Tea partyers kill health care insurance bill

Tea party enthusiasts are claiming the first scalp of Crossover Day.

House Republicans pulled the bill to create health care exchanges, as mandated by last year’s federal health care legislation, from today’s calendar after a series of proposed amendments failed to mollify tea partyers.

Atlanta Tea Party leader Debbie Dooley credited a barrage of phone protests from various tea party groups across the state. She and another leader, Julianne Thompson, met Tuesday with state Reps. Ed Lindsey, R-Atlanta, Donna Shelton, R-Dacula, and Richard Smith, R-Columbus, and representatives of Gov. Nathan Deal.

“We targeted Governor Deal – because it was his bill, and he was pushing it,” Dooley said.

HB 476 would have allowed for the creation of larger pools of insured patients, spreading risk and lowering costs. Lawmakers had tried to argue with tea partyers that –without state action – the federal government will step in and do the same thing. Without input from the state.

Absent any court action, Georgia has yet another year to revisit the issue. Here’s the statement from Deal spokesman Brian Robinson:

Governor Deal, in consultation with the General Assembly, has decided to put on hold legislation that would create Georgia’s health insurance exchange.

A federal district court has agreed with Georgia’s position that Obamacare is unconstitutional, and we are awaiting an expedited ruling from the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. The governor believes the court will affirm the lower court ruling. The state needs injunctive relief to remove these costly mandates.

In the meantime, the governor will create an advisory committee to study our options for a health insurance exchange. The governor has to follow federal law as it stands.

If Georgia must have an insurance exchange under federal law, the governor wants to ensure that our exchange is established by and run by Georgians. The alternative is having an exchange established by and run by Washington bureaucrats. The governor considers the latter unacceptable.

The governor understands Georgians’ suspicions about any legislation associated with Obamacare. He shares their opposition to the federal takeover of health care. The governor wants Georgians to have time to study this issue and discuss it thoroughly, as we wait for the judicial process to play out.

The governor of Georgia is going to fight for the prerogatives of Georgia, and he’s going to engage Georgians about how we expand access to health care insurance while lowering the burdensome costs on our state’s families.

The bottom line is: Georgians don’t want more federal “solutions” and the best way to fight back is manufacture a Georgia solution.

Certain Republicans have pointed out that Georgia legislation to establish health care exchanges pre-dates Barack Obama and last year’s health care legislation. For instance, state Sen. Judson Hill, R-Marietta, introduced SB 28 in 2007 — which would have had much the same effect. The “Insuring Georgia’s Families Act” wasn’t just signed by Hill. Chip Rogers, now Senate Majority leaders, and Tommie Williams, now Senate president pro tem, were also sponsors.

But over at PeachPundit.com, Charlie Harper explains why this argument didn’t sell:

Because the exchanges are mandated by “Obamacare,” they are dead to a large number of skiddish legislators who believe they must not in any way be associated with a federal takeover of health care.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

85 comments Add your comment

Edward

March 16th, 2011
10:34 am

First mistake is trying to present a logical argument to people who have absolutely no ability to comprehend logic.

abouttime

March 16th, 2011
10:43 am

Edward: You are absolutely on the money with that comment.

Aquagirl

March 16th, 2011
10:45 am

So Tea Partiers would rather have the federal government run this program? Instead of the state? Oh, that’s right, reality has no bearing on their actions. Loons.

jeff

March 16th, 2011
10:48 am

“HB 476 would have allowed for the creation of larger pools of insured patients, spreading risk and lowering costs”

So, the Tea Partiers are for free market, cpaitalist principles unless thoes free market, capitalist principles are somehow tied to Obama. Seems to be a case of chopping off your nose to spite your face.

Bruce

March 16th, 2011
10:50 am

I totally second Edward’s comment. The Tea Party folks fail to comprehend logic and moderation.

Centrist

March 16th, 2011
10:50 am

It is very unlikely the unpopular “Obamacare” health plan will survive in its present form. It makes little sense for the legislature to adopt parts until the Supreme Court rules on it, it gets the necessary funding from Congress, and which amendments are adopted to change it.

