Bill would make 'encouraging' illegal immigrants a crime

Inman Park

January 26th, 2011
1:38 pm

A nation (and the people in it) has a right to protect its borders, Illegal immigrants are ILLEGAL! WHy is that so hard to understand?

the law

January 26th, 2011
1:41 pm

its a crime to enter without inspection. 8 USC 1325. “shall … be fined … or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both…”

georgian

January 26th, 2011
1:45 pm

Hmmm. This would make our poultry industry and our farmers criminals.

General Spanky

January 26th, 2011
1:52 pm

“…or that transports…an illegal alien once they arrive.”

MARTA better get themselves a good lawyer.

It’s unfortunate, expensive and time-consuming but these state statutes (GA, AZ etal) are necessary because the federal government has failed to carry out its responsibilities to secure our borders and to apprehend and expel illegal aliens. Very few Americans are anti-immigration; most however are anti-illegal immigration. Big difference.

RetiredSoldier

January 26th, 2011
2:06 pm

Well said General.

Jon

January 26th, 2011
2:11 pm

We’re not “hospital” we’re “hospitable”

Just Wait

January 26th, 2011
2:19 pm

We obviously need to do something about illegal immigrants, but if this type bill passes, DO NOT complain about police response when you need them. They will be very busy carrying prisoners, not to the local jail, but to a federal facility. The police can hardly keep up now. Not to mention the money it will cost the the Feds sue Georgia and the the illegals sue the cops!

raj52

January 26th, 2011
2:27 pm

WHAT A HIPPOCRATE what do you think these politicians are these are the same peoples sitting inthe congress and there they do not want to pass any immigration reform bill but in the states they become champions of the cause what a shame why does an average AMERICAN cannot understand their games and vote for those who stand on their feet with their spine straight and look into the eyes of the people and speak out that they want this immigration mess to be cleared or not stop playing with this just to get votes.Please be true to your self if not the country.Why pass the stupid bills state wise,,county wise or city wise why the public has to speak? why not these elected congress men and senators? they are their because of us so they should be representing us and speaking to fellow congress men and senators to clean this mess up BUT NO they will not because they need some burning issues for every election and immigration could be the best for them.What they preach they do not practice and what they promise they do not fulfill .I am surprised waht we Americans cannot understand and we get carried away with false promises instead to cursing the illegal immigrants why not curse the politicians who have put the country in this mess.
LET THEM BE ANSWERABLE AND NOT CURSE THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TO MAKE A LIVING AND BETTER FUTURE and believe me these politicians if they want they can pass such a law without hurting anyone that all these illegals will go home in a day and that is be strict on the employers the simple funda is no jobs no money why would they stay here.Have you guys read the numbers that the illegal immigration fell due to bad economy so why these world renowned politicians cannot understand that let the economy be bad for these illegals they will never come back

tony

January 26th, 2011
2:30 pm

I am a booking officer at a small county jail in southeast Ga. This bill would put a burden on the taxpayers in the county.Who do you think is going to house them? Not the feds.We can’t get ICE to pick up the ones that we bring in. They pay cash for their traffic fines and they leave. We also do not have in place a system to find out who’s illegal or not.The county tax payers would have to foot the bill for the system. Mark my words.The feds will not pick them up and the local tax payers will foot the bill to keep them in jail because it will be a state charge.That also includes their medical costs.So be careful what you wish for.

Last Man Standing

January 26th, 2011
2:31 pm

General, you said it very well. I know of no one who is anti-immigration. I also do not know anyone who supports illegal immigration. One of the very few responsibilities that the federal government is charged with is the protection of the borders. They do not perform that task well. If we adopted Mexico’s laws and penalties concerning illegal immigration, I believe that we would drastically reduce the number of illegal immigrants.

thebob.bob

January 26th, 2011
2:36 pm

All whites of European ancestry are illegal immigrants. They were religious fanatics who invaded the continent and murdered, raped and pillaged the native-born Americans. Their descendants should leave at once.

GaBlue

January 26th, 2011
2:37 pm

Officer Tony,

Thank you for explaining the importance of logistics. But since the armchair ideologues rarely think beyond the task of justifying their latest rant, don’t expect the people of Georgia to hear or understand what’s really involved in “solving” this problem.

Black Conservative

January 26th, 2011
2:39 pm

@ General and Soldier – How do YOU propose the feds protect the borders without increasing the size of government? This is a complicated issue and the solution is not that simple. I am for proper enforcement of current laws on the books, but as we have witnessed, the last concern most politicians have (especially those here in GA) is paying for the laws they pass. What Ramsey proposes will be expensive and it will burden our court systems with law suits. Plus, it has the potential to infringe on First Amendment rights.

Sea Worthy

January 26th, 2011
2:53 pm

Illegal aliens SHOULD be arrested, prosecuted and exported from the country as soon as they are found. I hope Ramsey’s bill passes with a unamious vote!

RetiredSoldier

January 26th, 2011
2:56 pm

Black-

Last part first, you need to explain why you think it violates the 1st amendment, I don’t think so.

How do we pay for this and do this without increasing the size of govt? Simple, if this is a priority then you reduce spending in other areas and reduce personnel in other areas and add personnel to enforcement. It can be a zero sum decision if hard choices are made.

Law suits? One should never chart their path based on fear of a law suit. The right thing is the right thing regardless of others actions.

Sam of Georgia

January 26th, 2011
3:02 pm

Were the borders secure during the 8 years that Bush was president or during the 12 years when Reagan/Bush served as president. This and other state immigration bills are just for show and to grab headlines. Let’s focus on things that create jobs for all that want to work.

mj

January 26th, 2011
3:03 pm

Perp walk the CEOs of any company or government agency where illegal workers are found. That’s also a law that’s not being enforced.

….now sit back and wait for the farm lobbyists to switch from lobbying for the annual Farm Bill subsidies to demand the government leave the poor farmers alone.

td

January 26th, 2011
3:03 pm

“How do we pay for this and do this without increasing the size of govt? Simple, if this is a priority then you reduce spending in other areas and reduce personnel in other areas and add personnel to enforcement. It can be a zero sum decision if hard choices are made.”

I am sure the savings in Medicaid cost and education will more than pay for the initial expense.

td

January 26th, 2011
3:06 pm

Sam of Georgia

January 26th, 2011
3:02 pm
Were the borders secure during the 8 years that Bush was president or during the 12 years when Reagan/Bush served as president

No they were not and I was raising H3ll then and am raising it now. The only bad decision Regan made in office was amnesty.

Atlanta-born Latino

January 26th, 2011
3:09 pm

It’s still amazing to me the level of bigotry and hatred that I see expressed about illegal immigration. By definition ANY individual who overstays their visa is in the country illegally, and that includes millions of people from Europe, Asia, Africa, even Canada.

However, it is obvious from the language and the intent of this proposed legislation and from your comments that the only “illegal immigrants” that you have a problem with are those who are hispanic!

On top of that, I’ve never heard any of you express that you’d be willing to pay thousands more for housing, and a substantial amount more for your fruits, vegetables, and meats if they had to pay Americans to pick them off trees and work the meat processing plants. Illegal immigration exists for the simple reason that the demand still exists for their services.

And as far as the cost of burdening the system, which costs less??? SPENDING resources to round em up and hold them here til the feds come get them, or provide a path for them to legalize themselves and pay the appropriate fees? Do you realize that just the basic fees to attain a green card with no extra fines is over $3,000 per person??? With over 12,000,000 “illegals” here that is over $36 BILLION in revenue if we opened that path….

clipper

January 26th, 2011
3:17 pm

Matt, pass is guaranteed. Stick to your guns, damn the idea of me and fellow americans paying the tab for illegals.

Flat Tax

January 26th, 2011
3:19 pm

Give us a flat tax and let everyone in! The rich should not burden the poor and the poor should not burden the rich. Drug dealers, bartenders, illegal immigrants… everyone will pay equally and it will be the end of the discussion.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
3:19 pm

Do what you gotta do. Send ‘em back.

SirReal

January 26th, 2011
3:23 pm

@bob well said…

Beth

January 26th, 2011
3:25 pm

I handle all new hires for a private company, well over 100 a year. I am not mandated to use E-verify as I have no government contracts. I have been waiting YEARS to be forced to use it. You have no idea whats going on in the real world. Think all the way to workers compensation settlements that end up in Mexico via Western Union. Makes me sick and we all pay.

Mr. Chamber of Commerce

January 26th, 2011
3:26 pm

Businesses will leave the state. Agriculture will take a huge hit. Boycotts will occur. Conventions will cancel. Hotels and restaurants will go out of business. Police won’t be able to their job b/c they will be hauling brown people around.

You shallow idiots in support of this legislation are going to bring this great state to its knees. Idiots!

HereandThere

January 26th, 2011
3:27 pm

You guys many here without papers were here when the policy was you only got deported if you committed a felony. Hiding behind the “they are illegal” argument is just that, hiding. The State of Georgia economically is dependent on these so called illegal immigrants. Sales tax revenues, income tax revenues, property tax revenues, business revenues – I could go on. This law is an intrusive thrust into our lives by the government and for a conservative state to promote such unnecessary intrusion illustrates the hypocrisy.

peace

January 26th, 2011
3:28 pm

@Atlanta-born Latino
good point

Voice of Reason

January 26th, 2011
3:29 pm

I am all for ending illegal immigration. If this bill would do it, fine. BUT…why could we not simply make it illegal to pay an illegal immigrant or receive payment as an illegal immigrant? Also, why could we not disallow any government funds, ie medicare, medicaid, WIC, emergency room treatment…disallow ANY funds to illegals…? This would solve the problem with no shots, no walls, nothing. They come for the MONEY people!!! Money that taxpayers provide. Also, we should end citizenship for so called anchor babies. The original intent of this law was not massive subversion of our immigration laws.

