Your Sunday jolt: Tea party shirts, hats, buttons barred from Georgia voting sites
Tea party enthusiasts are livid over a ruling by Secretary of State Brian Kemp that shirts, hats and buttons with tea party logos won’t be allowed in polling places on Tuesday.
From the Chattanooga Times Free Press:
The loose organization claims to be nonpartisan, but its endorsements in several races are mostly Republicans and Libertarians.
James Groce, head of the Walker County Tea Party, said he was kicked out of a Chickamauga voting precinct last week for wearing a Walker County Tea Party shirt.
He said he was allowed to vote after calling the elections office and threatening to call U.S. marshals. He said the shirt does not promote any candidate or party affiliation.
“I said, ‘Where do you see Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or Independent on my T-shirt?’” Groce said. “If you’re being told that you need to go change clothes before you vote … that is a violation of civil rights.”
Walker County Elections Supervisor Barbara Berry said that, when she first called the secretary of state’s office, she was told that allowing or disallowing tea party gear would be a local decision.
On Friday, however, the state office held a statewide web conference to explain that tea party paraphernalia should not be allowed.
“The word from the secretary of state’s office is that no one can wear the tea party shirts, buttons or hats into our polling places,” Berry explained.
Matt Carrothers, a spokesman for the secretary of state’s office, said state law covers more than just political parties and candidates’ names.
He cited a section of Georgia code that states: “No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign literature, newspaper, booklet, pamphlet, card, sign, paraphernalia, or any other written or printed matter of any kind” inside any polling place.
Debbie Dooley of the Atlanta Tea Party called last night to say that she’d just finished a long conversation with Kemp – and is demanding that all other clothing with messages from labor unions, the National Rifle Association and Georgia Right to Life also be banned.
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That avoiding a runoff has become a central focus of Nathan Deal, the Republican nominee for governor, was made clear in the second of two televised debates on Saturday.
From the Fox 5 confrontation, via the Associated Press:
In something of a surprise, Deal tossed a question to John Monds, asking the Libertarian – who has said he supports decriminalizing marijuana – whether he would also support such a move for “harder drugs” and prostitution. Monds said he would not.
There is some concern the Libertarian could draw enough votes to send the race into a runoff and Deal seemed to have his eye on cutting into Monds’ support.
A poll published Sunday by the AJC and the Georgia Newspapers Partnership shows Monds drawing a crucial 6 percent of the vote.The survey shows Deal at 47 percent and Democrat Roy Barnes at 40 percent.
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Democrat Roy Barnes’s top media guy gave a harsh assessment of his candidate’s chances to the New York Times on Saturday:
Georgia voters would be hard-pressed to recognize Raymond D. Strother. But as a veteran of political advertising — writing the scripts, editing the sound, directing the actors — he provides the most direct contact they may ever have with a Democratic candidate. It is the quintessential behind-the-scenes job, with Mr. Strother, 70, an avuncular Texan, working in a small recording studio beside a bowling alley and a strip club, with one assistant.
“No, I never even thought about running for office myself,” he said. “I’m too blunt.”
Blunt, for example, when he handicaps the outlook for Mr. Barnes: “All things being equal, it will be very hard for a Democrat to win Georgia,” he said. “In focus groups, people say, ‘Sure, your opponent’s a crook — but he’s a Republican and I’m voting for him.’ ” Polls show Mr. Barnes slightly behind his Republican opponent, Nathan Deal, a former congressman whom the Barnes campaign has tried — with limited success — to paint as corrupt.
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U.S. Rep. Jim Marshall’s voting record and his efforts to separate himself from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has been a focus of the contest for the 8th Congressional District. Mike Stucka had these paragraphs in Saturday’s Macon Telegraph:
Claims by the National Republican Congressional Committee that Marshall votes with Pelosi “almost 90 percent of the time” come from a Washington Post analysis of how often Marshall voted with his own party in the last two years. But a vote with other Democrats isn’t necessarily the same thing as a vote specifically with Pelosi. As speaker of the House, Pelosi, following tradition, votes only on select or major bills.
The Telegraph looked at how often Marshall voted with Pelosi — since she’s been House speaker — when Pelosi and House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, cast opposing votes on substantive legislation. The Telegraph analysis — of 2.5 million House votes — shows that Marshall has backed Pelosi 60.6 percent of the time and Boehner 39.4 percent of the time when Pelosi and Boehner disagreed on a measure.
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Jeff
October 31st, 2010
11:49 am
So Nathan Deal exposes himself – yet again – as a man who can NOT be trusted with our most basic rights.
If you do not have the right to own yourself and your property, you have NO rights. By suggesting that we do not own our own bodies, Shady Deal shows his utter and complete hatred of all humans – not just those he considers “ghetto grandmothers”.
Give Nathan the Third Finger and Vote Monds!
AngryVoter
October 31st, 2010
11:53 am
Gotta love how Barnes and his paid staffers run to the liberal media and say things about us that they wouldn’t say in GA. They love to present us as ill-informed hicks, don’t they?
They did it with the flag issue. (People here are too racist to accept a flag change, which is why Barnes lost, when we all know Barnes lost because he did a poor job.) Cleland did it with the patriotism claim. And now Barnes is doing it by trying to paint us as blindly voting for a Rep, no matter what.
Georgians will not vote for Barnes. It has nothing to do with the fact he is a Dem. The Dems had a chance to nominate an electable candidate and chose to nominate Barnes. The Reps had a chance to nominate an electable candidate, and they didn’t nominate the unelectable Ox. The election was lost in that primary. Had the Reps nominated Ox and the Dems nominated anyone else, the Dem would have won. Heck, any other Dem would likely have also beat Deal.
This is what Roy says about us to his liberal elite friends. He must think we aren’t smart enough to read the NY Times. Maybe he hasn’t experienced the Internet?
Ralph
October 31st, 2010
11:58 am
Oh boy – lots of AJC bias here.
1. NO political buttons, T-shirts, or campaigning is allowed at polling places. That includes Democrats, Jim – not your favorite targets.
2. The AJC and Georgia newspaper partnership poll is left biased. Other polls now show Deal at 50%, and there are not undecided votes by Wednesday when they are all counted (except for Fulton County which will still be counting dead peoples votes). Some voters are likely to back away from Monds to make their votes count. Deal is likely to avoid a runoff.
3. Quoting the rabidly leftist New York Times is right up the AJC’s alley. There is even a website dedicated to expose the NYT’s liberal slant – http://www.mrc.org/timeswatch/
The AJC is too small to be noticed, but your continued shilling using Barne’s media guy calling Deal a crook even had the NYT comment: “Mr. Barnes slightly behind his Republican opponent, Nathan Deal, a former congressman whom the Barnes campaign has tried — with limited success — to paint as corrupt.” The AJC has also had limited success. And the part about Barnes being “slightly behind” will be laughable if Deal wins by a landslide.
Terrance D.
October 31st, 2010
12:00 pm
I know I’m going to need a long shower after voting to wash of all the dirt and crud.
RE-ELECT NOBODY!
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
12:11 pm
A new poll released Sunday shows Republican Nathan Deal with a 7-point lead over Democrat Roy Barnes in Georgia’s gubernatorial race heading into Tuesday’s general election.