Sharon

March 16th, 2011
10:52 am

Couldn’t have said it better, myself, Edward. Logic wouldn’t make any difference, anyway. If “Obamacare” would make the sky bluer and the grass greener (for free & with no tax increase and with no damage or detrimental effect, whatsoever), Tea Partiers would search for reasons to be against it just because it was associated with Obama. That’s unfortunately the world we are living in these days. And, worse, communication willl continue to break down because they’ll never understand why the rest of us question the intelligence of their arguments with logic like that.

Michael

March 16th, 2011
10:53 am

I have never voted yes on a SPLOST and never will. Why do these conservatives bitch about taxes and then vote to raise their own taxes. Oh yeah, illogic.

Lynn

March 16th, 2011
10:53 am

I agree with all of the above. Please, folks, remember this craziness when it’s time to vote. Let’s rid ourselves of these pseudo-Libertarian/Tea Partiers. They are “true believers” — and people of this ilk on either side of the fence don’t offer any real solutions.

Pat Robertson's Boy Toy

March 16th, 2011
10:55 am

It makes little sense for the legislature to adopt parts until IF the Supreme Court rules on it,

There! Fixed that for ya! Don’t thank me, I do it out of love for my fellow man……..

jd

March 16th, 2011
10:55 am

Consider the resumes of those asked to make this decision. How many have had experience managing policy for an organization with more than 10 million customers and revenue exceeding $40 billion? The voters should be fired, the in the words of the Donald, for making such poor hiring choices.

Aquagirl

March 16th, 2011
10:58 am

Gosh, Michael, maybe those conservatives drive on roads and use running water. They might understand other taxpayers shelled out money for infrastructure, and using it while hanging onto every penny in their tight little fists makes them leeching a-holes.

Just a thought.

killerj

March 16th, 2011
11:04 am

Your a fool to ever agree to it,ever heard of getting your foot in the door ?,2012 can,t come soon enough.Go Tea Party.

Michael

March 16th, 2011
11:05 am

Shouldn’t the govt use the money it already takes from us for infrastructure rather than building yet another Go Fish pond? No, sorry, go ahead and tax yourself for that new library or whatever that always sounds so good in the SPLOST proposal. I thought Georgians had finally figured it out when they voted No on the trauma centers. I thought that they figured out that whatever fund was created would be re-purposed to something else. Go Tax Yourself.

Last Man Standing

March 16th, 2011
11:05 am

Centrist:

You’re right, and this is definitely headed to the Supreme Court.

Ron

March 16th, 2011
11:05 am

So, it makes sense for you to pay for another person;s health care because they don’t want to pay their own way? If they would stop getting handouts then maybe they would accept responsibility for their situation. I would also like to see Oblahma do something about the deficit besides try to spend, spend, spend. As for your roads – I would like to see all of them fo toll for the drolls that use them.

John

March 16th, 2011
11:05 am

When will lawmakers realize that Tea Partyers are a loud but insignificant minority in this state and that we can ignore them? Tea Party members tried to kill he education SPLOST Tuesday in Carroll and Haralson counties, both conservative counties, with their usual negative and misleading advertisements but voters overwhelmingly approved the tax in both counties. That showed ho much support Tea Party groups really have.

RetiredSoldier

March 16th, 2011
11:06 am

AQ-

I predict the Supreme Court will find Obamacare unconstitutional so all this is really not necessary.

Just Wait

March 16th, 2011
11:13 am

Tea Party Patriots. I don’t see what is so patriotic about what they do. Just as they claim others are forcing their will on them, they are forcing theirs on others. That is not patriotic. Let’s hope their 15 minutes soon come to an end and they simply fade away.

Aquagirl

March 16th, 2011
11:13 am

RS—don’t take this the wrong way, but delaying this matter based on your personal prediction isn’t logical.

I have no idea how the Supreme Court will rule. And frankly, neither do you. You can offer opinions on blogs all day long but the real world doesn’t fall in line with something simply because you wish it was so.

jconservative

March 16th, 2011
11:16 am

What happened to the 10th Amendment folks in the Tea Party?

I can see Russia from my house aka half governor of Alaska

March 16th, 2011
11:17 am

All you complainers, just come on up to Alaska and cross over in to Canada and get your health care.

You betcha!

moe

March 16th, 2011
11:19 am

Our country and state is being run by a bunch of lunatics!

