Senate GOP to require pledge of allegiance to state flag

In an apparent nod to state sovereignty, Senate Republicans will require members of their chamber to recite the pledge of allegiance to the state flag of Georgia every morning they gather – after a daily devotional and a pledge to the U.S. flag.

The addition to the chambers’ rituals was adopted Friday at a caucus meeting in Macon, as part of a wholesale change in state rules that included the stripping of Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle of most of his powers.

Both the House and Senate now include a daily sermon and a pledge to the U.S. flag as part of the beginning of each day’s business.

Afterwards, in the House, state Rep. Bobby Franklin (R-Cobb County) has led a small group of GOP lawmakers in a wildcat recitation of the Georgia pledge:

“I pledge allegiance to the Georgia flag and to the principles for which it stands: Wisdom, Justice, and Moderation.”

This afternoon, Franklin said the Senate was highly appropriate, “given the usurpations of Washington.”

“It’s time for the House Leadership to join the Senate and add the Pledge of Allegiance to the Georgia Flag to the House’s morning order of business,” Franklin said.

We’ve obtained copy of a draft of the rule changes, which you can see here.

(The draft does not include a notation of a daily pledge to the state flag. Neither does the draft include Cagle’s two appointments to the Committee on Assignments. Also, simply cross out Section 12.)

From the draft and other sources, we can say the following about the new eight-person Committee on Assignments, the new governing unit of the Senate:

– The Committee on Assignments will name the chairmen of all committees, and will determine the number and identity of all senators who sit on committees;

– Cagle will have two appointments to that committee. Other members will be – as stated before – the President pro tem, the majority leader, the chairman of the majority caucus, the majority caucus vice chairm, and the majority caucus secretary;

– The “hawk” provision that gave the lieutenant governor the power to pack committees with ex officio members – in order to move favored legislation — now shifts to the Committee on Assignments;

– Gubernatorial appointments that require Senate approval will be handled by the Committee on Assignments. You’ll recall that last year, Cagle was blamed for sabotaging Sonny Perdue’s appointment of longtime GOP activist Fred Cooper to a seat on the Board of Regents.

– Cagle will retain the right, as president of the Senate, to preside over the chamber. But should two or more senators rise to speak at the same time, he “shall recognize the President Pro Tempore (Tommie Williams of Lyons), the Majority Leader (Chip Rogers of Woodstock) and the Minority Leader (Robert Brown of Macon), in that order of precedence, should any of them rise to speak, prior to recognizing any other Senator.”

That’s a rule that had been in place during the GOP icing of Lt. Gov. Mark Taylor, a Demcrat.

– Points of personal privilege – opportunities for senators to speak on any topic they want – will be moved to the bottom of the days business. Which could make a long day for 4H groups in the galleries, waiting for a shout-out from their senator.

– In addition to maintaining the limited power to direct legislation to individual committees, Cagle apparently retains the power to name the conference committee members who will negotiate with their House counterpoints over specific pieces of legislation. That’s not a small thing.

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201 comments Add your comment

Ric

November 9th, 2010
3:27 pm

Nice sentiment, but at the end of the day it’s just more political grandstanding.

Texas Pete

November 9th, 2010
3:28 pm

First? seriously?

Irony

November 9th, 2010
3:30 pm

Nothing says moderation like a forced pledge every morning.

Drew

November 9th, 2010
3:33 pm

Cagle did this to himself…..No pity here

mike 'hussein' smith

November 9th, 2010
3:33 pm

A daily sermon? What’s next, goose-stepping?

Darin

November 9th, 2010
3:37 pm

I’m on board for pledging allegiance to wisdom, justice and moderation. Not that the Georgia GOP has any of these three attributes in mind, but…

The General

November 9th, 2010
3:38 pm

Wonder how many times they’ll pray to Allah, or Zeus, or Poseidon? What a bunch of putz’s…

you_r_kidding_me

November 9th, 2010
3:39 pm

This crappy state never fails to amaze. First we elect a common criminal, a con man for pete’s sake as governor, and now this blathering ballyhoo. It’s official, the state government of Georgia has officially gone straight to hell. Oh well at least one ray of hope. I’m quite sure that at some time during his term our new governor (along with his little a$$ kissing, crooked chief of staff will both be placed under indictment once the full scale of their past and future crimes are made public. Trust me, come January the governor’s office will be available to the highest bidder. There will be no telling what these fools will get up to. I hope the democrats have started looking around for some good watchdogs because they’re going to have their hands full.

Bubba

November 9th, 2010
3:48 pm

A pledge to wisdom, justice and moderation? I hope they mean it!

BlahBlahBlah

November 9th, 2010
3:50 pm

Pure foolishness. Welcome to Georgia, where words speak louder than actions!

gerald foskey

November 9th, 2010
3:51 pm

I understand that Nathan and his chief of staff have formed their new business venture: Deal/Riley Gold Dome Ventures, LLC.

