If this illegal immigrant bill passes, watch what you say to strangers
Legislation just introduced by state Rep. Matt Ramsey, R-Peachtree City, to control illegal immigration is getting some scrutiny.
From my AJC colleage Jeremy Redmon:
Similar to Arizona’s controversial new law, Ramsey’s bill would require state and local law enforcement officers to investigate the immigration status of people they reasonably suspect of being in the country illegally. It would also authorize police to arrest them if they are in the country illegally and transport them to a federal jail….
Ramsey’s bill would also require private businesses with more than five employees to use a federal program called E-Verify. That program seeks to verify that newly hired employees are eligible to work in the United States. A coalition of businesses and immigrant rights groups is suing to stop a similar law in Arizona that requires all businesses to use E-Verify, arguing that it is unconstitutional.
Not exactly pioneering concepts. But below is an excerpt from the press release issued by Ramsey, describing his intent – the legislation itself has yet to be posted online:
”The bill also creates criminal penalties for any individual that encourages an illegal alien to come to Georgia or that transports or harbors an illegal alien once they arrive.”
If this passes, do not talk to strangers — at home or abroad — about what damn fine weather we have here in Georgia, or make reference to how friendly and hospitable this state’s people are. Under no circumstances are you to hum about moonlight coming through the pines. You could find yourself doing time.
Oh – and Greyhound? Call your lobbyist.
Hat tip to Jason Pye on this one.
- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider
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blue dog
January 26th, 2011
6:20 pm
BTW
“when you ain’t got nothing’, you got nothing’ to lose…
Shoot first...
January 26th, 2011
6:23 pm
@Charlie: Sorry Charlie, you actually perpetuate this situation by kow-towing to their racist and self flagellating nature by calling them “African-Americans”. They are either Americans or they are not. They are called blacks, similarly to how they call caucasians ‘whites’ (or craker, or white devil or all the opther Liberal name callings).
What should have happened is that they should have all been send back home when the Emancipation Proclamation was adopted. Then we wouldn’t have this problem of Blacks hating whites for something that no one alive today had anythign to do with.
Blacks continue to be poor, ‘unedumacated’, lazy etc..because they refuse to get off their rear ends and do something productive in society. Publik Skool is FREE and they can’t get an education because they dont want an education. They just want to sit around and collect welfare (socialism) and blame their problems on others.
If one single, so-called “Afro-can Amerikan” can make it big in this society (Bill Cosby, Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas), this proves you completely wrong and off-base. You’re simply spewing the socially engineered crapola that you’ve been spoon fed by the NAACP, the traitors in congress, the current P.O.S. in office, and the mainstream media.
People have free-will and a brain. They should use them or suffer the consequences. It’s amazing what various Blacks have achieved that took responsibility for temselves and their future instead of whining and crying like the spoiled little criminal brats that they are.
Sorry dude, you’ve just been thoroughly ‘tooled’.
The Truth Hurts
January 26th, 2011
6:24 pm
Charlie,
So you are telling me that practically anyone living today, who by 1970 had schools intergrated, equal opportunities for education at every level is owed something? You are out of your mind. I have sat by others of every race, color and creed and we were all educated the same way and yet now I am suppose to support them because of something that happened to All of our ancestors somewhere along the line? What an idiot. That is the problem, we are suppose to give free stuff to everyone, anytime, anywherer and these illegals have taken our system an used it up.
We are broke, we are tired of footing the bill, we are tired of giving second chances. We cannot afford to give first chances to those who do not follow the rules and the laws.
I would be more than happy to give someone a chance to come here and prosper, but first they need to enlist in one of fine military services and serve for 5 years, prove they love this country instead of some red and green flag. Then if they cut it let them live here, but do not bring along the carpet bagger family members to suck the remaining juice out of the bottle.
You folks defending illegals do not get it, you are the minority and you are losing this battle daily.
Turn your tube on sometime and catch an episode of the first 48 from Miami or Houston and see who is doing all the killing and crime, illegals who speak not a word of english and we are spending billions of dollars to solve, prosecute and convict these animals of various crimes.
You lose, now go pick up another left leaning liberal agenda to harp on, your last one( Global Warming) turned out to be a pack of lies too.
Trey
January 26th, 2011
6:24 pm
The Nerd? Oh, the irony. He can’t even put together a sentence.
Brad
January 26th, 2011
6:25 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/conservatives-fear-center-brain/
Hesitate & Die
January 26th, 2011
6:25 pm
To: Shoot Last
Looks like you need to spend a day as an ILLEGAL
1. waiting in the cold for work!