Benny

March 16th, 2011
11:20 am

What was that the greatest liberal of all times said? Oh yeah, if I have 2 cows and my neighbor has none then I should give him one cow. That’s right – it was Karl Marx. Sort of like this health care nonsense. I pay my bills and had health care. Now my premium has nearly doubled since the liberals got into the health card business. I also have to now pay for some other bottom feeding leach’s health care. It comes not from the government but from the taxes I pay. Oh, and how many big corporations are now hiring without benefits like health care. Liberals did what no conservative could and that is make millions for corporations off of cheap labor and let the government pick up the tab. Idiots.

ProgressivePeach

March 16th, 2011
11:23 am

Can we just file the paperwork and officially change the name from “Republican Party” to “Tea Party”

Middle-classer

March 16th, 2011
11:24 am

Its ok when the TeaPartiers shoot themselves in the foot but now they want to sink all of us with their asinine antics. Let’s form a political party that honors the Middle Class Americans not the weirdos.

RetiredSoldier

March 16th, 2011
11:29 am

AQ-

Yor are correct, the the country/world did fall in line with my views both would be a far better place. But then I’m sure just a few on here might disagree slightly. Like you I have very specfic opinions, my opinion on the constitutionality of Obamacare is shared by many.

Sal

March 16th, 2011
11:44 am

Ron

Everyone that doesn’t have health insurance is usually forced to get a handout from the taxpayers in one form or another . It costs all of us as a society . Ron why don’t you go parrot on one of those simple minded wing sites & leave the problem solving to the big boys .

Joe

March 16th, 2011
11:45 am

@ middle classes

A party made up of radical moderates : )

GaBlue

March 16th, 2011
11:46 am

Middle-classer,

In case you haven’t noticed, the super rich have declared war on us, and it’s going well for them. They already own our government. One reason for their success is that they’ve duped some of us into turning on each other. Divide and conquer: the oldest, most elementary tactic of conquest. When we try to stand up for ourselves, they (or their sad little pawns) scream, “Wealth envy! Class warfare!” But the reality is, it’s only class warfare when we fight back. Are you ready? I am.

david

March 16th, 2011
11:53 am

What does skiddish mean? Hebrew?

Ron

March 16th, 2011
11:54 am

Sal
So typical. Once a person gets a handout it becomes a tight. Yes, you big boys have really screwed this country with this deficit. Time has passed to blame Bush and repubs. Reality is that liberal trash got us to this deficit problem. If you go into debt does it make sense to you to spend your way our? Now as difficult as this is try and think this through. Spend more to get out of debt. Make sense to liberals.

Aquagirl

March 16th, 2011
11:55 am

“Yor (sic) are correct, the the country/world did fall in line with my views both would be a far better place.”

Nope, didn’t say that. But thanks for the clear demonstration of wish-fulfillment based thinking. I don’t subscribe to it myself.

At some point in our childhood, most of us shift from “I think it should work this way, therefore it WILL happen this way” to “thinking the world will always go my way creates serious problems when I run into reality.”

Apparently you have a lot in common with the Tea Party. If you want that box of sugary cereal, pitch a meltdown tantrum in the grocery store. At the very least, you’ll get attention and others will stop what they’re doing to accommodate your behavior.

The Goobernator

March 16th, 2011
11:56 am

@Benny My health insurance has doubled thanks to Republicans allowing their campaign contributing cronies in the insurance business to run amouk with high rates and a plethora of lawyers that are hired to do anything but allow the subscribers to actually receive benefits in their contracts.
I agree with the others, The Tea Party contradicts their ‘free market’ slogan by opposing this bill, and turn it into a childish ‘you can’t play in my sandbox’ fight.
I am surprised the TPers and Republicans are fighting the HEalth Reform bill, it does nothing to lower rates and keeps their fatcat insurance cronies making big bucks.

GaBlue

March 16th, 2011
11:58 am

Ron just called President Reagan “liberal trash.” Dang.

yuzeyurbrain

March 16th, 2011
12:00 pm

Health insurance exchanges will be there in some form even if the Supreme Court only partially upholds the Health Care Reform Act. And the people of Georgia will be better off with a Federally created and run insurance exchange. Get real, do you really think the Georgia powers that be really care about the 2 million Georgians who have no health insurance currently? If they did, they have had all this time until now to do something about it and have not. And who do you trust more for efficient admin. of a new exchange: Ga. DFACS or the Fed. Soc.Sec.Admin.? While people can have honest disagreement on this point, I have had personal experience with both levels of govt. and have far more trust and confidence for the Feds getting it right. The only thing we probably avoided with the TeaParty obstinence is a chance for Deal and his buds in the insurance industry to structure the exchanges to further line their own pockets.

