Your morning jolt: Nathan Deal opts out of Senate GOP coup

Gov.-elect Nathan Deal on Monday was invited to address House Republicans who gathered at the state Capitol to celebrate last week’s thumping of Democrats and to elect a few new officers.

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“I’m looking not only to be brave and bold but to also be cautious, be careful,” Deal told them.

The intrepid-but-wary Denis O’Hayer of WABE (90.1 FM) collared the governor-elect afterwards to ask him to elaborate – first on the subject of taxes. Listen to Deal’s full remarks here.

Said Deal:

”I know there’s always a discussion of whether or not tax cuts translate into an immediate loss of revenue. And in some cases, they do. And obviously, the benefit of additional revenue that comes in from those tax cuts is sometimes a little delayed in the process.

“But that’s what we have to decide – how the formula works and how we can do it. Whether it has to be phased in or simply can take some of those bold steps early on.

“I do believe there are businesses all across this country that are looking to relocate out of high tax states. California, of course, comes to mind. I believe we have an opportunity to recruit many of those businesses….. “

O’Hayer: So are you saying you’d phase those tax cuts in if you had to?

Deal: It’s too early to say that. I want to see what the tax reform council recommends and we’ll go from there.

O’Hayer: You said to be bold but cautious. Bold where? And cautious where?

Deal: I think we have to be bold, to be willing to embrace new ideas. Sometimes when you have difficult economic times, the tendency is to just stay where you are, and not be willing to reach out….

The governor-elect was not invited to address Senate Republicans last week, who – rather than celebrating GOP gains – were enmeshed in a well-planned insurgency against Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle, stripping him of the best of his powers. Let’s pick up the conversation:

O’Hayer: Will it be difficult to work with the Senate under the new power sharing arrangement?

Deal: I don’t think so. I think all of those individuals who are in positions of responsibility are good people, and I have a good relationship with all of them. And I think we can all work together.

O’Hayer: Are you disappointed that they had a power struggle so soon after an election?

Deal: Well, those are the kinds of things that come with politics, you know. I’ll let them settle their disputes, and I don’t intervene in theirs. I just look forward with all of them, and I think we’re going to do that.

As a matter of fact, one of Deal’s first decisions as governor-elect – after naming his transition team – was apparently to stay out of the contest between Cagle and GOP senators. So much for North Georgia solidarity – although we don’t know whether Cagle asked for his Gainesville neighbor’s help.

Then again, we can’t remember the lieutenant governor endorsing Nathan Deal in his August primary runoff against Karen Handel, who had condemned the good ol’ boy practices of the General Assembly. And this was after the Senate favorite, Eric Johnson, had been eliminated.

The other part of that equation: Senate President pro tem Tommie Williams of Lyons, the most obvious beneficiary of the Senate coup, was a strong Deal supporter. They went to grade school together.

So you might have to say that Deal’s neutrality is a bold but cautious move.

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Often, when an office-holder switches loyalties, the spurned political party issues a good-riddance message to rush the bum out the door. But not in the case of state Rep. Alan Powell, who on Monday donned his vestments as a Republican. Noted by Blake Aued of the Athens Banner-Herald:

Democratic Party of Georgia Chairwoman Jane Kidd released a conciliatory statement on Powell’s decision.

“Alan Powell has been my State Representative, my colleague in the House and my friend for many years,” Kidd, a Lavonia native and former state representative from Athens, said in a written statement. “I’m disappointed that he has chosen to caucus with the Republicans in the Georgia House of Representatives. I’m sure he’ll represent his constituents with the same honesty and independence that has characterized his political career.

“He may have given his vote to the Republicans, but in his heart, Alan will always be a good Georgia Democrat.”

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With the election over, it’s clear that many Georgia Republicans like their tea with a little salt, including a Georgia congressman who keeps a copy of the U.S. Constitution in his suit pocket. From Politico:

Conservative Georgia Rep. Paul Broun is backing Rep. Jeb Hensarling over Rep. Michele Bachmann for House Republican Conference chairman.
The endorsement is another sign of the conservative support Hensarling is garnering — Reps. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee and Spencer Bachus of Alabama have all thrown their support behind the Texan.

“Jeb has been an outspoken advocate for constitutionally limited government and fiscal restraint long before it was popular in Washington,” Broun said in a statement. “As a principled conservative and articulate communicator, Jeb has the energy, will and ability to effectively communicate House Republicans’ policies with the American people.”

It’s a direct brushback against Bachmann, who is running a campaign based on being a “constitutional conservative.”

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43 comments Add your comment

wesleywhatwhat

November 9th, 2010
8:41 am

sounds like more politics as usual with guvna deal.