NE Ga. Poultry Guy

January 26th, 2011
3:29 pm

I reckon I will have to move my farm. I never thought Georgia would get worse than Alabama or Mississippi but it’s happening before my very eyes.

HereandThere

January 26th, 2011
3:30 pm

@Beth does your company withold social security and medicare payments on the wages of these workers you feel are undocumented? They are supposed to be. And guess what these undocumented workers can’t collect any benefits from the 14% in social security and medicare payments being withheld from their paychecks and they don’t get unemployment benefits. Believe me they are paying their fair share. The State of Georgia is not losing money on them.

If your company is not withholding taxes then you don’t need EVerify to report them.

HereandThere

January 26th, 2011
3:31 pm

14% includes employee match so more correctly stated as 14% paid on their wages by employee and employer.

Moonlight

January 26th, 2011
3:32 pm

Let the word go out… Georgia is no longer the state too busy to hate. We don’t want your kind here. This legislation makes it clear.

Beth

January 26th, 2011
3:32 pm

Here and there: I wish you could see all the W2’s I just printed that ZERO was paid to Federal and State. Not 1 dime. But then that would be illegal to show them to you……..some of us follow the rules!

Neighboring States

January 26th, 2011
3:34 pm

Thank you so much for doing this Georgia! The Economic Development departments of all your neighboring states could not have planned this better! We will gladly take the businesses you want to run off.

Beth

January 26th, 2011
3:34 pm

Yes, the mandated 7.65% Wish that was ALL that came out of my check.

HereandThere

January 26th, 2011
3:35 pm

@ voice of reason the term anchor baby applied when the baby could sponsor the parents to become citizens. Law was changed so they can’t sponsor them until they reach the age of 21 so hardly an anchor.

People aren’t risking their lives to come here just to have a baby.

And yes it is about money. Not money the state is giving them. Heck if you aren’t in DeKalb or Fulton you aren’t paying for Grady anyway. And what money is the state giving them? The state is making money off of them. Heck look at all the lottery scratch of tickets geared towards people from Central America – the Lotteria scratchoff? The can’t afford for to lose the revenues they collect from this group.

Atlanta-born Latino

January 26th, 2011
3:36 pm

@HereandThere, and Mr. Chamber of Commerce: Well Said

@Beth – and how do those payments compare with the MILLIONS your private company saves every year in lower wages???

Economic Observer

January 26th, 2011
3:37 pm

As the nation recovers, Georgia will decline. I cannot imagine a worse anti-business bill as this one.

HereandThere

January 26th, 2011
3:39 pm

Beth if they are claiming to many dependents the law as they exist now allows the state to audit their taxes and collect taxes due. Then again maybe they aren’t making enough to be subject to taxes after deductions anyway. What’s the wage level – in general.

And most americans aren’t paying more than a 14% effective rate anyway which is the amount being paid for there SS in Medicare. You get the benefit of that 14% they don’t. So that makes it a tax. Most people paying less than 40k a year are paying less than 15% income tax.

wow

January 26th, 2011
3:41 pm

This state is going downhill faster than the economy. Last thing we need is uneducated and angry cops having a yet another excuse to screw with you because their life sucks.

There is a reason why immigration is a federal matter and not the jurisdiction of a 21yo GED idiot barney who hasn’t left his own county his entire life

td

January 26th, 2011
3:43 pm

NE Ga. Poultry Guy

January 26th, 2011
3:29 pm
I reckon I will have to move my farm. I never thought Georgia would get worse than Alabama or Mississippi but it’s happening before my very eyes.

And you do not think these states are not going to follow suit?

HereandThere

January 26th, 2011
3:43 pm

Although it might seem that deporting all unauthorized immigrant workers from the labor force would automatically improve job prospects for unemployed Americans, the fact is that employment is not a “zero sum” game. Mass deportation would actually reduce U.S. GDP by 1.46% annually, amounting to a $2.6 trillion cumulative loss in GDP over 10 years, and cost an estimated $206 billion to $230 billion over 5 years. The notion that unemployed natives could simply be “swapped” for employed unauthorized immigrants is not valid economically. There is little apparent relationship between recent immigration and unemployment rates at the regional, state, or county level.

CT

January 26th, 2011
3:43 pm

I think we should have the Georgia Air National Guard on standby at the major hospitals in Georgia. As soon as an illegal immigrant arrives for childbirth, we fly them to back to their native country. Sure it’d be expensive but when you consider the costs of childbirth, WIC, Medicaid, welfare, ESL education and more, it might be a good deal. Or we can invoke the 13th Amendment that permits involuntary servitude for criminals. If they want to break the law to obtain work, then put them to work.

Merleliz

January 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

We have to stop the flow of illegals into this state unless you want Georgia to end up like California…flat broke! Do you realize how much taxpayer money goes to supporting illegals? 10 BILLION dollars a year! We have fellow Georgians out of work and desperate for money to feed their families. Dalton and Calhoun are about to become ghost towns. Americans first, people…and by Americans first, I include LEGAL immigrants to this country…who followed the law and did the right thing to get here!

@crazyforliberty (Doug Craig)

January 26th, 2011
3:45 pm

They proplem is not illegals but our Government. You pay for thier kids because we have government schools we paid for thier food because we have welfare.The average wait time for a Mexican to do the right thing and wait in line is 105 years even is they have a legal family member here. This is one of the longest waits for any one country.Most of the Mexican would do what ever we ask of them, they just want the American Dream I believe most do not want amensty but a chance not to be Illegal. Most Illegal are better workers and Americans than native born Americans

USMC dawg

January 26th, 2011
3:49 pm

Leave it to a Moronic Liberal like Jim Galloway to draw a conclusion like this.

Jim, how about having a spine and let’s address the F’d up situation we find ourselves in.

They are adressing the employers that hire ILLEGALS by persuading them to come and work here in the U.S.

But NO! Jim Galloway and the AJC try to pull the victim card out and draw the wrong conclusions, AS USUAL!

Please remember they are ILLEGAL! MORON

Beth

January 26th, 2011
3:50 pm

Here n There: What on earth makes you think they even file income tax??? I have never received a levy from the State of GA in 12 years…..not one. Other states, yes. I have received Federal levy’s but the employee is long gone. And no past employee, that I suspect but cannot prove status, has ever called looking for a missing W2. And the wage….all are well above the poverty level.

Small town citizen

January 26th, 2011
3:51 pm

HereandThere, We can shed your cost by the billions that it costs to provide social programs and welfare for these people, educating their kids, and funding their healthcare. IMO if the feds wont provide legal relief for this then the states have every right to do such. States like California and Georgia are being bankrupt by the illegals and citizens in Arizona are being KILLED by them, not to mention the cost there.

As far as your farmers needing the help, well I have a solution for that too. Every person on the welfare roll will report to a farm for a 40 hour job. There, the farmers can pay into the welfare system, the welfare people will get off welfare and the illegals can go home and come back the right way. The way I see it, that will save Trillians to the US taxpayer who does not deserve to be robbed every week because people are either illegal or to lazy.

Corey

January 26th, 2011
3:52 pm

Conservatives- epecially the red state variety- are driven by fear, paranoia, mean spiritedness and spite. They always look outside of themselves for thier own misery and lay blame at the feet of this or that group. If it isn’t the blacks, it’s the hispanics, or the Muslims, or the gays, or the welfare recepients, or the libs ad nauseam. The very same people who are so afraid of their fellow worshippers and want to sit in the pew on Sunday morning packing heat.

Iron Lumber 13

January 26th, 2011
3:52 pm

Borders, schmorders. If they want to fix the illegal immigration problem they should go after THE PEOPLE THAT HIRE THEM AND RENT TO THEM, period. No jobs + no places to stay = no illegals.

That said if I were in they’re (illegals) shoes I’d be here too. Regardless, American workers in fields like construction shouldn’t be less because they have to compete with people WHO’LL DO ANYTHING FOR SUB-PAR WAGES AND NO BENEFITS OF ANY KIND. Illegal Immigration kills jobs and wages, nuff said.

Harry Reid

January 26th, 2011
3:54 pm

obama and eric holder will hold a news conference tomorrow to announce their intentions to sue Georgia if this bill becomes law. They will also announce what a great job they are doing in securing our borders.

Atlanta-born Latino

January 26th, 2011
3:55 pm

Listen, if we want to start talking about “supporting” people, let’s factor in that $10 Billion is less than 3% of the $434 Billion we spend annually on Federal and State welfare programs!!!

