Talking ourselves into tragedy

House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio reenacts the swearing-in of Rep. GabrielleGiffords, D-Ariz., on Capitol Hill in Washington on Wednesday. AP/Susan Walsh

House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio reenacts the swearing-in of Rep. GabrielleGiffords, D-Ariz., on Capitol Hill in Washington on Wednesday. AP/Susan Walsh

What we say matters.

U.S. Rep. Jack Kingston was on his way back from a barbecue in Alma on Saturday afternoon, an event very much like the 10 a.m. gathering at the Safeway that Gabrielle Giffords had attended in Tucson, Ariz.

Both events were public — well-advertised and open to anyone and everyone. A chance to meet the federal government up close and personal.

“I do think it’s really important as a society that we take the edge off our positions,” said Kingston over an aide’s cell phone. For one thing, humor has been lacking in our national conversation, he said. The congressman recommends more. “It kind of calms things down.”

Kingston has a reputation as one of Washington’s best communicators – the message man for House Republicans. But as he pointed himself toward Savannah, Kingston was – like everyone else – in search of information, and answers.

As we talked, the identity of the dead federal judge rolled across computer screen. The fact of a dead 9-year-old child joined the tragedy. Giffords, his House colleague, hovered between life and death – the first member of Congress felled by a bullet since Leo Ryan was gunned down in Guyana in 1978 by followers of Jim Jones.

“She’s one of the most popular and delightful members of Congress,” Kingston said. “Her husband’s an astronaut – so she’s got that celebrity flair.”

Kingston’s one personal encounter with Giffords was of the red-faced variety. She’d taken a wrong turn into the men’s locker room of the House gym, and caught the Georgia congressman in his underwear – getting physical therapy on a bad knee.

She is known among her colleagues as a moderate. Giffords voted for health care reform last spring. She opposed Arizona’s immigration law, but supported tougher measures to prohibit illegal immigration.

Last Wednesday, she was one of 19 Democrats who declined to vote for Nancy Pelosi as House Democratic leader. Giffords cast a symbolic vote for U.S. Rep. John Lewis of Atlanta.

Because she was not at either end of the political spectrum, her shooting puzzled him, Kingston said. “She would be the last person you’d figure as a target for anyone.”

Except that it is the moderate voices among both Democrats and Republicans that have been targeted for elimination in the current political climate. Sometimes quite literally.

Giffords was one of 20 Democrats on a graphic posted by Sarah Palin’s political action committee last spring, each marked for elimination with the crosshairs of a gun sight. On Saturday, the website offered condolences to Giffords, her family, and the other victims.

What we say, and how we say it, matters.

There evidence that the alleged 22-year-old Tucson shooter, Jared Loughner, is mentally unstable. Those who want a stronger gun culture in the United States undoubtedly fear that he will become the poster child for those who want tighter controls on weaponry.

But they miss the point. Sociologists will tell you that courtly speech – the careful presentation of facts and points of view, stripped of any possibility of insult – has been a feature in many highly armed cultures precisely because human beings aren’t always the most rational creatures. (“Smile when you say that, pardner.”)

But we have decided to mix highly efficient and highly available weaponry with highly volatile — and highly available — language. Kingston knows that he and his colleagues, both Democrat and Republican, share some of the blame.

“We like the hard hitting stuff in Washington. It gets you on the news,” he said. Sane adults recognize that much of the rhetoric is political theater, and that hands are clasped and backs are slapped at day’s end.

“Our backroom behavior is often better than the front room behavior,” Kingston said.

There are many things to like about Sonny Perdue, who becomes an ex-governor of Georgia on Monday. One of the things most appealing about him was the line he constantly drew between campaign rhetoric and the real task of governing.

In one of his last interviews as governor, Perdue directed himself at those talking themselves into a fever over illegal immigration, at the expense of human beings who actually bleed when they are pricked.
“The Republican Party needs to be very, very careful that it maintains the golden rule in its rhetoric regarding immigration policy,” Perdue said. “It is a very emotive, emotion-filled topic that I think sometimes gets us out there where our hearts really aren’t.”

In other words, what we say matters.