TEA Conservative

November 9th, 2010
8:48 am

Who cares about the GOP Chairman post. Who are the “conservatives” supporting against “bailout” Boehner for Speaker?

Observer1

November 9th, 2010
8:53 am

LMAO..folks we were warned not to give the keys to the bank back to the crooks. We were so foolish in trusting the REPUBs before and look where it got us. Now after only two years of trying to right the ship, we again think patience is not a virtue and all of our problems can be fixed ASAP. Well Georgians and the nation, we are in for a real ride now that we have given these slimeballs alittle life again.
My grandfather always use to say, if you want to know what a man will do in future, just study his past. Georgia has been dead last for a long time under repubican rule, and up to the last 2 years we were falling behind global until we got Rid of Bush and his cronies. Now here we go giving them the power back. Thanks fellow Georgians, and the Nation too, you prove we the citizens are the biggest idiots on earth.
Now that the republicans are in charge, I want to see 2% unemployment in the state and the nation, and nations debt they ran up for 8 years discharged by January 2, 2011. Cant wait to see what they do…of course I already know, because history is your greatest teacher.

Last Man Standing

November 9th, 2010
9:08 am

Observer1:

“Now after only two years of trying to right the ship, we again think patience is not a virtue”

Yeah, that is like someone handing you a bomb with the fuse lit and having the “patience” to hold onto it until the explosion occurs. It can be your last act of “patience”.

“I want to see 2% unemployment in the state and the nation”

When was the LAST time we only had 2% unemployment?

. . . and of course Obama, Pelosi and Reed have done nothing to add to that debt in massive amounts?

“…of course I already know”

Then there is really no need for you to get a reply since you “already know”.

bart

November 9th, 2010
9:09 am

Bachmann is a loose cannon. No wonder they don’t want her in a leadership position. I’m surprised her district in Minnesota keeps re-electing her because MN is known as a moderate state, and she’s anything but.
I’m sure Mr. Deal is licking his chops at the thought of getting his hands on our state money and all the cash from lobbyists. He’ll be out of debt in no tiime.

Rutroh!

November 9th, 2010
9:22 am

Bachmann is HOTTTTTttttt! Enough of the old, grizzled, men being in leadership positions.

Horsecompound

November 9th, 2010
9:30 am

To Observer1: You need to get your head out of the sand. It appears to me that you have been drinking the koolaid. Perhaps, you should get your real facts straight and not the ‘Democrat ‘facts’ ‘. How can you say we were dead last until we got rid of Bush and his cronies. Is that the same kind of thinking that got our current president the Nobel peace price after being in office for just a few weeks. If you believe the dems have righted the ship as you say in just the past two years, then you are dreaming. Put your head back in the sand where it belongs.

Dunwoody Taxpayer

November 9th, 2010
9:42 am

Dunwoody is ready for new Milton County. Jan and Fran will save us from Dekalb.

lmno

November 9th, 2010
9:46 am

Tax Cuts? Thats all he’s got.

Taxes are low already and we are in this mess.

Extending tax cuts will create jobs?

So let me make sure I understand. By keeping the same tax structure that we have been in for the last 8 years, things will improve, even though the unemployment rate rose to this level under that tax structure? Ok, got it. Makes a lot of sense.

The free market can fix this?

Oh, I see. Thats an interesting theory since it was dergulation (specifially the elimination of Glass Steegal) that caused all of this. By allowing Banks to enter into these derivative markets, we made it more profitable (at least short term) for a bank to sell a bad mortgage than a good one.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

td

November 9th, 2010
9:49 am

Observer1

November 9th, 2010
8:53 am

“I want to see 2% unemployment in the state and the nation”

That is going to be impossible since about 25% of the Dems only want Government handouts and do not want to work.

The Snark

November 9th, 2010
10:01 am

I don’t understand this mania for tax cuts, when state government is already so starved for resources that it cannot perform basic functions.

Tax cuts don’t bring in bidness. Companies are looking for places with good schools, good transportation policies, and decent social services. That’s why even high-tax states like Massachusetts have lots of corporate headquarters.

Red

November 9th, 2010
10:11 am

I thought the TEA party meant taxed ENOUGH already. This spiralling mania to cut taxes seems counter to the ‘enough’ part.

NOW WHAT

November 9th, 2010
10:12 am

Anybody want to wage how long it’s gonna take for the gang that could’nt shoot straight AKA GOP to shoot themselves in the foot.I’m betting the first shot.

bart

November 9th, 2010
10:42 am

The Snark, you are 100% correct. GA’s tax rates are already among the lowest in the country. Quality of life issues are what gets businesses to relocate, and GA drags the bottom when it comes to those. Think about the last 8 years. I guess we’ll have more of the same.