Iron Lumber 13

January 26th, 2011
3:55 pm

wowzers I should proofread

American wages is what I meant to say and…
their shoes

woops

Jim T

January 26th, 2011
3:56 pm

Corey

January 26th, 2011
3:52 pm
Conservatives- epecially the red state variety- are driven by fear, paranoia, mean spiritedness and spite. They always look outside of themselves for thier own misery and lay blame at the feet of this or that group. If it isn’t the blacks, it’s the hispanics, or the Muslims, or the gays, or the welfare recepients, or the libs ad nauseam. The very same people who are so afraid of their fellow worshippers and want to sit in the pew on Sunday morning packing heat.
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Corey, just wondering what flavor kool aid are you drinking?
Now, grab you little leftie snuggie blanket and go back to sleep…it’s cold outside.

cliff Zeider

January 26th, 2011
3:57 pm

Hey, There goes the Mexican Rests. cliff

Toby Saunders

January 26th, 2011
3:57 pm

As the BBCs Greg Palast accurately notes, these laws are politically influenced: it’s the new age of the GOP ’southern strategy’, that is, finding creative ways to prevent racial minorties (usually Democratic voters) from voting. In this instance, some low-income Latin people will be afraid of being arrested for ‘looking illegal’ when standing in these long lines we see at under-served voting polls in low-income areas, hence, Democrats will get fewer votes: it’s a racially-based scare tactic & it immorally works in the GOPs favor.

HereandThere

January 26th, 2011
3:58 pm

Public Schools are largely paid for through property taxes and sales taxes – both of which “illegals” pay. In fact in DeKalb and many other places rental units pay a higher rate of property taxes.

Come on Man

January 26th, 2011
3:58 pm

Here’s an idea; enforce the law we have today. Last time i looked, it is was already illegal to come to our country outside the legal process. Its time to stand up for us for a change. Criminals need to be sent back to where they came from.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
3:59 pm

thebob.bob said, “All whites of European ancestry are illegal immigrants. They were religious fanatics who invaded the continent and murdered, raped and pillaged the native-born Americans. Their descendants should leave at once”

Wrong, being illegal is a crime and crimes happen when laws are broken. The life was different back then and the people here had no laws like that to be broken. There are laws now, and these people who come here without following the laws are illegal. In the past taking over land was normal.

DR DMAN

January 26th, 2011
4:01 pm

MOVE OUR MILITARY TRAINING CENTERS TO OUR SOUTHERN BORDER! The ILLEGAL invasion is costing us BILLIONS, federal funds, state funds & local funds. Our most recent wars have been fought in areas that are ‘desert like’. #2 the DRUG WAR is costing us BILLIONS… most of it coming into the U.S. over our Southern Border. Why not address BOTH of those issues by putting MOST of our military training facilities ALONG that border…??? Then, if/when the Mexican government get SERIOUS about fighting their growing DRUG CARTEL/DRUG MURDER issues… possibly we send in some of our guys to help them CLEAN this $%#& up…! TWO PROBLEMS… ONE SOLUTION…!

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:02 pm

Mr. Chamber of Commers said, “Businesses will leave the state. Agriculture will take a huge hit. Boycotts will occur. Conventions will cancel. Hotels and restaurants will go out of business. Police won’t be able to their job b/c they will be hauling brown people around.

You shallow idiots in support of this legislation are going to bring this great state to its knees. Idiots!”

You need to learn that not all illegals are brown people. Your statement also makes it sound like you want illegals here just for your own personal gain, such as legal slavery.

Nerm

January 26th, 2011
4:02 pm

OK, so not that it matters now but when they start building houses again the prices will skyrocket. Restaurant prices will skyrocket along with the fruits and vegetables in our grocery stores. Roads, what roads? We don’t need no stinkin roads… Textiles, Mills, Factories, etc.

Why do you think Republicans haven’t created an Act in Congress to deal with the 10+ Million illegals in the country? Why don’t they just send them back? First, it would cripple our economy. The chinese dollar is extremely undervalued and could soon replace the dollar as the worlds reserve. The chinese already own over 1 trillion in US notes. Why? Because they have a cheap labor force!! You’re all a bunch of dimwits. A cheap immigrant labor force is what has allowed the US economy to dominate the global market place for the last century. Get rid of it now and we won’t have to wait until 2020 for the Chinese to officially take over as the largest GDP. Second, the Repubs biggest contributors rely the most on the cheap labor force!! The wealthies people in America line their pockets on the work mexican immigrants do.

Why didn’t the Dems create amnesty when they had control? Because they wouldn’t be able to bandwagon every election cycle.

And, yes. They will do jobs that others won’t. And, for less pay. That is the only way we are going stay ahead of the developing nations around the world. Not just China either. India (1.15 Billion), Brazil (200 Million), Indonesia (229 Million), Bangladesh (162 Million). You really think Americans can produce a better product at a CHEAPER PRICE than these countries? This is what has gotten us in the trouble where we are at now. We consume a chitload more than we produce. Why ‘we’ Americans feel like we have a birthright to control the free world is beyond me. The US makes up only 5% of the worlds population. If you think countries like Iran, Russia and China aren’t meeting right now to stop valuing oil in US dollars then you need to get your head out of the sand or wherever you may have it right now.

Mexicans may be the only source of labor that can save this country, especially with the majority of our country about to start receiving social security and living off the teet of medicaid. The boomers ‘golden years’ are going to bankrupt our country into oblivion. We need a steady stream for the new workforce.

I am a lifetime resident of the state of Georgia but I see what is happening beyond the county I live in. You people need to wake the F up!

Our forecasted national debt in 2011 is 1.5Billion.

People have been using races/ethnicities as scapegoats since America was formed…from the Irish to the Chinese it’s always been someone else fault and not our own.

GA Boy

January 26th, 2011
4:02 pm

Beth, google “earnings suspense file”. The federal government receives billions in taxes from fictitious social security numbers paid by undocumented workers.

Atlanta-born Latino

January 26th, 2011
4:03 pm

@Trey – so because taking over land back then was normal and there were no laws against that made it right??? Do you really want to go down that path?

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:04 pm

Thebob.bob, oh yeah. These were not the “Americas” when the people before us lived here, and the decendents should not leave because of what happened in the past, because guess, what, a lot of Americans today did not have ancestors here when that happened. My earliest relatives got here in the 1800 to 1900s, with the exception of my Cherokee great grand mother.

Common Sense

January 26th, 2011
4:04 pm

To those of you who don’t have a problem with illegal aliens, let me ask you this:

How do you feel about someone breaking into your house and stealing what is yours? How about those who run red lights, but don’t hit anybody? What about drug pushers selling drugs to our kids by the playground?

The fact of the matter is that the USA is a land of LAWS, and those laws need to be followed. That is why we have stop signs, speed limits, and rules regarding behavior towards others.

Anyone who wants to become an American, by following the proper process, then I am all for it. Those who wish to attain it illegally should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Just because the Feds choose not to enforce the law does NOT mean that the individual States should just sit back and let the illegals drain their coffers so that the legal citizens have to suffer.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:05 pm

Atlanta-born Latino, re-read my post. I said it was normal back then and it was not illegal. We have laws now, and the laws must be followed. If you come here illegal then you are a criminal, point blank.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:08 pm

Atlanta-born Latino, it was normal back then, but I never said it was right. However, you got people calling white people the true “illegal immigrants” for what European ancestors did. They weren’t, now if there were laws placed against that kind of stuff, then I’d say it was illegal.

reality

January 26th, 2011
4:10 pm

its cheaper to jail them and send them back to mexico than it is to let them stay and drain the housing communities and government assistance programs. I dont mine paying a higher tax to get them of the burden of the government. Send em back to Mexico, where they will continue to support the drug cartels and their anti american hatred

@crazyforliberty (Doug Craig)

January 26th, 2011
4:10 pm

I believe Reagan was the last president to give out Amensty. The great hero of the GOP.You know maybe he was on the right track. Did not the economy boom while he was prez.Maybe he knew what he was doing. What would Reagan do he would go with freedom and the free markets. What would todays GOP. Again guys we try to solve a proplem the government made with a government solution but I would not expect anything less from the GOP. They love government when it suites them

reality

January 26th, 2011
4:11 pm

get the off the burden of the government

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:13 pm

reality, but not all illegal immigrants are from Mexico. You have illegal immigrants from all over thw world over here. Obama’s grandmother is an illegal immigrant, but for some reason she gets to continue to live here and drain our resources.

Storm 8

January 26th, 2011
4:13 pm

Now that they have built my house they can get to steppin’ huh? We rely too much on conventions and sports to alienate potential visitors. Have the clowns looked at teh negative economic impact on Arizona of this type of legislation?

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:16 pm

Storm 8, so you just want to use illegals for your own financial gain? By the way, what negative economic impact has Arizona had due to their new immigration laws? They have been doing just fine over there.

HereandThere

January 26th, 2011
4:16 pm

No matter what the laws stated for years we laid the welcome mat out and encouraged people to come to the U.S. the one trade off being they don’t get benefits, they don’t have rights and if they commit a felony they are deported. And yes many came and risked their lives to get here because its a very dangerous trip. They came to escape poverty not on a whim. People be human – for all the talk of Christian benevolence in this State I’m not seeing much of that here. At least the Catholic Church and the Southern Baptists recognize the need to show some humanity.

Bottom line we are changing the rules midstream. They aren’t breaking into anyone’s house, they aren’t taking anything they are contributing. The better analogy is if someone gets caught Jay Walking are they a criminal….they are breaking the law after all… but that hardly amounts to a criminal act. Coming to the U.S.A. was not considered a criminal act before and its unfair and economically unwise to change the rules now.

Atlanta-born Latino

January 26th, 2011
4:16 pm

Wrong Trey. Being in the country illegally is a civil offense according to federal law, punishable by fines and deportation. it does not make you a criminal.