- By Jim Galloway, Political Insider

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122 comments Add your comment

CW

January 8th, 2011
7:33 pm

Sarah Palin “targeted” Giffords in her website “cosshairs”. She got what she wanted!! Republicans have been sloppy with their rhetoric since McCain-Palin started increasing theirs during the late stages of the last Presidential election. The tactic incited a Tea Party movement, but it unleashed malevolant forces that cannot be controlled. The threats against President Obama increased 400% in the first year of his term compared to Bush’s terms. It is not hyperbole to suggest that the Republicans are willing to destroy the US to ensure their agenda prevails — no matter the harm.

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shirley

January 8th, 2011
7:40 pm

What we say does matter. Thank you for reminding us and for reporting on the thoughtful comments of Congressman Kingston. Like many Americans I pray for the full recovery of all those injured today in Tucson and for the families of those whose lives were ended by the senseless rage of one person. And I pray America will face the challenges of violence in our words and deeds courageously and find ways to promote peace and friendship in America and around the globe.

Keith

January 8th, 2011
8:17 pm

Glenn Beck and others on the right have gone out of their way over the last year to encourage their listeners to AVOID violence… yet just the past 2 weeks several on the left (including Frances Fox Piven) have begun encouraging violence.

Thomas

January 8th, 2011
8:30 pm

Very sad moment in politics.

Scot

January 8th, 2011
8:40 pm

Isn’t it a little too early to point to Sarah Palin’s website and infer some sort of inspiration was drawn from it by this insane kid?

He lists his favorite books on his YouTube channel as The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf were among the titles. Not exactly the stuff a rank and file Palin supporter is going to list as their favorite reading material.

Jon

January 8th, 2011
8:43 pm

This is a sad day.

This shooting does not appear to have been inspired by any political rhetoric, but simply the actions of one very disturbed individual.

However, let this event serve as a call to tone down such rhetoric.

There is no place in our civilized society to speak of “targeting” your opponents, of putting them “in your crosshairs”.

RGB

January 8th, 2011
9:00 pm

CW must don a tin hat when typing drivel that most intelligent people would term “lies”.

In addition to murder and attempted murder, are there any other deeds with which you wish to assign to Sarah Palin?

How about record unemployment rate (in our lifetime)?
How about record increase in poverty?
How about a sudden drop in life expectancy?
How about, in our lifetime, an unprecedented drop in home values?
How about the greatest power grab in government history with:
-Takeover of the auto industry?
-Takeover of the financial services industry?
-Takeover of the mortgage industry?
-Takeover of the student loan business?
-Dozens of czars–non approved by Congress?
Maybe the proliferation of rogue nuclear powers?

Oh no, I must be confused, because Sarah Palin doesn’t hold public office. In fact, she hasn’t held public office in a couple of years. And she never held federal public office.

But somehow, she MUST be responsible for all the ills of society.

Because if she isn’t, then somebody must be lying.

And that…..well….couldn’t be……could it?

Don Morecraft

January 8th, 2011
9:07 pm

My wife and I live in Arizona and know that it is a great state in most areas, however, when our governor, house and senate give the right to any nut to buy a gun without a waiting period, without registering a weapon, without any controls at all then they should be held responsible for the actions of their created monsters. No state should allow anyone except law enforcement to strap on a loaded side arm, go any place they choose and use their loaded weapon as their speaking point.

As a citizen of the State of Arizona I hold our elected nut representatives as being responsible for this act.

Jon Lester

January 8th, 2011
9:10 pm

Thanks, Jim. That’s all very well put.

Don Morecraft

January 8th, 2011
9:16 pm

RGB you must have a very short memory, you are trying to assign to the Obama administration what is right fully the Bush administration doing. Quit flying the banner of a political party and start supporting the flag of the United States.

Tom

January 8th, 2011
9:30 pm

Sean Hannity, Neal Boortz, Sarah Palin, Karen Handel……the list goes on and on of all the know it alls who encourage this kind of thing by spewing their hate!

