Mark Hatfield: Birth-certificate bill would no longer apply to Barack Obama

Apparently, politics within the birther movement are just as ruthless as politics anywhere.

On Thursday, state Rep. Mark Hatfield, R-Waycross, author of the bill to require President Barack Obama to provide certified proof of his U.S. birth if he wants to be on the Georgia ballot next year, was interviewed on an Internet program called “Reality Check Radio.”

Listen to a six-minute audio clip here.

In the interview, Hatfield announced that he’d made some changes to HB 401. The material applying to Obama has been stripped away, he said:

”The bill has undergone some change since it was originally introduced. We have a substitute that’s drawn up, but I’ll just tell you basically, as originally introduced, the bill would require that a presidential or vice presidential candidate submit an affidavit showing that he or she meets the requirements of natural-born citizenship, age and residency – 14 years residency in the United States…..

“The bill also, as to the affidavit, originally included some language…that would ask that the candidate swear to the fact that he or she had never held dual citizenship or multiple citizenship and that the candidate had only had allegiance to the United States of America….

“Now, that has changed with the substitute…..Issues have been raised. A lot of people are saying it’s a political bill. So in order to allay concerns about the bill’s potential political nature, I have proposed a substitute, which would move the effective date of this bill to July 1 of 2013.

“And that makes it clear that President Obama would not be subject to the requirements of the bill. Yet we would still be able to get into law some definite means of enforcing the Article 2 Section 1 requirement.

“The substitute would also remove the dual citizenship issue, multiple citizenship….”

Judging by the chatter on birtherreport.com, that didn’t sit well with true-believers, who began accusing Hatfield of caving. The Waycross lawmaker responded with an e-mail, posted on the same blog, that implies the deletion of Obama-oriented language need not be permanent:

Please understand that I am dealing with recalcitrant leadership which will not allow the bill to move through the committee process. We are trying to get the bill dislodged from subcommittee, and this proposal was made in an attempt to get the House leadership to allow the bill to be considered.

The bill would not be required to stay in this form, but we have to try something to get the bill moving. If we don’t get some movement right away, the bill will be dead for the year.

You don’t need to convince me that Obama needs to be subject to a law requiring proof of eligibility; I believe it wholeheartedly and have been actively advocating for it for years. Your efforts would be better spent contacting the leadership of the Georgia House and demanding that the bill be allowed to move.

Nothing short of massive public outcry is going to get their attention it seems. I would appreciate your efforts and continued support of the bill.

Please pass this information on. I don’t need people on my own side throwing me under the bus! Thanks!

This message from Hatfield was posted as well:

…We had initially 94 signatures, more than enough to pass the bill, when it was introduced. After the media got hold of the bill and started screaming, House leadership suddenly went cold on the bill.

Not so mysteriously, more than 20 state reps. took their names off the bill in one day. And many of these reps. were from highly conservative areas of the state. Many, however, were also former dems who switched parties when republicans won the majority. The bill has been consistently ripped in the liberal Atlanta media.

There are still many cosponsors of the bill, however, over one-third of the GA House. And many who took their names off have said privately they would vote for the bill if it comes to the floor. The bottom line, though, is we need public support before next week. Wednesday is the last day for the bill to move (although we may even after Wednesday be able to tack it on to something else).

Readers on birtherreport.com are now being asked to contact members of the House Republican leadership They are being advised – not by Hafield, let us emphasize – to go light on the Obama-bashing, so as not to offend former Democrats.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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209 comments Add your comment

Jingo Riptide

March 12th, 2011
11:25 am

Have any of the Cool Kids checked out birtherreport.com? I’d hate to think I was missing out on some cheap entertainment.

aamom

March 12th, 2011
11:33 am

Jingo Riptide

March 12th, 2011
11:35 am

Never mind. That was as entertaining as a Klan rally.

Toes the Line

March 12th, 2011
11:38 am

What a bunch of yahoos. Anybody checked their progress on really important issues in GA lately? Education? Water? Budget? Good thing IQ isn’t a qualification to serve in the esteemed GA legislature, otherwise THIS bozo would be sitting down in the wastelands that elected him.

majii

March 12th, 2011
12:00 pm

It will be interesting seeing the reaction of these birthers after President Obama supplies all of the necessary documentation to have his name placed on the ballot in 2012–the same information that is readily available on the internet, that PolitiFact has verified as accurate, and that Farah has verified on his WorldNutDaily site. I guess they’ll then move on to the issue of whether Barack Obama is human or not! LOL

Unbelievable!!!!

March 12th, 2011
12:00 pm

Stupidity must be a requirement to be a Representative because I am sure if he was intelligient he could come up with something more important than this!!

