Newly re-elected Casey Cagle faces a palace coup

Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle, right, gets a high five from a supporter on election night. Curtis Compton ccompton@ajc.com

Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle, right, gets a high five from a supporter on election night. Curtis Compton ccompton@ajc.com

You are Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle and have just won re-election by an impressive margin.

Your GOP cushion in the Senate has increased by one, to 35 members out of 56. So how do you celebrate?

By fighting a palace coup.

We understand that ranking Republican members of the Senate – including President pro tem Tommie Williams of Lyons, Majority Leader Chip Rogers of Woodstock, and Cecil Staton of Macon – have served notice on Cagle that they will attempt to curb his single-handed power to control that chamber’s affairs.

In other words, they want to render him a figurehead a la Mark Taylor.

Details about motivation for the move are still lacking. The issue will be raised among senators at a Friday caucus meeting that will introduce newly elected senators to their colleagues. Cagle will not be permitted to attend.

But in one-on-one conversations, look for Cagle to argue that stripping him of his powers would reduce the Senate to a third wheel in the legislative process that begins in January.

Gov. Nathan Deal and House Speaker David Ralston won’t have the patience to negotiate with a Senate committee, he’s sure to say. They’ll simply take advantage of the resulting chaos.

The argument from the other side: What use is there in a committee chairmanship if all a lobbyist needs to do to pass a bill is to knock on Cagle’s door?

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62 comments Add your comment

Mr. KnowitAll

November 4th, 2010
11:47 am

Constitutional Conservatives remember Cagle inserted just enough confusion to abort the the whole birthday ad valorum tax. We haven’t forgotten.

To the rest of the Senate chamber better remember—we are awake, and watching now. Vary from conservative principles and be prepared to pay the price.

please

November 4th, 2010
11:47 am

cagle is a total good without a college degree anyway, so this is probably a good move

please

November 4th, 2010
11:48 am

i meant “goof” above

Voter

November 4th, 2010
11:48 am

I agree with the senators, Rodgers, Staton, and Williams that this should be done. The Senate was much more affective when they work that way when Mark Taylor was Lt.Gov. I know of many Republican activist that vote for Carol Porter just for this reason. Cagle is the main reason that Republican have not been able to accomplish the things that should have acommplish in past session.

[...] Galloway reports that Casey Cagle may soon become Mark Taylor: We understand that ranking Republican members of the Senate – including President pro tem Tommie [...]

ROBOCOP

November 4th, 2010
11:54 am

Oh, oh!!! Looks like Casey’s going to have to pay penance for his past, poor leadership and his preoccupation with “cute lil’ thangs.” Tsk..tsk..!!!

Jon

November 4th, 2010
11:59 am

Good.

Cagle’s “leadership” has led the state legislature to accomplish nothing during his term. I voted for Porter, knowing that she would be marginalized by the GOP legislature. That didn’t work out. If they want to marginalize Cagle now, I fully support that.

Mrs. Glenn Richardson

November 4th, 2010
12:05 pm

He’s got my hubby’s vote.

pn

November 4th, 2010
12:13 pm

Casey is the good ol’ boys’ good ol’ boy. Strut around and show the guys how many nitwit women you have in your harem. Yuck.

BALANCE

November 4th, 2010
12:13 pm

Well, great. We will all be watching for this to be done. In addition, we will be watching for any frivolous legislation, tax payer waste and skirt chasing. Legislators beware. We will be watching Dems and Republicans. Ditch your girlfriends now! We are watching and we will tell on all of you that your actions will not be watched closely.

Sherwin Williams

November 4th, 2010
12:14 pm

Will this inhibit his ability to do the Hair in a Can aerosol commercial?

That spray paint fools me every time.

BALANCE

November 4th, 2010
12:14 pm

I meant to say all of your actions will be watched closely. Just beware. I have Mrs. Cagle’s number on speed dial.

Capitol Avenue Cal

November 4th, 2010
12:16 pm

Maybe you should learn how to spell “valorem” as a good first step.

Class of '68

November 4th, 2010
12:19 pm

The office of Lt. Governor is uselss and a waste of money. Allow the Senate to elect it’s leadership, just like the House, and do away with this stupid office.

Chipster

November 4th, 2010
12:21 pm

Chip Rodgers here…can’t take over the world , dismantle public education, dismantle any social services, and make the poor poorer and line my own pockets with anyone in my way….good bye Casey…I am out to strike you out.

capinsider

November 4th, 2010
12:26 pm

If Porter couldn’t get elected, this is the next best thing. Serves him right!

The Change we need

November 4th, 2010
12:46 pm

If you strip Casey of his power in the Senate and give it to two or three other power mongers what has changed? These three aren’t to be trusted, I am told. Just ask David Shafer. He told me so! Ofcourse he also told Jim Galloway! Just sayin’. I say boot ‘em all and elect some of those new FreshMEN. Oh, wait, they were bought off at dinner Monday night. Nevermind.

