The negative ads of our Founding Fathers

Libertarian blogger Jason Pye brought this history lesson to our attention:

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Keith

October 29th, 2010
5:08 pm

At least today we have the technology to make them fun and informative: Here’s someone saying why they are voting for John Monds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZhhNsCy_bg

jack freeman

October 29th, 2010
5:26 pm

can nathan deal run our state? his personal and business is a total wreck. he put 2 million of his own money into one daughter’s failed business and was left with another 2.5 million of debt. now he is selling everything he ownes just to settle half the debt. the other daughters are asking how he could be so dumb and you want this man to run the state. this is only the tip of the iceburg. wake up georgia voters and pull your head out of your…………….the sand.

Doug Craig

October 29th, 2010
5:38 pm

Kieth I am the political director of the Libertarian party of Georgia and that is funny stuff. Of course he is qualified unless being crooked is what makes you qualified. but none the less it was funny

jack freeman

October 29th, 2010
6:46 pm

they expect so many people voting on election day they decided to split it up into two days, if you want to vote for roy barnes go and vote nov 2, if you want to vote for nathan deal go and vote nov 3

Ralph

October 29th, 2010
6:56 pm

Galloway and the AJC had nothing to say about negative ads when only Barnes was doing it early on for months. Only when Deal shot back did the AJC and Galloway notice, and then started commenting.

Last Man Standing

October 29th, 2010
7:33 pm

jack freeman:

Can’t you think of something original? I’ve seen this posting several times with the exact same wording. Try re-wording it. Your benefactor ought to get his money’s worth!

The Centrist

October 29th, 2010
7:35 pm

Ralph. Cut the revisionist history. It is true Barnes has been doing negative ads, but it was well after the RGA had started spending their $5 million the day after the GOP runoff on attack ads. That allowed Deal the cover for you to now say that he only recently shot back.

The Centrist

October 29th, 2010
7:40 pm

Why do I get the feeling that Jack Freeman is playing with proven conservative tactic of lying about the date of an election. I doubt anyone can find where libs have used this tactic because their efforts have always been to get out the vote. We know the conservative benefactors have gotten their monies worth, because higher voter turnout normally means loses for conservatives.

Browncoat

October 29th, 2010
10:29 pm

The Presidential Elections in 1824 and 1828 were pretty crazy too. Nothing new under the sun.

The Hulk

October 29th, 2010
10:46 pm

FOUNDING FATHER ADS MAKE HULK ANGRY. HULK RIP PARCHMENT OF OLD ADS. HULK SMASH!

WAW

October 29th, 2010
11:25 pm

They had a lot of free booze as they sang “Tippecanoe and Tyler Too”… and Alexander Hamilton paid the ultimate price for negative comments… politics is a fun game now but wasn’t back then…

Republicans can expect pay back come installation of the new Congress (get ready folks, ya’ll have had your fun, now it will be our turn)

The Ghost of Lester Maddox

October 29th, 2010
11:40 pm

Hee hee hee. Look at how the JimBama and Almighty AJC empire is at a loss for words in the days leading up to this rejection of liberal Democrats!

If the wind was blowing the way of Pelosi/Reid/Oh-Blah-Blah, we would be treated to non-stop columns about the wonderful world of liberal democrats in the days leading up to the mid-terms.

And, on a related note, even I have to feel somewhat sorry for Oh-Blah-Blah, he has been rejected by Dems all over the country, and facing defeat, he jumps in front of the cameras and declares in all seriousness that he has big news to deliver about terrorism. Uh huh, somewhat a coincidence that all of this terroism emphasis occurs in the days leading up to what some predict is a historic rejection of his administration.

Bobby Kahn

October 29th, 2010
11:43 pm

Never mind the polls. I’ve decided upon royal blue carpet and dark maroon drapes for my corner office at the Capital. The King will approve my expenditure of taxpayer funds, of course.

TnGelding

October 30th, 2010
12:25 am

I like Roy’s arrow misses and cows ad. Were things really that bad under his reign? Our Founding Fathers had a way with words, but their actions revealed them as something less than perfect. They laid the ground work for the violent society we continue to be. What if the shot heard round the world had never been fired?

Alabama Communist

October 30th, 2010
12:31 am

Not bad! But the nasty political campaign in American history was when the anti-masonic party destroy the Masonic order in the USA in 1826 and scare the urine out of South Carolina and Andrew Jackson at the same time………One campaign flyer said ” When you vote for a Democrat-Republican Federalist, you are voting for a ” Goat Phallus Worshiper”

Ralph

October 30th, 2010
12:38 am

Misnomer name “Centrist” – there were no attack ads from Deal the day after he won the nomination. You are thinking of Barnes – the negative ads that he ran and the AJC ignored for months.