BW

January 8th, 2011
9:37 pm

F*** Sarah Palin…as a matter of fact f*** anyone that pits us against on some bull…say what you will about this person’s mental state…he was cognizant enough to approach this particular woman from behind and put a bullet through her brain and then kill several others including a federal judge and a nine year old boy…as far as I’m concerned that’s premeditation. I will not be surprised if at day’s end there is not some political slant to it. What this coward did was not brave and whatever point he had it will be lost. I hope they televise his execution. For those of you that think this government is going down without a fight I truly feel for you.

Sick and Tired

January 8th, 2011
9:54 pm

Spin it anyway you want. McCain and Palin campaign open the door for all this political hate and unrest you see and hear. Ask and you shall receive.

Burroughston Broch

January 8th, 2011
9:58 pm

Non-courtly speech (aka impolite speech) has been a staple of political rhetoric in this country for many years, and both political parties use it. Sarah Palin is no worse than elected Democratic officials stating that Tea Partiers are wearing white sheets and are all racists.

It’s high time to cool the rhetoric everywhere as we head toward 2012.

Uneducated comments

January 8th, 2011
10:16 pm

I feel horrible for the congresswoman’s family but this was not Sarah Palin’s fault nor the republicans nor the democrats. This man was just insane, no conservative would list their favorite books as the communist manifesto and mein kampf nor would any any democrat speak on government mind control. This guy was just insane and killed many innocent people the partisanship needs to end.

smart dawg

January 8th, 2011
10:18 pm

This is a reprehensible crime perpetrated by a deranged person. For those of you who have suggested that Palin, Hannity, etal brought this about: shame on you.

Alabama Communist

January 8th, 2011
10:21 pm

Ask yourself one question? Who benfits from this phony Paradigm left vs right or Sara Palin vs Karl Marx or Conservative vs Liberal? Will the crys be for more internet speech control or more gun control? Or are we looking at a Manchurian Candiate for the anti-goverment movement?

cs

January 8th, 2011
10:29 pm

gag. turn a trajedy into a love the illegal invaders tear jerker.

dagnabit

January 8th, 2011
10:32 pm

Osama ben Palin has a lot to answer for.

Drooly

January 8th, 2011
10:41 pm

What we say does matter: The illegals and the left says we should ignore our laws and borders and surrender. When Ga. was being over run by illegals in his first term, Sonny said nothing until he was forced to. While Georgians lose their jobs to illegals, we hear the illegals described as the victims.

Most Americans say we should keep our country and our language and our culture along with the rule of law.

What is Galloway saying?

[...] What you might not have heard, depending on your news outlets, is that Giffords was one of the representatives that Sarah Palin had “in her crosshairs” prior to the 2010 elections.  Why, you ask?  Basically, because Giffords voted in favor of providing heath insurance to most Americans and supported Mitt Romney’s healthcare reform bill.  Never mind that Giffords was one of 12 Democratic representatives to vote against Nancy Pelosi last week. [...]

BlackMoses

January 8th, 2011
10:57 pm

I think you folks on the Right..have to agree that the Palin Crosshairs campaign ad….at the minimum was unfortunate but clearly reckless and bad form.

dmcsga

January 8th, 2011
11:17 pm

It totally wouldn’t surprise me if the Republican Party or Tea Party had something to do with it or ordered a hit. The Republicans have done nothing but spew hate into our nations and now it has gone up a notch. Sarah Palin should be the first one to be investigated with her website! BAD TASTE????? Please! This is beyond bad taste. Republican “suppose” to represent the conservative, “family values”, christian part of the nation. They make me puke! I don’t know you might as well add them into another hate group, now that this happened

dmcsga

January 8th, 2011
11:22 pm

Drooly shut the hell up! You have no clue what you are talking about WHAT job does an illegal take from an American?? Do you pick cotton, produce, pluck feathers from chicken in a poultry farm, slaughter cow for beef?? Well if that is the only job you qualify for, then I recommend you going back to get your GED! I am NOT worried about a farm job, the jobs that have been killing us are the ones that have been sent overseas from IT and customer service. You know the skilled type jobs that pay at least 30K and above not the minimum wage type jobs

dmcsga

January 8th, 2011
11:26 pm

RGB wasn’t censorship being advocated because “Rap Music” was provoking violence in teens, wasn’t that the argument that the lyrics instilled bad behavior in our youth? So what does the hate filled rhetoric that the Republicans have been putting out with the help from Fox News have in common?