Double Zero Eight

November 4th, 2010
12:52 pm

Do whatever it takes to pass meaningful and effective legislation. We want no excuses………no ifs, ands and buts.

why now?

November 4th, 2010
12:54 pm

I’m not some insider – why am I hearing about some of these conflicts now? why not earlier? How did I miss this? I really need to know what to do to get this info BEFORE an election…

Boot them all

November 4th, 2010
12:55 pm

Isn’t it funny how things work out. This is proof that you can’t continue to bluff the people of Georgia, all the while cheating with an aide without getting punished. If he doesn’t watch out it will be another Richardson scenario. In fact, it appears as if they already have the ball rolling!!!

Alma Childrens

November 4th, 2010
1:04 pm

So, stripping the Lt. Gov. of his powers was a good thing when Mark Taylor was in office, but is a poor choice with Mr. Cagle in office. Well, gosh, that makes perfect sense and doesn’t at all reek of partisanship. Thank God Georgia has such ethical and thoughtful leadership!

Deputy Dan

November 4th, 2010
1:05 pm

If the 3 amigos wanted to run the senate – why didn’t one of them run for lieutenant governor?

Miss X

November 4th, 2010
1:07 pm

He sure has a nice smile. :-)

Fulton Resident

November 4th, 2010
1:07 pm

@Boot them all

Love how you have nothing intelligent to say – so you bring up false rumors to feel important.

Honest Abe

November 4th, 2010
1:07 pm

Casey also joined with Sonny-boy in rebuffing the one-time, $100 property tax cut the House offered the Senate when the state had an enormous surplus. Taxpayers would have actually gotten a TAX CUT under Republican control, something we haven’t seen since the GOP assumed power under the Gold Dome. But it was not to be with Casey running the other/upper chamber. His recent TV commercials were an insult to our intelligence.

J Throckmorton Malcontent

November 4th, 2010
1:13 pm

The GOP is already well on the way to solving Georgia’s problems. A broke, unemployed, homeless man, Nathan Deal, has been provided with a job and fully subsidized government housing. On the faith-based healthcare front, a man suffering from a severe back injury, Casey Cagle, has shown himself capable of vigorous and prolonged physical activity.

Douglas

November 4th, 2010
1:14 pm

Well, this will give him more time to get his back all better.

bart

November 4th, 2010
1:23 pm

This may be a good thing except the 3 Amigos behind this move can’t be trusted either.

Karl Marx

November 4th, 2010
1:36 pm

Amen Bart, President pro tem Tommie Williams of Lyons, Majority Leader Chip Rogers of Woodstock, and Cecil Staton of Macon all need to be taken down a few notches. They are all tax and spend big government bureaucrats. Lower taxes and smaller government what a joke……..

Road Scholar

November 4th, 2010
1:43 pm

But, but, but…Casey saved us from placing a sales tax on groceries…that a Repub thought was a good idea! This may be the “Bend Over” legislative session!

Jim S.

November 4th, 2010
2:04 pm

Pretty harsh stuff…I would wager that a lot of the criticism lodged at our Lt. Governor might also apply to those pointing the fingers. Hopefully, the general assembly will concentrate on the issues that matter to most Georgians when all is said and done; educating our children, developing policies that foster business and job growth and don’t wreck our environment, properly funding programs that are necessary and useful, cutting or eliminating programs that are wasteful and ineffective, and achieving fairness and simplicity in our mehtods of revenue collection.

Other than that, all of the personal attacks don’t mean squat to most of us.

Jim S.

November 4th, 2010
2:06 pm

Pretty harsh stuff…I would wager that a lot of the criticism lodged at our Lt. Governor might also apply to those pointing the fingers. Hopefully, the general assembly will concentrate on the issues that matter to most Georgians when all is said and done; educating our children, developing policies that foster business and job growth and don’t wreck our environment, properly funding programs that are necessary and useful, cutting or eliminating programs that are wasteful and ineffective, and achieving fairness and simplicity in our methods of revenue collection.

Other than that, all of the personal attacks don’t mean squat to most of us.

charlie n SGa

November 4th, 2010
2:08 pm

When you have a committe on immigration with 14 friends and no one from the other side you need to lose power, I think the Ga republican party is becoming the national democratic party,,, arrogant

catlady

November 4th, 2010
2:09 pm

Dan, don’t you dare use the word “amigo” to describe Chip! That is like spitting on his grandmother!

WAW

November 4th, 2010
2:13 pm

Breaks up the “Hall County State of Georgia” that makes sense If Porter had been elected they would have done the same thing so six of one – half dozen of the other.

Drew

November 4th, 2010
2:15 pm

Let’s be honest, Casey did himself in with the whole faithful thing. The Senate is smart enough to see how far that issue took the House a couple years ago. The Frat boys are going or gone and men and women of character are demanding real leadership.