Georgtown

March 12th, 2011
12:05 pm

Well, glad “someone” is looking out for the US to ensure that “foreigner” don’t come in and try and run the Country into the ground. Just think about it without these safety measures any foreigner can come in and run the country.

khc

March 12th, 2011
12:08 pm

once a penal colony….sure seems like always

McCoy

March 12th, 2011
12:08 pm

Watching Georgia politics closely now for 40 years, I’ve seen castration bills, embarrassing numbers vote for George Wallace, JB Stoner and a legislature that installed Lester Maddox as Governor over an eminently more qualified Republican. I can sadly say, I have never (never would have thought) seen the kind of mean spirited, manipulative, state killing power agenda that I am witnessing under the gold dome now.
If the federal government told the Georgia legislature that they would no longer collect taxes in Georgia in exchange for Georgia waiving its right to receive any federal dollars, this bunch would probably take the deal … and God help the minorities and women left in the state.

khc

March 12th, 2011
12:09 pm

heck, he’s one of the smart ones

Georgtown

March 12th, 2011
12:11 pm

I can see it now a Radical Muslim taking over the US, because people are afraid that asking where he was born, would be too offensive. How dare we question his veracity?. Let’s be civilized, have these safety measures in place, protect our Country. Thank You Georgia for loving our Country. Thank You Mark for being smart and courageous.

James

March 12th, 2011
12:18 pm

I believe a state and it’s people have to right to ask for any documentation THEY FEEL will satisfy a candidate’s qualifications under Article 2 Section 1 of the US Constitution. Those who want to get on the ballot need to exercise “Due Dilligence” and produce the required documents. It’s really that simple. Produce the documentation or you don’t get on the ballot.

The states are sovereign and its people have right to insure that ANY (INCLUDING OBAMA) candidate placed on their ballot is eligible under the US Constitution.

As Obama has said,

“The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.”

sunshine

March 12th, 2011
12:19 pm

So, the rest of the country is seeing a decline in unemployment while we see more people out of work and our leaders still want to focus on burdening business with “e-verify” to inconvenience what is less that 4% of the population, fighting the abortion battle, get guns in churches, trying to prevent the electorate from voting for a black man for President (who, incidentally is already President) and letting the clients of billboard lobbyists scrape the landscape so we can better see the truck stop strip bar advertisements?

sunshine

March 12th, 2011
12:23 pm

Unbelievable. Do you think for a minute if there was one shred of evidence to refute the documentation presented by our now President when he was a candidate – a birth certificate certified by the “sovereign” state of Hawaii – that the outgoing administration that, by the way included the son of a former CIA chief, would not have intervened? Why don’t you just admit your bias?

James

March 12th, 2011
12:24 pm

Order YoursToday and Learn the Truth!
Where’s the Birth Certificate?: The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President [Hardcover]
Corsi Jerome (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Birth-Certificate-Eligible-President/dp/1936488299/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1299278740&sr=1-1
Dr. Jerome Corsi is regarded as one the country’s top authorities on the eligiblity of President Obama.

James

March 12th, 2011
12:25 pm

Order YoursToday and Learn the Truth!
Where’s the Birth Certificate?: The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President [Hardcover]
Corsi Jerome (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Birth-Certificate-Eligible-President/dp/1936488299/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1299278740&sr=1-1
Dr. Jerome Corsi is regarded as one the country’s top authorities on the eligiblity of President Obama.

Jim Pierce

March 12th, 2011
12:29 pm

To Sunshine: 2 questions:
1. Why won’t Obama simply ok the release of the official document
2. Why would you object to a bill requiring proof of citizenship?

Jobs - where are they

March 12th, 2011
12:36 pm

Jobs – where are they? GA was one of a few states to have an increase in unemployment recently. Where is the capitol of the South going? Is is moving to Charlotte? Of the 40 days in this session of the assembly, how many have been used and how many are going to be dedicated to jobs?

James

March 12th, 2011
12:36 pm

To Sunshine: 2 questions:
1. Why won’t Obama simply ok the release of the official document
2. Why would you object to a bill requiring proof of citizenship?

I can answer those questions:
1. There is no long-form BC to release. It doesn’t exist. What exists according Governor Abercrombie of Hawaii is a notation in a state archive where his birth was apparently reported to the State of Hawaii. It is believed that Obama was born in Kenya or perhaps Canada and the grandparents registered Obama’s birth in Hawaii even though he wasn’t born there. In 1961, this was very easy to do and they did it to give Obama US citizenship…for the benefits. This is what generated the birth announcements and why the birth announcements list the grandparent’s address.
2. Everyone knows Obama is ineligible and they fear passage of such a bill into law because of it.

Truth Squad

March 12th, 2011
12:38 pm

Let them and any state pass whatever kind of requirement that pleases their misguided souls. End the end, it will not matter, and that includes whether or not it targets President Obama.

