Your morning jolt: John Barrow, too, says he’ll give Nancy Pelosi a pass

On Wednesday, U.S. Rep. Sanford Bishop of Albany declared he wouldn’t endorse Nancy Pelosi’s continued leadership of Democrats in Congress.

So what says U.S. Rep. John Barrow, now the deep South’s only white Democrat in the House? From the Savannah Morning News:

U.S. Rep. John Barrow of Savannah. Associated Press.

U.S. Rep. John Barrow of Savannah. Associated Press.

On Thursday, a terse e-mail on behalf of the Savannah lawmaker followed two days of repeated queries by the Savannah Morning News.

“Congressman Barrow will not support Nancy Pelosi for Democratic leader, nor will he vote for her for speaker,” wrote spokeswoman Jane Brodsky.

Barrow balked at answering the question in late September – before Republicans won control of the House in the Nov. 2 elections. The GOP is poised to elect John Boehner of Ohio to speaker in January.

Barrow is scheduled to be in Athens this morning for a political symposium looking at the Nov. 2 vote – so you might hear more on the topic today. U.S. Rep. Hank Johnson of Decatur is the only Democrat in Georgia who has declared himself for Pelosi.

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Though we know he also has ties to Mitt Romney, former state GOP chair Ralph Reed may have already decided which horse to back in 2012. From U.S. News and World Report:

Reed, who used to run Pat Robertson’s Christian Coalition, says a good leader is one who provides not just the “bread, but also the bread of life” for his constituents.

“Even if you bring the capital-gains tax down to zero,” create more jobs, and turn the economy around, he argues, Obama still needs to give an “eternal” set of values, such as opposing abortion and same-sex marriage. So who would be a Christ-like GOP challenger to Obama in 2012? Reed says his friend, Sarah Palin.

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Yes, we saw all the Tweets and e-mails flying around about two more defections by state House Democrats to the GOP side of the aisle. But it was Veterans Day, the state Capitol was closed, and phone conversations with the mouthpieces for House Democrats and Republicans revealed that neither side had a good handle on what was actually happening. We’ll try again today.

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Politifact Georgia today takes a look at Gov. Sonny Perdue’s claim that Georgia’s high school graduation rate now tops 80 percent.

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Michael Thurmond, the state labor commissioner and former candidate for U.S. Senate, sat down with reporters on Thursday for the first time since his Nov. 2 defeat.

Thurmond denies he’s angling for the job, but has already been discussed as the next chairman of the state Democratic party. But from his description of his party’s troubles, it’s a wonder that he – or anyone else – would want it. From the Associated Press:

In a wide-ranging interview, he described Democrats in Georgia as being in a state of “political crisis” that is driving away white males in particular.

“We have not yet resolved the tension between blacks and whites,” Thurmond said. “That becomes very uncomfortable and disconcerting, especially to white elected officials. That makes it impossible for us to recruit or retain a critical number of whites to win statewide races. It jeopardizes the coalition.”

Still, Thurmond said Georgia’s increasing diversity can be an asset to Democrats as the Republican Party’s demographics become increasingly monolithic.

“You will need political leadership that is sensitive to and has and understanding of what Georgia is becoming,” he said, adding that the state’s diversity could begin to manifest itself at the polls as soon as 2014. “We’re going to have to have leadership that reflects the diversity of Georgia.”

Not that he is dismissing white voters — or any voters.

“We need more white folks,” he quipped. “You need everybody you can get. And anybody who makes the assertion that you don’t need white men is nuts.”

Thurmon said another reason for defeat among Georgia Democrats was their failure to unite and pool resources.

“When you’re a weakened party, it’s better to run as a ticket,” he said. “There’s strength in numbers. We didn’t do that. All of us were underfunded — everybody except Roy,” referring to Democratic gubernatorial candidate Roy Barnes.

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In today’s New York Times, columnist William Cohan looks at the arguments of one Republican, former Reagan budget director David Stockman, against extension of the Bush tax cuts:

The deficit stems from our twin desires to live beyond our collective means and to act as policeman to the world, including by financing two hugely expensive wars of our own choosing. “This is not 1981,” Stockman said on “This Week.”

“We’ve had a debt spree for 30 years. The economy has been badly injured. It is sunk under the weight of $50 trillion of debt that we’ve created publicly and privately. The recovery is over. It was weak. It was tepid. What we have now is day-to-day, 1-percent to 2-percent growth, if we’re lucky. And so therefore government has to focus on paying its bills and not micro-managing or stimulating the economy.”