2. getting paid “chicken feed”
3. working your Arse off
4. Looks like the ILLEGALS are living the American FARSE to me, they fell for the RUSE of the promised land LOL
After this you’ll be the 1st to shoot yourself, anyone that complains about their lifestyle dosen’t really work for a living!
The Truth Hurts
January 26th, 2011
6:27 pm
Like I said earlier, the only ones upset over Immigration Enforcement is the Illegals themselves, the folks who make money off these illegals or the politicians who need their illegal votes to promote their agendas, and the the Civil Liberty attorneys who see a dollar in everything.
The Truth Hurts
January 26th, 2011
6:31 pm
Hesitate and Die,
No one has forced anyone to come here and work, that was their own option and choice. If they do not like it they can always pack up the pickup, steal another one and head back across the border.
Trey
January 26th, 2011
6:31 pm
The Truth Hurts, I have seen some legal citizens upset over the enforcement. It’s pretty sad, actually. People need to learn the difference between legal and illegal.
Brad
January 26th, 2011
6:31 pm
Truth, you give new meaning to the term “ignorant”.
Hesitate & Die
January 26th, 2011
6:35 pm
To: The Truth hurts….Where?
The Truth Hurts
January 26th, 2011
6:35 pm
If you are legal then you have earned the right to be here. But as someone who is directly involved with benefits from SS and immediate agencies, the growing number of illegal pregnant women coming over in their final tri-mester and dropping offspring to gain citizenship through ‘latching” has become an epedemic.
The Truth Hurts
January 26th, 2011
6:39 pm
Brad,
You are a prime example of a Liberal, you have no answers so you name call without justification.
Hesitate and Die….Where? The original starting point of your journey. That is where. Out of sight out of mind. I do not see the leading economies in the world besides the U.S. allow others in without proper documentation. Have you traveled to any European country or Japan in the past 12 months? I have and people want to complain about a pat down at the airport here? What a joke to entering one of these countries on any given day.
deegee
January 26th, 2011
6:40 pm
Truth wouldn’t know the truth if it bit him/her in their bigoted arse.
Shoot first...
January 26th, 2011
6:40 pm
@Hesitate & Die
If that was directed at ‘Shoot First…”:
They should be experiencing the 1-4 you mention precisely because they are ILLEGAL. They aren’t supposed to be here, they aren’t supposed to be working, and those that ‘hire’ them under the table do so to ‘exploit’ them, which is why they get paid “Chicken feed”. I know, the truth does indeed some slowly for those that have no common sense and are Liberal minded.
And where/when did I complain about my ‘lifestyle’? I didn’t. This is another typical liberal name calling tactic that comes about when you have nothing intelligible or intelligent to say. So you attack the messenger. I have a good lifestyle, and a Job that I worked hard to get because I’m legal and qualified. There is no one who doesn’t work for a living except those that inherited money or won the lottery.
As for shooting myself. Only a godless fool would think such things. The last thing I’d ever do (I know, you can’t stand it) would be to give my soul to Satan. Sounds like you’ve got at least one foot in hell already.
Enjoy YOUR ‘lifestyle’, since it seems you really don’t have one or you wouldn’t prove yourself to be capable of anything but nonsense. Watch some more of that TV and listen to more of those lies from Congress and the ‘One’ (false prophet). If they repeat the lies long enough….the laugh is on you.
The Truth Hurts
January 26th, 2011
6:41 pm
Brad, posting a strong leaning leftist liberal agenda hatchet job, real original to support an argument that is like trying to stop the niagra falls with a bucket and a spoon.
Get real.
SawBe
January 26th, 2011
6:42 pm
Nonsense Jim. You can agree or disagree with the policy but this kind of mischaracterized attack is incivil, unfair and partisan. If you want to be part of the debate put on your big boy pants and be serious. If you just want to be a partisan hack…keep it up.
The Truth Hurts
January 26th, 2011
6:45 pm
deegeee, nice name calling, once again your agrument is non existent and without the help of your left wing liberal nuts you LOSE the right to keep the lLLEGALS on the voting registers across the country.
Why do you think they Democrats were so against the voter ID Law? It would take them out of power and has proven it does in state elections.
carlos
January 26th, 2011
6:45 pm
I thing all those who believe that ilegal emigration its bad is because they are ignorant in the blibe it say tha ignorance of you end up destroyen their own country and ignorance begins whito our own government because they can not do anything or work to be attacking innocent people but GOD looks everything
-A.
