when they repeatedly come to my door and try to convert me. I don’t thinks it’s their job either to convert us to their religion, but I don’t spend my time getting angry and condemn them from doing what they believe.

jconservative

March 22nd, 2011
9:12 am

I agree with Cain to a degree.

I resent Baptists, Methodist and Assembly of God people from trying to convert me. And many have tried.

But, strangely, no Muslim has ever tried to convert me.

No Muslim has ever knocked on my door to pass out literature. No Muslim has ever invited me to a Mosque. No Mosque has sent me a letter inviting me to attend services.

Cain says: “And based upon the little knowledge that I have of the Muslim religion…”.

I find it ludicrous that someone would form firm opinions based on ignorance.

If Cain wants to be president, he will need to be president of the Muslims, atheists, gays, whites, straights, baptists and catholics as well as those he considers mainline Judeo-Christian.

This interview just took me out as a potential member of the Cain camp.

Brandon

March 22nd, 2011
9:13 am

Simply the MAN!!!!

Aquagirl

March 22nd, 2011
9:16 am

What an @$$hat.

just a thought

March 22nd, 2011
9:24 am

Alrighty then, let’s immediately get out there and recall all of the ‘CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES’ around the world who are ‘RESENTED’ by all! Wake up people! Do we really have this need to be fed things to be angered about? Is this the best that we can do? Whether we want to admit it or not, it is all about what needs to be said to people to get their vote! It doesn’t matter if the issues are real or made up, a politicians job is to say whatever they need to say to get a VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!

VOTES = GOOD PAYING JOBS!!!!!!!!!!! (For politicians) THAT’S IT, THAT’S ALL IT WILL EVER BE!!!!!!!

lex

March 22nd, 2011
9:29 am

I have NEVER had a Muslim try to convert me. On the other hand, I HAVE had Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Baptists try to convert me. Cain is simply playing to the right wing fringe of the Republican Party. He just lost me as a supporter.

DannyX

March 22nd, 2011
9:30 am

What exactly are the Muslims here doing?

Are they acting like the white man did when they invaded north America? Killing a whole race of people in the name of Jesus?

Lynn

March 22nd, 2011
9:33 am

And I don’t think we should sit back and tolerate the Evangelical Christians who go door to door and accost people on the street to convert others to their religion. Religious freedom includes the freedom not to practice religion. I resent people of any religion who try to convert me to their faith. My beliefs are my business.

P Camp

March 22nd, 2011
9:34 am

The difference in different faiths spreading their message is that ONLY the muslims are directed to convert you or KILL YOU!!! Other religions may want to convert you but they won’t take your life if you decline. Wake Up America!!!

rev. dave

March 22nd, 2011
9:35 am

Our world has matured and we are past the time of religious conversion. With the internet, anyone who is curious about a religious belief or system can find it themselves. Which was the original purpose of conversion. To let those who were uninformed, know what they were missing. That age is over. We are now in an age of self conversion.

John K

March 22nd, 2011
9:35 am

Funny, I too have never been the victim of Muslim conversion attempt, but I have by many Christians.

What is this being concerned the surgeons name was Abdallah? Seriously? I mean seriously? Not concerned he had good training and experience? Just that his name sounded like he might be on of………….”them.”

Oh well, he’s playing to his base. Foster fear and paranoia and you’ll always have a blindly loyal flock.

findog

March 22nd, 2011
9:41 am

CT: follow up, where do you think the Muslim’s got the idea of converting other’s to their faith or else killing them?

Herman: Well I’m not a History Professor but I heard that all pre-20th century wars were based on religion, so uh, well um, well I er, I want to be the GOP nominee for president so I stand by our party platform that Muslims are evil…

RetiredSoldier

March 22nd, 2011
9:42 am

Lex-

If that “cost you as a supporter” then I doubt you ever did support Cain.

mb

March 22nd, 2011
9:55 am

Hey Herman, you’re an idiot. Sit down and shut up.

Diogenes

March 22nd, 2011
9:58 am

So…Herman Cain just hates Muslims. There are plenty of proselytizing christian sects…and Herman Cain does not seem to resent them. Why? Because he hates Muslims.

[...] that he would never be an ideal candidate to hold any political office. Case and point care of the Political Insider at the Atlanta Journal Constitution: CT: When speaking about your battle with cancer at the Milner [...]