Incidentally, Cubans and hispanics from certain countries that have suffered natural disasters come into the country illegally every day and are granted asylum. So illegal becomes a relative term and is used so selectively as to be discriminatory

NYG5056

January 26th, 2011
4:18 pm

They are breaking the LAW. I do not understand how you can say its unconstitutional.They are not US citizens there for OUR constitition has nothing to do with them. I am not worried about France’s laws cause I am an American. I have no problem with wanting to be a US citizen but do it legally. If this law passes I think I might join ICE I know where some of these illegals hang out in Canton looking for work.

HereandThere

January 26th, 2011
4:19 pm

Trey that’s the problem you believe the hype being fed to you by right wing wackos who are trying to scare you. Read some objective reporting on all this. They aren’t draining anything. True the government may not net a gain on lower income people deporting all illegals will just move others into the lower income range.

Iron Lumber 13

January 26th, 2011
4:20 pm

Once again and I’m done. IT’S NOT a border issue. Protecting the border would cost too much especially if the government KEEPS ALLOWING COMPANIES AND INDIVIDUALS TO HIRE THEM AND RENT TO THEM.

As a former construction worker, I’ll tell you right now that the only reason illegals have work, is because they’ll do ANYTHING FOR LESS. These business guys that hire them are scum and have eroded working class wages that compete with illegals. They get away without paying workers comp., fair wages, insurance, unemployment, etc. they are EXPLOITATIVE and should be shut down for many reasons such as those. So, shut them down because they hire illegals instead of resident aliens and Americans.

alan

January 26th, 2011
4:20 pm

O my god! I may have to pay more to have pine straw put down!!!!!!

john

January 26th, 2011
4:22 pm

More Liberal slant from the AJC. I’m sure it will require manpower and jails to house all of these illegals. Small price to pay for making an effort to stop the taxpayer bleeding that currently funds the healthcare, etc. for these criminals. This policy would guarantee that when I speak to a neighbor about the weather or moonlight, his answer would be in English!

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:22 pm

Atlanta-born Latino, but if that was so true and just a “civil offense”, then the federal government would have no business interfering with Arizona’s new immigration laws.

“Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, “Improper Entry by Alien,” any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or

Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or

Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.”

If you do something illegal that means it is a crime. If you commit crimes you are a criminal. Actually, it is not just the Cubans and Hispanics that are granted asylum, refugees from all over the world have come over for asylums.

Atlanta-born Latino

January 26th, 2011
4:24 pm

True, but Cubans do enter “illegally”. The book on them is if they are caught before they get to shore they’re deported, but if they make landfall they’re home free.

Tom

January 26th, 2011
4:25 pm

There’s a big difference in saying, “We have great weather here, and the people are very hospitable”, and ” We have great weather here, the people are very hospitable. You should come and live here illegally!” The author of this article has got to be a Simpleton.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

January 26th, 2011
4:26 pm

It should be a crime to knowingly transport illegal aliens to the state..or to lure them..it’s called being a coyote. But according to liberals, illegal aline sonly do jobs americans don;t want, so those jobs never existed before the illegals came . zero sum gain. If illegals are damned and determined to be in GA, at least make it comical and drive a big paper machete pinata to the state border then bust out and scatter to the 4 corners of the state.

rathssuit

January 26th, 2011
4:26 pm

So much for the state’s farming industry.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

January 26th, 2011
4:26 pm

Tom, the author is a democrat..nuff said:)

deegee

January 26th, 2011
4:27 pm

The dittoheads in this country complain about the labor unions and how they break the back of American business with all of the high wages and benefits they extract from their employers. Then they turn around and complain about how illegal immigrants are breaking the back of American labor because they work cheap. Go figure.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

January 26th, 2011
4:29 pm

@rathsuit..how did the states farming industry exist (even as a much larger % of the states GDP than today) before illegal aliens? Oh thats right, the work was done by people legal to be here.

Luda Kris

January 26th, 2011
4:30 pm

I don’t think you could author a bill like this unless you had hate in your heart.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:30 pm

“Trey that’s the problem you believe the hype being fed to you by right wing wackos who are trying to scare you. Read some objective reporting on all this. They aren’t draining anything. True the government may not net a gain on lower income people deporting all illegals will just move others into the lower income range.”

I’d rather believe the hype from the right-wing wackos than the left-wing loonies. Funny, as I am not a right-winger, nor a left-winger. I am a Libertarian, and Libertarians want stronger immigration enforcement laws. For you to tell me that I need to “read”, is complete garbage, as I do read about this stuff or I wouldn’t comment.

Let’s see:

Illegals get hurt or sick, able to get medical care at hospitals.

Illegals have kids who are automatic citizens and are able to overcrowd classrooms.

Illegals are being used as legal slavery.

If you allow people to stay illegally, that just defeats the purpose for those that are waiting in line just to become legal citizens. One of my friend’s has his green card and he is in the United States Army, yet he is having trouble becoming a complete citizen. Why should people turn the other way while illegals are coming over, while my friend is waiting in line and working his ass off to become a citizen? The sad part is that he is a citizen from Bosnia, the war torn country.

I love immigrants, as we are a nation of immigrants, but you should do it the legal way and if you come over illegally, you should be punished.

Carl

January 26th, 2011
4:30 pm

I do a lot of traveling internationally for work and when I work overseas I am required by that country to have valid documentation showing I am allowed to be in their country. For the life of me I can not understand why people are against it! ILLEGAL means ILLEGAL!!! It seems the only people upset by it are the ones that are either here illegally or have family/friends here illegally. And why is it unconstitutional to ask if someone is a legal resident? When the cops pull over a speeder, dont they ask for a drivers license? No one seems upset about that? We have become a nation that is way too afraid of hurting someones feelings and less concerned about protecting our borders. This is not just about the honest hard working (still illegal) guy that wants to come here, do manual labor and send money to his family in Mexico. This is also about protecting us from the terrorist that are entering our borders.

dmcsga

January 26th, 2011
4:30 pm

Republicans show their ignorance and stupidity again. America is becoming worse and worse, if we don’t watch ourselves we no longer will be Super Power more like a huge population that will eat our own action. First of all when poultry, meat, produce will triple in cost because lazy americans won’t do the job for $8 per hour than they want benefits, health insurance, etc Oh I forgot, not they don’t otherwise they wouldn’t cry about Obama care.

I can see now how everybody cries to feds that they can’t feed their kids because the farmers will hurt because they can’t get anybody to do the work, which in turn will cause them to go out of business and we will have to import dairy, produce, etc and pay triple. Georgia broke ass will be the first one to suffer.

Look at all these empty condos in midtown, they thought they could attract people to come here but guess what nobody wants to come here anymore to live, nor do the companies. I just read how Georgians were crying that Volkswagen wouldn’t hire anybody. Well, put it this way, if you think your racist and ignorant ways will attract foreigners to offer some relief think twice!

The last time I checked all American car makers are struggling to hold on, the only thing they could do was tarnish the image of Toyota in hopes we would buy American again.

If you want our country to turn around again and get the economy back up, we need money from outside of America because inside there is none. I don’t support illegal immigration but at the same time if you have people that are willing to die to be here and work here, they will make by far better citizens than the ones that are here already. There are plenty of ways to make it better way. I am pretty sure if there was a way for illegals to come here legally they would have obviously our policies are screwed up and not working.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:31 pm

a war torn country.

Tim

January 26th, 2011
4:31 pm

I vote YES!

Orange09

January 26th, 2011
4:31 pm

Put it on the ballot. Let the voters decide.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

January 26th, 2011
4:32 pm

When your local walmrt puts in “the pinata” aisle, property values are heading down..time to move..RIP Buford Highway, RIP Lilburn, RIP Duluth, RIP smyrna,

Logic

January 26th, 2011
4:34 pm

The solution to fixing our illegal immigration problem isn’t that difficult. Enforce the law that already exists making it illegal for anyone to hire an illegal alien/immigrant. If you get caught employing undocumented workers you get fined, period. There is no need for anymore laws or fences. If there is not a job market for illegal immigrants in this country, they will have no incentive to come in the first place. As for those already here, the same principle will apply and they will have no choice but to go somewhere else that offers a job market or apply for legal immigration status.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:34 pm

Trisha, last time I was in a Wal-Mart I never saw that, but I agree, Lilburn, Buford Highway, and Duluth have gone into the complete crapper.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:37 pm

Logic, those who hire illegals should be fined, jailed, and loss of business.

Uncle Joe

January 26th, 2011
4:38 pm

Is this new? I am shocked that such a law is not already in existence federally as well as in our state. Does this mean that aiding someone you know to be ILLEGAL or being an ILLEGAL has been LEGAL up to now? Why is this being portrayed as “controversial”?

rathssuit

January 26th, 2011
4:40 pm

@TrishaDishaWarEagle Sure there’s legal workers, but before illegal aliens? Was there a time when illegals weren’t working here? Let’s not act like they just started showing up when politicians today decided to make it one of their favorite talking points.

Logic

January 26th, 2011
4:40 pm

Exactly, I don’t understand why that concept is hard for people to grasp.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
4:42 pm

Logic, I honestly could not tell you.

JBD

January 26th, 2011
4:44 pm

This is about forcing all companies to use E-verify. If you use e-verify then the illegal immigrant most find a false social security number and the government makes their payroll taxes. The federal government won’t stop illegal immigration because the only way to keep social security afloat in the future is to add to the number of people paying in. By forcing the immigrants to provide sometime of false social security number, the worker gets paid and the government gets its cut. They can pull from a large group of workers who they can tax but wont collect themselves. If you look at construction sites the crews have all been E-verified but you are lying to yourself if you think they are all legal.

luangtom

January 26th, 2011
4:49 pm

People whine and moan about the harshness of proposed legislation here in GA. Do they put as much effort behind getting the countries that the illegals come here from to ease their own laws for immigration? The border of southern Mexico is enforced strictly. Immigrants from Central and South America are turned away in droves daily. Those that are caught crossing are treated far more harshly than those on our border with Mexico. Why does not furor and railing against US immigration not get carried out against that of Mexico? All countries have a saturation-point. We are at it here now. We cannot support any more illegal immigrants. Our intrastructure is broken, our court=system is broken and our medical-system is broken. We cannot support more illegal immigrants.