Question Man

November 9th, 2010
3:53 pm

Are you serious with this post? Is it April 1 already? Are we in trouble, or what?

[...] From my colleague Jim Galloway at Political Insider: [...]

Observer1

November 9th, 2010
3:56 pm

Wow unbelivable! Now I see why we threw this jerks out in 2008. And here we go again. Now they dont even respect the US flag. Are we in Nazi Germany now. Only in Georgia would the a body of Government refuse to recite the REAL Pledge of Allegiance, just because they dont like who lives in the White House. I cant recall not one time when the GOP, Bush and Cheney were running the country in the ground and stealing every dime did s Democrat say we no longer respect the US Pledge of Allegiance.
Just incomprehensible that such a rule was even suggested by these idiots, but what do you expect from a bunch of misfits who call themeselves respresentatives of the people. To stripped the LT. Gov of his ceremonial power because you dont like him is just petrid to me. They dont even like repubs who dont think according to thier way. Georgia, YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR>>>> WE ARE GOING BACKWARDS IN THIS STATE. But hey this stat is full of backwards, dumb, redneck who still think its 1877.

three jack

November 9th, 2010
3:57 pm

update to gerald foskey post: Deal/Riley just secured a $2M non-collateralized loan from {fill in the blank} Community Bank and on their first day of operation were awarded a multi-million dollar no bid state contract.

three jack

November 9th, 2010
4:00 pm

if these sanctimonious gop ‘leaders’ were so disappointed in cagle, why didn’t they either step up to run against him or at the very least, throw their support behind carol porter?

how about they do something real and eliminate the lt. governor’s position saving millions in wasted expenses.

GaBlue

November 9th, 2010
4:04 pm

They’ll pledge allegiance, to the Plutocracy, of the Corporate States of America. And to the megaconglomerates, to which it was sold, one party, in charge of the state, with prisons, and Talibaptist rules for all. Amen.

L.

November 9th, 2010
4:10 pm

Next thing you will know, African-American will be called Negroes once again, and the Confederate Flag will rise at the Capitol grounds.

Jane

November 9th, 2010
4:10 pm

Moderation, heck no, sounds like a RINO talking

dawg

November 9th, 2010
4:18 pm

The pledge and a sermon. How freaking silly and a what waste of taxpayer money. The Senate and House need to focus on these big problems – high unemployment in GA, traffic congestion, low test scores and APS cheating, GA’s water problem, and the State’s broken promise to tax payers to end the GA 400 toll in 2011.

Rich

November 9th, 2010
4:25 pm

You people voted them in. The GOP is a huge joke. As long as they push baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet, the no brain cousin humpers here in GA will vote for them. Oh and let’s not forget to do everything we can to make sure the Gay folks move back to San Francisco. Maybe that witch from Delaware will come down and make all the masturbater’s go away. Yee haw!!!

GaBlue

November 9th, 2010
4:27 pm

dawg,

Relax!! They will address NONE of those issues, continuing the tradition of 8 solid years of Republican “leadership” of this state. They will do absolutely nothing of any useful value to anyone other than themselves and their own financial advancements, and they will continue to blame Democrats and poor people for these problems. Furthermore, there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it. Zip, zilch, nodda. The only chance Georgia had died last Tuesday, when we could have voted a little “free market competition” into the government, so they’d be forced to try to out-solve each other once in awhile to compete for little gold stars. With one-party rule and zero checks or balances, the government monopoly rolls over on us, sucks our money from our pockets, and gives us absolutely nothing in return. Congrats y’all! This is your state.

lifecrystalkid

November 9th, 2010
4:38 pm

I still can’t believe Deal was voted into office… it’s like a nightmare… come true? *smh*

Maybe I should seriously consider moving out of the state…

Bob

November 9th, 2010
4:39 pm

What a great idea! I am glad there are some people with some sense in state government like Mr. Franklin et al.

If you have a problem with swearing allegiance to Georgia, why don’t you get the hell out? Thank you.

Darwin

November 9th, 2010
4:39 pm

What’s the difference in one party rule if the votes want it that way?

humble pie

November 9th, 2010
4:39 pm

Where on earth are the tea partiers defending these clowns. They are surprisingly absent in their posts. They were talking plenty of bs before the midterms. Have not heard a peep from them since…. What’s up wit dat?

police911

November 9th, 2010
4:42 pm

The “South” GA Will fall again! Even lower than a dime’s wedge…

Douglas

November 9th, 2010
4:49 pm

“Observer” read the text! They will say the state pledge AFTER the pledge to the stars and stripes, for God’s sake!

Douglas

November 9th, 2010
4:52 pm

What is REALLY going to be fun is, should Mr. Deal get indicted and have to step down, guess who gets to be Governor? The Senate leadership might just reap a righteous whirlwind from a Gov. CAGLE. That will be some show. Bring popcorn!