January 26th, 2011
6:49 pm
Working in the domestic violence field, I have seen undocumented women abused, battered, trafficked and victimized. Some of these women come into the country legally but then their abuser lets their visa status lapse as a way to control them; sometimes, they don’t even know that they’ve become undocumented. Some of these women are trafficked into the country unwillingly. These women’s batterers have already inculcated the fear of the police into them, convincing them that, were she to call the police, SHE would be the one taken to jail, SHE would be the one separated from her children. (Keep in mind that her batterer could be a U.S. citizen.) A bill such as the one Rep. Ramsey is putting forth will only serve to solidify and confirm the fear these women have in reaching out for help. Women are ashamed and afraid to discuss domestic violence as it is. A victim’s undocumented status just adds to that fear of speaking up and seeking help. Were this bill to pass, I would expect undocumented women to go underground when dealing with their abuse, leading to more deaths as a result of domestic violence. Georgia is currently in the top 10 states for the number of women killed by men. Do we really want to move up on that list?
I understand that people have strong opinions about illegal immigration. I’m not trying to convince anyone to go one way or another on that subject. I’m only saying that we really need to think about the unintended consequences a bill like this would have. It’s not fair for a domestic violence victim to be re-victimized by the system: for her to finally work up the courage to leave her batterer only to be confronted with the fact that she CAN’T leave her batterer because of her undocumented status, to realize that if she went to the cops to find safety, instead she could possibly be arrested and put into deportation proceedings. The system does need to be fixed, yes; however, for the sake of these women’s lives, I urge you not to create a fix by attempting to build a culture of fear for undocumented immigrants – which is what Rep. Ramsey’s proposed bill would do. There exists enough fear already in these women’s lives at the hands of their batterer.
The Truth Hurts
January 26th, 2011
6:50 pm
carlos,
Yeah, thats the ticket, bring God into a discussion. When many folks across this nation have seen their school taxes go up, police services taxes, property taxes, income taxes go up and their charitable contributions and church contributions go down because we are having to stiphen the illegals and other do nothings in this country. Not gonna buy that carlos. Try peddling that trash elsewhere.
Shoot first...
January 26th, 2011
6:51 pm
@Carlos:
You should really ‘read’ the Bible and understand it before you go thinking you’re somehow ’special’. God says to “Obey man’s law” that means: don’t come here illegally. It also says that “a man should not lean on his own understanding”. Perhaps you should have taken the ‘literacy’ test more seriously when you came to this country. Did you do it legally, or are you feeling ‘persecuted’ by those who don’t want illegals overrunning the country?
Hesitate & Die
January 26th, 2011
6:54 pm
To Shoot Last
I see you’re complain about your ‘lifestyle’ again without compassion as EXPECTED, you’re a messenger..LOL.
“I have a good lifestyle” (WE KNOW), and a Job that you worked hard to get(DESERVE LOL) because you’re “legal” and “qualified”( & CAN’T BE REPLACED.. WE KNOW)
Look like we have a perfect “equilibrium” ALREADY as each ILLEGAL knows their CLASS!
anyone for musical chairs?
The Truth Hurts
January 26th, 2011
6:56 pm
A..
I get your point, but let me say this upfront and without any disrespect to you and the job you do.
I have to first consider my family, my extended family and my friends before I can even start to worry about anyone else. As a family man that is my first responsibilty. We teach our family to give to others less fortunate and we practice what we preach to them whenever possible. We serve our communites first, but to be brutally honest with you, most of us have just become numb to the entire poor illegal concerns. We all have seen family members struggle in this economy, we have helped our families, it is just too much of a burden to see billions of our money being sent back to Mexico while our schools, hospitals, and law enforcement agencies workers are underpaid and underfunded due to the folks here illegally.
Keep up your hard work.
Doug Craig
January 26th, 2011
6:56 pm
guys what do you think would happen if 1 million Mexicans packed up and left.The Housing market would continue to go down because of all the empty housing . What we need is about 2 million more Mexicans to come over the border. it would create many jobs and help the housing market.
if you complain about the free ride the illegals are getting then i am going to complain about all you legal loafers. How many of you ride the government gravy train and have people like me pay for your child’s education in these government schools (I send my kids to private school so I pay the full amount ). Just about everyone who sends their kids to government are in the same boat as the Illegals. So if you complain about illegals and you don’t pay the full cost of your child’s education you are a hypocrite.
Shoot first...
January 26th, 2011
6:57 pm
@A who says “…sometimes, they don’t even know that they’ve become undocumented..”
Ignorance of the law is not a defense. And what on earth do “Battered women” have to do with this discussion? Nothing !