Come on Man

January 26th, 2011
4:50 pm

Dear Carl: I’ll answer you; votes or at least future votes! The push is to make these people legal in a sense, so they can vote one day. It is all about the money. You explained it very well though. Again, enforce the law we have. Send them back on a plane. It will help the airlines out.

DOND

January 26th, 2011
4:57 pm

What is this about illegal aliens getting SSA benefits? Those that are elected will do anything to get a vote.

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zaq001

January 26th, 2011
5:00 pm

Let’s be honest…there is a problem with ILLEGAL aliens, and Georgians are not the only ones to be upset with this issue. Across America, people are complaining about issues associated with alien aliens, and the federal government (Congress, the Executive Branch, or the Judicial Branch) has yet to address those issues. So, let’s buck up, sit at the table like grown ups, and work to solve the issues.

Joe

January 26th, 2011
5:00 pm

Some of what I am reading here could easily be thought to have been written in 1850’s; except about a different racial group. The more things change the more Georgia stays the same. We don’t like anyone different than us. We can hide behind the need for secure borders, protect the job market, and other thinly disguised legalities, but we all know what this is. True Dat.

Mike

January 26th, 2011
5:00 pm

1. The American Indians were here 1st, so they should decide who gets to stay, anyone after them are ILLEGAL HYPOCRITES!
2. So I guess if Jesus was alive he couldn’t travel freely to spread his teachings!

toolittletoolate

January 26th, 2011
5:04 pm

This is like putting a bandaid on a severed artery or putting the red light after the child gets killed – should have done this years ago now it’s too late. Will do nothing but make the ecomony worse.

Charlie

January 26th, 2011
5:08 pm

Here, here! Another victory for the lobby representing private correctional facilities. Amazing how the right continues to use hate as an engine to drive their shadow agendas.

Arlo

January 26th, 2011
5:09 pm

Tony, I understand your concerns, but what about the costs associated with educating their children? What happens to US citizens when they are in an accident with an uninsured and unlicensed driver? Who pays for the extra law enforcement needed to fight the overrun of Mexican gangs and the crime associated with them? As far as a system to identify who is an actual citizen, do you not check their arrest record, drivers license or birth certificate? I carry my DL & proof of insurance everywhere, why can’t they?

John

January 26th, 2011
5:16 pm

Here are two great examples of illegals…
1) I was in a Gwinnett Courthouse about a year ago for a minor traffic ticket. All of us that could speak English were put on the backburner while the translator was brought in to facilitate the judges rendering for each of the illegals in the room that could not speak English. I can remember thinking how absurd it is that we must hire someone to translate and then put the group that cannot speak or write or native language ahead of the others.
2) Visit the DEA website and click on the most wanted of any field office. Guess what you will find?

Ga Native

January 26th, 2011
5:17 pm

Atlanta-born Latino and others,

First, I did not read any latino-bias in [most of] the ealier posts. Second, I actually prefer ‘undocumented’ to ‘illegal’ (personal bias i suppose). Moving beyond that, there IS a system in place for immigrant to come to and stay in this country legally.
I am in favor of legal immigration, of providing asylum for those [truly] persecuted and under fear of death/harm, and even to some extent of providing a means to expedite the process of citizenship for many of those hard-working individuals already here and classified as ‘illegal’. My criteria would be that they must work, be law abiding citizens, and not rely on goverment programs to support themselves.

That being said, coming into the country illegally, or willfully over-staying your visa, is, in fact, a crime. I think we must fully and vigorously enforce the laws that exist, identify the millions of deserving, hard working individuals here and help them attain citizenship, but all others should be deported immediately.

used and abused

January 26th, 2011
5:18 pm

I WORK FOR A LARGE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY HERE LOCALLY AS A SUPERVISOR FOR 18 YEARS. THE PAST FIVE YEARS I HAVE HAD ALEAST 12 DIFFERENT ILLEGALS COME AND GO . ALL OF THEM DID’NT HAVE A LICENSE YET DROVE TO WORK EVERYDAY AND I WAS UNSURE IF ANY OF THEM HAD ANY INSURANCE. I HAVE HAD SEVERAL OF THEM BRAG TO ME ABOUT ONLY PAYING AS MUCH AS $10.00 IN FED/STATE TAXES FOR THE YEAR AND GET A RETURN?THE COMPANY DOES A RANDOM AUDIT EVERY YET SOME HOW OVER LOOKS A FEW 100 OR SO ? AND PEOPLE JUST UNDERSTAND WHY THE STATE IS BROKE.JUST SAYING

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Michel Gomez

January 26th, 2011
5:24 pm

Indeed something does have to be done about crossing the borders, but not like these, every single Asian, Arabian, Hispanic, African American, European would have to be check, everyone with an ACCENT. Not whit people though, that would create issues because it would seem really racist.

ATF

January 26th, 2011
5:28 pm

Look. Even ol’ Newt said we aren’t going to send 11 million illegals back. We have to find a path to citizenship, at least for those who have been here for some years. Newt says it isn’t amnesty, but it is.

Actually, I just want progress on the whole mess. The billion dollar border fence is now determined to be a fiasco. Obama has beefed up border patrol and they are catching more, but no one even hints that it is enough. More is needed to stop those getting in here. We do need to enforce laws that deny jobs to illegals – that is what they come for so we need to stop giving it to them, but they need to be federal laws. Ramsey’s idea of putting the squeeze on the employers is the right idea – but it needs to be federal, not state. So we have some federal law but it needs teeth – consequences for employers who hire illegals. I am all for something like a fine of $1,000 for each day each illegal worked. Put those hiring illegals out of business. Make it a RICO kind of thing where the government can take and sell at auction their houses, cars, bank accounts, boats, anything they own, anything except the clothes on their backs and one extra pair of pants.

I believe Isakson/Saxby have worked on a bill to make getting farm workers easier while still keeping some control on them overstaying. So, if we can get better control of the border, make jobs for illegals harder to get while still getting needed farm workers, can we deal with the 11 million?

I like what ICE (is that the right acronym?) is doing in concentrating on illegals who are criminals – that is absolutely the right focus. But, what do we do about the other 10 million, some of whom have been here for many years, raised kids, bought homes, paid taxes, and are not criminals except in how they came here? Newt is right – we need a path to citizenship for the “good” illegals, however they may be defined.

Of course, since Newt may run for president, he may change his tune. But, I think he is right on this – we aren’t going to deport 11 million people.

Bob

January 26th, 2011
5:29 pm

Black 2:39, one way to improve border security without growing gov would be to bring home our troops that are guarding S. Korea’s border.

deegee

January 26th, 2011
5:29 pm

You folks that think that the problem will be solved by cracking down on employers must believe in the tooth fairy. Obama just spent the last 2 months crying uncle to Wall Street and big business. Who do you really think runs this country?

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
5:30 pm

The only people complaining about any Legislation regarding the Immigration Status and Illegals who have entered this country are: 1) the illegals 2) people making money off Illegals 3) elected officials who would not be in office without Illegals 4) attorneys and civil liberty employees.

You have to love the comment by someone( I will avoid calling them a bad name) who stated that when you call police for help do not get upset when they cannot come right away because they are transporting illegals to federal prisons. Now folks that is so short sited and more lame brained than an illegal asking me if I speak spanish?!

For the person who stated that all of our European Ancestors were illegal please revisit history. Everyone who came here unless they were stowaways were listed on each ships manifest and more than likely had to enter an entry point to step forward into this country.

Time has come when we have seen our education system reach new lows because we have adjusted our learning minimums to pass along those who were not smart enough, learn enough, or try hard enough to get it. Do you think the Chinese or Japanese have adjusted their systems for others who have entered their education systems? NO. But boy, we have.

Has the Government entities adjusted their programs to fit others from other countries who have come here and never attempted to acclimate themselves to our language, systems or way of life?
Of course, you cannot go into any public facility and have multilanguage services offered. Let me ask you why should we pay for that service? We should not. If you go to practically any country they will not speak english unless you are in a tourist location where they want your money. Go somewhere and get off the tourist attractions and try to communicate with someone, and they will look at you like you are from another solar system and they will not go get someone who speaks english for you to translate.

Our two biggest countries creating this mass entrance of illegals is Mexico and Cuba. Both of those countries have leaderships that have promoted bad behavior and have allowed themselves to be overrun with corruption and that is the mentality they have brough to this country. I know what you will say: A small minority of those people are bad, and most are good hard working people.
Well, that small minority is breeding and growing and it is ruing it for everyone else, as for the larger supposedly nicer majority, do your homework, get your paperwork in order before entering this country and stop wasting our tax dollars on supporting a nation through dollars earned here and money wired back to mexico.

Show me your papers please

January 26th, 2011
5:30 pm

It is about time. Let’s prosecute this illegal behavior immediately.