WTF

January 8th, 2011
11:54 pm

Too bad he didn’t aim for one of the AZ leaders who encourges confrontation rather than conversation to discuss issues and is a leader telling the working class folks and ill folks in her state to take a hike or just go somewhere and drop dead – Jan Brewer.

[...] spectrum. She’s a moderate Democrat and gun owner. Last week, she was one of 19 Democrats who declined to vote for Nancy Pelosi as House Democratic leader.But she did support Obama’s healthcare reform. This made her, [...]

PatP

January 9th, 2011
1:07 am

What America has done is created home grown terrorists. Democrats and Republicans have to take responsibility for their rhetoric. Voters should shun anyone spewing hate on anyone. @Shirley and Jon you got it right. Let’s send a message by either hospitalizing this young man for life or convicting him to a death sentence.

Frank Simmons

January 9th, 2011
2:12 am

All of you trying to hide from the responsibility of Sarah palin and Sean Hannity and of course the candidate that actually drew the picture of crosshair can say what yo want but this guy knew who you encouraged to shoot. Yes, you are at fault and can expect to pay for your participation in this crime and there is no two ways to spin it into your favor. This is what you asked for and this shall be on your shoulders to bear blame for it. You just didn’t believe it would actually happen like life imitating politics.

Fire Eater

January 9th, 2011
6:24 am

Those who seek to exploit this incident for political advantage need to be swiftly and unceremoniously slapped down…I mean those who blame “right wing extremists” and “gun nuts” for this outburst. It is almost as if they KNEW that this was going to happen. Let’s see how the hatekeepers at the SPLC or ADL exploit this event.

A quick review of The Collected Works of Jared Laughner indicates to any and all that its author was INSANE. Further investigation may reveal that this creature may have been on mind-bending “prescription” meds, the type that are constantly being pushed on TV with lengthy disclaimers about side effects such as “suicidal or homicidal urges” from their usage.

Fifteen or twenty years ago there was a number of mass shooting incidents, generally committed with military-looking semi-automatic firearms after which the shooter, generally one on psychotropic meds, suicided out. These events seemed to occur almost precisely at the point which anti-gun legislation was stalled in Congress…giving these evil measures just the boost needed to pass. Similarly, immediately after the Republican sweep of Congress in 1994, due mainly to anti-gun legislation from Democrats, there soon came the Oklahoma City bombing.

We have “9 11 Truthers” insisting on various nutty theories other than the obvious about that event but there are few delving in to the events of Oklahoma City. Is the attempted assassination of a congresswoman the “Oklahoma City bombing” of 2011?

Julie

January 9th, 2011
7:34 am

Months ago I blogged about the extreme rhetoric coming from the right, in particular Palin, the TEA Party, and FOX News, and that it was only a matter of time, with the inflammatory rhetoric that they have been spewing would end like this. This is one time I wish I had been wrong, now people are dead.

Burroughston Broch

January 9th, 2011
7:53 am

@ Julie

You just don’t listen to reason if you think you can use a tragedy to your advantage, do you? Is this a tenet of “progressive” thought, like Rahm Emanuel’s instruction to never let a crisis go to waste? It’s actually part of Saul Alinsky’s guide for revolutionaries.

Here is reason: Non-courtly speech (aka impolite speech) has been a staple of political rhetoric in this country for many years, and both political parties use it. Sarah Palin has been no worse than elected Democratic officials stating that Tea Partiers are wearing white sheets and are all racists.

It’s high time to cool the rhetoric everywhere as we head toward 2012.

Now, please go back under your rock.

Fire Eater

January 9th, 2011
8:26 am

Actually, the left is moving FASTER than expected to use this event to further their agenda…FOX (Faux) News says that “sources” are “exploring a link” between lunatic Loughner and “American Renaissance,” a conservative group attacked by the ADL and SPLC. Did he view their website? Presumably, that will be the “link.”