Being battered is always partially the fault of the woman (or man) who stays in that situation. In the case of illegals, they are even more culpable as typically the one doing the battering is also an illegal.
You also state “… I would expect undocumented women to go underground when dealing with their abuse”. Exactly, that’s what we want them to do, go underground back to their own country. There are only two types of people to blame in this ’situation’, the illegals themselves you put themselvs in the situation and those that cover for them. That would be you.
Trey
January 26th, 2011
6:57 pm
It’s obvious Carlos is illegal.
Corey
January 26th, 2011
6:59 pm
Jim T @ 3:56 PM, your posted comment makes my point so succintly.
Shoot first...
January 26th, 2011
6:59 pm
@Doung Craig who says …”what do you think would happen if 1 million Mexicans packed up and left.”
I think there would be dancing in the streets and more jobs for “real” citizens. I’m not sure what cracker jack prize you got today, but your logic defies all reason. More illegals will not increase housing prices, nor will it magically create more jobs. Man, liberals really do have mental issues. No wonder the country has gone to hell.
The Truth Hurts
January 26th, 2011
7:02 pm
Doug,
You need to visit south Florida and see what ILLEGALS or Mexicans/ or Illegals or Cubans/ or Illegals or Haitians do to a community when the jobs dry up or plant shuts down. They destroy the houses, rip everything out and never pay a dime and walk away from mortgages.
Go to your nearest Money Gram store and just watch what happens on pay day. The money flying out the door across the borders would practically end most states deficits in a few short months.
Hesitate & Die
January 26th, 2011
7:05 pm
To Shoot Last
I guess you’re right SLAVING in the Orange, Tomato Fields etc. is a “JOB” every “AMERICAN Illegal” wants & strives for!
Shoot first...
January 26th, 2011
7:06 pm
@The Truth Hurts….
Keep up the good work man. It’s amazing (not) the lack of common sense here.
I’ve had enough for the night, got better things to do…like continue to plan for our escape overseas soon.
Enjoyed watching (reading).
Shoot first...
January 26th, 2011
7:08 pm
@Hesitate & Die:
Huh? Are you insane? I’m a programmer. The only slaving away I do is in my own garden.
Just what is an “American Illegal” anyway? Sounds like you’re the illegal who can’t stand that fact that we absolutely kicked your arses out of the Southwest.
You’d almost be funny if you weren’t so sad. Have fun in your little world.
carlos
January 26th, 2011
7:13 pm
we a I am born in this country my father worked very hard in the military for this country was a strong country but my country is invading countryes and nobody say anything to you only if we invade inoccent people if they espeak
Hesitate & Die
January 26th, 2011
7:15 pm
To Shoot Last
you’re a programmer( IMPRESSIVE, created any good programs lately, i seriously doubt it).
what can’t I say to this SELF CENTERED quote “The only slaving away I do is in my own garden”
it speaks for itself!
I guess you’d taste like “Kobe Beef” if u were on the menu!
Thomas
January 26th, 2011
7:18 pm
Another monkey see monkey do bill, I doubt there is an original thought in this Legislature, I can hear hot air pouring out of the Gold Dome.
TrishaDishaWarEagle
January 26th, 2011
7:37 pm
I have a good career. I am not in direct competition with mexico’s dregs who come across the border(yes, dregs..mexican MDs are not wading across the rio grande, it’s the ones who can’t even compete in MEXICO).
What I do resent, and yes I project this on every illegal alien and their horrible vile liberal enablers, is paying for the education of their little kiddos, their healthcare, and other social services. And do not dare tell me they don’t cost billions..it’s well documented they are a drain on social services.
Trey
January 26th, 2011
7:39 pm
Jeffrey, what type of band is it, first of all?
Shoot first...
January 26th, 2011
7:39 pm
@Hesitate & Die:
“Yawn”:
Obviously I am right in my assesment of your ’status’. Actually yes, the program I am currently writing involves over 16 MIllion accounts with one of the largest shipping companies in the world. It allows upper management to see detailed financial data on all their sales people, account managers, customer accounts to enable them to generate better business intelligence to tell them what is/isn’t working so they can adjust strategies towards more profits.
On the side, I’m creating another application to help locate and report ALL Illegal aliens to the appropriate local authorities for immediate deportaion.
Your ’speaks for itself’ comment makes absolutely no sense. You act as if you’ve somehow pulled one over on me. You really need to get a life and grow up.
Those who Hesitate in logic, Die by the sword of truth.