Bob

January 26th, 2011
5:33 pm

The story says that opponents of the bill also believe e-verify is unconstitutional. So I guess we are not allowed to guard our borders and cannot discriminate between legal and illegal when it comes to hiring. People say that employers should be fined for using illegals, but if it is up to progressives, employers can’t check.

deegee

January 26th, 2011
5:34 pm

Arizona faces a $1.2 billion deficit in the coming year. They have lost 300,000 jobs since the recession began. If their ethnic cleansing law was so wonderful, why are they still gushing red ink?

sad_georgian

January 26th, 2011
5:34 pm

the comments i’m reading sound strikingly familiar to the propaganda of the Nazi’s

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
5:37 pm

deegee,

Because the remaining illegal in Arizona never pay for anything and 20 years of debt is hard to make up for in less than 16 months of active legislation.

Charlie

January 26th, 2011
5:37 pm

I love how Americans today like to pretend that all of their ancestors and relatives went past Ellis Island. Whenever minorities catch on to the hustle, it’s time to change the rules. A lot of your grandparents were “anchor babies”.

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
5:41 pm

Charlie,

How about mine who were full blooded Indians.? My ancestors never got any help and we made it fine. You got to love those who think because their ancestors were brought here as servants they “owed” something. Does anyone think somewhere in the long ancestry they did have family members who were serfs, servants or slaves? They came in every shape and color.

CD

January 26th, 2011
5:43 pm

the difference in those “anchor babies” and todays illegal immigrant babies is simple:…… those arriving at Ellis Island entered LEGALLY.

Bob

January 26th, 2011
5:43 pm

Securing the border is a great goal and the nation has added several thousand Border Patrol agents to do the job of controlling illegal border crossings. However, thousands of those newly authorized agents have yet to be hired or are in training before they can be deployed. Another problem, as I learned in a debate of Senate candidates in Arizona, is that about 40%f the illegal aliens came here legally (by plane, car, walking across border to shop) but have overstayed their authorization (some by many years). We do need to know who is here illegaly and penalize employers who hire them. E-verify is one method of making sure that only legal immigrants and American citizens get jobs here.

Adolf

January 26th, 2011
5:45 pm

1. The cheap plywood/ drywall Home recognized as CAPITAL by Banks is done, the world is onto the SCAM!
2. All you’re left with is to try to INNOVATE & how can a BACKWARDS “RED” state compete with China/ India etc.

deegee

January 26th, 2011
5:47 pm

Truth, why don’t you revisit history? During the mass emigration from Europe the large trans-ocean liners were eager to fill up their steerage with poor, Irish, German, Polish, and Italian immigrants. The US encouraged poor, uneducated farmers from Europe to come settle the midwest and claim their twenty acres and a mule. They didn’t have to have a sponsor, apply for a visa and wait 6 years. They bought a ticket, braved the elements, debarked and made a new life. Thank God for them. Mexican immigrants have been crossing the border and working in the fields and factories for over 70 years. Thank God for them. It’s time we gave them the right to live and work legally.

sad_georgian

January 26th, 2011
5:50 pm

anyone against illegal immigration should consider the affects of deporting every single illegal alien. anyone making less than $50k per year is gonna feel an awful pinch of inflation, mostly in commodity products, meats and vegetables will sky rocket, have fun paying a lot more for food.

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
5:52 pm

@degee:

“Who do you really think runs this country?”

How about the FED, CFR, Bilderbergers, the UN, amongst other Communists, Socialists, and Unions. Does that about cover it?

Heather

January 26th, 2011
5:54 pm

Does anyone seem to recall that immigration reform was all set to move forward just a few years ago? However, once a certain conservative block of the public found out that bill mentioned amenesty and paying a fine for being illegal, all hell broke loose. The leglislators were flooded with calls of angry voters and the bill died. A compromise of some sort would have been better than what we have now, which is absolutely nothing.

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
5:56 pm

@deegee, who said ” It’s time we gave them the right to live and work legally.”

Uhhh, we have, did and are. It’s called applying for citizenship, standing in line, waiting your turn and assimilating to become an American, LEGALLY.

The Nerd

January 26th, 2011
5:57 pm

I for one that I’m going to expose the republicans for what they really are: RACIST! If they really going to make that immigration law “Arizona style”, Georgia would, no, WILL become a police state.

The Nerd

January 26th, 2011
5:59 pm

I don’t care what the rest of you have to say, buy I still think that law will set racism back 50 years! Nobody, repeat, NOBODY likes a racist, especially the republicans!

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azileretsis

January 26th, 2011
6:07 pm

this legislation is a net that would catch legal citizens. wasn’t ga a penal colony? people used to have to force people to come to the state. where is the reason in the madness?

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
6:08 pm

@The Nerd….

Darn, and I thought La Raza was such a wonderful and lawful group of people. Have you seen the placards these people hold up to ‘protest’ their ‘ill’ treatment by these laws? “American’d don’t belong here. GO back to Europe” etc…?

How exactly does enforcing the law effect racism? This sounds like a non-sensical, socialist and typically leftist liberal ideology. Why even have laws if they aren’t going to be enforced?

Why don’t we just really open the borders and let EVERYONE from Haiti, Mexico, Cuba and scores of other nations just drop themselves off on our shores and instantly become citizens? Sounds like a great idea until we hear you screaming bloody murder about how you can’t find a job and what’s left of your neighborhood looks, smells and sounds like a slum.

woodie

January 26th, 2011
6:10 pm

That part about ‘encourage an illegal alien’ isn’t going to pass muster. It’s quite enough to validate their legal status, it’s another thing to lock up their legal friends in the bargain.

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
6:10 pm

@SisterEliza who says “this legislation is a net that would catch legal citizens”

How is this, considering any legal citizen can easily prove they are legal? Me thinks you protest too much because your lackies in Washington won’t be ablt to hold office for too much longer when the LAW is actually enforced.

Charlie

January 26th, 2011
6:11 pm

Re: The Truth Hurts

Today’s African-Americans are decendants of a group of people who were purposefully broken: separated from their culture, their homes, their religion, their history; families and family structures purposefully destroyed, men emasculated, mothers, wives, and daughters raped. Then you take those people, who were illiterate for generations because it was illegal to teach them to read, landless because they could not own property, and who were purposefully spiritually broken and bred according to principles for breeding and raising horses and livestock, and you release them. Freed the slaves! Hooray! Except they had no money, no property to build wealth upon, no concept of education, no knowledge of their history to draw pride and spiritual strength from.

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
6:12 pm

@TheNerd. Will BECOME a police state? The tiny shreds of the remnants of this once great country are already a Police State. Did you just wake up from an 11 year stupor? Been to an airport lately? Which part of a ‘violation of the 4th amendment’ didn’t you catch?

blue dog

January 26th, 2011
6:18 pm

This bill will cause the county jails to overflow, compromising the counties law enforcement’s ability to arrest and house the ‘regular’ criminals. If they can’t work…they still have to feed their family..what will they do. Robberies and burglarize will overwhelm us. Better have a gun loaded…a good guard dog and alarm system…and that still may not be enough. It’s the feds job…whenever they get around to it.

blue dog

January 26th, 2011
6:20 pm

BTW

“when you ain’t got nothing’, you got nothing’ to lose…

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
6:23 pm

@Charlie: Sorry Charlie, you actually perpetuate this situation by kow-towing to their racist and self flagellating nature by calling them “African-Americans”. They are either Americans or they are not. They are called blacks, similarly to how they call caucasians ‘whites’ (or craker, or white devil or all the opther Liberal name callings).

What should have happened is that they should have all been send back home when the Emancipation Proclamation was adopted. Then we wouldn’t have this problem of Blacks hating whites for something that no one alive today had anythign to do with.

Blacks continue to be poor, ‘unedumacated’, lazy etc..because they refuse to get off their rear ends and do something productive in society. Publik Skool is FREE and they can’t get an education because they dont want an education. They just want to sit around and collect welfare (socialism) and blame their problems on others.

If one single, so-called “Afro-can Amerikan” can make it big in this society (Bill Cosby, Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas), this proves you completely wrong and off-base. You’re simply spewing the socially engineered crapola that you’ve been spoon fed by the NAACP, the traitors in congress, the current P.O.S. in office, and the mainstream media.

People have free-will and a brain. They should use them or suffer the consequences. It’s amazing what various Blacks have achieved that took responsibility for temselves and their future instead of whining and crying like the spoiled little criminal brats that they are.

Sorry dude, you’ve just been thoroughly ‘tooled’.

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
6:24 pm

Charlie,

So you are telling me that practically anyone living today, who by 1970 had schools intergrated, equal opportunities for education at every level is owed something? You are out of your mind. I have sat by others of every race, color and creed and we were all educated the same way and yet now I am suppose to support them because of something that happened to All of our ancestors somewhere along the line? What an idiot. That is the problem, we are suppose to give free stuff to everyone, anytime, anywherer and these illegals have taken our system an used it up.

We are broke, we are tired of footing the bill, we are tired of giving second chances. We cannot afford to give first chances to those who do not follow the rules and the laws.

I would be more than happy to give someone a chance to come here and prosper, but first they need to enlist in one of fine military services and serve for 5 years, prove they love this country instead of some red and green flag. Then if they cut it let them live here, but do not bring along the carpet bagger family members to suck the remaining juice out of the bottle.

You folks defending illegals do not get it, you are the minority and you are losing this battle daily.

Turn your tube on sometime and catch an episode of the first 48 from Miami or Houston and see who is doing all the killing and crime, illegals who speak not a word of english and we are spending billions of dollars to solve, prosecute and convict these animals of various crimes.