Deal pulled 47 percent of the vote compared with 40 percent for Barnes, according to the poll by Mason-Dixon Polling and Research Inc. Libertarian John Monds garnered 6 percent of the vote. Seven percent of voters were undecided.
The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
Deal is below the 50 percent plus one of the vote needed to avoid a runoff under Georgia law. But a spokesman predicted undecided voters would break in favor of the former congressman from Gainesville.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
12:18 pm
Was the result of this poll reported in the AJC? If it was, I missed seeing it!
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
12:19 pm
As I said yesterday . . . you can stick a fork in Marshall: he’s done.
gm
October 31st, 2010
12:26 pm
Last Man Standing: There have been 2 hours of wait in lines, at Dem areas.
I can not wait to see these Rep face, when Barnes beat that bigot deal, any body who stands with a man that voted against the voted rights act to surpress a people to vote are bunch of racist hicks from the south and Un America.
This is why Blacks Latino, Muslims came out in large Numbers, Deal does not respresent the way Georiga looks.
Sharia Lawyer
October 31st, 2010
12:26 pm
The signs are out there that Nathan Deal does not have good judgement in financial decisions. Don’t say we weren’t warned. Remember that Bill Clinton admitted to Leslie Stahl that he had caused pain in his marriage. We knew what he meant. South Carolina govenor Mark Sanford objected to the fidelity part of his marriage vows. Again, the voters ignored it and were embarrassed. Don’t say we weren’t warned.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
12:29 pm
The AJC only said that the “survey shows Deal at 47 percent and Democrat Roy Barnes at 40 percent”. I guess you could say the AJC “covered” it! They just left out some crucial parts of it!
gm
October 31st, 2010
12:32 pm
Most Dem are not voting for Marshal he is nothing but a Rep in sheep clothing, instead of him telling thise idiots conservatives how Dem saved this country from going deeper in the toilet, he tried to please these tea party Anti Fake Americans. .
Catoosa County Patriot
October 31st, 2010
12:33 pm
I am a local Tea Party coordinator in Catoosa County. The article by in the Times Free press is terribly flawed with misrepresentations and incorrect statements. First, Mr. Groce is a friend of mine. He told me that the reporter completely twisted his statement as well as adding opinions of his own. The reporter’s words… “The loose organization claims to be nonpartisan, but its endorsements in several races are mostly Republicans and Libertarians’ I would like to know which group he is referring to and whom they endorsed? Also, Mr. Groce was not “kicked out”. He asked the poll worker to step outside to discuss the matter. He was allowed to re-enter after the poll workers contacted the SOS office who told them his Tea Party shirt would be okay. He did not vote that day. He took his wife to vote early and happened to be wearing one of his Walker County Tea Party shirts that he wears often.
Secondly..As far as I know, no one in Catoosa County has been harassed for wearing patriotic clothing….yet. One of the Catoosa County Election board members had initially told me that patriotic clothing would not be allowed, then a few days later after he spoke with the SOS office, he told me as long as the clothing did not say “Vote For” that it would be allowed. How are they going to police bumper stickers? Are they going to post parking lot monitors at each polling place? I would like for the Secretary of State’s office to state why they initially allowed patriotic clothing, and then did a 180. Which time did their legal experts get it wrong? Also, What about P.A.C. groups like NOW ACORN, NRA, Right to life, etc.?
the mehlman rings twice
October 31st, 2010
12:34 pm
Chain of events after the election:
1. Deal sworn in as govenor.
2. Supporter agrees to “purchase” Deal’s home above the asking price and claim that it was a steal.
3. Deal uses the “profit” to pay off part of his loan by the Feb. 1, 2011 due date.
4. If Deal is kicked out of office he will “repurchase” home at discount amout.
5. If Deal serves out his term, he will by then be a wealthy man.
6. Either way, problem solved.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
12:36 pm
gm:
I’m not going to try to explain the issues you raised. You have decided how you will vote and you have determined that Barnes will be the winner. No amount of explanation or logical argument is going to affect you. The truth, however, will hit you squarely in the face very late Tuesday night or early Wednesday morning. I suspect that if you show up on this blog after that time, it will be with a brand new screen name.
Have a nice day.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
12:41 pm
Catoosa County Patriot:
“What about P.A.C. groups like NOW ACORN, NRA, Right to life, etc.?”
One fact that you can coount on is that the U.S. DOJ will NOT prohibit “ACORN” garb!
B. Thenet
October 31st, 2010
12:41 pm
Another blog post, another comment by Ralph whining about how unfair life is for the entrenched party of the large corporate business interests.
Ralph, you are probably the same guy who thinks Christmas is being stolen if one town has to have a mennorah alongside a Christmas Tree, despite the fact that 85% of the country celebrates it and practically the entire country shuts down for that holiday.
the mehlman rings twice
October 31st, 2010
12:48 pm
You Atlanta Tea Party people have done it now! You are now on record for opposing NRA information being distributed in polling places.
ATLER
October 31st, 2010
12:50 pm
I always see you non-Atlanta residents always talking trash about the metro area, and continue to elect country boys that do nothing for this state as a whole. Sonny (worthless) Purdue did nothing for 8 years in Ga and now you people are trying to elect Deal (broke) as our new governor???? He needs it bad to help him get back on his feet with bad investment deals!!!!!!!!!! All you Atlanta haters need to realize that Ga needs Atlanta. Atlanta is the bloodline of Ga. With out Atlanta Ga is just another Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky, South Carolina etc………… Just another poor southern state. So show us some thanks up hear!!!!!!!!!!
Sharia Lawyer
October 31st, 2010
12:52 pm
Last Man Standing:
It is not up to the DOJ to prohibit ACORN garb from polling places. That is the job of the local election officials.
ATLER
October 31st, 2010
12:56 pm
@ ( the mehlman rings twice)
Chain of events after the election:
1. Deal sworn in as governor.
2. Supporter agrees to “purchase” Deal’s home above the asking price and claim that it was a steal.
3. Deal uses the “profit” to pay off part of his loan by the Feb. 1, 2011 due date.
4. If Deal is kicked out of office he will “repurchase” home at discount amount.
5. If Deal serves out his term, he will by then be a wealthy man.
6. Either way, problem solved.
I TOTALLY AGREE 100% Deal needs this win to get back on his feet and some Georgians can’t see this or just too stupid to realize their getting hosed!!!!!!!!
Ralph
October 31st, 2010
1:02 pm
B. Thenet – No complaining for me about life being unfair; you are thinking of Democrats who post how stupid the majority of the Georgia electorate is. I stand with the majority, and am glad I live here.
Sorry to tell you that I am not part of the right wing religious fringe. I don’t think we should have a Christian (or any other religious) theocracy. Christmas is fine as a holiday. Government sanctioned prayer, and religious displays on government property are out of bounds for me.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
1:03 pm
Sharia Lawyer:
“It is not up to the DOJ to prohibit ACORN garb from polling places. That is the job of the local election officials.”
And on what planet do you reside? Yes, the local officials could ban the “AQCORN” nuts, but the DOJ, headed up by Obama’a AG Eric Holder, would move swiftly to shut the local control down. Ask Arizona how the DOJ is working out for them?