Douglas

November 9th, 2010
4:53 pm

And perhaps if they recite the pledge often enough, they might think to actually practice moderation, show wisdom, and work for justice. I ain’t holdin’ my breath on that one, though!

Trey

November 9th, 2010
4:58 pm

Well, at least the Dems aren’t in office! I wish the Libertarians were in power, but at least it’s not the Democrats.

GaBlue

November 9th, 2010
4:59 pm

To all the “you can just leave” people: Unlike my rich yankee Congressman, I am actually FROM here. My family and my roots are here. I’m not leaving, and I’m not turning “red” just to fit in with YOUR idea of what Georgia is “supposed” to be. Newsflash: The soldiers burned this state down, but they didn’t run us out. Now the Neo-Confederates wants to run the actual thinking people out of here? Good luck, azzholes. If we burn the state down again, will YOU leave? I’m not leaving, and I’m not giving in to the Retardo epidemic that threatens us all. Suck your Pekoe leaves, numbnuts. With your arrogance and stupidity, you’ll dig your own graves like you did 150 years ago. I can wait.

Eric

November 9th, 2010
5:00 pm

Would be nice if business would allow its employees a few minutes each day to pray and recite to the flag(s). But, no, that would be considered “unproductive” time, inappropriate to the work place when we’re supposed to be serving customers and making profits for the boss. I have to work weekends too, so where is time/place for civic pride?

eli

November 9th, 2010
5:08 pm

Does this strike anybody as inherently undemocratic? Everyone has the right, as a citizen, to not recite the pledge. Requiring it seems…un-American.

Trey

November 9th, 2010
5:13 pm

eli, we are not a Democracy but a Republic.

Peachtree Pete

November 9th, 2010
5:22 pm

That’s some really important stuff there, man, whoop-ti-do. Remind me again why we have a state legislature?

Lum

November 9th, 2010
5:22 pm

Hey Trey? You’re a poseur.

Trey

November 9th, 2010
5:25 pm

Lum, having to resort to insults? How am I a “poseur”? Don’t talk crap junk if you can’t back it up. Lum? What kind of name is that?

Trey

November 9th, 2010
5:27 pm

Lum, what do you do for a living anyway? My bet is probably nothing as you just start trying to insult me out of no where. You are probably a welfare sucker who leaches off of society.

Travis McGee

November 9th, 2010
5:27 pm

When will they pass out the brown shirts?

Art Vandelay

November 9th, 2010
5:27 pm

So, what are these backwoods knuckle-draggers going to do when someone refuses to recite their pledge and sit through a sermon?

Trey

November 9th, 2010
5:29 pm

GaBlue, I don’t think many people want to try and run you out, as you have as much right to be here as anyone else who comes here legally.

Red

November 9th, 2010
5:29 pm

Which state of Georgia are we referring to? Businesses and special interests or the actual people who elect these bozos? “Require”? What are the consequences if one says no? No stripclub passes? No bills passed to benefit their business or land holdings? Country club membership revocation? An “ignore” from the lobbyists with the perks and handouts?

GaBlue

November 9th, 2010
5:31 pm

Trey, we WERE a Republic. Now we’re a defacto Plutocracy disguised as a non-democratic republic. The day the Supremes said that foreign conglomerates can buy as much of our government as they want, the voices of the people were rendered moot. If you don’t shovel million$ at the leaders who set the agendas our so-called representatives follow, you’re not actually represented. Only if you already agree with their actions is the illusion temporarily possible.

Trey

November 9th, 2010
5:32 pm

Art, name calling is not right. Haha, but in all seriousness, I don’t know what will happen. I personally don’t believe forcing regular citizens to recite the pledge is good. I do think that the people who work in a government institution should be required, judge, mayors and etc. I do think the regular citizens should at least stand up out of respect.

Trey

November 9th, 2010
5:33 pm

GaBlue, yeah, you are right. The government, left or right are both just in it for the money and don’t represent what our country was initially supposed to be, as a Republic.

Last Man Standing

November 9th, 2010
5:36 pm

Let’s see . . . .

Not much new here . . . .

Same liberals venting (lamenting) the great loss, taking shots at conservatives and resolving nothing but their frustrations.

Tune in tomorrow, same time, same station, for the same stuff . . .

Rich

November 9th, 2010
5:39 pm

Southerners are dumb.

GaBlue

November 9th, 2010
5:46 pm

Trey, yes, both parties are bought and paid for. They just sell different illusions to the voters. They throw wedge issues at us to divide us over things that are insignificant in the big picture. From the looks of things, this tactic is quite successful.

Kevin

November 9th, 2010
5:50 pm

A daily sermon? WTF? Did they not read the Constitution? The first Amendment is about keeping religion out of Government. Starting your daily Government work with a sermon is not what our founding fathers had in mind!