He concedes — as he and Reagan once argued — that raising taxes might curb some economic activity and result in lower tax revenues in the short term. “If you raise taxes on paper by $100 billion, maybe you’ll get $90 billion or $85 billion,” he said.

“But it’s just common-sense fact that when you raise the rates, you get more revenue. Normally, it’s a bad thing to do. But we are in such dire shape that we have no choice but to accept the negative trade-off of some harm to the economy to start paying our bills.”

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52 comments Add your comment

Jon

November 12th, 2010
9:23 am

I think that’s an endorsement that Palin would be wise to run from.

LaLaLa

November 12th, 2010
9:32 am

John Barrow is not really a democrat, or a leader, and supports party leadership only about half the time anyway. So, I guess it should not be a surprise that as soon as the chance comes to trash an effective leader, he cuts and runs the other way. Sanford Bishop is a much bigger disappointment, but have to assume he is trying to assuage the Tea folk in his district who go apoplectic at the thought of an effective female political leader who doesn’t wink, drop her “g”s, and prance about in Naughty Monkeys.

packing my bags....

November 12th, 2010
9:50 am

can’t get the link to the Stockman article to open…probably work security settings. but thanks for posting that portion of it. nice to see a realistic approach to taxes and debt, but have to wonder who is listening.
AND, when did ralph reed crawl back out of the swamp. whoever runs against his “friend” will love having him out there making noise. please, someone…anyone, just make him go away for good. move to alaska with your friend.

Jose

November 12th, 2010
10:02 am

John Barrow isn’t working as a democrat. It’s just a matter of time when he change over. I prefer that it does it now than later. Democrats in Georgia that acts like him later change over to Republican. He won’t be a long term Democrat. He can’t be trusted as a Democrat working for Democrats. It’s just that simple.

joe

November 12th, 2010
10:13 am

If we don’t start cutting spending, and I mean on everything (wars, unemployment, entitlements, etc), our country will be in the tank and our currency will be worthless. Forget these stupid unnecessary projects such as the trollies on Auburn Avenue and high speed rail from Atlanta to Charlotte. Cut, cut again, then cut some more until it hurts.

will

November 12th, 2010
10:25 am

John Barrow is left of center. Athens-Clarke County Democrat. He is nowhere near being a Republican. He is right to oppose Pelosi. She will sink the Democratic Party. But hey, as a strong GOP, I hope they elect her minority leader.

KL

November 12th, 2010
10:30 am

Be fun to watch alpha-dogs Ralph and Sarah sniff each other. They’d both be wise to turn tail and run.

redneck

November 12th, 2010
10:49 am

looks like the rats are jumping overboard. poor nancy

Darwin

November 12th, 2010
10:54 am

We live in the racist South. White Democrats are doomed until a Democrat white man runs for president again. And by that time, we’ll be asking him to pull us out of another Republican created depression.

Mike

November 12th, 2010
10:57 am

Too bad Politifact didn’t take into account all the cheating going on to make it seem like the graduation rates went up. Such as transferring students who are receiving Certificates of Performance to an alternative school a few days before graduation to artificially improve a school’s rate like our district does every year.

http://thehallmonitor.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/41/

redneck

November 12th, 2010
11:02 am

hey darwin, head north we allready got too many of your type as it is

RonN'Mexico

November 12th, 2010
11:03 am

Hank Johnson also suports island tipping. Just shows his endorsement of the botox witch is even more out of touch. Poor Dekalb county, first Cynthia and now Hank. Oh wait, they were the idiots that voted this sucker in. Let them suck on it. You deserve him.

redneck

November 12th, 2010
11:06 am

darwin talks like he has no faith in his mesiah oblama

Selah

November 12th, 2010
11:12 am

It seems a new requirement for being a democrat is being clairvoiant and knowing the motivations of people you don’t actually know. Unfounded attacks about others beign racist or hating women only losen the bonds that hold us together as a society. Such cancerous language is only serves to divide and entrench. The words have lost thier power to persuade or inform.

Barrow Idiot Commenters

November 12th, 2010
11:22 am

Idiots saying Barrow isn’t a “real” demorat are showing their ignorance. I had a class at UGA that was
taught by his mother. I can tell you, that family is very similar to the Kennedy family in their democratic roots. The man is a Harvard liberal and awill be a life long demorat.
I’m not a fan if Barrows but at least I will give him props for getting more in line with the people that voted for him and that live in his district.
You ignorant people ranting do realize that he works for the voters in his district and not the demorats in the DNC don’t you? I’ll answer for you, NO YOU DON”T!