Get a ckue, and a life!
rufus
October 31st, 2010
1:05 pm
I’ve known Roy Barnes for about 25 years and in that time have found him to be an affable and honest individual. Regardless of how you feel about government(big or small) there are issues in our lives that only government can address: traffic and transportation, drinking water, state wide education, etc. Mr. Barnes has shown the capacity in his prevsious term as governor to tackle these issues in an innovative, coordinated and reasonably effective manner. Was he perfect? Absolutely not, but in this era we settle for “moderately effective” and we should feel fortunate when we find that standard in a politician.
Mr. Barnes is predictable as a known quantity. When we set logic aside and vote by party based on their respective performance decades ago, we all lose.
Time to close your eyes and vote for Mr. Barnes…you simply have no other choice.
Jeff Gannon
October 31st, 2010
1:06 pm
If Deal wins I’m going to ask him how he expects to work with the Democrats who seem to have lost touch with reality.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
1:07 pm
Now, all you democrats/liberals/progressives, let’s practice! Can you say “Goodbye, Roybama, hello Governor Deal”? You bet you can! It’s a lovely day in the neighborhood!
Bama Bob
October 31st, 2010
1:10 pm
GM
Why is it that Republicans are considered by some to be a “bunch of racist hicks and UnAmerican”?
I would think that, ftrom the tone of your posting, you a also what you call us, maybe even worse.
lex
October 31st, 2010
1:11 pm
Deal can always go to Perdue’s banker and get a $21 million loan, with minimal collateral.
To the victor belong the spoils. And too bad for the rest of us. I hope the FBI will lurking around keeping tabs on some of our pols better than they have in the past.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
1:12 pm
rufus:
“Time to close your eyes and vote for Mr. Barnes…you simply have no other choice.”
One would have to close their eyes and suffer memory lapse to vote for Roybama. I’m afraid you have been badly misled when you say, “you simply have no other choice”. When I voted, I saw a choice, made it and it was NOT a vote for Barnes!
Sharia lawyer
October 31st, 2010
1:13 pm
LMS
And your example of the DOJ shutting down a local polling place is where?
catlady
October 31st, 2010
1:13 pm
I predict now that hundreds will show up Tuesday in partisan (of some sort) clothing just to test the poll workers. I also predict most of them will be TPs, RTLs, and NRA types.
Will the Repubs keep pushing it until we all have to wear white shirts and black pants? You know how they feel about their rights (see the erosion of rights under Bush in the garb of “antiterrorism.”)(I have a right to wear my gun anywhere I want. You don’t have the right to a legal abortion, or to sleep with whomever you please!)
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
1:20 pm
Bama Bob:
Pay no attention to gm. He is a racist, bigot who appears here to vent his hatred. It must be like therapy for him.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
1:23 pm
Sharia lawyer:
If you didn’t understand the significance of my statement, I’m sorry. I haven’t the time to go back and forth. I suspect that you understood and are only wanting the argument.
John
October 31st, 2010
1:24 pm
Kemp and Johnny were 2 GOP I voted for, this is the reason why, smart move Kemp.
John
October 31st, 2010
1:36 pm
“A poll published Sunday by the AJC and the Georgia Newspapers Partnership shows Monds drawing a crucial 6 percent of the vote.The survey shows Deal at 47 percent and Democrat Roy Barnes at 40 percent.”
The margin of error for this poll is 4 points, the actual poll result is Barnes 44, Deal 43. BTW, Sam Olens is on TV right now, he sounds like a South Carolina queen, Hodges sounds like a real Georgian.
John
October 31st, 2010
1:37 pm
I meant SC queen as in Lindsey Graham.
gm
October 31st, 2010
1:41 pm
Last Man Standing: I know you can not explain voting against other people rights to vote”
Bamba Bob: with all due respect anytime you support someone that votes against the voting rights act, and saying you are gong to take back your country from the other millions American who voted for this President is a Un American statements.
Are you going to take it back and give it to the Indians?
The mehlman rings twice
October 31st, 2010
1:48 pm
What’s interesting about this election cycle is how the Tea Party did not field a candidate to oppose Johnny Isakbush who voted for the prescription drug benefit bill (added $1 trill to deficit). Oh well, I guess they are saving their ammo for Sen. Taxme Shameless (R-Lax Border).
dagnabit
October 31st, 2010
1:48 pm
LMS. I hope “Crooked” Deal does get elected. I get to make fun of Georgia voters after he steals his way into prison. What’s that you say? Deal’s to smart to lose his home in foreclosure proceedings.
John
October 31st, 2010
2:06 pm
Don’t forget TARP. The Tea Party stayed out because they realize Georgia had Sam Nunn and Max Cleland here not too long ago. Also, 1 Dummint is enough.
Elizabeth212
October 31st, 2010
2:09 pm
I voted early, and I did not vote a straight party ticket. I try to research the candidates and decide who is most honest, ethical, and intelligent – without those qualities, the citizens lose no matter the party of the candidate!
I voted for Roy Barnes and Carol Porter. Far too many ethical clouds around Deal and Cagle, and Deal needs to get his finances in order ON HIS OWN, not with the “influence” of the governor’s office.
gm
October 31st, 2010
2:25 pm
Last Man Standing: Last Man I love how you and your nathan deal bigots are looking past the African America vote and latino votes, early voting polling shows that it has increase like 2008, I can not wait to see that crook who hates women, blacks and anyone that does not look like him.
I wonder if you would have backed him if he had voted against the voters rights act against white people?
Ths is why there is two Amercians””’
Dave
October 31st, 2010
2:38 pm
@elizabeth212 …
I did the same thing for exactly the same reason …
Larry Craig
October 31st, 2010
2:50 pm
Dear Ralph and last man standing, I agree with everything you say. We republicans need to stick close together. I will always offer to “reach around” to lend a helping hand to my fellow republicans. It was a tragedy when Glenn Richardson left, I certainly hope Cagel and Deal can
carry on his torch of propriety and good Christian living. Tap Tap Tap
The mehlman rings twice
October 31st, 2010
2:53 pm
Easy test:
1. When you were elected to office did you make political mistakes? Or -
2. When you were elected to office did you come home under threat of indictment?
DannyX
October 31st, 2010
3:01 pm
Talk about uncomfortable.
I was at a Nathan Deal rally/Halloween party last night I would say easily 80% of the men at the party were dressed as Sarah Palin. I was amazed at how truly great just about each of these impersonators were. When you talked to them one-on-one you could see how natural their movements became. This was a room full of male Republican state legislators I had to keep reminding myself.
Almost all of them did the lame “I can see socialist DeKalb County from my county” routine.
Tina Fey would be proud.
Jeremy
October 31st, 2010
3:05 pm
Saw this article in the AJC. I wonder if AJC t-shirts and logo’s are banned since the paper consistently endorses democratic parties. Does that make them a partisan organization?
Buddy
October 31st, 2010
3:10 pm
Deal has convinced me that Barnes is no good, Barnes has convinced me that Deal is no good. Monds is getting my vote!
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
3:12 pm
I have read many of the posts on this thread and I have come up with a few observations. I have noticed that the posts in favor of Barnes are filled with fragmented sentences and spelling errors. Makes total sense because you have to be an idiot to vote for RoyBama.