Brad

January 9th, 2011
8:35 am

Amazing that you print an article about toning down the political rhetoric, and get some of the hateful posts that show up in this blog (see “dagnabit” and “BW”). This was a terrible tragedy and the criminal should be punished. And shame on the AJC for adding to the frenzy…today’s headline reads “When Political Ferver Turns Deadly”, yet there is nothing in the article or anywhere else to describe this guy’s political beliefs. In fact, what is reported sounds as if he is just plain crazy (read the excerpts from his video ramblings). My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families, and I hope you all will take a moment to pray for them as well.

Sally Sue

January 9th, 2011
8:58 am

“The Republican Party needs to be very, very careful that it maintains the golden rule in its rhetoric…”

Unfortunately, for Republicans, the “golden rule” is: whoever gets the most gold wins. They’ll do anything to get the gold & the power, including putting those that get in their way in the crosshairs of a gun.

The saddest part is how successful they’ve been at getting the media (Fox) to brainwash voters into believing Republicans have working people’s interests at heart. Wake up America!

Road Scholar

January 9th, 2011
9:38 am

First, my prayers are with the family of the Congresswoman, and the others killed and wounded by this shooter.

“Non-courtly speech (aka impolite speech) has been a staple of political rhetoric in this country for many years,…”

The right never amazes me concerning their biased reasoning and explanations; if it serves their agenda, it’s ok. This goes for “impolite speech”… Hell no! Impolite? It is incendiary speech that, people who are easily convinced, latch onto as the gospel and act out. A person does not have to be crazy to do this. Look/read/comprehend some of the blog responses posted on the AJC and elsewhere. Even in responding to this travesty, people lash out and insult others; you insult our intelligence. The anger and lack of responsibility by some is more deeply rooted in our society after the constant “us and them” rants made in public and by the “entertainers” on Fox News. It’s about time the right, and the left, temper their arguments. Besides if you have to “yell” , berate, and insult your opponent, then your case and view holds less water than you think it does.

For shame

January 9th, 2011
9:46 am

Most of these posts spew the same kind of hateful words (on both sides of the political spectrum) that have contributed to a culture of disrepect and vileness that feed the sick minds of people like this young murderer. While I do feel that people like Sara Palin and Neal Boortz and many of the Fox news commentators feed this fire, they are NOT responsible for what happened. Hopefully, this sad event will cause some of them to pause and choose their words more carefully, but judging by your posts today, I am not sure that is possible. Martin Luther King Jr. said that darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that, and hatred cannot drive out hatred, only love can do that—so where is the light and love in your words?

art

January 9th, 2011
9:50 am

There are more than 22,389 restrictive gun laws in force. Of those, not even one has ever reduced crime. The next ones proposed as a result of this shooting will not help either. We must blame the shooter, not the gun, nor the politicians.

Willx

January 9th, 2011
10:00 am

God Bless all those directly affected by this tragedy. A tragedy that would have been prevented had the Democrat politicians not crammed dubious health-care legislation and other Big Government over-reaching power(s) on an American public that is overwhelming against those changes. You can’t continue to steal and redistribute hard earned money from working class families to illegal aliens and those who refuse to maintain gainful employment just for votes to stay in political power. This is a wake up call to all politicians and Left wing media that think they are smarter than most Americans.

BigT

January 9th, 2011
10:02 am

This guy was a Leftist. People seem to forget that….. The Leftist Blog Daily Kos had targeted Gillford because she was a conservative democrat. So stop trying to blame this on radio…

George

January 9th, 2011
10:04 am

@Fire Eater — interesting name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-Eaters: In United States history, the term Fire-Eaters refers to a group of extremist pro-slavery politicians from the South who urged the separation of southern states into a new nation, which became known as the Confederate States of America.

I think that might provide some context for his comments about the SPLC and the ADL. A moment ago, I wrote a friend to say that it was just a matter of time before someone started drawing analogies between the shooting and “false flag” operations designed to abridge people’s right to bear arms. I should have looked here first.

I’m not blaming the shooting on the rhetoric. Laughtner is apparently insane. But I am blaming the state of political discourse on the anything-goes rhetoric we’re engaged in. And even now, with blood on the floor, it does not cease.

