A Republican’s question about Sunday sales and a liquor dealer

Last year, Liz Carter was the Republican challenger to U.S. Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Decatur.

Since then, she’s landed a local radio gig and launched her own blog, Politico Portico. Carter’s blog topic for today is her disappointment specific members of the Senate GOP caucus when it comes to the sale of package alcohol on Sunday.

She writes this about state Sen. David Shafer, R-Duluth, a long-time opponent of Sunday sales:

This morning, February 24th, I spoke to Senator David Shafer on, and off, the record. Needless to say I was disappointed to hear that yes, four years ago his committee gave a “do pass” to the bill, but he no longer supports the bill because the errors he corrected four years ago are back. Here is his official statement:

“Senate Bill 10 is flawed in its current form. Local communities should determine the hours of alcohol sales, but the bill would mandate alcohol sales until 11:30 p.m. on Sundays. Many communities end alcohol sales earlier than 11:30 p.m. during the week. It does not make sense to have longer hours on Sunday than any other day of the week or to remove local option for that day only.

If we expand weekend alcohol sales, we should couple it with tougher penalties on the sale of alcohol to the underaged.

I have constituents and supporters on both sides of Sunday sales issue. I have members of my own family on both sides of this issue.”

When asked about his relationship with the Georgia Alcohol Dealers who oppose the bill and specifically Richard Tucker, who is the owner of a beverage superstore, Senator Shafer stated that Mr. Tucker is no longer a constituent and he moved outside of his district. That did not answer my question of speculation and rumors of the driving force behind his opposition being Richard Tucker and the Georgia Alcohol Dealers.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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59 comments Add your comment

bernie Tobias

February 24th, 2011
4:18 pm

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ladyliberty

February 24th, 2011
4:27 pm

Those are not good reasons to give it a caucus veto in private. let it come to a vote. amend it..
or let the retailers decide. heck where I live grocery stores close at 10 anyway so they won’t be selling ’til 11:30. I wish they were open for ANYTHING late at night.

LizCarter

February 24th, 2011
4:41 pm

Jim, Thank you for picking up the story. My remarks to Senator Shafer and comments on Senator Hill and Governor Deal can be found in the full story “When Repubicans Go Wrong” – http://lisbethcarter.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/when-republicans-go-wrong/

Thomas

February 24th, 2011
4:57 pm

The electorate is growing weary of non-decisive politics …we argue over trivial things in a bill while 47 other states in our country have surpassed us. Every border state surrounding Georgia sells packaged alcohol on Sundays but our “Genius Republican Caucus” cannot allow a vote to be taken in public. What a shame and embarrassment.

JP

February 24th, 2011
4:58 pm

Enter your comments here

JP

February 24th, 2011
4:58 pm

All of them are on the take….

By the beach

February 24th, 2011
5:01 pm

The thing is though that the bill doesn’t mandate sales until 11:30pm, it says that’s the latest a community could allow. The bill doesn’t mandate anything for communities. It simply gives them the right to hold a referendum. It wouldn’t supersede dry counties. Shafer needs to read the legislation and stop letting his cronies tell him what’s wrong with it.

Douglas

February 24th, 2011
5:05 pm

By the Beach, I’ll bet you good money that he knows that; but by spinning it he covers himself — most folks won’t go to the trouble of fact-checking this and will just accept it. So sad for our state, not just on this but on so many other issues.

freidenker

February 24th, 2011
5:08 pm

i have lived in both Tennessee and california and thus have experienced legislation on both ends of the spectrum. georgia is not even ON the spectrum. what a sad, pathetic gathering of spineless individuals. i had hopes things would get better when the chubby, fishing rube left town but i fear things are even worse. sighhhhhhhhhhhh.

DJ Sniper

February 24th, 2011
5:17 pm

I haven’t seen one iota of press regarding the rally at the Capitol yesterday in support of Sunday sales. Does anybody know what, if anything happened?

E-Roll

February 24th, 2011
5:27 pm

I have been looking for the same thing DJ Sniper but I can’t find anything.

I am proud that voters of this state will not let our Senate off the hook on this matter. They can hide in a secret caucus and vote but we will be heard on this.

Brenda

February 24th, 2011
5:35 pm

This is a Dec. 2007 article from the Atlanta Business Chronicle on the relationship of Richard Tucker with Sen. David Shafer and Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle. We are very confident that Tucker still has the ears of both men and yes we verified that Tucker still owns the “Beverage SuperStore” in Suwanee. Keep the pressure on, the cork on Sunday Sales will eventually come off.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2007/12/17/story8.html

E-Roll

February 24th, 2011
5:40 pm

DJ Sniper,

I just found something from Fox 5 concerning the rally:

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/local_news/Group-to-Urge-Sunday-Alcohol-Sales

GaBlue

February 24th, 2011
5:46 pm

I read somewhere last night that “about 40″ people showed up. It’s not that people aren’t angry; it’s just that we know nobody in the Capitol building gives a rat’s fuzzy if we stand outside with signs. I think, rather, they’d take it as affirmation that their oppression of common rabble is going well. The people of Georgia are not smart enough to make our own decisions, so the “small gubmint” crowd is going to do it for us, in the holy name of their donors, I mean Jesus, Amen.

