Your morning jolt: Girl Scouts ticked over cookie tax

Be prepared, lawmakers.

Over the weekend, an e-mail went out to Girl Scout leaders, warning them that HB 385, a bill to rewrite the state tax code, would subject their cookies to a sales tax – and would hit Boy Scout popcorn sales as well:

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Gov. Nathan Deal holds boxes of Girl Scout cookies as the young women kicked off their sales season last month. Johnny Crawford/Jcrawford@ajc.com

This significant financial impact would take money away from Girl Scout programs, camp support, financial aid and proceeds from the sale that support troop activities and community service projects…

…[P]lease contact your State House Representative and State Senator TODAY and express your concern in a courteous, Scout-like manner about our Scouts being taxed. Please reference House Bill 385. Sample letters have been provided on the left to make it easy to copy and paste into your own email. There are sample letters for girls as well as for parents and volunteers.

The message appears over the name of Marilyn W. Midyette, CEO of Girl Scouts of Greater Atlanta.

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Young ladies intending to button-hole their legislators over cookie sales might want to read this from Jim Walls at Atlanta Unfiltered:

Beginning today, lobbying takes on a whole new meaning in Georgia. In essence, anyone who’s seeking to influence legislation now must file papers as a lobbyist if they’re being paid while doing so.

That includes corporate executives or school teachers visiting the Capitol, or witnesses at legislative hearings. Patrick Millsaps, chairman of the State Campaign Finance Commission, warned: “I think we are coming dangerously close to putting up barriers to prevent people from petitioning their government.”

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Over the weekend, the Gainesville Times scrounged up the details of the penalty that U.S. Rep. Tom Graves, R-Ranger paid for his aggressive play in Washington:

Graves’ spokesman John Donnelly said the 9th District congressman was trying to beat Kansas Rep. Tim Huelskamp to the hoop at a Washington, D.C., gym that night. Graves jumped up, came down and hurt his left ankle.

Donnelly said an X-ray showed Graves suffered a broken ankle. More tests may be needed once the swelling in his foot recedes.

While he rests up, Graves will no doubt be listening to the radio. But according to this campaign fund-raising letter that hit late last week, he is very particular about which station gets his attention:

”I never listen to NPR. As I travel across Georgia, I tune in to hear Glenn Beck or Rush, Hannity or catch the news or just relax to good ole country music. NPR is too snooty for my taste.

“The politically correct drivel that passes for entertainment on NPR doesn’t appeal to me. Plus I’m probably like you and I believe that NPR is rightfully under fire from conservatives for firing Juan Williams for having the audacity to be conservative and appear on NPR’s most hated rival, Fox News.

“Whether NPR is on the air or not wouldn’t matter to me except for this cold hard truth: They’re funded with your tax dollars and mine….

“The NPR types like to project the image of being all lovey-dovey, but when it comes to negative campaigning, they’re cruel, relentless, personal and fueled by a self-righteous disdain for anything and anybody conservative.”

Sounds like somebody’s Saturday opera hour was interrupted one time too many by a guilt-inducing fund-drive plea. Read Graves’ entire anti-NPR letter here.

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This is education week at the state Capitol. Gov. Nathan Deal has a 10:30 a.m. presser today to discuss pre-K funding. And we’re told that state senators have been invited over to the Governor’s Mansion for hors d’oeurvres and a little talk about the HOPE scholarship – due to hit the Senate floor on Tuesday. But the event is not on the governor’s public calendar.

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The Tea Party Patriots has sent out this note about wavering Republicans in Wisconsin. But “fleebaggers”?

There are some rumors floating around that one or two or three of the GOP Senators may be going wobbly. This would be a huge, huge travesty after they’ve stood strong for so long. To give an inch would be to reward the fleebaggers for leaving town and the protesters that have repeatedly intimidated and acted aggressively (and even violently) toward those who support Walker.