Trucker

November 12th, 2010
11:31 am

Come on John, move on over to the right! Those lefties are trying to bankrupty our country. No such thing as a conservative democrat any more…

Exactly!

November 12th, 2010
11:36 am

@ Barrow …. You hit the nail on the head! The Democrats lost control of the House because they forced their more moderate members to toe the party line on votes that were very unpopular in their more conservative districts. With leaders like Pelosi in charge of the agenda, the Democrats way overplayed their hand and voters decided that if the “Blue Dogs” weren’t going to serve as a check and balance to the more liberal members of the Democrat party, then they had no choice but to elect Republicans. Barrow survived the wave this time and he may continue to survive because he got the message and is responding accordingly.

t_height

November 12th, 2010
11:43 am

Yes some of us do realize who he is suppose to be working for. I’m in his district and he opposes too many things that we here in souteast georgia support. He is a really good man and I do think he will remain a Dem but he should run as a libertarian rather than Dem. Living in Southeast Georgia, He know that he have a better chance of winning each election as a Dem than anything else.

LaLaLa

November 12th, 2010
11:48 am

Dems lost the vote because unemployment is still above 9%, foreclosures are still on the rise, banks are still failing, and Wall Street is still raking in the $$$, not because Nancy Pelosi kicked Republican a&& on the Health Care Reform Act.

Awful, Awful, Awful

November 12th, 2010
11:48 am

U.S. Rep. Hank Johnson of Decatur is the only Democrat in Georgia who has declared himself for Pelosi.

And, he’s an idiot :)

redneck

November 12th, 2010
11:53 am

gotta love all that transparancy huh lalala?

Gary

November 12th, 2010
12:07 pm

Michael Thurmond just wants to continue the race card. The fact that whites are not in the Democratic Party has absolutely nothing to do with race, while the fact that blacks are in the Democratic Party has everything to do with race. Whites have not left the Democratic Party … the party has left them. The Democratic Party should be renamed the Socialist Party. Blacks remain in the party in order to block vote, regardless of the qualifications of the candidate.

redneck

November 12th, 2010
12:19 pm

gary likes to tell how the cow ate the cabbage

JustMe

November 12th, 2010
12:30 pm

U.S. Rep. Hank Johnson of Decatur is the only Democrat in Georgia who has declared himself for Pelosi.

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What about John Lewis? I can’t believe he wouldn’t vote for Pelosi (or maybe he just hasn’t said – I don’t know – I haven’t heard one way or the other).

Debbie

November 12th, 2010
12:31 pm

I wonder what his daddy would think of this. He was one of the great humanitarians of all time.

JustMe

November 12th, 2010
12:32 pm

Dems lost the vote because unemployment is still above 9%.

The ironic thing is that they are the only ones that are actually helping the unemployed since the GOP refuses to extend benefits unless they’re paid for (but yet they have no problem with approving bailouts or extending the Bush tax cuts which weren’t or will not be paid for which makes them HUGE hypocrites in my book).

JustMe

November 12th, 2010
12:34 pm

No such thing as a conservative democrat any more…

And there is even less of a thing called a moderate republican. I think that is why people like Barrow don’t switch parties. Unfortunately they’re not really welcomed with open arms anywhere. We need an Independent/Moderate party too!

JustMe

November 12th, 2010
12:35 pm

White Democrats are doomed until a Democrat white man runs for president again. And by that time, we’ll be asking him to pull us out of another Republican created depression.

So true!

fer

November 12th, 2010
12:36 pm

John Barrow is a Democrat in name only. His staunchly Democrat parents are surely turning in their graves over his antics.

JustMe

November 12th, 2010
12:37 pm

John Barrow is left of center. Athens-Clarke County Democrat. He is nowhere near being a Republican. He is right to oppose Pelosi. She will sink the Democratic Party.

I absolutely agree. If its possible she may be even more divisive than Sarah Palin which is saying quite a bit.