WoodyBass.com

March 22nd, 2011
9:59 am

Judeo Christian Nation? Huh?

Yyyeaaaa… me needs to blog about this.

tom

March 22nd, 2011
10:00 am

I get tired of the political correctness about not offending Muslims. Our President is one of the worst offenders. He treats them with kid gloves. Allow them to practice their religion and nothing more. Like it or not much of the terrorist acts that have been planned or committed in the US have been by Muslims. If they feel they are being mistreated, let them go to another country. They come into our country and open businesses with special incentives from our government that our US citizens are not allowed. I feel they are like those that prefer same sex relationships. Leave them be. However, no special treatment.

blue dog

March 22nd, 2011
10:02 am

Jconservative

Thanks for saving me time typing a response.
Herman should have experienced being a Catholic in middle Ga in the 50’s, 60’s. The Baptist hound you like you are an atheist…most “Christians” have no clue how “intolerant, self centered and self serving” they are…it is always those “other” religions that are the problem.
Herman is the perfect hypocrite…or Christian.

Rush's paid caller

March 22nd, 2011
10:04 am

P Camp @ 9:34am:
Not to pick on you but, a good reading of European history might be in order. Europeans spent over a thousand years killing European non-coverts of the same religion (Protestant vs. Catholics). This, of course, does not excuse Muslim extremists for doing the same thing. That religious dictate that you mention came about during a more barbaric period when Islam was struggling for survival. Do you really think most Muslims today, like members of other religions, are clinging to literal phrases from their past?

Mystic55

March 22nd, 2011
10:05 am

So….in other words, Herman Cain is no different than Mitt Romney except he hasn’t been the governor of a state and he hasn’t tried a health care plan like Obama’s.

Oh and he’s black. Which means supporting him proves you’re not ‘racist.’

But of course to Republicans, business experience = Executive experience. Even a single year. Obama was a community organizer….but because Obama wasn’t a governor for 2 years or didn’t run a pizza restaurant, he didn’t quality.

IOKIYAR.

luangtom

March 22nd, 2011
10:09 am

I resent the Christian movement to convert the world. I travel the Far East and am in constant contact with Americans that are trying to convert that part of the world to their forms of Christianity. One preacher went so far as to tell the local children that they were poor because they were not Christians. I brought to his attention that there were poor Christians in the world and he responded that they were the “wrong kind” of Christiains, not his variety of Christian. HUH?

This is a big part of why the USA is resented worldwide by local citizens. We try to shove Christianity, our form of Democracy and our morals down the throats of those not wishing to be like us. We need not go to other parts of the world, we should tend to our own flocks in the USA before we try to convert the world. Ours is a sad commentary on the state of Christianity in the USA.

Blssful

March 22nd, 2011
10:09 am

Herman: The less you know, the better you’ll do among Republicans! Good job, and I look forward to your show on Fox News when your campaign is over.

Resentment of Muslims + Little Knowledge = WINNING!!!!

GaBlue

March 22nd, 2011
10:10 am

Tom @ 10:00 has a point.

I’m SO SICK of all this special treatment! Let’s make the practice of religion in this country TRULY fair and balanced: Practice all you want, no more proselytizing with pamphets or junk mail, and TAX ‘EM ALL!

These alleged churches with their alleged relationships with God use our infrastructure, police & fire services, and sell promises & hope for CASH on Sundays. TAX ‘EM so we can pay our bills. Special treatment indeed. Buncha leeches.

View From Midtown

March 22nd, 2011
10:14 am

He’s worried about Muslims trying to convert people? I believe the psychological term for this is ‘projection’. Conversion is at the core of Evangelicalism (which he erroneously conflates with all Christianity). He’s wrong with some of his numbers as well, as according to the latest Pew report, Christians account for 78% of Americans. He may just have been using older statistics however, as the number of Christians is shrinking, while the ranks of the un-religious are growing.

DW

March 22nd, 2011
10:48 am

I hope Mr. Cain applies the same standard to those Christians who try to convert non-Christians.

Last Man Standing

March 22nd, 2011
10:49 am

“And based upon the little knowledge that I have of the Muslim religion”

I learned everything I will ever need to know about muslims on 9/11. America is a Christian nation, despite what Hussein has to say.