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PolitiFact this morning examines whether HB 87, an illegal immigration bill that passed the House last week, is indeed modeled after the Arizona statute.

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67 comments Add your comment

Centrist

March 7th, 2011
9:54 am

NPR and PBS are leftist taxpayer subsidized outlets. Just because they have some non-partisan offerings is not reason enough for government subsidies.

Cutty

March 7th, 2011
9:55 am

And you silly republicans thought democrats were the party of tax and spend. Don’t hear much about spending cuts either. Taxing girl scout cookies is a low blow, even for a fiscal conservative.

Road Scholar

March 7th, 2011
9:58 am

It’s nice to see that Mr Graves has such an open mind and weighs all points of views in determining his! (sarc) And the conservative talk show hosts are soooo filled with manners and the ability to listen also!

Road Scholar

March 7th, 2011
9:59 am

Keep your hands off my thin mints! Don’t tread on me!

Lenny

March 7th, 2011
10:03 am

I know I shouldn’t but I’m laughing over the vision of militant girl scouts storming the state house in protest over the cookie tax. Now, if we could just get them as worked up over not being able to vote on Sunday alcohol sales.

Centrist

March 7th, 2011
10:04 am

@ Road Scholar – the conservative talk shows don’t get government subsidies. The very liberal ABC, CBS, NBC, CNBC, and CNN more than offset conservative media.

(I am a centrist – Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity would burn me at the stake for being an anti-interventionist, pro-choice, atheist.)

Sandra

March 7th, 2011
10:10 am

taxes will be every where. Like in England during the dark ages.

Rule .303

March 7th, 2011
10:11 am

The cooking shows on PBS are far superior to anything on Food Network. But since the shows are to-the-point and don’t involve any “celebrity” chefs, they’d never get picked up by the Food Network.

Nice to see Jim finally do a blog entry without invoking Gingrich.

jd

March 7th, 2011
10:11 am

Hope those Girl Scouts are registered to lobby! Those fines are actually more expensive than their cookies!

URwhatiswrong

March 7th, 2011
10:18 am

Today’s scouts are a scam. Child labor laws should be enforced. Take your kid to a scout introductory meeting and find out how they can “earn” a Justin Bieber key chain for selling thousands of dollars worth of product. Great training for a zero commission sales career at Walmart. Why do they need all the money to have a scout meeting in living room? Just get to the knot tying, bird house building and charitable community work already.

John K

March 7th, 2011
10:22 am

Tax on Girl Scout cookies? So how’s that Takey Oury Country Backy Thingy working out for ya? *wink*

GaBlue

March 7th, 2011
10:23 am

Yes, TAX the cookies!!! Under the guise of promoting self-esteem for girls, this organization has recruited not only girls, but their entire families into the corporate-capitalistic endeavor of pushing heavily-marketed must-have “food” items on the American public using guilt, cute children, and false pretenses. Are these girls making the cookies? No, they’re moving a mass-produced product, slam full of ingredients that ensure its consumers will continue their monthly trek to the local pharmacy for “maintenance” drugs for their high cholesterol and blood pressure, diabetes, and digestive ailments, as well as a plethora of weight-loss aids.

The irony of this cookie imperative is that these girls are growing up in a society that will value their physical appearance first, with svelte, bony, size-2 frames bringing the highest rank on the “what to look like” scale. Yet, instead of promoting competence and self-esteem by teaching healthy lifestyles, sports, strength, etc., they deliver truck loads of cookies to each girl’s house where tens of thousands of calories will certainly be consumed by the girls and their parents, who are perhaps the least in need of the additional calories, the consumption of which is likely to play a role in the delicining intimacy levels (hence the strength) of the marriage.

The “values” promoted by the cookie imperative are purely capitalistic, and that’s fine. Teach capitalism to young Americans, but let’s not pretend it’s about charity. TAX THEM like all business are (allegedly) taxed. Otherwise, you’re not teaching them the lesson. (No, I would not like a box of Samoas, thanks anyway.)