Another observation I have seen is there is a lot of crying and whining over the Black and Latino vote not being cared for. Question, why do Caucasians, Native Americans, American Samoans, and Asians have to alter the way they vote because Blacks and Latinos say so, yet Blacks and Latinos don’t alter the way they vote to coincide with Caucasian, Native Americans, American Samoans and Asian voters? I am including all of these races because apparently the only vote that should matter is the Black and Latino vote.
Expanding on that point, I want to make sure I get this straight. As Americans, we should care more what someone that identifies themselves with another country thinks and believes? When I see African American, I think they put Africa ahead of America. When I see Latin American, I see someone that puts Latin countries ahead of America. Gotta tell you this, I put America ahead of every other country, nation, and province.
I will be voting in the next election. I believe we need a complete overhaul of the mess we have in Washington. We have elected people not because they are more qualified, but because voting for them made us feel better about ourselves. If you voted this way, I hope you feel really good about yourself. Your feelings have been incredibly expensive.
The pending election is a wonderful way for us to right the wrongs committed in the last election. We will be taking our country back from the lazy, incompetent trash that has it now. Rewarding people for being lazy by awarding welfare and food stamps. You go on welfare for a month or two, you have hit rough times. You are on welfare for years and years, you are a miserable piece of trash that has sponged off the tax payers for way too long. You are the worst of the worst this country has to offer. Your supporters must go. Starting with RoyBama.
middler and so tired of all the rhetoric :
October 31st, 2010
3:16 pm
it just doesn’t matter. for some reason, not their achievements while in control or the wonderful for the US actions of their last president, many of my fellow citizens are hellbent on voting GOP again and again again…no matter how much of a dishonest candidate they front or the fact that Nathan Deal will be inaugurated needing millions to avoid his bankruptcy and maintain his standard of living. We know it! and We know where the funds are going to come from. But it just doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter that the GOP says they want small government that leaves us alone but then taxes us to death, decides if we women can have control over our own bodies, how we can die. It doesn’t matter that no GOP administration in my lifetime (61 years) has done anything for the majority of us. Our wealthy, connected citizens yes but now most of us. But you are going to vote for Deal. You hate Barnes over a flag or because he didn’t cater to a special interest group of teachers or businessmen? You hate Obama because he wanted to do something to really fix the economy and help the poorer or more disadvantaged among us? And because he’s “black”, of course even though is biracial. Perdue and Richardson and the whole Republican state house have helped the State how? Have done what for us? And you want to continue this situation? We really are a state of ignorant hicks who can’t see beyond color or lying ads and would recognize or accept the truth if it really was a snake that jumped up and bit us. Shame on us!
Alabama Communist
October 31st, 2010
3:19 pm
More Breaking News On Tea Party Ban!………
Ronald McDonald a Tea Party Candiate was banned from his polling precint in the early voting process when he show up wearing a Clown Suit promoting McDonald’s latest hot product [ Hot Tea mixed with Coke],,,,,,,,A Drug Task Force Spokensperson said they arrested McDonald while he was staggering out of the Precint shouting power to the people and President Obama was a communist tool of Burger King……….
middler and so tired of all the rhetoric :
October 31st, 2010
3:22 pm
Joey M are you really the moronic dummy you appear? You are voting for Deal and keeping things in GA the way they have been, so unsuccessfully, for several years? But you want a “complete overhaul.” And just how are your proposing that this will happen? You are hung up on a couple of specific minority voting groups why? Certainly not racism, huh? There should be an intelligence test, with a knowledge of the truth, we all have to pass before voting. It would be interesting to see how long it would take you to be able to vote.
John
October 31st, 2010
3:27 pm
I wasn’t aware RoyBama was on the ballot, I bet Joey M might vote for Roy Barnes in search of this mythical RoyBama.
findog
October 31st, 2010
3:37 pm
Enter your comments here
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
3:57 pm
middler and so tired of all the rhetoric :
I kept reading how the black and latino vote is ignored in this thread. I see articles in this paper saying the same thing. All I did was merely bring light to all the races that are ignored when only black and latino votes are considered. It’s funny, I comment on how other races don’t seem to have a voice in elections and I am a racist. I bet if I said ignore the Asian, Caucasian, Native American, Middle Eastern vote and vote for the black and latino choice you would be pounding your chest telling me how right I am. All this means is you are a hypocrite. My overhaul does not end with Georgia. It goes all the way to the White House. You push for an intelligence test before voting, I am all for that. I would like to take that a step further. If you are on the Taxpayers dime, you do not get a vote either. Conflict of interest. Now what should this test consist of? American History involving political party affiliations, past votes based on political parties, background on the Federalist party, Whigs and Tories, Democratic-Republicans, etc? Should we include in your test how current elected officials have voted on all topics? How many votes the were not present for. How many times they voted against the wishes of their constituents.
I wish we had to pass a test before voting. I really do. Put the test in English only. The vote is for American politics. English is the official language. It can be written, spoken, or in braille. If you are too ignorant to read, sorry you lose. No vote. Liberals would never hold another seat if your test idea was pushed through.
John, you can bet your unemployment check that I will never vote for RoyBama. Oh, sorry. You are obviously not intelligent to get the sarcasm there. RoyBama is a play on words. It combines Roy and Obama together to signify his voting record. You see, Obama is the current President. I know, Roy is a first name and Obama is a last name, but that makes it even better. Most people have a first name and a last name. Roy’s last name is represented as Obama. RoyBama. If it makes it easier for you to comprehend, Let’s do it like this. Roy Barnes – Obama. Do you see how I did that? Does that make it easier for you? If you are still having problems with this, let me know. I can try to dumb it down further for you. Maybe I will ask a 5 year old to type the response. That could help.
John
October 31st, 2010
4:11 pm
I didn’t understand any of that. Obviously you are long winded. Just because you think a lot doesn’t mean what you think is consequential.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
4:17 pm
Alright John, I will find that 5 year old to help you understand.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
4:36 pm
John: 5 year old response. “They think the same, so they are the same person.” Please don’t tell me I need to get a 3 year old. They can’t speak very well.
John
October 31st, 2010
4:44 pm
^ You just proved that you’re dumb as a rock. Once you stop hiding behind a shield of words, you just don’t make any damn sense. It’s sad, you ramble like Obama, with the intellectual capacity of Bush.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
4:47 pm
Joey M:
I agree with what you have to say. Blacks aren’t content to be American and have to be African-American, even though very few of them have ever seen Africa. The same holds true with all the other hyphenated Americans.
I think voters should be tested for literacy. Before gm goes into a seizure, I’ll explain that I don’t mean anything that requires interpretation. I saw film of voters after the last presidential election where the reporter asked very simple questions, such as “Do you know who Joe Biden is”, “Do you know who Nancy Pelosi is”, “Do you know who Sarah Palin is”, “Do you know who John McCain is”? Although most of the people stated that they had voted for Obama, they could not answer these type questions or gave totally ludicrous answers. If people can’t demonstrate some degree of knowledge about candidates or the government and how it functions, they should not be allowed to vote.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
4:49 pm
findog:
Gators looked good.
TP4U
October 31st, 2010
4:51 pm
FYI – @Joey M – Georgia law only allows welfare folks four years–not years and years as you stated. Also, there are more white people on welfare than Blacks and Latinos. Just thought I would enlighten you on some facts. Hope this helps you in your next post.