GaBlue

November 9th, 2010
10:58 am

Deal very eloquently said nothing at all, except that he’s going to be cautious and careful… heh… good move for those under threat of indictment. Observier1’s grandpa and Dr. Phil are correct: the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Look for Deal to magically erase $4 mil in debt on his $135K/yr salary. No-bid contracts and back-room deals will slide into his plus column faster than the Georgia taxpayers can bend over and grab our ankles. Good Ol’ Boy Political Handbook’s Rule #1: Never run for an office unless you’ve first figured out how to quintuple your net worth in the first term. That way, if you have to resign under ethics charges, you still come out ahead.

Tip: Don’t blame the democrats when your behind is throbbing. Get your own bag o’ frozen peas and pretend it’s what you wanted. It is.

George Bush was really a Democrat

November 9th, 2010
11:05 am

1980-2010 = 30 years

Republican: Presidency from 1980-1992: 12 years: 8 years Reagan (1980-88) 4 years Bush Sr (88-92)

Democrat: 1992-2000: 8 years – Bill Clinton

Republican: 2000-2008: 8 years- GW Bush

Democrat- 2008- Present: Obama 2 years thus far

30 years: GOP presidency for 20 of the past 30 years: 1980-1992, 2000-2008
Democrat: 10 years: 1992-2000, 2008-present

How can one blame President Obama for the current problems in this country, which did not creep up over night, i.e. immigration, healthcare,, large government spending. The GOP was in control of the white house the majority of the past 30 years. What did they do exactly????

Cadence

November 9th, 2010
11:09 am

Last Man Standing, you have a hard time with sarcasm, don’t you? Couldn’t agree more, Observer1, but still hope something, anything, gets done. I’m also quite embarrassed with our state. The comments I see in the AJC, especially The Vent, are so poorly thought out that it surprises me we are not ranked last in education every year….

GaBlue

November 9th, 2010
11:13 am

“The GOP was in control of the white house the majority of the past 30 years. What did they do exactly????”

They redistributed the contents of our treasury (our national wealth) into the pockets of their friends. Hence, fewer people have MUCH more, and more people have less. This is as they intended, but to confuse us, they point the finger at those who have nothing and claim they took it all. (As if!)

missmollie

November 9th, 2010
11:21 am

How do you like the New Deal? “Brave, bold and cautious.” On another issue, our President and First Lady need to come home NOW…They are
seemingly. “brave, bold, but not too cautious”. He needs to nurse his
bruises before the American people…and lay his veto powers down
“cautiously”…

ROBOCOP

November 9th, 2010
11:26 am

Well, td, it looks like Casey Cagle won’t be doing much more than Mark Taylor did when the Senate leadership neutered him. And to think about all this talk about Casey running for Governor. Not in our or his life time. His fellow Republicans sank his ship for good.

Diogenes

November 9th, 2010
11:32 am

Do the math, tax cuts only increase revenues if the tax rate is so high as to encourage tax fraud. That threshold was crossed about 50years ago and no tax cut since has increased revenue for its schedule.

Put very simply: Say you make $100k and are taxed at 25%. You bring home $75k and the government brings in $25k in tax revenue. Very simply. Now cut the tax rate by 10% points…to 15%. Now you bring home $85k and the government brings in $15k in revenue. Firstly, $15k is less than $25k. Secondly, even if you did invest your newly kept dollars or figured out a way to increase your output given the newly kept dollars you would need to do so by a margin that is unheard of. Care to guess how much that $10k would have to earn within the taxable year for the government to break even? About $167,000! How many of you are able to pull off that rate of return every year?

That is one tax category and a simple one. The logic, however, applies across the board.

Tax relief packages are different. Take the tax relief package from 1982…now it did cut some taxes but it also raised a few taxes and expanded the tax base. Of course it raised revenue…but that increase in revenue was not caused by tax cuts it was caused by tax raises and the expansion of the tax base.

Logic and math must be applied when discussing any empirical reality. How can the GOP claim it is really trying to reform anything when they, and the Tea party movement, fall for the same mistakes? And these people think they can reform education! Reform how? by lowering math standards?

ATF

November 9th, 2010
11:34 am

Oh, yes. More tax cuts. They have worked so well so far we should do more of them. We have all these jobs in Georgia now because we cut taxes!

Education needs to be first. Employers won’t come here if we don’t have people with skills they can use. Deal had some good things to say in the run up to the election about improving job skills in the trades. Let’s see him put the State’s money where his mouth is. And, return State funding to local schools and the university system.