Mystic55

March 22nd, 2011
11:14 am

And that’s all you need to know about Herman Cain.

If Herman Cain is saying things like this to attract the vote of people who “Learned all they need to know about Muslims on 9/11″ then do you really want someone like that in charge of the government?

How long will it be before you’re not the right kind of CHRISTIAN either?

Alabama Communist

March 22nd, 2011
11:14 am

Not to outdone! The religious spiritual group known as the Venus Reverse Cult said they could convert Cain in a heartbeat if he was willing to visit their Gold Strip Club in downtown Atlanta..

Nuhoh

March 22nd, 2011
11:16 am

It’s not freedom OF religion that I support, it’s freedom FROM religion.

Tom

March 22nd, 2011
11:20 am

Sorry, LMS, but the US is no more a “Christian nation” than it is a “white nation”.

As of 2009, the population of the U.S. was ~74.8% white (alone).

As of 2008, the percentage of U.S. adult population that consider themselves as part of one of the Christian denominations was 76.0%. The 1990 figure was 86.2%.

Rob

March 22nd, 2011
11:21 am

Freedom of religion means you can try to convert anyone you want.

If you don’t want to be a Muslim, then don’t become one. And if you don’t want to be a Christian, then don’t become one. And if you don’t want to be an atheist, then don’t become one. But don’t tell people they have no right to advocate for what they believe in.

DW (the real one)

March 22nd, 2011
11:25 am

@Aquagirl

You took the words right out of my mouth. What a moron this guy is.

lex

March 22nd, 2011
11:26 am

Retired,
I was considering Cain because of his stance on fiscal and economic matters; but I will no longer even consider him. I’m sick and tired of these far right so-called Christian loonies telling me how to live and hating everybody who is different from them.

DW (the real one)

March 22nd, 2011
11:28 am

@lex

you should run for president. The rest of the gop just doesnt get it

Thomas

March 22nd, 2011
11:33 am

Huh? I am in my forties and have never once in my life had a muslim try to convert me.

Last Man Standing

March 22nd, 2011
11:38 am

Tom:

“As of 2008, the percentage of U.S. adult population that consider themselves as part of one of the Christian denominations was 76.0%. The 1990 figure was 86.2%.”

76.0%? I rest my case upon your words.

Last Man Standing

March 22nd, 2011
11:46 am

Mystic55:

Actually, I do know quite a bit about the muslim school of thought. I made it my business to do a lot of research after 9/11. Anyone who didn’t was very foolish. As I learned more and more about the muslim ‘faith’, I became more and more convinced that 9/11 should have taught everyone all they needed to know.

Don’t speak of the peaceful religion of Islam – because it isn’t.

Islam teaches it followers what to do with the ‘non-believers’, and what it teaches is NOT to leave them alone. They are instructed to convert, elslave or kill the ‘non-believers’.

Tom

March 22nd, 2011
11:48 am

So, LMS, by your rationale the U.S. is also a “white nation”?

At what percentage does your nomenclature change?

Does the -10.2% variance ‘90-’08 make the U.S. a “declining-Christian nation”

TrishaDishaWarEagle

March 22nd, 2011
11:55 am

Ah the leftist embrace of the noble muslim ..haha this blog is as funny as when the gays were clapping for ahmedinijad at the UN because they thought he was showing up Bush. Strange bedfellows, since Ahmedinijad and his mullah masters cure for gayness is to cut the gay in half and toss both halves back in the closet. I think stalin had a word for American leftists in the 30’s..useful idiots..people who invite their own eventual destruction.

Obama 2012

March 22nd, 2011
11:59 am

I know Mr. Cain personally and wish he would have won the Senate seat for GA when he ran. However, I hope he is not used as a tool for the GOP, he is better qualified than Palin and a lot more intelligent to, but I do not see Palin supporters jumping over to support him, even though he supports many tea party issues.

ep

March 22nd, 2011
12:01 pm

I can’t help but think of History of the World, Part 1 with Mel Brooks singing “The Inquisition”

I Know You Are But What Am I

March 22nd, 2011
12:03 pm

This simply confirms that Herman Cain is more concerned with patronizing and fanning the flames of the anti-Muslim constituency (read the Tea Party) than leading the entirety of this country into the future.

Herman, you’re a one-note singer, and you’re tone-deaf to boot.