Brenda

February 24th, 2011
6:04 pm

The comments coming from some of the senators under the Gold Bubble are insulting the intelligence of “We the People”. In fact, not much of what they are saying is giving me any confidence that they can competently handle the other issues before them. All in all, it’s a sad commentary on us that we keep re-electing them.

Thomas

February 24th, 2011
6:15 pm

The working class cannot join a rally cry for Sunday sales of packaged alcohol at the Capitol in the middle of the work week. WE have to pay the wage of the “Republican Senate Behind Closed Doors Caucus” to meet and decide which issues will have a majority vote before coming to the Senate floor for a vote!

DJ Sniper

February 24th, 2011
6:20 pm

I just read the entire blog post from Liz Carter on this issue. I am truly appalled at Judson Hill. This guy made it very clear that he is in the pocket of the Christian Conservatives on this issue. I wouldn’t even be upset at the religious right if this issue was actually up for a vote and they were trying to convince everyday citizens not to vote for it, but for them to use their influence to get our lawmakers to deny us that voting right is what really pisses me off.

td

February 24th, 2011
6:21 pm

You Libs make me laugh out loud with your let us vote slogan because we all know that you do not stand for let us vote on most issues. Matter of fact you really prefer “let the court make the law”.

If you really want us to vote on everything then let us vote on outlawing abortion in this state. Let us vote on bringing back the old Georgia flag. Let us vote on kicking out all the illegal aliens. How do you think those votes would turn out? If we are going to vote for one then we should vote for all.

The Centrist

February 24th, 2011
6:31 pm

So, as a result of this debate, how many jobs will be generated?

Not Understanding

February 24th, 2011
6:35 pm

What am I missing here? Why would the Georgia Alcohol Dealers oppose the bill? I would think they would be in favor of sales on Sunday.

Brenda

February 24th, 2011
6:45 pm

Not Understanding, check out this article, which does a good job of explaining why the liquor lobby is against Sunday Sales. Keep in mind that the article was written in Dec. 2007 but the issues and the players are the same in 2011.

Liquor stores: No Sunday sales http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2007/12/17/story8.html

Flag Lover

February 24th, 2011
6:50 pm

@td, not that this is the place to fight over the flag again, but let me tell you my take. I am just over 50 years old, and the only flag I ever knew as kid was the one based on the confederate battle flag. So when they first started the debate about changing the flag, I thought it was the stupidest idea ever. Change the flag strictly to make a political statement? How absurd! This was the Georgia flag. It had always been the Georgia flag, why change it now? What I didn’t know was that the flad I had known all my life wasn’t always the Georgia flag. Changing the flag for to make a political statement was exactly what happened back in 1955/56, when they changed the flag simply to protest the forced integration of schools. Until I learned that, I was against changing the flag. After learning that, I thought they should go back to the previous flag, prior to the change in ‘56. Now the attempt to satisfy everyone with the blue background and the little flags across the bottom was the worst ever. I didn’t understand paying any one to design a new flag. I just thought they should go back to the one prior to the original change for political reasons. Just my take …

Last Man Standing

February 24th, 2011
6:50 pm

td:

You just don’t get it, do you? The libs want what they want when they want it. It (whatever “it” is) is their RIGHT and they will not be denied. Of course they don’t want a vote on the other issues you raised because that is also their RIGHT.

Good post, td!

mark

February 24th, 2011
6:53 pm

If i cant’t buy a drink on sunday, i won’t be able to drown my tears that i will cry for the trees. the trees that will be cut down so i can read the liquor store billboard even on sunday.
Maybe all bar and liquor stores billboards should have to read a bible versus each sunday.

Now Understanding

February 24th, 2011
6:55 pm

Thanks Brenda, that helps a lot!

The Centrist

February 24th, 2011
6:56 pm

td. If we could vote on outlawing abortion, would it include a budget amount to cover the healthcare cost associated supporting the pre-natal, birth, and rearing children whose parents who either cannot or will not pay? Telling folks that they are suppose to be responsible for their own actions is not up for debate when the child is conceived. Georgia voters don’t want the original Georgia Flag, and your friends in South and North Georgia may say they want to get rid of illegal immigrants,but they love paying them substandard wages while having them work in harsh work environments. So, how many jobs will these three issues generate?

The Centrist

February 24th, 2011
6:58 pm

Liberals are worried about Sunday liquor sales, it’s Conservatives. Based on the last election, there are not enough Liberals in Georgia to even get bill introduced on anything.

CobbGOPer

February 24th, 2011
7:00 pm

Soooo. The Senate feels the voters are smart enough to be allowed to vote on whether the state should cap spending levels for the budget (http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2011/02/24/a-republicans-question-about-sunday-sales-and-a-liquor-dealer/?cxntfid=blogs_political_insider_jim_galloway).