I’ll make it easy for you: such bills are UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

States may regulate the “time, place, and manner” of the vote, that’s it. With all the lawyers in legislatures, one would think they’d know better. This isn’t even a gray area, the Constitution is clear.

Logic

March 12th, 2011
12:40 pm

Obama’s parents married in Hawaii when his mom was 3 months pregnant. No one disputes that. Since people want a fetus to be a person, he was living in Hawaii before he was born. Even if his American citizen mom actually did have a live birth off US soil, like John McCain’s mom did, he is still a citizen.

Some Other Mike

March 12th, 2011
12:41 pm

[snarky comment about ex post facto bigotry goes here]

Logic

March 12th, 2011
12:41 pm

Which of the founding fathers were born in the USA? Anyone have an answer?

say what?

March 12th, 2011
12:43 pm

Top authority on Obama???? That would be Obama. Just a intellectual knew he would make a killing from the goobers.
Guess we would be going down this road as well if McCain had won, because we know that he was not born in the US.

James

March 12th, 2011
12:51 pm

All the evidence that says Obama was born in Hawaii (Hawaiin Official Statements and the COLB) merely affirms the fact that Obama’s birth was REGISTERED with the state of Hawaii.

To date, there is not one shred of coorborating evidence that Obama was actually born in Hawaii:

No credible witnesses.

No Hospital.

No Doctor

No Midwife

No Nurse

No One!

No marker of any kind.

Even a lady who gave birth at nearly the same time as Obama’s mother at Kapoloni Hospital has no recollection of recalling Obama’s mother or the birth a black baby (Would have quite usual in 1961 Hawaii). In fact, the lady’s husband was even a doctor at the time and he too has no recollection of any birth of the sort.

I challenge anyone to provide me with a shred of coorborating evidence that Obama was actually born in Hawaii.

DannyX

March 12th, 2011
12:51 pm

James why should anyone respond to your questions? The evidence has been debated to death. The Birthers have lost, badly. Not one single Birther victory. In fact the opposite, the courts have taken extreme action against nuts like Orly Taiz.

The fact is this bill and all the other silly gimmicks don’t stand a chance in court. Just like the case you are still trying to present, this bill is a big dead end that actually hurts Republicans in the long run with independents.

Barnes was right! Republicans in this state are nuts.

Last Man Standing

March 12th, 2011
12:55 pm

To question Hussein’s legitimacy as the President is to be a racist. Any criticism of his actions or inactions makes you a racist. Questioning his motives, ditto. Only if you sing his praises and applaud every word coming from his teleprompter are you exempt from the racist label, unless you are white.

God forbid that, as a state, we try to enforce the federal law! The federal government under Hussein and in partnership with a foreign power (Mexico) will prevent Arizona from enforcing a federal law that it will not enforce.

rufus

March 12th, 2011
1:01 pm

If you are going to ignore facts and hide behind you red neck stupidity, why don’t you man up and just say so; to say that youre a patriot or a defender of the Constitution is a fabrication that any 3rd grader could smell out. For the first time in your life, live by your “convictions” and admit to all you’re the worse kind of bigot-one who is a coward.

Cheryl Richards

March 12th, 2011
1:04 pm

It would be more fruitful and productive if this representative would introduce a bill to secure more jobs, fix health care and insurance costs, reduce individual income taxes, help education, the teachers salary, overcrowded classrooms, crime, gangs, the war on drugs, foreign affairs, Georgia farmers, housing issues, the environment and people who who are having difficulty with their mortgages. Than to spend time and energy checking birth certificates. I just think there are more pressing issues than where a person is born. Did the voters in Waycross elect this representative to worry about a birth certificate or the issues that effect the needs of the Waycross community?

McCoy

March 12th, 2011
1:06 pm

That Hatfield is a real dumbarse.

James

March 12th, 2011
1:11 pm

The proposed GA HB401 is not unconstitutional. The constitution specifically gives the states the right to control the manner of their elections. Here is a new article written by eligibility and constitutional attorney Mario Apuzzo:

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/03/states-have-constitutional-power-to.html

Awkward

March 12th, 2011
1:12 pm

Rufus, you must be referring to Last Man Standing-he’s a big fat racist who’s always calling himself a patriot! BTW, what on earth is that thing on Hatfield’s chin?? Any ideas?

muggymug

March 12th, 2011
1:21 pm

How is it racist to demand for a president to show us his birth certificate. You can’t play recreation baseball without one. What are you folks so scared of? Hmmmmmmmmm.

Furious Styles

March 12th, 2011
1:25 pm

HA!
G.W. Bush & Cheney THOROUGHLY had the CIA and FBI check into Obama Long ago. Do you think that if there was any doubt to his citizenship that he wouldn’t have been exposed before any primary’s before his presidential run? The FBI did their homework on Obama, just like they did on MLK, there’s nothing left to see.