Atlantan

November 4th, 2010
2:15 pm

Sounds good to me – this conservative voted for the Libertarian LT. Gov on Tuesday.

Capital Louise

November 4th, 2010
2:28 pm

You don’t have the whole picture. Everyone around the cap is talking about this but you have to include Senator Bill Cowsert, Senator David Shafer, and Senator Mitch Seabaugh too. This is bigger than just the three mentioned. All of us would love to be a fly on the wall at the meeting tomorrow!

Debbie Dooley

November 4th, 2010
2:34 pm

This is great!!

Cabaret

November 4th, 2010
2:39 pm

Welcome to the Cabaret! I am Casey and I am your emcee.

Debbie Dooley

November 4th, 2010
2:44 pm

Cagle has been part of the problem in the Senate. He had way too much power…He pushed the Fees bill through the Senate. I am glad to see this take place…

Boot them all

November 4th, 2010
2:53 pm

@Fulton Resident- believe what you will. What if I told you that I was the one that caught Casey fair and square in his office while an aide was “tying his shoe”…..?? I really don’t care if you don’t believe it. One day the truth will come out…WHY do you think he broke down crying in his press conference and very suddenly backed out of the Governor’s race? Hmmmm, maybe it’s because he showed up thinking he was picking up a check and they had pictures of him and her. Believe what you will..Like I said, the truth will come out one of these days!! Believe what you will…..He apparently has you snowed!!

N GA Bubba

November 4th, 2010
4:34 pm

Remember the Tom Murphy days? Well, they are back. The legislature will hold the power in this state. As a Congressman, Deal was a back bencher to Gingrich, then he was a party loyalist to Speaker Hastert. Deal has never led anything bigger than a sub-committee in 20 years in Congress. In the legislature in the 1980’s he was a loyalist to Murphy. Keep your eye on the legislature, not Governor’s office.

N GA Bubba

November 4th, 2010
4:36 pm

Oh, and the state capitol is 100 percent under one party control now. The Speaker is from North Georgia and the Lt. Gov did not run for higher office. Is this dejua vu’ or what?

td

November 4th, 2010
4:52 pm

N GA Bubba

November 4th, 2010
4:34 pm
Remember the Tom Murphy days? Well, they are back. The legislature will hold the power in this state. As a Congressman, Deal was a back bencher to Gingrich, then he was a party loyalist to Speaker Hastert. Deal has never led anything bigger than a sub-committee in 20 years in Congress. In the legislature in the 1980’s he was a loyalist to Murphy. Keep your eye on the legislature, not Governor’s office.

And this is a bad thing?

PP

November 4th, 2010
5:57 pm

I can’t believe that the potential argument against this is that Deal “won’t have the patience” to deal directly with the Senate. If that’s the case, then Deal will be subverting half of our legislature which is not only morally and politically wrong, but insulting to those of us who feel that governmental powers were split among the Governor, the House, and the Senate FOR A REASON.

Joy McGraw

November 4th, 2010
6:04 pm

Some are willing to forgive & forget but once you are…you’re always that way.

Randolph Phillips

November 4th, 2010
6:07 pm

I am a former legislator, and very much support a House and Senate independent of the Governor, whoever the Governor might be. A legislative body is only as strong and independent as it’s leader. A strong Lt. Governor is good for Georgia, and good for the Senate.

I’m sure Zell Miller regretted for many years his decision in 1975 to reduce the Lt. Governor’s position to figurehead–the first Lt. Governor in History to give up actual presiding authority in the Senate. The power was given to a committee of three, including the President pro tem, and for the next eight years the Governor controlled the Senate, not the Lt. Governor.

Two of the committee of three were very close to the Governor, and so even if Zell Miller had wanted to prevent one of the most disastrous decisions in state history–killing the two-term Governor amendment which allows Governors to succeed themselves–he could not have done so. The President pro tem and one of the other two members of the triumvirate which ran the Senate as Zell “presided” were both loyalists to the Governor, who routinely got his way. All Zell Miller could do was nod his head.

I know, I was in the House of Representatives at the time.

This a bad idea, and a power grab. One wonders if Eric Johnson–who ran the Senate while Mark Taylor looked on–had any input into this scheme.

People should write their Senator and urge him to oppose this bad idea.

Dick in Gainesville

November 4th, 2010
7:23 pm

Looks like a good idea to me.. Casey is just too busy getting his shoe laces tied to be bothered by state business.

Hugh Jass

November 4th, 2010
7:57 pm

Let’s face it….Casey Cagle is just not very bright. He is a barrier to an effective Senate. He is as bad or worse than Glenn Richardson, Mark Burkhalter and Sonny Perdue. At least, those guys have a college degree and some intelligence. I wish someone had taken the long discussed “dirt” on Cagle and run for Lt. Governor. As things stand, I hope the ethics accusation is fully investigated (believing Casey will be exposed…no pun) and the Senate strips him of power. This will make for better government in the short run and hopefully ensure this dullard never becomes Governor.