Chuck

March 16th, 2011
12:06 pm

I can’t believe this Obama fool! Before he was elected, we were a fiscally conservative country that always had a budget surplus. We didn’t pass laws that even could challenged as unconstitutional. Opps, drank the wrong Kool-Aid.

DannyX

March 16th, 2011
12:12 pm

“Time has passed to blame Bush and repubs.”

You wish. How do republicans plan on fixing their own part of the deficit mess?

How do we fund the Socialist Medicare Part D? Republicans rammed this down our throat in the middle of the night without funding it.

How do we pay for the 2 wars that were left unfunded?

How do we pay for the brand new big government Department of Homeland Security that was left unfunded?

How do we account for the massive tax cuts handed out during a time of massive spending increases?

What is the plan Ronnie?

downtowner

March 16th, 2011
12:17 pm

@ Chuck 12:06 pm

That was BUSH that threw away the budget surplus that existed when he first came into office, with his Iraqi War, Afghan War, etc. Clinton left him and the country a nice surplus, which BUSH squandered.

Chuck

March 16th, 2011
12:20 pm

DannyX,

You already know how Republicans will pay for all of the Bush error [sic] costs. Cut taxes and blame Democrats for the deficit!

I'm an American First

March 16th, 2011
12:33 pm

The more I read these idiotic responses reinforces my belief that not one of you, pro or con, has a clue as to what you are talking about, including the author of this pot stirring trash.

bob from account temps

March 16th, 2011
12:34 pm

sounds like tea party forlks were the only group looking past the state proposal and considering the ramifications of the court battle on the federal front. sound responsible to me.

The Great Progressive

March 16th, 2011
12:41 pm

War. Theft. Control. That’s me in a nutshell.

The Great Progressive

March 16th, 2011
12:42 pm

Oh yeah. Extreme Nationalism too.

The Goobernator

March 16th, 2011
12:46 pm

@Chuck. Bush left us with a 1.2 Trillion dollar deficit by the time he left office. He also created the first stimulus bills, but unlike Obama, his stimluus did not require the big businesses to repay the bailouts! More deficit!
Don’t blame it all on Obama or our legislators in office since Jan. ‘09.

td

March 16th, 2011
12:54 pm

DannyX

March 16th, 2011
12:12 pm

“How do we fund the Socialist Medicare Part D? Republicans rammed this down our throat in the middle of the night without funding it”

And who was the co author and chief supporter of this bill in the US Senate? Oh yea, that staunch conservative Ted Kennedy. This bill and “No child left behind” (also written by Ted Kennedy) were the two biggest mistakes GWB in his Presidency. This was at the time he thought working with liberals was a good thing. Bush’s domestic agenda was for the most part not conservative and as a result we now have the Tea Party.

“How do we pay for”

You pay for Homeland security by cutting out the Department of Education because education is a state issue and not the Federal government. You cut funding to NPR, Family planning, the arts and any other liberally funded pet project. You enforce our current immigration laws and send all the illegals back to their countries. You stop stalling and open the gulf back up, Alaska and all the other places the oil companies say we have a ton of oil. This would stop all the unemployment and all these people would then be paying taxes instead of receiving benefits. You stop Medicaid for 90% of its recipients. We should never pay for this for able bodied people that are to dang lazy to work and buy their own insurance.

I solved all your problems now just go out there and get your liberal friend to agree on this legislative agenda.

Pedro

March 16th, 2011
1:01 pm

@ I’m an American First – You have just summed up the entire commentary and the article itself. Thanks.

Corey

March 16th, 2011
1:13 pm

A fringe element born out of sheer hate and will never live down the fact that a man of color with a D in front of his Swahili/Arabic name would have the audacity to be elected POTUS fair and square by more popular votes than any president in the history of this great republic. Nothing to see hear folks. Let’s move along. Coming up in 2012:Vile and disgusting rhetoric the likes we haven’t seen since Jim Crow was in its throes.

Libral Dimohkrat

March 16th, 2011
1:20 pm

I want gubmint to do evrything for me!!!

Libral Dimohkrat

March 16th, 2011
1:20 pm

Corey

YES! RACE CARD!!