You lose, now go pick up another left leaning liberal agenda to harp on, your last one( Global Warming) turned out to be a pack of lies too.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
6:24 pm

The Nerd? Oh, the irony. He can’t even put together a sentence.

Brad

January 26th, 2011
6:25 pm

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/conservatives-fear-center-brain/

Hesitate & Die

January 26th, 2011
6:25 pm

To: Shoot Last

Looks like you need to spend a day as an ILLEGAL
1. waiting in the cold for work!
2. getting paid “chicken feed”
3. working your Arse off
4. Looks like the ILLEGALS are living the American FARSE to me, they fell for the RUSE of the promised land LOL

After this you’ll be the 1st to shoot yourself, anyone that complains about their lifestyle dosen’t really work for a living!

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
6:27 pm

Like I said earlier, the only ones upset over Immigration Enforcement is the Illegals themselves, the folks who make money off these illegals or the politicians who need their illegal votes to promote their agendas, and the the Civil Liberty attorneys who see a dollar in everything.

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
6:31 pm

Hesitate and Die,

No one has forced anyone to come here and work, that was their own option and choice. If they do not like it they can always pack up the pickup, steal another one and head back across the border.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
6:31 pm

The Truth Hurts, I have seen some legal citizens upset over the enforcement. It’s pretty sad, actually. People need to learn the difference between legal and illegal.

Brad

January 26th, 2011
6:31 pm

Truth, you give new meaning to the term “ignorant”.

Hesitate & Die

January 26th, 2011
6:35 pm

To: The Truth hurts….Where?

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
6:35 pm

If you are legal then you have earned the right to be here. But as someone who is directly involved with benefits from SS and immediate agencies, the growing number of illegal pregnant women coming over in their final tri-mester and dropping offspring to gain citizenship through ‘latching” has become an epedemic.

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
6:39 pm

Brad,

You are a prime example of a Liberal, you have no answers so you name call without justification.

Hesitate and Die….Where? The original starting point of your journey. That is where. Out of sight out of mind. I do not see the leading economies in the world besides the U.S. allow others in without proper documentation. Have you traveled to any European country or Japan in the past 12 months? I have and people want to complain about a pat down at the airport here? What a joke to entering one of these countries on any given day.

deegee

January 26th, 2011
6:40 pm

Truth wouldn’t know the truth if it bit him/her in their bigoted arse.

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
6:40 pm

@Hesitate & Die

If that was directed at ‘Shoot First…”:

They should be experiencing the 1-4 you mention precisely because they are ILLEGAL. They aren’t supposed to be here, they aren’t supposed to be working, and those that ‘hire’ them under the table do so to ‘exploit’ them, which is why they get paid “Chicken feed”. I know, the truth does indeed some slowly for those that have no common sense and are Liberal minded.

And where/when did I complain about my ‘lifestyle’? I didn’t. This is another typical liberal name calling tactic that comes about when you have nothing intelligible or intelligent to say. So you attack the messenger. I have a good lifestyle, and a Job that I worked hard to get because I’m legal and qualified. There is no one who doesn’t work for a living except those that inherited money or won the lottery.

As for shooting myself. Only a godless fool would think such things. The last thing I’d ever do (I know, you can’t stand it) would be to give my soul to Satan. Sounds like you’ve got at least one foot in hell already.

Enjoy YOUR ‘lifestyle’, since it seems you really don’t have one or you wouldn’t prove yourself to be capable of anything but nonsense. Watch some more of that TV and listen to more of those lies from Congress and the ‘One’ (false prophet). If they repeat the lies long enough….the laugh is on you.

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
6:41 pm

Brad, posting a strong leaning leftist liberal agenda hatchet job, real original to support an argument that is like trying to stop the niagra falls with a bucket and a spoon.

Get real.

SawBe

January 26th, 2011
6:42 pm

Nonsense Jim. You can agree or disagree with the policy but this kind of mischaracterized attack is incivil, unfair and partisan. If you want to be part of the debate put on your big boy pants and be serious. If you just want to be a partisan hack…keep it up.

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
6:45 pm

deegeee, nice name calling, once again your agrument is non existent and without the help of your left wing liberal nuts you LOSE the right to keep the lLLEGALS on the voting registers across the country.

Why do you think they Democrats were so against the voter ID Law? It would take them out of power and has proven it does in state elections.

carlos

January 26th, 2011
6:45 pm

I thing all those who believe that ilegal emigration its bad is because they are ignorant in the blibe it say tha ignorance of you end up destroyen their own country and ignorance begins whito our own government because they can not do anything or work to be attacking innocent people but GOD looks everything

-A.

January 26th, 2011
6:49 pm

Working in the domestic violence field, I have seen undocumented women abused, battered, trafficked and victimized. Some of these women come into the country legally but then their abuser lets their visa status lapse as a way to control them; sometimes, they don’t even know that they’ve become undocumented. Some of these women are trafficked into the country unwillingly. These women’s batterers have already inculcated the fear of the police into them, convincing them that, were she to call the police, SHE would be the one taken to jail, SHE would be the one separated from her children. (Keep in mind that her batterer could be a U.S. citizen.) A bill such as the one Rep. Ramsey is putting forth will only serve to solidify and confirm the fear these women have in reaching out for help. Women are ashamed and afraid to discuss domestic violence as it is. A victim’s undocumented status just adds to that fear of speaking up and seeking help. Were this bill to pass, I would expect undocumented women to go underground when dealing with their abuse, leading to more deaths as a result of domestic violence. Georgia is currently in the top 10 states for the number of women killed by men. Do we really want to move up on that list?

I understand that people have strong opinions about illegal immigration. I’m not trying to convince anyone to go one way or another on that subject. I’m only saying that we really need to think about the unintended consequences a bill like this would have. It’s not fair for a domestic violence victim to be re-victimized by the system: for her to finally work up the courage to leave her batterer only to be confronted with the fact that she CAN’T leave her batterer because of her undocumented status, to realize that if she went to the cops to find safety, instead she could possibly be arrested and put into deportation proceedings. The system does need to be fixed, yes; however, for the sake of these women’s lives, I urge you not to create a fix by attempting to build a culture of fear for undocumented immigrants – which is what Rep. Ramsey’s proposed bill would do. There exists enough fear already in these women’s lives at the hands of their batterer.

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
6:50 pm

carlos,

Yeah, thats the ticket, bring God into a discussion. When many folks across this nation have seen their school taxes go up, police services taxes, property taxes, income taxes go up and their charitable contributions and church contributions go down because we are having to stiphen the illegals and other do nothings in this country. Not gonna buy that carlos. Try peddling that trash elsewhere.

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
6:51 pm

@Carlos:

You should really ‘read’ the Bible and understand it before you go thinking you’re somehow ’special’. God says to “Obey man’s law” that means: don’t come here illegally. It also says that “a man should not lean on his own understanding”. Perhaps you should have taken the ‘literacy’ test more seriously when you came to this country. Did you do it legally, or are you feeling ‘persecuted’ by those who don’t want illegals overrunning the country?

Hesitate & Die

January 26th, 2011
6:54 pm

To Shoot Last
I see you’re complain about your ‘lifestyle’ again without compassion as EXPECTED, you’re a messenger..LOL.
“I have a good lifestyle” (WE KNOW), and a Job that you worked hard to get(DESERVE LOL) because you’re “legal” and “qualified”( & CAN’T BE REPLACED.. WE KNOW)
Look like we have a perfect “equilibrium” ALREADY as each ILLEGAL knows their CLASS!
anyone for musical chairs?

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
6:56 pm

A..

I get your point, but let me say this upfront and without any disrespect to you and the job you do.

I have to first consider my family, my extended family and my friends before I can even start to worry about anyone else. As a family man that is my first responsibilty. We teach our family to give to others less fortunate and we practice what we preach to them whenever possible. We serve our communites first, but to be brutally honest with you, most of us have just become numb to the entire poor illegal concerns. We all have seen family members struggle in this economy, we have helped our families, it is just too much of a burden to see billions of our money being sent back to Mexico while our schools, hospitals, and law enforcement agencies workers are underpaid and underfunded due to the folks here illegally.

Keep up your hard work.

Doug Craig

January 26th, 2011
6:56 pm

guys what do you think would happen if 1 million Mexicans packed up and left.The Housing market would continue to go down because of all the empty housing . What we need is about 2 million more Mexicans to come over the border. it would create many jobs and help the housing market.
if you complain about the free ride the illegals are getting then i am going to complain about all you legal loafers. How many of you ride the government gravy train and have people like me pay for your child’s education in these government schools (I send my kids to private school so I pay the full amount ). Just about everyone who sends their kids to government are in the same boat as the Illegals. So if you complain about illegals and you don’t pay the full cost of your child’s education you are a hypocrite.

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
6:57 pm

@A who says “…sometimes, they don’t even know that they’ve become undocumented..”

Ignorance of the law is not a defense. And what on earth do “Battered women” have to do with this discussion? Nothing !
Being battered is always partially the fault of the woman (or man) who stays in that situation. In the case of illegals, they are even more culpable as typically the one doing the battering is also an illegal.

You also state “… I would expect undocumented women to go underground when dealing with their abuse”. Exactly, that’s what we want them to do, go underground back to their own country. There are only two types of people to blame in this ’situation’, the illegals themselves you put themselvs in the situation and those that cover for them. That would be you.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
6:57 pm

It’s obvious Carlos is illegal.

Corey

January 26th, 2011
6:59 pm

Jim T @ 3:56 PM, your posted comment makes my point so succintly.