McCoy

March 12th, 2011
1:26 pm

What are you folks so scared of?

I think the more relevent question is, “What are YOU afraid of?” Are you skeered that Obama is an illegal alien who was set up before you were even born to come here and become president and make you his personal slave and… oh, never mind.

Baby Jesus

March 12th, 2011
1:31 pm

This makes me cry.

Last Man Standing

March 12th, 2011
1:32 pm

Awkward:

“racist who’s always calling himself a patriot!”

Show me where I have ever called myself a “patriot”? I have never done that and do hereby correctly call you a liar.

prsmith

March 12th, 2011
1:33 pm

Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Obama) is not a natural born citizen and is, therefore, a usurper. We’re in the midst of a constitutional crisis and the powers that be are preventing us from enforcing the law. This is a sad time for America and the Constitution.

McCoy

March 12th, 2011
1:35 pm

prsmith’s world has come to an end. Sad. He’s been usurped.

Last Man Standing

March 12th, 2011
1:39 pm

Awkward:

Let me use a few of Rufus’ words here. I want you to “man up and just say” that you lied.

I’m waiting . . .

McCoy

March 12th, 2011
1:40 pm

God forbid that, as a state, we try to enforce the federal law!

You do not enforce existing law by writing another law. You just enforce it and Obama is now and has always been qualified for the Office of the President under federal law. Hatfield and his cohorts are a laughing stock.

Keep doing this GOP

March 12th, 2011
1:41 pm

Funny, i tried to locate the nurses and doctor who delivered me when i was born in Cobb County. Guess what. They all died a long time ago and i was only born 3 years later than the President.

This state has better things to worry about. Maybe companies would locate here if the legislature would propose some smart legislation instead of worrying where people are born at. Of course , it would be hard to top last year. Holding hearings on people implanting devices in crevices on people and passing and sign into law the right of people to take home roadkill is going to be pretty hard to top.

Trusslady

March 12th, 2011
1:45 pm

I could make a fortune selling tin foil hats in this state.

Last Man Standing

March 12th, 2011
1:57 pm

Keep doing this GOP:

“Funny, i tried to locate the nurses and doctor who delivered me when i was born in Cobb County. Guess what. They all died a long time ago and i was only born 3 years later than the President.”

I can help you with that issue. Contact the state Bureau of Vital Records and for a small fee, they will send you a certified copy of your original birth certificate – complete with your doctor’s signature.

td

March 12th, 2011
2:06 pm

McCoy and others that do not think the state can set criteria for national elections please answer the following question:

Why is not the Green parties, Constitutional parties, Conservative parties, Libertarian parties and Communist parties delegates for president on some state ballots and not on others? Also, how can some state be set up as winner take all delegates to the electoral college and others send the delegates according to the winner of the congressional district?

Aquagirl

March 12th, 2011
2:09 pm

Go Birthers! Watching Hatfield dance like a drunken monkey for his wingnut crowd—too funny!

td

March 12th, 2011
2:09 pm

Also can someone show me the federal election law that states the Democrat and Republican candidates delegates must be on every states ballot? How about showing me where anyone has the “right” in the constitution to for a President or Vice President?

Truth Squad

March 12th, 2011
2:10 pm

There isn’t going to be a jobs bill folks. The Republicans are interested in jobs only to the extent that they can depress wages for those who have them.

Look for much gnashing of teeth and rendering of garments on election night 2012 as BHO wins another resounding victory. The guy has already had more “3 a.m. phone calls’ than any POTUS in modern memory and handled them relatively well. The R’s can offer another silver spoon guy who made money by killing jobs and who created a virtually identical health care bill (Romney); or a former fat cat lobbyist who can offer to do what he has done to Mississippi; or the union busting, bland, tax raising guy who can run things like Indiana; or well,Palin in which case BHO win 40+ states including Georgia, or yet another slick talking ex gov from Arkansas; or and Newt or Cain too if we’re being polite.

So keep writing those birther laws,keep refusing job creating infrastructure projects, keep ignoring that new highways and laxed regulation of underwater drilling are not paths to energy independence, busting unions, alienating teachers, cops/firefighters, working people, people of color, most young people, people who don’t want their SS or Medicare/Medicaid messed with, etc…

Not only will BHO not have to worry about providing “proof of citizenship” to people for which no amount of factual evidence will ever be enough, he’ll barely have to campaign and we’ll have years more to laugh at the internet tantrums of the deranged.

td

March 12th, 2011
2:16 pm

BTW: Georgia is not the only state with birth certificate requirement bills pending this year. According to Salon.com (not a conservative source) the other states are:

“The 10 other states with pending bills include: Arizona, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Connecticut, Indiana, Nebraska, Tennessee and Maine. The measure has failed this year in Montana.”