Your morning jolt: Rare agreement on the flaws of an illegal immigration bill

D.A. King, the illegal immigration activist, and representatives of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Official get along like a house on fire.

If that house is also filled with kegs of gunpowder and roofing nails.

State officials have been known to insist that King and Jerry Gonzales, GALEO’s executive director, sit on opposite sides of the room at hearings.

So when the two sides agree on anything to do with immigration, we must pay attention. This morning’s topic is SB 40, state Sen. Jack Murphy’s attempt to require all businesses in Georgia to use the federal computer registry called E-Verify – or something like it – to make sure their hires are legal U.S. residents.

The bill includes this exemption, presumably intended for farmers:

This Code section shall not apply to any person or entity who has filed an H-1 or H-2 application, or similar type of application, with the United States Department of Labor.

Last week, King labeled the loophole “preposterous.”

“On illegal employment, the bill’s author has excluded so many industries from the badly needed required statewide use of the no-cost federal E-Verify system so as to make it a parody of an employment enforcement bill,” King said, promising to see the bill changed or killed.

King is not an immigration lawyer. But Charles Kuck, who calls himself the “token Republican” on GALEO’s board of directors, does have a shingle.

More than that, Kuck is also the past president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association. And Kuck says King is right.

On Friday, during a break in a hearing on state Rep. Matt Ramsey’s immigration bill, Kuck noted several flaws in the exception carved out by SB 47. Chief among them is the fact that it is the U.S. Department of Homeland Security that handles work visas – not the Department of Labor.

Kuck continued:

“There’s no such thing as an H-1 or H-2 petition….. Let’s presume [Murphy is] speaking of H1Bs, which are used by the AJC to hire foreign reporters, or Georgia Pacific to hire an engineer or, really, any company, and the H2As, which are [for] temporary agricultural workers, and H2Bs, which are [for] temporary, ‘other’ workers.

“Say I’ve got a landscape company, I just got a contract with the state to take care of the highways. I need 500 guys. I do an H2B, I bring in 500 workers. Those people – those employer who doesn’t use any of those – don’t have to enroll in E-Verify. That’s every employer in Georgia, potentially….

By his reading of the exception, Kuck said an employer would only have to file a visa application for one employee – no matter how many other employees were at the firm.

“It makes it moot. The language is useless,” Kuck said. The lawyer has a blog on immigration law that you might want to bookmark for the session.

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Judging by the video preview he’s posted on his Facebook page, Randy Travis of Fox5 News is about to tackle the topic of illegal immigrants working on public works projects.

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Stephanie Ramage, formerly of the Sunday Paper, is reporting on her new blog that the lead Atlanta Police Department investigator in the raid on the Atlanta Eagle bar was arrested in Cobb County over the weekend on charges of DUI, possession of marijuana and speeding while driving an undercover police vehicle:

According to Cobb County Sheriff’s Office booking reports, Bennie Evett Bridges, 41, was stopped Thursday a little before 3 a.m. for speeding in excess of 100 miles per hour and Cobb Police officers subsequently charged him with possession of less than an ounce of marijuana as well as driving under the influence of alcohol…He was released on bond that same day.

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Word this morning is that U.S. Rep. John Lewis, D-Atlanta, and congressional aide Andrew Aydin are collaborating on a graphic novel documenting Lewis’ role in the Civil Rights movement.

The press release includes this line:

The publishing agreement is an historic first, both for the U.S. Congress and graphic novel publishing as a whole, marking the first time a sitting Member of Congress has authored a graphic novel. Top Shelf Productions is the first and only graphic novel publisher to be certified by the House Committee on Standards.

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You’re a former politician – or at least one who’s temporarily sidelined – and you want to clean out your attic. Who do you call? UGA.

From the Athens Banner-Herald:

Five elected officials have donated collections of their papers to the Richard B. Russell Library for Political Research and Studies at the University of Georgia.

All five have left office: former state Labor Commissioner Michael Thurmond of Athens and former state Agriculture Commissioner Tommy Irvin, former Congressmen John Linder and Jim Marshall, and former Athens-Clarke Mayor Heidi Davison.