But we absolutely cannot be allowed to decide for ourselves whether we should be able to purchase a perfectly legal product on Sundays…

I really am just, I don’t even have the words to explain how confused and angry this makes me.

The Centrist

February 24th, 2011
7:00 pm

Have you ever noticed that there are more Strip Joints per capita in conservative rural areas than in urban communities?

CobbGOPer

February 24th, 2011
7:00 pm

Maynard Brown

February 24th, 2011
7:05 pm

Senator Schaffer’s favorite female lobbyist from GMA most likely had a hand in his blocking the Sunday liquor sales vote.

Mike

February 24th, 2011
7:05 pm

Any Republican who runs in GA US House District 4, a district drawn as one of the most Democratic districts in the Country, a district that Obama carried by a bigger margin than McCain’s best House district anywhere, a district ranked the 35th most Democratic in the Nation (meaning the US House would have to have 501 Republicans to 34 Democrats before it fell), I immediately discount as a nut and/or a moron.

Courtney Fuhrman

February 24th, 2011
7:07 pm

If I knew NAHAN DEAL was going to kill HOPE, I would have voted for the other joker….

Mike

February 24th, 2011
7:10 pm

I included Senate in my previous post. It would be 401 Republicans to 34 Democrats, before Hank Johnson’s seat fell.

bart

February 24th, 2011
7:35 pm

We have a senate full of weenies.

the watch dog

February 24th, 2011
7:40 pm

Will the Sunday sales start in the morning, that is a particularly difficult time for those in need? Sunday morning is a dreaded time for the certain segment of the community. Not being a drinker myself, after years of dedicated enebriation, I feel a certain empathy for the people in need, real need on Sunday morning. Actually it would be a good time for the church to offer the sanctuary for repentance. Well, enough of that, I am beginning to get the feeling that there is a little “hard ball” politics about Sunday sales of “demon rum”.

dorothy stapen

February 24th, 2011
7:45 pm

I would be interested to know more about Senator Schaffer’s alleged dalliances. I attend his church where he is assumed to be a faithful God-fearing Christian. If not, a lot of his supporters will be sorely disappointed. And there will be repercussions.

Last Man Standing

February 24th, 2011
7:51 pm

Courtney Fuhrman:

It ain’t Deal killing the HOPE program. Do the math: the money ain’t there from HOPE to fund everything under the sun from Pre-K to kids who never should have been in college anyway.

dorothy stapen

February 24th, 2011
7:51 pm

Excuse my mis-spelling of Senator David Schafer’s name in my earlier post. I just want to know the truth about this apparent scoundrel.

local control and free markets my @55

February 24th, 2011
7:53 pm

I cant believe these senate chickensh*ts are leaving a few million on the table in sales tax revenue to appease a handful of old-fart bible thumpers….

Someone else

February 24th, 2011
8:04 pm

People saying this is a Liberal issue fail to recognize that a vast majority of people in this state, both liberal and conservative, want to repeal the sunday sale ban. The majority of the voting base in this state is Republican, and its laughable to blame the liberals for anything involved in this issue. The government and the christian coalitions don’t want this issue to go to a popular vote because they know it’ll pass with an overwhelming majority.

If SB10 goes up for vote, I can guarantee that it’ll pass with an 80% majority.

td

February 24th, 2011
8:04 pm

local control and free markets my @55

February 24th, 2011
7:53 pm
I cant believe these senate chickensh*ts are leaving a few million on the table in sales tax revenue

Please do not come on here and show your lack of intelligence. With the big dealers not wanting to sale on Sunday proves that there is no more money to be made by opening one more day per week. Your anger just proves that you are not organized (or should we say smart) enough to buy yours ahead of time.

td

February 24th, 2011
8:06 pm

Someone else

February 24th, 2011
8:04 pm

You forgot to mention the liquor store industry does not want it to pass either. Also, I would bet you any amount of money that the issue would not pass by a 80% majority. Want to take that bet?

DagnyT

February 24th, 2011
8:28 pm

I am in Judson Hill’s district and I am profoundly disappointed in his open opposition to SB 10. I am a Baptist, but I am also a freedom loving American and I fail to see how limiting a legal product to six days a week is part of smaller government. I am also a mom who does her shopping on Sunday afternoons and it is inconvenient for me and unfair to the grocery stores to limit their ability to conduct legal business. Sen. Hill, I hope you are paying attention. Your continued opposition to local control will not be forgotten when you come around asking for votes and money next time.

Dave

February 24th, 2011
8:44 pm

td -

I haven’t read all of the comments so I may be repeating what someone else has said. That said, your idea of voting on “all” issues is good for stuff like liquor and the old flag; but, there’s a pesky U.S. Constitution that gets in the way of your abortion and immigration ideas, at least for now.

double

February 24th, 2011
8:58 pm

Lottery tickets(gambling) Sunday Alcohol sales.You liberals will never get back in power.

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Tired of BS

February 24th, 2011
9:48 pm

Shafer just proved why he is referred to as “Sneaky Snake”.

bart

February 24th, 2011
9:56 pm

The senate is a bunch of weenies!