Brittiny
October 31st, 2010
4:54 pm
In Georgia and in many other staes this election season has been nationalized. That is, each race is seen for how it will impact our national policies. This occured because of the extreme partisanship of the democrats and their arrogance in forcing thier policy agenda on us whether the people liked it or not.
The democrats might have responded by defending the “accomplisments” of their huge majority in Congress. Instead, they have launced personal attacks on thier political opponents, trying to drag the race into the gutter and out of the national spotlight. Given the democrat track record, it seemed like their best shot.
In Georiga and in other states too, the people have not been fooled. This election season has been nationalized and democrats must defend the track record of their party. It’s not pretty.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
4:58 pm
Brittiny:
Well said and true . . .
I’ve been saying that here for a long time now. Some folks still don’t understand it, or refuse to recognize it.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
5:01 pm
TP4U: I don’t want them voting either. I did not specify any race when I said if you are on the taxpayer’s dime you should not be allowed to vote. You are the one that turned it into a race based statement. There are lots of ways to circumvent the welfare laws. There are ways to circumvent many laws. Just ask ACORN employees. Racism is alive and well because of people like you. Sounds like you are bigoted against Caucasians. Sounds like you are the racist. Racists are disgusting people. By the same note, that makes you a disgusting person. Go be a racist somewhere else.
Last Man Standing: I saw the same interviews. People were asked very basic questions and they responded like they spoke a different language. “What do you think of Joe Biden as Vice President”. Than they got the response “Obama is going to be President. Not that Joe guy. I votin’ for Obama. I been here all day waitin’ to vote for Obama”. Same holds true today. You ask someone what Obama has done as President that has benefited America, they will start their answer with “Well, Bush …….” Democrats are poisoning this country by voting for unqualified individuals.
catlady
October 31st, 2010
5:41 pm
Joey and last man: We used to have a literacy test for registering to vote. We also used to have a poll tax.I remember the poll tax. Wanna go back to that, too?
Good God! (said reverently, but with despair)
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
5:41 pm
Brittiny: You are so right.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
5:48 pm
catlady:
No poll tax and no discrimination – except against the uninformed. The test must be in English, however, since that is the national language. The test can be written, oral or in braille, for those who can’t hear, see or speak.
Do you think that people should be allowed to vote when they don’t even know who the candidates are?
gm
October 31st, 2010
5:51 pm
Joey M. I guess the 2 year Gov Sara Palin is a good qualified Individual? You Nathan Deals bigots, would not vote for Deal if he had voted against the voting rights bill if it was against whites”’
You people are the sickness in America that the rest of the world sees, our men and woman who are all colors are serving this country and you support someone that voted against leting them vote.
You white conservatives are the reason, white Americans lives are always in danger out the country. People see your racial tone, Deal reminds you of the good old days of the South, when you could control everything with your skin, this is why the younger generations of whites voted for Obama, they have seen the bigory of their parents, Nathan Deal represent you older white voters last hope to keep dixie alive”””
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
5:51 pm
catlady: If we can remove all social programs dedicated to food stamps, welfare, etc. than I would be for a Poll Tax. If the trade off is making voters prove their level of competence before voting, bring it on. I wish we had an open spreadsheet showing how Federal and State taxes are spent. I get so mad when I see someone paying with an EBT card for groceries, than they get into a brand new car and drive away. I would also like to see how much money we give to foreign countries. If I were to run for President, my slogan would be “NO MORE HANDOUTS”! We give Billions of Dollars to foreign countries every year. How much money have we given to the African countries in the last 20 years? Yet their leaders live lavish lifestyles while the citizens are starving and dying from preventable diseases. By funding their corruption, our leaders themselves are corrupt. You make a stand or you fall in line. I wish we had a President that brought us back to what worked when starting this country. I guess I am wishing we had Ronald Regan Part 2 as our President.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
5:58 pm
gm: When you ramble about Nathan Deal not letting black people vote, are you talking about his voting in favor of requiring someone to have a state issued picture ID before they can vote? This prevents fraud. This prevents dead people and infants from voting. This prevents fake people from voting. If you want to compare voting records, we can do that. Deal vs. Barnes…. Know what, good Idea. I will follow this with Deal’s and Barnes’ voting records.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
6:01 pm
Nathan Deal:
Voted YES on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations.
Voted NO on granting Washington DC an Electoral vote & vote in Congress.
Voted NO on protecting whistleblowers from employer recrimination.
Voted YES on requiring photo ID for voting in federal elections.
Voted YES on restricting independent grassroots political committees.
Voted YES on prohibiting lawsuits about obesity against food providers.
Voted YES on limiting attorney’s fees in class action lawsuits.
Voted YES on restricting frivolous lawsuits.
Voted NO on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions.
Voted YES on banning soft money donations to national political parties.
Voted YES on banning soft money and issue ads.
Restrict campaign donations from foreigners or 3rd parties.
Require all laws to cite Constitutional authorization.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
6:04 pm
Now, you say Nathan Deal is bigoted??? Here is his voting record on Civil Rights.:
* Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination based on sexual orientation. (Nov 2007)
* Voted YES on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman. (Jul 2006)
* Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
* Voted YES on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)
* Voted YES on protecting the Pledge of Allegiance. (Sep 2004)
* Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003)
* Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
* Voted YES on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998)
* Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001)
* Issue a commemorative postage stamp of Rosa Parks. (Dec 2005)
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
6:10 pm
This is strange. I cannot find anything Roy Barnes voted for or against anywhere. It is like he never spent a day at work. You look if you don’t believe me. Nathan Deal is everywhere. Apparently Deal went to work while Barnes spent all his time fighting with constituents. He followed a very good governor in Zell Miller. He was a great man. I would vote for him if he wanted his old job back. Barnes is like a ghost.
John
October 31st, 2010
6:15 pm
Property taxes lower with Barnes, higher with Perdue. Sales tax holiday created with Barnes, dissolved with Perdue.
Stupidity of Joey M? Unlimited.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
6:28 pm
catlady:
Do you think that people should be allowed to vote when they don’t even know who the candidates are?
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
6:34 pm
gm:
Perhaps you would like to enlighten us as to what the Voting Rights Act did for you? Then you could tell us exactly how you would be affected if it wasn’t extended? Since this is an issue you obviously are passionate about, you should have little difficulty with answering those two very simple questions.
John
October 31st, 2010
6:36 pm
I think that is a great requirement, Georgians must recognize that Nathan Deal is a Washington welfare queen, failed in his attempt at being a successful lawyer, failed in his attempts at business, failed in his attempt at becoming a Congressman, and most recently, failing to garner a majority of the vote in a Republican state in a Republican year. Georgia does not deserve this failure.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
6:40 pm
John: What were the property tax rates under Barnes and Purdue? The sales tax holiday was not enacted because three bills (HB 951, 952, and 953) were proposed, but none of them were passed during the legislative session.I guess Sonny Purdue should have broken the law and forced those bills through according to you. Liberals are big into forcing their will, even when the majority doesn’t agree with them.
John
October 31st, 2010
6:41 pm
Aww, look at you hiding behind a barrage of words again, trying to defend how Sonny boy has helped protect Georgia from the evils of liberalism.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
6:49 pm
John:
“most recently, failing to garner a majority of the vote in a Republican state in a Republican year”
I wouldn’t be counting those chickens yet becuase they ain’t hatched. I’m sure you’ll be around Wedbesday AM so you can have your “nose rubbed in it”?