Road Scholar

March 7th, 2011
10:25 am

Centrist: I am not contesting the right of talk radio or any news shows to air their programming or how they pay for it. I was reflecting on their method of talking over people, their abrasive tone, and the lack of letting people explain their positions, otherwise known as manners. One asks for input, and then berates the caller before they can get a complete thought or sentence out!

Last Man Standing

March 7th, 2011
10:25 am

“The NPR types like to project the image of being all lovey-dovey, but when it comes to negative campaigning, they’re cruel, relentless, personal and fueled by a self-righteous disdain for anything and anybody conservative.”

That just about nails it down, but don’t take my word for it. Ask someone who I very rarely agreed with – Juan Williams. He can give you the low-down on NPR!

Michael

March 7th, 2011
10:41 am

The government says it doesn’t tax us enough. People selling their cars to neighbors are somehow competing unfairly against dealerships. Can’t have a yard sale without giving the government its cut. Taxman at the bake sale. Wonder if Aetna will pay the extra tax on the medical services the doctor provided.

The irony is, in this Tea Party era that has been named for a bunch of patriots who threw the tea into the Boston Harbor to protest the Tea Tax, we are suddenly being bombarded with calls for new taxes on everything. Maybe we don’t need all these parks, roads and police after all. Cut spending.

fulldawg

March 7th, 2011
10:47 am

Mr. Graves is “fair and balanced” I see. wonder how his grudge against the Antique Roadshow works out?

Bobby

March 7th, 2011
10:48 am

Has the Georgia GOP met a tax increase proposal in Georgia it doesn’t like? Looks like the party of tax and spend title can be shared by Georgia Republicans at least as much as National Democrats.

freidenker

March 7th, 2011
10:49 am

Graves is another GA republican who ‘thinks’ with his bible, no need for further comment. big question is “what do luquire and his xtian coallition think about the girl scouts?” that’s where the decision will be made. good thing they don’t have devil’s food cookies.

Centrist

March 7th, 2011
10:49 am

@ Road Scholar – I am contesting how shows are paid if my tax dollars are involved.

I agree that most news shows have an agenda, but it cuts both ways. PBS, CNN, CNBC, NPR and broadcast networks are always tilted left – just like most talk radio is tilted right. Most play to their free market supporting constituencies. Again, the leftist NPR and PBS entities are government (taxpayer) subsidized and largely not answerable to free market support.

Ric

March 7th, 2011
11:05 am

Tom Graves is starting to sound like John Barrow, judging by the tone of that fundraising letter.
Phrases like “good ole country music” and “snooty.”

Aquagirl

March 7th, 2011
11:12 am

Centrist, if you think radio is a free market, try to start up a radio station without an FCC license . It’s about as free market as the NFL.

ml

March 7th, 2011
11:15 am

it seems a little petty but hey, fair is fair. true equality comes without perks. many people don’t know that. women and blacks to name just a few, unpopular statement but the ones heaviest in truth usually are. but tax them like anyone else, then let’s get those freeloading churches to pay up too. you say it teaches the kids some beginning business skills, helps them prepare for the future to sell those cookies, well, taxes are part of that teaching reality.

Do What?

March 7th, 2011
11:24 am

Enter your comments here

TrishaDishaWarEagle

March 7th, 2011
11:24 am

FLEEBAGGERS..I love it!!! All those dems fleebagging each other in Ilinois..

findog

March 7th, 2011
11:27 am

I am sorry Girl Scouts, but you are not exempt from laws and taxes. Want a free ride? Join a church group. If we don’t tax all sales we will not be able to zero out corporate taxes; get with the program or get lost!

Centrist @ 10:04
They get a subsidy in being on the public air waves where the US Government makes sure that they have a clear channel and no one can jam their signal.

GaBlue @ 10:23
Where you been, a size two if a real porker

Mystic55

March 7th, 2011
11:30 am

Well, progressives don’t regard CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS are ‘liberal’…but then again most conservatives…including so called ‘centrists’ like Centrist regard anything to the Left of Fox News as ‘Liberal.’