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
6:59 pm

@Doung Craig who says …”what do you think would happen if 1 million Mexicans packed up and left.”

I think there would be dancing in the streets and more jobs for “real” citizens. I’m not sure what cracker jack prize you got today, but your logic defies all reason. More illegals will not increase housing prices, nor will it magically create more jobs. Man, liberals really do have mental issues. No wonder the country has gone to hell.

The Truth Hurts

January 26th, 2011
7:02 pm

Doug,

You need to visit south Florida and see what ILLEGALS or Mexicans/ or Illegals or Cubans/ or Illegals or Haitians do to a community when the jobs dry up or plant shuts down. They destroy the houses, rip everything out and never pay a dime and walk away from mortgages.

Go to your nearest Money Gram store and just watch what happens on pay day. The money flying out the door across the borders would practically end most states deficits in a few short months.

Hesitate & Die

January 26th, 2011
7:05 pm

To Shoot Last
I guess you’re right SLAVING in the Orange, Tomato Fields etc. is a “JOB” every “AMERICAN Illegal” wants & strives for!

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
7:06 pm

@The Truth Hurts….

Keep up the good work man. It’s amazing (not) the lack of common sense here.
I’ve had enough for the night, got better things to do…like continue to plan for our escape overseas soon.

Enjoyed watching (reading).

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
7:08 pm

@Hesitate & Die:

Huh? Are you insane? I’m a programmer. The only slaving away I do is in my own garden.
Just what is an “American Illegal” anyway? Sounds like you’re the illegal who can’t stand that fact that we absolutely kicked your arses out of the Southwest.

You’d almost be funny if you weren’t so sad. Have fun in your little world.

carlos

January 26th, 2011
7:13 pm

we a I am born in this country my father worked very hard in the military for this country was a strong country but my country is invading countryes and nobody say anything to you only if we invade inoccent people if they espeak

Hesitate & Die

January 26th, 2011
7:15 pm

To Shoot Last
you’re a programmer( IMPRESSIVE, created any good programs lately, i seriously doubt it).

what can’t I say to this SELF CENTERED quote “The only slaving away I do is in my own garden”
it speaks for itself!
I guess you’d taste like “Kobe Beef” if u were on the menu!

Thomas

January 26th, 2011
7:18 pm

Another monkey see monkey do bill, I doubt there is an original thought in this Legislature, I can hear hot air pouring out of the Gold Dome.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

January 26th, 2011
7:37 pm

I have a good career. I am not in direct competition with mexico’s dregs who come across the border(yes, dregs..mexican MDs are not wading across the rio grande, it’s the ones who can’t even compete in MEXICO).

What I do resent, and yes I project this on every illegal alien and their horrible vile liberal enablers, is paying for the education of their little kiddos, their healthcare, and other social services. And do not dare tell me they don’t cost billions..it’s well documented they are a drain on social services.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
7:39 pm

Jeffrey, what type of band is it, first of all?

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
7:39 pm

@Hesitate & Die:

“Yawn”:

Obviously I am right in my assesment of your ’status’. Actually yes, the program I am currently writing involves over 16 MIllion accounts with one of the largest shipping companies in the world. It allows upper management to see detailed financial data on all their sales people, account managers, customer accounts to enable them to generate better business intelligence to tell them what is/isn’t working so they can adjust strategies towards more profits.

On the side, I’m creating another application to help locate and report ALL Illegal aliens to the appropriate local authorities for immediate deportaion.

Your ’speaks for itself’ comment makes absolutely no sense. You act as if you’ve somehow pulled one over on me. You really need to get a life and grow up.

Those who Hesitate in logic, Die by the sword of truth.

Have a nice day in that little world of yours. I laugh, and flatulate, in your general direction. Nothing like the smell of rotting Kobe beef. You should know Enjoy the waif.

Trey

January 26th, 2011
7:39 pm

Oh, jeez, wrong blog.

Hesitate & Die

January 26th, 2011
7:49 pm

To BLAH (i’m important)
“”"”"”"”"””Actually yes, the program I am currently writing involves over 16 MIllion accounts with one of the largest shipping companies in the world. It allows upper management to see detailed financial data on all their sales people, account managers, customer accounts to enable them to generate better business intelligence to tell them what is/isn’t working so they can adjust strategies towards more profits.”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”

YAWN!!, you’d be better off saying you “shoot at cans” for living! Please go FART in your pick-up & DO NOT wind the windows down!
You’ll the get FULL the smell what you’re full of…….

Shoot first...

January 26th, 2011
7:53 pm

@Hesitate & Die

I know. It just pisses you off to no end doesn’t it? Someone whom you can’t hold a candle to without it blowing up in your face.

Trying to put words into my mouth, or insinuate “importance” is obviously a personal failing you might consider therapy for.

I love to watch people like you squirm.

Bye….

Trey

January 26th, 2011
8:00 pm

We really need to enforce illegal immigration laws. Those who don’t want to enforce them are free to move to another country and damage it. This is a land of laws and laws must be obeyed.

RickR

January 26th, 2011
8:41 pm

”The bill also creates criminal penalties for any individual that encourages an illegal alien to come to Georgia or that transports or harbors an illegal alien once they arrive.”

That is current Federal law.

As I Gather

January 26th, 2011
10:57 pm

1) Being in the US without proper documentation is a CIVIL violation, not a criminal one. So, if you parked illegal – you too could be labeled “illegal.” Crime and violation are different things.
2) This would create criminals when US born children of an undocumented immigrant remain with their parent/s. Or when a citizen spouse remains with undocumented mate. When a food bank feeds a hunger person. Some how I don’t think Jesus would approve of Georgia’s lawmakers endorsing this kind of legislation. Need I continue?
3) Hitler created laws of this nature. And you will recall – everything he did was LEGAL.
So did Southern lawmakers of the 1860s to 1960s – they were called “Jim Crow” laws.

Now Georgians are standing by while those promoting an agenda of hate (again) repeat the same behavior. This time targeting those with brown skin. Do we really want to go down that path?

Fire Eater

January 27th, 2011
4:34 am

The same types behind the third world invasion of America are likewise behind the current attacks on the Second Amendment. I believe the two issues are related – third world immigrants OVERWHELMINGLY support gun control, oppose free speech and are generally politically hostile to the traditional American people.

Strong laws in red states against illegal aliens would force them to go to blue states for their Democrat-guaranteed freebies, further overburdening their finances, schools and prisons – fit punishment for their voting habits.

A real conservative commentator was right when he asked the question (on immigration): If we had to take in one million foreigners, which group would cause fewer problems for Americans – Somalians or Swedes?

It is really not “immigration,” it is an INVASION.

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January 27th, 2011
5:48 am

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As I Gather

January 27th, 2011
5:50 am

Those US citizens who provide guns to Mexico fuel the violence among drug cartels and against innocent people. Those US citizens who buy and use illegal drugs create the DEMAND. Most undocumented people want to abide US laws and live in peace. Few want to interact with the government in any way.

Politicians who want to nullify the 14th Amendment with the 10th Amendment seem to want to see their name in the media. While creating laws that will cost Georgian taxpayers much in legal fees. Taxpayers include those labeled “illegal.”

Go to the Southern Poverty Law Center website and look at the Extremist and Hate groups then connect the dots to Georgia.

Nerm

January 27th, 2011
9:15 am

You people are going to be really upset when amnesty passes aren’t you? Those who say it won’t happen are the same ones who said Obama wouldn’t get elected and Palin would be our VP (yuk, I just threw up in my mouth).

Lucas

January 27th, 2011
11:31 am

As far as enforcing this goes without expanding the government, well that is simple. We have roughly between 120,000 and 160,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and its neighboring countries. Bring them home and put them on the border. It would actually lower expenses versus waging a continued campaign in the middle east. That would allow 12 US soldiers to be stationed on an eight hour shield on every mile of both Canadian and Mexican border territory (Though the Canadian side could receive less enforcement as the number of illegal crossings there are substancially less.). If you wanted to be hardcore about it then you could issue the order to treat them as hostile foreign invaders though that would hardly be necessary unless you wanted to problem to stop very quickly.

citizenbychoice

January 27th, 2011
12:27 pm

Yes señor, I understand why you are so mad at me. You are unemployed. I came here last year with nothing and I even didn’t finish high school in my country, but I managed to get a job and do it right. While you were facing foreclosure, I bought the house next to you, a brand new truck and brought my family so I can give them a better future. I remember there used to be a country in which this was enough to get respect from my neighbors. I still believe in that country, but its people has forgotten that they should not take anything for granted. You don’t deserve this country anymore. Until you understand that immigrants -legal or illegal- are people with hopes, aspirations, and contribute to our progress, you will be unhappy. No matter how many illegals you send back home.

Sweet Pea

January 27th, 2011
12:59 pm

Such BS. They have no intention of passing this bill because rural businesses don’t want it. The only purpose this serves is as a blurb on Republican political mail.

Michael

January 27th, 2011
2:16 pm

The “harboring” criminal penalty sounds so Anne Frank-ish.

Michael

January 27th, 2011
2:20 pm

I didn’t really “earn” the right to be here. I was just born.

Oh yes, I'm the great pretender......

January 27th, 2011
4:46 pm

@georgian

January 26th, 2011
1:45 pm
Hmmm. This would make our poultry industry and our farmers criminals.

So be it…….Illegal is Illegal……are you an advocate for lawlessness?

If this illegal immigrant bill passes, watch what you say to strangers

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