The Russell Library houses materials from more than 300 politicians, political parties, public policy organizations, federal and state appointees, and political observers and activists from the 20th and 21st centuries.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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36 comments Add your comment

Tom

February 7th, 2011
10:13 am

Were some of Tommy Irvin’s collection on papyrus?

sjbytes

February 7th, 2011
10:15 am

The long history of hate and intolerance in Georgia, and for that matter the south, has now been transferred from blacks to latinos. The shame in all of this is how blacks have joined the ranks of the racists with their hate towards latinos. Whatever happened to “judge not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character”? Everyone knows that illegal immigrants are taking all the good jobs. They come to this country and take all the accounting jobs, all the medical field jobs and all the high paying manufacturing jobs.

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Tom

February 7th, 2011
10:32 am

sj, being “latino” isn’t an issue…..some of my best friends are latino, as are some of my neighbors. The difference is that my latin friends and neighbors are US citizens or here legally on visas. The citizens have valid Social Security numbers and are having payroll taxes and FICA deducted from their wages.

If it were Canadiens that were illegally breeching our border to flood our agricultural and construction industries with cheap, illegal labor then those wanting to address the issue would be accused of hating Canucks?

Fortunately, the only thing Canadiens are crossing the border for is timely, quality healthcare.

Not Blind

February 7th, 2011
10:41 am

We do not have any intractable problems with people that come to this country LEGALLY. The problem is the people that come here illegally or those that overstay their visa. It’s amazing that there is even any discussion about the need to find these people and send them back to their country.

Just Nasty & Mean

February 7th, 2011
10:49 am

Georgia’s legislative leaders haven’t gotten the message~~yet. THEY ALL are on probation!
They are not doing what we sent them there to do.
They had better get the frequeing word….CLEAN UP THIS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION MESS NOW!!
Enforce E-Verify to ALL businesses…NOW!

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Jeff

February 7th, 2011
11:22 am

I’ve asked this question repeatedly, without any response:

Will someone PLEASE tell me how to know any given person is “illegal”?

poof!!!

February 7th, 2011
11:38 am

sjbytes you do not make any sense.

Inman Park

February 7th, 2011
11:58 am

I have a lot of respect for John Lewis, but a comic book characterization? Please.

Lum

February 7th, 2011
11:59 am

Hey Jeff, just ask him/her. What about you? Are you legal?

Pancho Ramirez

February 7th, 2011
12:11 pm

Tom is to be congratulated for having Latino friends. I bet he even has some Gypsy Kings CDs. Muy bueno! Also? Very funny mocking our northern neighbors with the spelling “Canadiens.”

Jeff

February 7th, 2011
12:18 pm

Lum:

So if your solution is “just ask him/her”, what about government officials who must have probable cause to ask any citizen any question?

eatmotacos

February 7th, 2011
12:25 pm

@sjbytes”

“They come to this country and take all the accounting jobs, all the medical field jobs and all the high paying manufacturing jobs.”

We have all of the above in Dalton. Once the non-English speaking illegals colonize a community, the language barrier mandates Spanish speakers in every profession, and the opportunists swarm in from all over the country, displacing locals from higher tier professions, including doctors and attorneys. It is a total division of the community – the divide and conquer strategy.

The Hispanic academics were so impressed with the colonization of Dalton, that they put together a how to guide, for taking over other US communities. Enjoy.

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:eVyBE_R_vFkJ:beacon.salisbury.edu/Bienvenidos/Dalton%2520Project–BV%2520MtgMarch%252006.ppt+salisbury+edu+dalton+georgia+project&hl=en&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgH_ZpHEDm-jzPPJB_VUiBEqK_CPQuDeBGyHl8jRrcufRe-3np2QNZOvsGTTqUbJkp8_-1dp15XjvG38Km1aL8ygD72OzTykkKjcpYWRVJ8vt2Bey9QJjip8EPW8cZa7ZPNcLt-&sig=AHIEtbQse8XoD3Znba9ZPAZoUs_xBVCzvg

sjbytes

February 7th, 2011
12:29 pm

Tom, if the issue wasn’t “being latino” why not open processing centers in Arizona, California or Texas to process immigrants from Mexico and central and south America? The same kind of processing centers that were open on Ellis Island and elsewhere in the early to mid 1900’s to process undocumented immigrants from Ireland, Italy and Russia. Why? because those immigrants were from “European” countries and that makes them ok.

You Asked

February 7th, 2011
12:41 pm

Tom

February 7th, 2011
10:13 am said…

“Were some of Tommy Irvin’s collection on papyrus?”
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Clay tablets.

You Asked

February 7th, 2011
12:44 pm

How can you tell if someone is legal?

E-verify.

Next question?