Please, someone, tell me why the Univ of Georgia is expanding into areas served by other educational institutions in Georgia, competing with the Medical College of Georgia in Augusta and with Georgia Tech? Has there been some study that shows the current institutions cannot meet the demands for enrollment in the specialties each institution enjoys? We are in a recession, the Hope Scholarship program is in funding trouble, tuitions are still going up. What gives?

One thought regarding personal taxes – because ol Sonny made a point of it and I hope Deal drops it. Forbes already lists Georgia as one of the ten best states for retirees – because of our low taxes and tax breaks given to retirees. If we are already one of the ten best, do we need to do more tax breaks for retirees?

Will

November 9th, 2010
11:47 am

First, let me acknowledge that republicans can do anything they please in Georgia without fear of losing a significant portion of the electorate. Republicans represent the white majority in Georgia and will dominate state politics for the forseeable future.

While acknowleding this, it is disappointing that republicans see the Lt. Gov as the Lt. Gov, not of Georgia, but of the republican majority in the General Assembly. The republicans, not the voters of Georgia, have changed the responsibilities of the office. If Chip Rogers wants to run state politics (as opposed to state government) , wouldn’t it be better for Chip to consider running for state office rather than not leaving the comfort zone of his small electorate?

Chuck Allison

November 9th, 2010
12:13 pm

Sad to say, but we cannot hope to achieve 2% unemployment in this state. When you look at our population, would you be willing to hire the least qualified 2% or the 2% with the worst work ethic?

Alabama Communist

November 9th, 2010
12:25 pm

The Republican Senator Coup consisted of seizing the State of North Carolina and South Carolina as the new nation of Georgia……Local Republican Tea Party Rednecks were reported to be up in Arms since Deal has promise them the State of Alabama

lmno

November 9th, 2010
12:31 pm

Unemployment numbers do not reflect those who are not actively seeking work, so those that claim we cannot achieve some magical number due to “work ethic” or those people who “only want Government handouts and do not want to work” are incorrect.

However, 2% is an incredibly lofty goal and nearly impossible. 5-7% unemployment in this state within the next 8 years would be victory.

However, the state government is run by people who say that the government can’t create jobs, yet quote unemployment figures when those figures benefit them.

the mehlman rings twice

November 9th, 2010
12:57 pm

@Cadence and GaBlue
How right you are! The AJC.com caters to the average Georgia voter with the large print headline about Auburn’s Cam Newton. Listed further down is the story of the troubled state of banking in this state. And we just elected a govenor who personally contributed to the banking problem. From the article, “Georgia leads the nation in bank failures with 46 since 2008.” “Fourteen of the Top 20 Texas ratio (troubled) banks nationally are based in Georgia, …”
The average voter just doesn’t get it when it comes to education and wealth redistribution.

the mehlman rings twice

November 9th, 2010
1:08 pm

And, what of our former president? The darkest moment of his presidency is not the downed WTC skyscrapers or the suffering caused by a hurricane, but is the comments of a washed up rapper!

It’s a good thing our current President, the leader of the free world, has thick enough skin to endure heckling even from a sitting member of Congress and unflattering signs about his ethnicity.

Snafu

November 9th, 2010
1:10 pm

Why don’t you Republicans fess up and admit that the TARP was signed by BUSH not OBAMA! Bush could have vetoed this but instead the opted to sign it and now you want to blame the Democrats. Ignorance is what will take this country down.

And as far as you idiots clamoring about hand outs under the DEMOCRATS..its funny but Bush’s war has caused miltiary families to be on food stamps. And its not just one group on welfare you need to check you facts and figures.
Since the nutjobs wanted to voted these idi0ts back into office without a plan, now you know what their plan is by gutting medicare, medicaid and social security..now what? Happy now!

This is what happens when people vote for party instead of who is better for the people..dummies.

Snafu

November 9th, 2010
1:13 pm

Here we go with the illusions of 2% unemployment. It won’t happen as long as you have these large companies wanting to go overseas and all manufacturing jobs being outsourced. The main thing that needs to be worked on is the EDUCATION system for these people are truly escapee from the mental ward.

Tosh.No

November 9th, 2010
1:21 pm

Steering clear? Must not be any money there for him to steal. And Snafu, please get yourself some education, your grammer is terrible for someone spouting about how this country is not educated. Thanks.

Al Newman

November 9th, 2010
1:30 pm

Powell stinks! As far as Cagle, he had it coming. No body likes him.