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
6:52 pm
Another thing, I like how you make it sound like Roy Barnes created the Sales Tax Holiday. He did nothing of the sort. It was started in New York in 1997.
John
October 31st, 2010
6:57 pm
Joey M, you are killing me, please stop! Last man, I think the numbers come “Wedbesday” will shock you.
D. E. Kalb
October 31st, 2010
7:10 pm
Perhaps the Secretary would be more confortable with Black Panther paraphernalia.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
7:11 pm
John, I asked you a very clear question. You stated property taxes are higher under Purdue than Barnes. I asked you what the tax rates were so we can compare tax rates. Are you going to be a typical liberal that makes statements without the intelligence to prove it? Anyone can make random statements. Try this. Georgia now has the 5th best curriculum in the Nation under Purdue. Now watch this. As a Republican, I will now prove my answer.
http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/pea_communications.aspx?ViewMode=1&obj=1241
See how I did that? don’t expect a liberal to open the website. A liberal will know the Republican has proven himself and his statements to be factual. Now you can go ahead and make up some more stuff to try to help your boy Roy. But honestly dude, it’s too little too late.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
7:16 pm
John, as long as you try to debate with someone that is obviously your intellectual superior, you will always feel like you are being killed. You vote your guy, I’ll vote my guy. When the liberal democrats are held responsible for all the havoc they have brought upon the people, I am sure I will never hear from you again. Thank you for making me feel smarter.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
7:17 pm
John:
PLEASE, forgive me my typos, as I forgive your penchant for Barnes. No, I won’t be surprised . . . but if you think Barnes will win, you will be!
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
7:21 pm
gm:
I’m waiting . . .
John
October 31st, 2010
7:24 pm
Spelling matters. Grammar does too. You meant, “PLEaSE, forgive me [for] my typos”. Every little bit counts on the SAT☺
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
7:35 pm
John. Stop chasing rabbits regarding grammar and spelling. I asked you simply to prove your statement regarding property taxes. I feel like I am dealing with a child. You couldn’t understand the “RoyBama” play on words. You can’t understand proving what you say. Yet you want to bring light to a spelling error. You proved your ignorance in your post complaining about “PLEaSE, forgive me [for] my typos.” Not sure why you made the “a” lowercase in “please”, but whatever. Following that, “please forgive me my typos” is not a fragmented sentence. It works both ways, with and without the “for”. Now would you like to argue spelling in a political debate, or would you like to argue politics in a political debate? I can do either.
John
October 31st, 2010
7:41 pm
Joey M, I think you are a little slow. I thought the first time that I embarrassed you at first was enough.
First you go on rambling about the evils of RoyBama, then you sit and stare as I go on about how Roy cut taxes, and Sonny and team raised them. You’re obviously very slow if you think you’re the only 1 in on the RoyBama pun.
John
October 31st, 2010
7:42 pm
If you had to take the ASVAB, you’d probably score high enough to be a janitor (I got a 99).
td
October 31st, 2010
7:43 pm
Looks like I have been missing all of the fun today. BTW: I am watching Deal wipe the floor with Barnes in the debate.
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
7:43 pm
John:
That was merely a play on words from the Lord’s Prayer, but then I should have known better.
You are a piece of work, probably educated far beyond your intelligence – even if you only got through the 7th grade. You will doubtless be a fine and worthy democrat, able to understand and take direction.
td
October 31st, 2010
7:45 pm
John
October 31st, 2010
7:42 pm
Looks like you are starting again with the liberal mantra. When you can not win on the issues or the philosophy then you go after someone personally. Why do you just not admit that your philosophy is morally bankrupt and be done with it?
Boooo
October 31st, 2010
7:46 pm
Shut up and vote! That is all that counts. You will not change my mind and I will not try to change yours. The money spent on these campaigns could have helped thousands of U.S. citizens who are homeless and hungry.
John
October 31st, 2010
7:46 pm
Your pun was not clever, you added an extra syllable that broke the rhythm of the beat. This is about the third time I’ve called you out on your “jokes”, you are not a funny man! I can only imagine the horror of your real live routine.
John
October 31st, 2010
7:47 pm
td, what else am I supposed to do when someone tells me Georgia’s sales tax holiday was started in New York? Coddle them?
td
October 31st, 2010
7:48 pm
Boooo
October 31st, 2010
7:46 pm
Shut up and vote! That is all that counts. You will not change my mind and I will not try to change yours. The money spent on these campaigns could have helped thousands of U.S. citizens who are homeless and hungry.
Where do you think all this money goes too? How many people do these these ads and campaigns employ? Does this not also keep people from being homeless?
John
October 31st, 2010
7:50 pm
The local Georgia media is thankful for the $5.4 million that the RGA is blowing on this race.
khc
October 31st, 2010
7:56 pm
td what world do you live in…..thought deal was going to shot the panelist for asking a question most folks wanted asked….and his answer was bs
Last Man Standing
October 31st, 2010
7:59 pm
td:
Caught the last half of the debate. Deal was clearly the best of the three. Have a good night. I sure am looking forward to Tuesday night/Wednesday morning!
khc
October 31st, 2010
8:02 pm
joey m if you dont understand that sonny increased real estate taxes because he eliminated the homeowners relief grant….about $450m…..then you were not paying attention…..
Bobby Kahn
October 31st, 2010
8:43 pm
The King and I are somewhat at a loss. We have had to resort to the “Deal wants to rape you all over again” ad campaign just to insure a runoff.
The labor unions are out of ideas. What should we do for the runoff?
I would offer up some more ideas, but I am too busy picking out my carpet and drapes for my corner office at the Capital.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
8:54 pm
khc: I was under the impression HB 1055 passed. Gradually over the next five years, Georgia property owners will see the state’s portion of their county property tax bills eliminated. Sounds like a tax cut to me. As far as finding blame on tax increases, look to local cities. Property values are decreasing, yet millage rates are increasing. It couldn’t have anything to do with Georgia having the10th largest population of welfare recipients, could it? It also couldn’t be because 21% of Georgia’s children are below the poverty line could it? These children are going to school. That school is paid for through property taxes. If you remove the trash from Georgia that doesn’t work, doesn’t contribute, that feeds off of Georgia’s workers, than property taxes will go back down.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
8:58 pm
John, the sales tax holiday idea was first implemented in New York. Georgia implemented the same idea 5 years later. A statewide sales tax holiday was first enacted by the New York Legislature in 1996 and enabled the first tax-free week in January of 1997. Local governments in New York were given the option of whether or not to participate. Still want to try to convince me that Barnes and all his infinite wisdom came up with this idea?
John
October 31st, 2010
9:06 pm
Like I said, Roy Barnes started the sales tax holiday in Georgia, Sonny and friends killed it. Are you that dense?
It’s really sad how you spin the elimination of a grant as a tax cut when it is the opposite of reality.