Alabama Communist

November 12th, 2010
12:44 pm

So who would be a Christ-like GOP challenger to Obama in 2012? Reed says his friend, Sarah Palin.* Jim

Good Grief! Now Reed is pimping for 1/2 Governor Sara Palin! No doubt this man is a professional political neo-con HO………

redneck

November 12th, 2010
12:45 pm

no use trying to argue with a liberal they will never understand

Mike

November 12th, 2010
12:56 pm

Rep. Bishop changes with the wind. He would vote against Pelosi only because the Fox people and Michael Steele target her as a liberal. His district is a toss-up and could easily go Republican. He has no backbone. His name comes up more for shady deals involving his family than leadership.

t heght

November 12th, 2010
1:20 pm

redneck you should never say those words. you are the type that refuses to understand

robert finch

November 12th, 2010
1:30 pm

Commissioner thurmond is right about settling the racial tension that exist, and it can’t be done unless we get away from symbolism and begin to focus on issues common to us all. As for Barrow, we have had our differences and i don’t agree with him much of the time. But hell would freeze over before held he would abandon the Democratic party for the GOP.

stw

November 12th, 2010
1:35 pm

And the reason Johnson supports Palosi is that she will prevent us sending troops to any island otherwise it might tip over and sink…

Rockpile2

November 12th, 2010
1:38 pm

Can we all breathe a sigh of relief that Georgia voted in a Republican of honesty and unquestionable ethics in Nathan Deal???????????

Darwin

November 12th, 2010
2:01 pm

redneck – need I say more?

Junior Samples

November 12th, 2010
2:13 pm

rather have a crook than barnes. He’s joined at the hip to the unions just like obama

JustMe

November 12th, 2010
2:16 pm

Well I’d rather have Barnes than a crook, but that being said, I’m trying to be optimistic that Deal won’t be indicted (that would really make Georgia into a laughing stock) and that he’ll do a good job (albeit I am not holding my breath).

Last Man Standing

November 12th, 2010
2:21 pm

Please, please, please vote for Pelosi as minority leader!

Retired Soldier

November 12th, 2010
2:51 pm

Why all this talk about Barrow? When we redistrict next year at the congressional level there are just two tasks. First to create a new republican district with the additional seat GA will receive. Second is to slice and dice Barrow’s district to end his short stay in Congress. Because of the Voting Rights Act Lewis, Johnson, Bishop and Scott are untouchable. Barrow is fair game.

The worst thing for Barrow happened on election night, Bishop won. Barrow, start floating the ole resume next year.

PappyHappy

November 12th, 2010
3:25 pm

How long will it take some principled democrats to say ‘ENOUGH’, and simply change parties, or become INDEPENDENTS as did Senator Lieberman?

On the Senate side, how many really want to be saying ‘YES SIR’ to Harry Reid for at least two years, when Harry has difficulty determining what he is signing?

On the House side, do you really think that true moderates and Blue Dogs are going to hold their noses for two years as Pelosi goes about the self -congratulatory process at each and every opportunity?

How many do you suppose will allow their principles to drive them in the 112th Congress? How many do you think are already contemplating such a move?

(Wonder if Harry and Pelosi have reached out to any of their members who may be in this window? As the leader he can only think about being, wonder how many Obama has reached out and touched??)

WHO WILL BE THE FIRST TO MAKE HISTORY???

redneck

November 12th, 2010
3:49 pm

i know you are but what am i? doesnt that sound childish

redneck

November 12th, 2010
3:54 pm

i got a name for you too darwin

fer

November 12th, 2010
3:57 pm

JustMe, how in the world do you think Barrow is an ACC Democrat? He is left of nothing, except maybe left behind.

Dennis A. Rice

November 12th, 2010
4:08 pm

22 Blue Dogs defeated. Only 24 left to go.

There is a sickness in GA

November 12th, 2010
9:17 pm

Barrow is gone after redistricting anyway, no matter how far right he moves.

Bill Orvis White

November 13th, 2010
12:31 am

Just another dumb Socialist-Democrat who will be gone in two years because WE THE PEOPLE see through his garbage. Very soon, all Socialist-Democrats will be extinct in all of these great southern states. That’s why these states need to form a coalition whereby WE make our own rules and let the rest of the Godless nation deal with weak borders, secularism, high taxe$ and illegal healthcare.
The Southern Coalition of the United States will protect its borders, stop Obamacare at all borders, voucherize schools, and institute its own trade and currency. I’m hoping someone like the Honorable Governor Rick Perry could be the Southern Coalition’s president. If not Rick, then why not me?
Amen,
Bill

DEM PARTY?

November 13th, 2010
5:15 pm

Why have any state political party? Who do they serve? Thurmond won’t win as party chair cause he hasn’t realized the Dems want a new face and new ideas. Unfortunately, if he had any new ideas he would have used them to run a race. It’s not the Party’s fault no one heard from him or saw him the whole time he was running.