Have a nice day in that little world of yours. I laugh, and flatulate, in your general direction. Nothing like the smell of rotting Kobe beef. You should know
Enjoy the waif.
Trey
January 26th, 2011
7:39 pm
Oh, jeez, wrong blog.
Hesitate & Die
January 26th, 2011
7:49 pm
To BLAH (i’m important)
“”"”"”"”"””Actually yes, the program I am currently writing involves over 16 MIllion accounts with one of the largest shipping companies in the world. It allows upper management to see detailed financial data on all their sales people, account managers, customer accounts to enable them to generate better business intelligence to tell them what is/isn’t working so they can adjust strategies towards more profits.”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”
YAWN!!, you’d be better off saying you “shoot at cans” for living! Please go FART in your pick-up & DO NOT wind the windows down!
You’ll the get FULL the smell what you’re full of…….
Shoot first...
January 26th, 2011
7:53 pm
@Hesitate & Die
I know. It just pisses you off to no end doesn’t it?
Someone whom you can’t hold a candle to without it blowing up in your face.
Trying to put words into my mouth, or insinuate “importance” is obviously a personal failing you might consider therapy for.
I love to watch people like you squirm.
Bye….
Trey
January 26th, 2011
8:00 pm
We really need to enforce illegal immigration laws. Those who don’t want to enforce them are free to move to another country and damage it. This is a land of laws and laws must be obeyed.
RickR
January 26th, 2011
8:41 pm
”The bill also creates criminal penalties for any individual that encourages an illegal alien to come to Georgia or that transports or harbors an illegal alien once they arrive.”
That is current Federal law.
As I Gather
January 26th, 2011
10:57 pm
1) Being in the US without proper documentation is a CIVIL violation, not a criminal one. So, if you parked illegal – you too could be labeled “illegal.” Crime and violation are different things.
2) This would create criminals when US born children of an undocumented immigrant remain with their parent/s. Or when a citizen spouse remains with undocumented mate. When a food bank feeds a hunger person. Some how I don’t think Jesus would approve of Georgia’s lawmakers endorsing this kind of legislation. Need I continue?
3) Hitler created laws of this nature. And you will recall – everything he did was LEGAL.
So did Southern lawmakers of the 1860s to 1960s – they were called “Jim Crow” laws.
Now Georgians are standing by while those promoting an agenda of hate (again) repeat the same behavior. This time targeting those with brown skin. Do we really want to go down that path?
Fire Eater
January 27th, 2011
4:34 am
The same types behind the third world invasion of America are likewise behind the current attacks on the Second Amendment. I believe the two issues are related – third world immigrants OVERWHELMINGLY support gun control, oppose free speech and are generally politically hostile to the traditional American people.
Strong laws in red states against illegal aliens would force them to go to blue states for their Democrat-guaranteed freebies, further overburdening their finances, schools and prisons – fit punishment for their voting habits.
A real conservative commentator was right when he asked the question (on immigration): If we had to take in one million foreigners, which group would cause fewer problems for Americans – Somalians or Swedes?
It is really not “immigration,” it is an INVASION.
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January 27th, 2011
5:48 am
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As I Gather
January 27th, 2011
5:50 am
Those US citizens who provide guns to Mexico fuel the violence among drug cartels and against innocent people. Those US citizens who buy and use illegal drugs create the DEMAND. Most undocumented people want to abide US laws and live in peace. Few want to interact with the government in any way.
Politicians who want to nullify the 14th Amendment with the 10th Amendment seem to want to see their name in the media. While creating laws that will cost Georgian taxpayers much in legal fees. Taxpayers include those labeled “illegal.”
Go to the Southern Poverty Law Center website and look at the Extremist and Hate groups then connect the dots to Georgia.
Nerm
January 27th, 2011
9:15 am
You people are going to be really upset when amnesty passes aren’t you? Those who say it won’t happen are the same ones who said Obama wouldn’t get elected and Palin would be our VP (yuk, I just threw up in my mouth).
Lucas
January 27th, 2011
11:31 am
As far as enforcing this goes without expanding the government, well that is simple. We have roughly between 120,000 and 160,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and its neighboring countries. Bring them home and put them on the border. It would actually lower expenses versus waging a continued campaign in the middle east. That would allow 12 US soldiers to be stationed on an eight hour shield on every mile of both Canadian and Mexican border territory (Though the Canadian side could receive less enforcement as the number of illegal crossings there are substancially less.). If you wanted to be hardcore about it then you could issue the order to treat them as hostile foreign invaders though that would hardly be necessary unless you wanted to problem to stop very quickly.