Jose

November 9th, 2010
1:56 pm

In Mexiico we don’t have the problems, now there a New deal to steal the money from taxpayers..as long as i get my food stamps for 8 kids and money for the house i stasay here.

td

November 9th, 2010
2:01 pm

ROBOCOP

November 9th, 2010
11:26 am
Well, td, it looks like Casey Cagle won’t be doing much more than Mark Taylor did when the Senate leadership neutered him. And to think about all this talk about Casey running for Governor. Not in our or his life time. His fellow Republicans sank his ship for good.

I would not have supported Cagle in a primary for the same reason I could not support Handel. He does not have a college degree.

catlady

November 9th, 2010
3:08 pm

Deal is running away from the conflict?! Sound familiar? Scurry, scurry, like a roach.

catlady

November 9th, 2010
3:09 pm

Jose: 8 kids by 10 different women, I guess!

Diehard

November 9th, 2010
8:16 pm

How exactly did Deal and Williams go to grade school together when there is a 15 yr age difference between the two?

mickey

November 9th, 2010
8:34 pm

Marsha Blackburn Voted FOR:
Omnibus Appropriations, Special Education, Global AIDS Initiative, Job Training, Unemployment Benefits, Labor-HHS-Education Appropriations, Agriculture Appropriations, FY2004 Foreign Operations Appropriations, U.S.-Singapore Trade, U.S.-Chile Trade, Supplemental Spending for Iraq & Afghanistan, Flood Insurance Reauthorization , Prescription Drug Benefit, Child Nutrition Programs, Surface Transportation, Job Training and Worker Services, Agriculture Appropriations, Foreign Aid, Debt Limit Increase, Fiscal 2005 Omnibus Appropriations, Vocational/Technical Training, Supplemental Appropriations, UN “Reforms.” Patriot Act Reauthorization, CAFTA, Katrina Hurricane-relief Appropriations, Head Start Funding, Line-item Rescission, Oman Trade Agreement, Military Tribunals, Electronic Surveillance, Head Start Funding, COPS Funding, Funding the REAL ID Act (National ID), Foreign Intelligence Surveillance, Thought Crimes “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, Peru Free Trade Agreement, Economic Stimulus, Farm Bill (Veto Override), Warrantless Searches, Employee Verification Program, Body Imaging Screening, Patriot Act extention.

Marsha Blackburn Voted AGAINST:
Ban on UN Contributions, eliminate Millennium Challenge Account, WTO Withdrawal, UN Dues Decrease, Defunding the NAIS, Iran Military Operations defunding Iraq Troop Withdrawal, congress authorization of Iran Military Operations, Withdrawing U.S. Soldiers from Afghanistan.

Marsha Blackburn is my Congressman.
See her unconstitutional votes at :
http://mickeywhite.blogspot.com/2009/09/tn-congressman-marsha-blackburn-votes.html
Mickey

catlady

November 10th, 2010
10:44 am

Diehard: It took the elder one of them a L O N G time to get through grade school!

Rightwing Troll

November 10th, 2010
11:17 am

The hate baggers and conservitards were “swept” back into power with no ideas, no humility, no mea culpa, no acknowledgement of thier complicity in driving the economy into the ditch, nothing but abject racism and outright lies… In other words they’ve learned nothing from the past 10 years, other than “hate makes great”… they are doomed to failure for it, hopefully thier failures won’t be too spectacular this go round, as we all pay the price for thier failures, all of us except thier incumbents…

missmollie

November 10th, 2010
9:31 pm

One thing to always remember: “If you live by the sword, you will die by the sword”…Some of us “don’t know when we are whipped at our own game”… Particularly, the old geezers with their moth eaten dirty tricks…Family dynasty in my neck of the woods is slowly coming to a screeching halt…and rightly so..

Kelly

November 11th, 2010
11:28 am

It is interesting that I see all of this anti Nathan Deal postings, outweighing the pro Deal postings in this and almost every other blog (conservative, liberal, centrists, etc) at almost 2or3 to 1.

Did all of you people vote? Or this another indictment of our modern political system, people (or should I say Sheepople) vote on the last sound byte or local paper headline they heard or saw?

I live in a very rural conservative area of the state, and hardly anyone will own up in voting for Nathan Deal (because at soccer games, school board meetings, church, etc – I ask), yet Deal was elected governor. What’s up Georgia?

missmollie

November 11th, 2010
1:54 pm

A write-in vote, Libertarian vote, or Independent vote would have
been a minority vote or could have caused a runoff. Believe you me
there were a lot of bruised GOPers…that were undecided or didn’t vote
at all. The Governor, KH, Newt, and Huckabee helped swing it.
Deal and Cagle better remain cautious because they both have a lot to overcome…They are wise enough to know that they are going to need all of the help they can get from both parties…