TrishaDishaWarEagle

February 7th, 2011
1:06 pm

Liberals love to hide behind race..”oh most illegal aliens are latino..if you are not for educating their kdis and paying their healthcare , then you are racist”. Thats why I generally would not give the heimlich to a leftist if they were choking to death in front of me. The simple fact of the matter is, no matter what benefit business may receive from illegal WB labor, the tax cost to the perpetually raped taxpayer rises because that illegal sends their little taquitos to public school on our dime, and when they cut their finger off Joe and Jane doormat, the taxpayer, pays for it. And lets face it, not even us citizens lives are worth that much to me, so non citizens are worth far less.

You Asked

February 7th, 2011
1:07 pm

sjbytes

February 7th, 2011
12:29 pm
Tom, if the issue wasn’t “being latino” why not open processing centers in Arizona, California or Texas to process immigrants from Mexico and central and south America?
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Because the immigration act of 1924 allows immigrants to be processed at any US embassy around the world. There is no need for large centralized immigration centers any more.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

February 7th, 2011
1:10 pm

If you can’t speak english and have more than 1 of the following… have a ladder on top of your 1987 minivan, a virgin mary candle on your dashboard, chickens in the FRONT yard, a rooster fighting ring in the back yard, the people at the 24 hour check cashing place don’t even ask you for ID anymore ..you might be illegal..

e-verify would work, also

TrishaDishaWarEagle

February 7th, 2011
1:41 pm

I want to see Tommy Irvins “other” files..the ones he kept on past governors , house speakers, etc..nobody survives thru that many different administrations without a lot of dirt on their boss’s

Jeff

February 7th, 2011
1:48 pm

If you can’t speak english and have more than 1 of the following… have a ladder on top of your 1987 minivan, a virgin mary candle on your dashboard, chickens in the FRONT yard, a rooster fighting ring in the back yard, the people at the 24 hour check cashing place don’t even ask you for ID anymore ..you might be illegal..

Keyword is MIGHT. I know a few American Citizens who fit that bill.

As far as eVerify: You can’t run that at a traffic stop. A private citizen can’t run it on anyone they see. So my question remains: How do you know any given person is “illegal”?

Jorge ROSWELL GA

February 7th, 2011
2:30 pm

I am married to a mexican woman who is now legal in this country Not every mexican comes here for ahandout I am Cuban American And thank God this great country let my family come here TO have a better life Thats what most of these people want Please stop all that hatred MY wifes family are good people who just want abetter life A month ago her parents were threaten that if they did not pay $5.000 dollars there father would be killed IMAGINE that here we have police toprotect us not in mexico They havent gone home since GOD willing they will get there visas soon MY wife and I are helpingthem what about the ones that dont haveb anyone GOD be with them THINK ABOUT THAT GOV GOD BLESS AMERICA

gatsby

February 7th, 2011
2:31 pm

I think the keyword in your case is “moron”.

sorry, but I have to be frank cause I’m done tip toeing around the idiots here.

Truly Sorry 4U and all the morons here.

Once again a thousand pardons for my faux pas.

Jorge ROSWELL GA

February 7th, 2011
2:34 pm

Enter your comments here

LMAO

February 7th, 2011
5:05 pm

Getting rid of the illegals will shut down Gainesville and the Chicken King Cagle. LMAO

Brittanicus

February 7th, 2011
5:19 pm

Where are the legal residents like Pam Anderson, to speak up and save America from this never ending onslaught of foreign nationals? We can only win the illegal immigration war, if regular people make a stand on the issue. The US government has for far too long intentionally overlooked this massive problem over thirty years. The border has been overrun, undermanned and so to the delight of un-American employers, millions have swept into this country stealing jobs. As I see it, it’s definitely lowered wages for the working man and women and the taking (approximately) 8 million jobs, in the majority of trades and profit producing companies offering minimum wages and no health benefits. Illegal alien and family members are uninsured, and end up painfully stinging the US taxpayer in the emergency rooms. If businesses didn’t attract illegal aliens and reduced the influx they would have no other choice but to hire US citizens and legal residents and therefore wages would spiral upwards and the hospitals would not get a monetary soaking, that eventually pried from YOU and ME by the IRS.