You know…for reporting facts?

In the meantime, did you know that conservative radio has recently been caught red handed paying actors to call in to their shows?

Do you think Conservatives, Libertarians and other facts-lacking paradigms care?

Nope.

They only care about what the American Heritage Foundation or Cato institute tell them to think.

Do What?

March 7th, 2011
11:31 am

Why does the proposed bill name by name the 4H, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts and parent teacher organizations yet leave out the real money they could raise by taxing churches and others who have sales to raise money?

Base

March 7th, 2011
11:35 am

Sales tax for everything,thus is what tax reform from the legislature will get you!

Corey

March 7th, 2011
11:38 am

Obscene! New Birth Cult Club took in over 19 million dollars last year with 1.1 million of that set aside for Eddie The Smell of Your Cologne Long’s salary. Less than a stone’s throw away blight, crime and dire poverty abound. Can you say brain washed sheep!

Centrist

March 7th, 2011
11:42 am

Mystic55 – trying to label me conservative would not sit well with Limbaugh, Beck, or Hannity since I am an anti-interventionist, pro-choice, atheist. But then I am neither a leftist who likes the term “progressive” like you who sees anyone right of himself as a conservative.

You Asked

March 7th, 2011
11:49 am

“I think we are coming dangerously close to putting up barriers to prevent people from petitioning their government.”

We are past that point and heading further down that path.

Mystic55

March 7th, 2011
11:57 am

Limbaugh, Beck and Hannity don’t like Libertarians either, but despite their desire to the contrary, most Eastern Libertarians are Conservatives as well. Look at the number of Tea Party Republicans who are supposedly libertarian who also take Socially conservative instead of just Fiscally conservative positions. There are some Libertarians who are what they say they are, but most aren’t.

And the fact that you label CNN, that hires Tea Party members, and BREITBART as ‘liberal’ indicates you’re a conservative.

Conservative these days means which of the two narratives you believe.

Is Global warming anthrogenic or not? If you think it is, you’re liberal. Maybe moderate, but if you DON’T believe in it you’re definitely a conservative.

If you regard FOX news as a legitimate news source, you’re DEFINITELY a conservative.

El Kabong

March 7th, 2011
12:02 pm

I am not surprised at all that Mr Graves would prefer the right wing Rep apologists over news for adults on NPR. Thrills me that he is my rep. Best thing I ever did was turn off Boortz and his ilk. And Hannity has always been unlistenable even in my GOP infatuation stage.

GaBlue

March 7th, 2011
12:10 pm

Mystic55, you wrote:

“And the fact that you label CNN, that hires Tea Party members, and BREITBART as ‘liberal’ indicates you’re a conservative.”

I disagree that the labeling scheme you cite indicates somebody is “conservative.” I think it indicates that he or she is “delusional.”

The “conservative” label has been hi-jacked by whacktoids. These are not my Grandfather’s “conservatives.” He would be appalled.

HL

March 7th, 2011
12:15 pm

What a shame. Last year the State started taxing hospital stays, as if health costs aren’t high enough already and now girl scout cookies. Can’t wait until they raise the gas tax and blame the increase of unrest in the Middle East.

Mystic55

March 7th, 2011
12:28 pm

GaBlue,

You are correct, but at this point Conservatives that actually believe actual fact and scientific consensus are so rare that I might as well not make the ’some conservatives’ or even ‘most conservatives’ because at this point it is 90% of all conservatives.

Centrist

March 7th, 2011
12:33 pm

The TEA Party is certainly not liberal/progressive – it stands for Taxed Enough Already since taxes are now at their greatest percentage of GNP with liberal progressives wanting more.

CNN was started by Ted Turner – an avowed liberal who made that network follow his leftist politics. Nothing has changed since he left, and that is why FOX rose up and now consistently creams CNN in viewers. Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck were once on CNN, but were drummed out for not spouting the party line.