Avery

October 30th, 2010
1:59 am

All politicians are voted in by a dopey majority, but Georgia holds a special place with our hideous rankings in education. We already have politicians who don’t understand science…pretty soon we will have a few who cannot read.

Fire Eater

October 30th, 2010
4:35 am

There are rumors that someone sent out notices to voters in Clayton, Dekalb and other selected areas that claim “Your slave reparations checks HAVE ARRIVED…you must pick them up IN PERSON at the Slave Reparations office in Atlanta on TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 2010. DON’T BE LATE!”

I expect a chorus of screams from the “usual suspects.”

Mike

October 30th, 2010
6:32 am

FIRE EATER – Free Marta rides to boot. RALPH: Barnes came out of the shoot firing negative ads. That was obvious to everyone (except you of course).

Keep doing this GOP

October 30th, 2010
6:34 am

Didnt Deal run negative ads against Handel ? I believe he did.

BitterEXdemocrackkk

October 30th, 2010
6:47 am

STRIVE to be SMARTER than the ORIGINAL ‘party’ of SLAVERY *WANTS* you to BE!

*spelled with 3 Ks to characterize (and honor!) the democrats radical violent existence, past and present.

hack

October 30th, 2010
7:20 am

I was the one who pointed out that the founding mud was slung low. Is there nothing I write that isn’t worshipped and xeroxed?

It’s berry humble pie 4me. I just want you all to know.

But thanx, it’s nice to know that I’m the collective colloquial of introspectve colonials.

Bill

October 30th, 2010
7:26 am

Barnes said upfront, that he would be more aggressive than he was in 2002, when Perdue painted him as king rat. I think that voters rejected Barnes mainly over the flag.

GreatATLGuy

October 30th, 2010
8:24 am

People that don’t want Roy are in general racists and tea party lunatic fringe. How could you pick Nathan over Roy? Rednecks are mad over the flag issue and associate Roy, an old-style democrat, with Obama, whom they view as a socialist and don’t like in general because he’s black. I’m a member of the SVC for the history and heritage, but the flag change was warranted because of what that symbol represented… plus, Barnes knows state politics and what it takes to run the state. Wake up Georgia!

Ralph

October 30th, 2010
8:41 am

Mike – you confused me with the leftist guy who calls himself “The Centrist”. There is no doubt that it was Barnes who did negative advertising from day 1 after being nominated by the Democrats.

Mel

October 30th, 2010
8:45 am

Deal could drop-kick babies across the capitol lawn and still win as long as he has the R after his name. Whatever troubles he has as governor will be blamed on Obama and when Obama is gone, the argument will be, “Love it or leave it.” Slap a coat of red paint over the blue as the wood underneath continues to rot. Force them to clean up the system or stay in perpetual “Throw the bums out” mode. It’s your choice.

Last Man Standing

October 30th, 2010
8:54 am

GreatATLGuy:

As has been said many times before, this election is a referendum on democrats in general and Obama’s policies specifically. This country has seen more than enough to know that the “change” he campaigned on was a transitioning of America to a European socialist system. The electorate doesn’t like or want that “change”. Nathan Deal will be elected as governor. Anyone running for office as a democrat gives, at least, tacit approval of Obama’s actions.

One would assume that you support Barnes. Your answer to the people who do not is to call them rednecks and racists. I submit that you are the one with the problem, not the Deal (Republican) supporters.

the mehlman rings twice

October 30th, 2010
9:18 am

Negative ads work! Just ask John McCain. What Rove and company did to him in the 2000 South Carolina primary is legendary.

GreatATLGuy

October 30th, 2010
9:23 am

LMS — you are wrong about the tacit approval, this governors’ race is a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils. And the “socialist” bit is a made-up fallacy by repubs. Democrats and Socialists are not one in the same. Dems believe that ALL people should have fundamental rights protected by government which was elected by the majority. And that’s what we are trying to have today with the current administration. You can’t fix past messes in 22 months.

SmartAWhiteBoy

October 30th, 2010
9:27 am

Politics has gone to hell in hand basket. Special interest money has always been a huge problem, now it is viral. People have been conditioned to believe anything they see or hear these days. In the days of Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley, it was not a problem, they were true journalist. Between the lies and half trues on Fox, ok MSNBC too added to all of the special interest TV adds doing nothing more than lying and exaggerating to get their person elected, ti’s no wonder we are in the state we are in. Quit being sheep people, big money fat cats are making fools of you! Our country is for sale!!