It’s up to the American worker or citizen to serve as a whistle blower and inform ICE, if the company they are employed by is hiring foreign workers. It’s unsettling to note that Nevada has become a settlement for illegal nationals even more so than the Sanctuary State of California. Does it not seem strange that trespassing onto American soil are rewarded by our government, and do not suffer the same fate as illegal’s intruding in other nations. Other countries have severe penalties such as being charged with felony or being fired upon at the Mexican-Guatemalan border. As more and more State legislators see the insaneness of pandering to the invasion that is costing billions of dollars and enact policing laws such as 287 (g) and E-Verify audits. The majority of anxious illegal foreigners will be looking for a new homes across state lines to find a refuge. California is already suffering from turning a blind eye by granting illegal aliens a free pass to welfare entitlements and a non hostile climate were citizens pay a hefty penalty in heavy taxes.

Over many decades taxpayers have been manipulated through badly misinterpreted laws such as the 14th Amendment, allowing the babies of illegal immigrants to access welfare benefits including housing for the low income. When old soldiers remain homeless illegal aliens can receive a key to Section 8 housing–if they conceive enough infants. Even before these people arrive in America, they have been well trained into deceiving the welfare offices with fraudulent ID. Today anybody who believes that we only have 11.5 million foreigners here, must be fortunately indifferent to the coming overpopulation chaos. Only those Americans or legal non citizens who care about the federal deficit will even bother to join a pro-sovereignty group, to show their courage against the open border organizations or even call their federal and local politicians to fight back against this injustice. Those oppose any kind of restrictions on illegal or even legal immigration are in the majority leftist groups with Liberal extremist undertones. Our government keeps more or less silent that over a million legal immigrants enter the US annually? Even the US government , (GAO) the General Accounting office has disclosed that for every (1) dollar paid in taxes by illegal foreigners, they receive back 3 dollars of our money.

It’s my judgment that unless California’s Sacramento lawmakers mend their ways and begin the task of cutting off every benefit to the millions of foreigners squatting there, they will become a principle destination. As enforcement becomes the name of the game in less compassionate States those homesteading there will head for Utah, Nevada, Oregon, Washington and other malleable States. It’s started already with the State of Arizona that is the first stop on the map for heinous criminals, people smugglers and drug gangs.

Intown

February 7th, 2011
5:31 pm

And how much has the GAO figured that illegal immigrants add to the economic output of the United States? I think it is more than the sum of their tax dollars.

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Andreafromfayette

February 7th, 2011
5:38 pm

This is one of the main obstacles I have faced trying to find a job for the last 4 years:

Fayette County, Georgia 9/7/09 Newspaper Ad: Appointment Scheduler — Busy OB/GYN practice has opening for full time appointment scheduler. BILINGUAL APPLICANTS ONLY, all others will not be considered. Must have excellent customer service skills and at least one year’s experience in scheduling. Fax resume: 770-991-1341,… Attn: Office Manager.

another comment

February 7th, 2011
6:29 pm

@andrea something is wrong with that, that you must be bilingual in Spanish to get a job in this country. Something is not right here. It is just plain wrong. When my Grandparents came to this country from Europe they had to learn English. We have to stop this press 2 for Spanish crap.

nicman

February 7th, 2011
9:46 pm

why is he exempting agriculture it should be all the industries.stand up and speak no wonder we cannot even stand up to mubarak in egypt we are quiet. let it be all jobs including baby sitter home care burger king and chinese restaurants too. now he chinese and russians will be laughing hey have not even given a statement on Egypt. i will be happy to see all the elementary schools and primary school empty and the teachers bus drivers, janitors lose their jobs as well as the school police

Kathleen

February 7th, 2011
10:44 pm

I question why any legislator/court would provide a seat at the table to Jerry Gonzales. Those who sell out our country so as to profit from the presence of illegal aliens do not deserve to be recognized; rather, they should be incarcerated, deported – or both.

From what I read it is D.A. King who is fighting for law and order and the people of Georgia/America; it is Gonzales who is responsible for allowing the illegal aliens to act as parasites living off the hosts (aka taxpayer).

History Will Teach Us if We Learn

February 8th, 2011
9:40 am

I think its funny that somebody who is an Auburn fan like Trisha War Eagle wants to discriminate against people who dont speak or write English well. Good thing for Trish that the legislation doesnt require you to have all your teeth to be legal.

History Lesson

February 8th, 2011
11:13 am

Please tell me, “where were the illegal immigration or illegal aliens laws on or before the year 1492? Yeah I know! We can come the their country, conquer it meaning rape, rob, the kill inhabitiants and displace them, make boarders (even, the Alamo) and rewrite history and its OK! Only a few of us still remember these so-called illegals roamed the so-called Americas centuries before they were illegally invaded by immigrates! Now, who’s right?