Lum

March 7th, 2011
12:36 pm

I thought Republicans were by and large against new taxes? Why do I kleep hearing about tax INCREASES??? Is it required to be a congenital liar to be a politician?

the original and still the best John Galt

March 7th, 2011
12:40 pm

Making a mountain out of a molehill, or seeking free publicity. Take your pick.

Sales of Girl Scout cookies, tickets to the church bake sale, etc. are already taxable under the law. The non-profit status of the institution doing the sale has no bearing on taxability of the sale under the Sales Tax laws. Churches are not exempt from Georgia Sales Tax, as they are from certain other taxes. Neither are the Girl Scouts.

When I worked as a tax collector I levied against several non-profits that refused to file and pay Sales Tax.

GaBlue

March 7th, 2011
12:56 pm

Mystic55: Good point.

Centrist:
Bull. Glenn Beck went to Fox “News” because he got more money and a big green light and a better market share for his bat-sheet rants, which increases his take in ad revenue from the gold pushers. (Be afraid! Buy nuggets!) Furthermore, like just about every headline scrawling across the bottom of the Fox “news” channel, your moniker is intentionally misleading.

flintrock70

March 7th, 2011
1:05 pm

Do you think Graves has actually watched Lawmakers or Newshour on PBS? I love them b/c they very fairly show both sides of the issue with smart involved people. I sometimes loathe them that they are so actually balanced ;-)

Centrist

March 7th, 2011
1:08 pm

A centrist just observes the outlandishness of both extremes. Mystic 55 and most posters here are on the left and are easy targets. But I have also pointed out the fewer right wing dictum’s stated here, too – I am not a Beck fan.

I heered he was an Ayrab

March 7th, 2011
1:15 pm

there will be a sales tax on postage stamps pretty soon. there will also be a sales tax on the sales tax.

but next election the same people will tell you they actually cut your taxes by increasing them. and they will get voted back into office.

You get the government you deserve. Awa wi’ ye, as my grandma will say in her Inverness accent!

flintrock70

March 7th, 2011
1:28 pm

I hope you know that a “centrist” actually has views. He’s not a jurist who cannot make decisions beforehand. And by the way, NPR/PBS are not influenced by the state and when the other news outlets are being twisted and churned for corporate ownwership financial gain, at least there is a station that is free from the greed. You may think that they are terrible because you think (wrongly, might I add) that they lean left, but I know that they are great because they don’t answer to the almighty dollar like apparently you Centrist and your Faux News & Friends would like us all to do.
It’s a sad state of affairs when the only free-news left is funded by the tax dollars since the rest of corporate America has strangled real news and their reports.

Interested observer

March 7th, 2011
1:41 pm

Just what is “snooty” about classical music and “Car Talk?”

findog

March 7th, 2011
2:04 pm

Centrist @ 12:33
Check the strength of that medical marijuana your smoking
Taxes are at the lowest level since Eisenhower
President Obama has cut taxes
President Reagan raised taxes six out of eight years and holds that all time record for increases
But before you go could you give me the number of your dealer?

cj

March 7th, 2011
2:46 pm

So, if I take a personal day from my job teaching to go to the State Capitol to attend a hearing on education matters, I have to register as a lobbyist? Really??? It’s not as if our esteemed state legislators make it easy since most hearings related to education matters occur during school hours already, but they’ve just added another layer.

Crazy.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying . . .

March 7th, 2011
3:58 pm

hmmmmmm, . . . and so does the Governor have to register as a lobbyist since he’s getting paid and is meeting with members of the Senate to discuss HOPE while feeding them hors d’oeuvres?????

Centrist

March 7th, 2011
4:05 pm

findog – even you don’t believe your last laughable post.

THe

March 7th, 2011
4:40 pm

Maybe the girl scouts can offer a ‘Tax merit badge’ for learning how to calculate sales tax.