John
October 31st, 2010
9:09 pm
I do have to give it up to Sonny, all of the education cuts, raised taxes and fees have built us some nice fish ponds.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
9:13 pm
Sonny did not kill the Tax Day. The sales tax holiday was not enacted because three bills (HB 951, 952, and 953) were proposed, but none of them were passed during the legislative session. The Democrat’s did not vote for those Bills so they never made their way to Sonny’s desk. This is like you owe somebody money, than you criticize them for not buying presents for their kids because they need the money you owe them. Sonny could not keep the tax holiday going because those Bills were never voted on, hence they never passed. You can scream and moan all day that Sonny Purdue should have passed the bills anyway, but that would be impossible.
I bet you believe that Guam was one soldier away from capsizing don’t you?
khc
October 31st, 2010
9:15 pm
joey m my taxes have gone up with the elimination of barnes’ homeowners tax relief program by perdue about 200 dollars while hb 1055 will cut state re taxes about 30……..you need to go back and take a math class……barnes gave me 200, sonny took it away but will give me 30 maybe……even a repub could follow that
the rest of your answer was not to the point that sonny raised my real estate tax which you asked for proof then you get on some diatribe……your a dumb arse
John
October 31st, 2010
9:27 pm
Yeah it’s really sad that Sonny can push fish ponds but he can’t push tax relief.
Cutty
October 31st, 2010
9:41 pm
Yeah Joey M, like the republican-led General Assembly actually needed any votes from democrats to pass anything these last 8 years. If they wanted to pass anything, it would. Perdue got the legislature to pass him a retroactive tax break, if he could do that you’d think he’d be able to give you and I a tax break for a weekend at least. Let’s be real man.
John
October 31st, 2010
10:10 pm
Matt Towery’s Southern Political Report has dropped a ghastly treat for us all.
“SPR agrees that the 8th Leans Republican, but believes the 2nd Leans Democratic.”
Final days: Barnes needs a small miracle: It may be that for all he talk of a runoff, Barnes will not find the miracle he needs. On the other hand, I remember the eve of the 2002 governor’s race. A little-known Republican by the name of Perdue needed a miracle as well. He got it, and stunned Georgia’s political establishment.
Joey M
October 31st, 2010
10:18 pm
I guess Sonny Purdue is now the tax man for each county too. Can’t wait for Tuesday.
Cutty
October 31st, 2010
10:25 pm
He ain’t the tax man, but thanks to the legislature he got a better ‘deal’ than you or I would.
Sad
October 31st, 2010
10:27 pm
Gosh what is to become of our great state??!? Today’s mason Dixon poll says that only 20% of us think that character / integrity matters. Many say our choices in the Gov’s race are the lessors of evils. But isn’t the lesser of evils still evil? We will get what we get on Tuesday. But going forward we should we must demand of those who will represent us. Georgia, step up!!!
Sad
October 31st, 2010
10:29 pm
That’s demand “more” of those who represent us
redneck woman
October 31st, 2010
11:50 pm
***###
rooster
October 31st, 2010
11:54 pm
Call your I.T. person, Jim. The idiot filter is down again.
Jason
October 31st, 2010
11:54 pm
ACORN! ACORN! ACORN!!!
Oh no, not ACORN!
Guess what uninformed partisan lackies, ACORN doesn’t exist! It disbanded in March. There is no ACORN! What does that say about you that you think it still does and even fear it?
1) If you honestly believed ACORN still existed, then it means you’re not very well informed on things you have very strong opinions about. Do the rest of the nation a favor and stop voting until you can get even the most basic facts correct.
2) If you actually knew that ACORN went away but you are trying to use them to win cheap political points, remember that one of the Ten Commandments forbids bearing falses witness. You’re not endangering your ever lasting soul just to win a few points for your favorite political team, are you? Perhaps some time in prayer with the big guy upstairs would do you some good.
And while you’re at it, pick a sports team to mindless follow. The nation has been damaged enough by blind partisans who get their egos so wrapped up in their team winning that they can’t see the damage they’re doing. If one sports team isn’t enough, find more sports and teams to follow until you get all of that blind loyality out of your system. Politics is NOT a team sport! Stop treating it like it is!
Ralph
November 1st, 2010
12:27 am
These posts turned into name calling. I merely want to expose the liberal bias of the AJC, and point out the information they exclude. Here is some:
Deal is holding a 10 point lead over Barnes in almost all of the polls. That is considered a “landslide”, but the AJC won’t ever use that term for a Republican.
Deal has gained significant endorsements throughout the state, including from The Augusta Chronicle, The Columbus Ledger-Enquirer, The Savannah Morning News, The Gainesville Times, The Chattanooga Times-Free Press and The Thomasville Times-Enterprise.
The Athens Banner-Herald reports: “If recent polls are correct, Deal probably will win outright, University of Georgia political science professor Charles Bullock said. Barnes has virtually no chance to win and little chance to force a runoff, he said.
captguitarman
November 1st, 2010
1:17 am
Handel Republicans: We DO have the power to make this a run offf, or worse, for the Shady Deal. It’s no surprise that ultra-conservative and Tea Party Republicans are saying that they know their guy is a crook, but they will vote for him anyway because of like mindedness on social issues. But, you would have to be deaf, dumb, blind, and stupid not to see what is happening here. Keep in mind that Deal and his cohorts would not have supported Handel if she had won the primary, no way no how — and they said so. We owe them nothing. We must think only of Georgia now, not party loyalty. Can we afford another 4 or 8 years of “What, Me Worry?” Sonny Perdue’s non-leadership — while the new Gov is busy doing bidness and stuffing his pockets?? Can we afford another Richardson-type state house? Georgia has stagnated, and we cannot afford another 4 or 8 more years of this stagnation. Our gal represented change and progress, and she lost. But, who feared her the most? The entrenched Gold Dome Richardson type Republicans, the lobbyists who don’t want to see their bidness threatened, and Nathan Shady Deal Republicans. They will not sign the proposed Tea Party pledge stating that neither they, nor their family members will hire relatives or friends for state jobs. They do not want to limit themselves, relatives, employees, etc. from state jobs and lobbying positions after they leave office. They do not want travel and hotel stays and meals and gifts and other perks supplied by lobbyists reported to the public. They will never sign such a pledge . . . never. Wake up!!! Handel Republicans, the Tea Party is too conservative and they will support a crook just based on his social values and saying the right things about his faith, etc. despite his previous actions. It is up to us. Ask yourself. Which is better? To send a governor in huge financial trouble, who desperately needs to do bidness and who needs to win to even have a house to live in — into that go along, get along nest of lobbyists and Deal supporters under the Gold Dome? Or is it better to have a Democrat governor? The answer is easy. Better to have King Roy, as difficult as that is to consider, in there throwing sand into the wheels and gears of bidness for the next 4 years than a financially strapped Governor in there oiling them up every chance he gets — looking out for every interest except the State of Georgia’s. We can make a difference. Don’t vote Deal or Barnes . . . VOTE GEORGIA on Tuesday.
BehindEnemyLines
November 1st, 2010
5:05 am
re: “Handel Republicans” … you mean the RINO’s who still haven’t gotten over their heroine’s abominable social policies being revealed? She’s not fit to be dogcatcher & relegating her to the rubbish bin is one of the better moves this state has made, I’m just thankful she was unmasked before the state made a horrible mistake.