Look, about 90 million people voted in congressional races last year. A relatively small majority voted for Republicans. Two years before that, about 130 million people voted in the presidential race and for congress. About seven million more voted for the Democratic candidate than the Republican. Either way, the divide is narrow, even though it is deep. No matter who is in charge, a substantial number of people will stand in the opposing party. Governing a society like this requires compromise and tolerance. The state of rhetoric makes that difficult.

Democracy exists only when enough people believe losing at the ballot box is a better alternative than taking up arms. This is my problem with the rhetoric right now — it’s lowering the psychological barrier to armed conflict. It must stop, if we are to survive as a democracy and as a nation.

Or Perhaps Arizona will become our Bleeding Kansas. Perhaps the Fire Eaters of the world will prevail.

IseeYou

January 9th, 2011
10:13 am

Just read the comments of Willx to see where these people are coming from. Willx basically says, yeah, it’s a tragedy. But she had it coming because of her health care vote. I often see comments on these boards that indicate the writer is capable of murder. I’d say anyone who says this assassination is a “wake up call” needs an ankle monitor.

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margie smith

January 9th, 2011
10:27 am

People look back over our history, why have all the killings been to democrates, Kenndey, john & robert, Martin luther King and His sister, All the doctors murder because of abortion, Who let all the mental ill People walk among us like they have no health illness. Remember all the mental hospitals that were closed. Folks all the mean talk on the radio, and the lies on fox has split this country apart. When will we wake up and demand hate speech has to stop. Trying to hide behide the constitution is very very sick playing one american against the other. I am so tired of this, your freedom stops were mine begains that goes for everything, everything. My business is not the worlds business stop the violence now. Or Your children will not have an American

margie smith

January 9th, 2011
10:35 am

He couldnt have been a lefty because he carried around nazi book that happens to be a right wing book the farther you go right the closer you are to being a nazi, the left is comunism. I beleive some of you did take history, Calling Obama a Nazi he is left not right . Tired of all the hate.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

January 9th, 2011
10:39 am

One of the Founders, Th. Paine, wrote “the King of America reigneth in heaven above.” 

The Creator – the “Infinite Power which rules the destinies of the universe” as Mr. Jefferson called It – is most obvious where Truth and Justice rule.

That a daily mass-attending Roman Catholic judge who gave standing in his court to the illegal immigrant pawns on the front line of Rome’s openly published invasion for conquest of Our New Secular Order – whig-founded America, appointed by one of JFK’s assassins, GHWBush, should “randomly” be killed should give all G-d-fearing patriots pause to reflect on “Annuit Coeptis” and karma.

Inbred whitetrash, papal/Rockefeller-front Palin put Giffords “in the crosshairs” and some drug addled pervert wounded her and killed one of the leaders of Rome’s treasonous Fifth Column.

America is One People, One Creed (the three mottoes on the Great Seal), and One Creator G-d alone. Confusion reigns through the likes of Palin, Gifford’s assassin, and Pharoah/Rome/Rockefellers’ fronts in D.C. when the sovereign People forget the covenant established at Our Founding.

The Spirit of Righteousness will guide Our Nation as soon as due process hangs 9/11-committing Bush and Cheney at the Navy Yard, thank G-d.

N.B. Those without Truth of Dallas and 9/11 need merely catch Jesse Ventura’s fully credible shows on those subjects. Let’s have Justice for 9/11 and Vietnam, for Kennedy and King: Death for treason, NOW!

ComradeAnon

January 9th, 2011
10:41 am

Wasn’t that nice of Rep. Kingston to say that this as a “society” we need to take the edge off. It must be that “liberal media” I keep hearing about, but I hear only from one part of society. The part that has a television network working for them 24/7, the part that has numerous radio show hosts saying we need to “take out” some people, the part that murders late term abortion providers doing a constitutionally protected job. They even name bills with the word “killing” in them. Every time they put the “edge” on, to use Kingston’s words, they are putting a loaded gun out there and are inviting people to pick it up and use it. And by the way Galloway, great job of publishing their denial.

IseeYou

January 9th, 2011
10:44 am

Just a lone nutjob? “When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous,” the sheriff said. “And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry.”

Sarah

January 9th, 2011
10:47 am

Don’t blame me cause the crazys listen to me.