Sharia Lawyer
November 1st, 2010
6:55 am
@Jason:
I agree. Not only that, Acorn was engaged in legitimate voter registration drives. People signed up using fake names and others used their names but their place of residence could not be varified. Acorn identified these names and unverified addresses to the various election boards and then told them there might be more. People still don’t get it that adding names in a voter registration drive means that all those “names” are voting.
the mehlman rings twice
November 1st, 2010
6:58 am
So in Delaware, if I stop to vote on my way to a costume party dressed up like a witch, that costume can be interpreted as an endorsement of a specific candidate?
Tech Geek
November 1st, 2010
7:01 am
Just read an article in the Atl Business Chronical. From 1963 to 2009, Massachusets was 3rd in patents issued and Georgia was 23rd. Zell Miller must be turning over in his grave over that stat.
Disgusted Republican
November 1st, 2010
9:26 am
To BehindEnemyLines. You Deal people are just ugly individuals. You won and yet you continue to trash Handel. No wonder those who supported her don’t want to vote for your guy. It was bad enough that you and the deal campaign spewed lies about her. (Yeah the runoff flyer y’all put on cars in church parking lots was lower than low.). But you can’t even let it go in victory. Says a lot about the man and it ain’t good.
TnGelding
November 1st, 2010
10:04 am
Oops, looks like I’ll have to withdraw my endorsement for Mr. Monds. Seems he does approve of government running our lives, after all. Make it legal and as safe as possible. If fools want to abuse God’s temple and kill themselves, get ‘em in the ground before sundown!.
AngryVoter
November 1st, 2010
11:28 am
Tech Geek – Ummm, not sure why this news would cause the much alive Mr. Miller to dig his own grave and start spinning within that grave. I’m also not sure what the number of patents filed from within the state says about anything, but given that Mr. Miller left the State in pretty good shape, it likely doesn’t say anything negative.
Then again, the comment comes from someone who doesn’t appear to know the difference between living and dead, so I’m not going to spend any time trying to understand what point there might be.
emack06
November 1st, 2010
12:10 pm
I voted early. I voted for Roy Barnes and Carol Porter. They seem to be the most qualified to do the job. Deal is shady and so is Cagle.
Your morning jolt: Casey Cagle, Carol Porter and a certain delicate matter | Political Insider
November 1st, 2010
12:23 pm
[...] Secretary of State Brian Kemp objected to the wording of an Insider post Sunday, stating that he had ruled that tea party enthusiasts could not wear their T-shirts, hats and buttons to the polls on Tuesday. [...]
You Asked
November 1st, 2010
12:44 pm
The state code (O.C.G.A. 21-2-414) is very clear about no display of paraphernelia within 150 feet of the polling place. At the polling place where I work we do not discriminate between parties when this is enforced. We are also very polite about asking people to remove buttons or turn t-shirts with slogans inside out for the 15 minutes when they are in the polling place.
We had one woman during early voting make a scene because she was asked by my wife to remove her button, stating very clearly that she did not disapprove of the womans message but that she was fairly enforcing the rules for all people. The Tea Party woman made a scene saying she’d “read the law” and was within her rights to wear the button. I don’t know which law she read but it wasn’t the Georgia code pertaining to elections.
Folks, please don’t make a scene. The people working those polling places are non-partisan volunteers who work very hard to provide a pleasant and fair voting environment for you.
John
November 1st, 2010
1:22 pm
^ Proof that tea partiers are tea baggers.
Tech Geek
November 1st, 2010
1:42 pm
@AngryVoter
In the interest of accuracy I went back and checked by source and saw where Massachusetts was actually the 9th highest leader in patents issued between 1963 – 2009. With that being said, during his speech at the Republican National Convention in 2004, Zell said no 2 people have been wrong more than John Kerry and Ted Kennedy. Apparently they were not wrong on the need to educate their fellow citizens. Those patents garnered more income for people in Massachusetts which, along with New York, Conneticutt, and Illinois, provided more tax income to the federal government and thus aid to states like Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina who are not even listed. The point is, Zell is politically dead.
Tech Geek
November 1st, 2010
1:43 pm
But at least they have good football teams.
AngryVoter
November 1st, 2010
2:02 pm
Tech Geek – I’m not sure why I’m even going to bother, but when you indicate “patents garnered more income…” what do you mean? More income than what??? I have more peanuts. Does that mean I have two peanuts or two million? It’s meaningless.
And what does Zell’s statement have to do with the State of Mass having state universities? These two men are Federal Govemment officials. That’s like saying Coke is right because Pepsi makes Mountain Dew. These are two different organizations, and one has nothing to do with the other.
Besides, Zell did more for education at the college level than just about any Gov of any state ever. By pushing through the Hope Scholarship, Zell created a reason for talented students in our State to stay on our State for college. Before Hope, our best students went out of state. This has made our made our state universities better academic institutions. It’s saved the best students millions of dollars. That is something Zell did directly for education at the university level. Exactly what has Kerry done, other than donate some of his wife’s first husband’s family’s money to universities in his state?
Next, when someone retires from politics, that does not make them politically dead. It makes them inactive. Zell still maintains lots of respect in this State, as he should. He is correct that Kerry and Kennedy were very wrong about many things. What we’ve experienced in the past two years backs that up. Even though most of the free-spending policies the two of them always wanted have yet to actually start, the mere fact these policies have been enacted has choked business spending and kept the economy from recovering. The present state of things pretty much proves Zell was right.
AngryVoter
November 1st, 2010
2:05 pm
And, BTW, even the State of Mass has come to the conclusion the leftist policies of Kerry and Kennedy are wrong. They elected Scott Brown, a Rep, to replace Kennedy. They are about to elect yet another Rep Gov and even Barney Frank is probably going to lose tomorrow. How right could Kennedy and Kerry be if their own constituents are rejecting their party?
Tech Geek
November 1st, 2010
7:42 pm
@Angry Voter
You don’t need to bother but the facts remain:
1. Because of the investment in education and high tech research made by states like Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut, and Illinois, companies in those states and their employees earn significantly larger incomes than most. If you own 1,000 patents (as with peanuts) you will probably earn more income that someone with one.
2. The federal government has for years transferred income from high achieving states to low achieving states. The taxes to do this come from those higher achievers and income earners.
3. John Kerry and Ted Kennedy while they were both state and federal office holders emphasized education at a level that many other states couldn’t even imagine.
4. While politicians in states like Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and South Carolina were worried about who was eating at lunch counters and insulting one-third of their constituents with state flags; and politicians like Zell Miller were fooling people with lotteries; Massachusetts’s students were designing and patenting medical devices and micro surgery procedures which they then exported around the world for profit.
Mr. KnowitAll
November 1st, 2010
8:45 pm
Notice to Brian Kemp: I will be wearing my “Don’t Tread on Me” Gadsden Flag T-shirt to vote tomorrow. Marine General Christopher Gadsden designed the flag as a motivational act and was part of the 1st Marine mission. It was based upon Benjamin Franklin’s “Join or Die” commentary on Unifying the individual colonies.
The Gadsden Flag is a part of US history and the initial mission of the Marine Corp.
It will NOT be telling others what candidates or party to vote for.
Sec. of State Brian Kemp: If you want to make an issue of my 1st amendment right to wear any damn shirt I want—Bring it on!
If you challenge me, then you will have to stop ALL partisan identifiers like the SEIU, AFL/CIO, AFSCME who are DIRECTLY partisan and contributed with time and money for the Socialist Liberal DemocRats.