Fred

October 30th, 2010
9:56 am

Hey GreatATLGuy: Stick your racism right back up your butt from whence you puled it. I’m not voting for Roy Barnes, but I WOULD have (and actually did) vote for Thurmond Baker for Governor. I also voted for a still support our current President, Barak Obama. Still ain’t voting for Barnes. The ONLY thing that Nathan Steal has correct in his ad campaigns is that once WAS enough with Barnes. (Oh, and I fully support the flag change. It was adopted in 1956 (or there abouts) in direct defiance to federally mandated integration. There is no denying it was a racist symbol.)

I’m not voting for that thief Deal either. like that stupid video Keith put up, I’m voting for Monds because he’s NOT Nathan Steal or King Roy.

The Republican and Democratic constituency had a chance to elect honorable candidates. Instead they each chose to put up a scumbag to represent both them AND their ideals. I don’t have too much respect for anyone that would vote for either of those two ass hats.

SmartAWhiteBoy

October 30th, 2010
9:58 am

Go Fred, you are the man

Matt the Brave

October 30th, 2010
10:06 am

Nice. Of course, that doesn’t even come close to the election between John Q. Adams and Andrew Jackson. Jackson was called an adulterer, a scoundrel, and a uneducated hick out of Tennessee. Adams was charged with stealing the election, cronyism, and backroom politics. Sounds sort of like today, doesn’t it?!

Matt the Brave

October 30th, 2010
10:07 am

Oh, and if you watch the Gubernatorial ads in Georgia, you’d know that Nathan Deal is a rapist (hide yo kids, hide yo wife!) and Roy Barnes is nothing more than an old white Obama.

GreatATLGuy

October 30th, 2010
10:13 am

Hey Fred, just an fyi that “pulled” is spelled with two l’s….

The Thin Guy

October 30th, 2010
10:18 am

The Jefferson-Adams race may have been uncivil and impolite but it’s not unique. The things that were said about Andrew Jackson and his wife were some of the most vile imaginable. But those were different times. General Jackson might challenge you to a duel and shoot you through your gizzard. I’m tired of hearing Nice Nathan’s lies and King Roy’s lies. So I’m voting for John Monds. Of course Monds has no chance so in the runoff I’ll be voting for Nice Nathan because at least he’s a different crook. Nice Nathan reminds me of every undertaker I have know with that engaging smile and friendly demeanor. King Roy reminds me of every car salesman I have known. Can’t you just hear him saying that this 1977 Ford Pinto with 850k miles was driven only by a little old lady to and from church at speeds less than 15 mph and is a real steal at $ 15k. Thanks, but I’m not buying anything King Roy is selling. Once was more than enough.

LeeS

October 30th, 2010
10:56 am

Georgians ….well for that matter a vast majority of the US voting populace have a memory the size of a walnut and nuts they can be. Back in Roy Barnes last term, he really ticked off a vast sector of the populace and some really close friends by leading the charge to outlaw coin-o-matic gambling machines in convenience stores all over the state. His charge was successful and a particular close friend of Barnes had been monetarily successful in the coin-o-matic gambling business. She was no longer a close friend of Barnes and vowed to have him defeated in his bid for re-election. She poured a vast amount of money into the Perdue advertising machine and it paid off.

Now this was only part of the recipe to remove Roy from office back then. We have to add in the teacher’s union also. I look at fact based economic data from back then and Georgia was doing OK. I can’t figure out where Deal gets this “Last in Jobs in the Nation” claim. Schools…..yeah were lousy, but they’ve been lousy since the 1970’s. We Georgians evidently don’t feel gettin’ edgeahmoocated is all that important. Barnes tried to move the state ahead in this category, and he ticked off the teacher’s union.

It must be this edgeahmoocation process that has evidently enlightened Georgia voters into wanting Deal as governor. How else would you elect a person who resigned from another job to stop an investigation into his conduct. (They went on with the investigation anyway and issued a report) How else would you elect a person that after pointing out discrepancies he would admit he forgot to include in his publicly issued financial reports. (Three times)

I can go on, but you’ve all read it in this newspaper (It’s also on the Congressional Record), but evidently because of party unity and power don’t give a damn and want to perpetuate the laughable status that Georgia enjoys around the nation. Deal is a wheel whose personal life is a disaster at this moment and I’ll be the first to say I feel for him and his family, but business is business.

If we were in the greatest of economic times, then Georgia voters could stick any self absorbed politician into the spot and operate the state on cruise control. This is not the case. This is a very serious time and it calls for a very serious choice.

Nathan Deal is not that choice.

Sharia Lawyer

October 30th, 2010
11:02 am

I’m voting for Sam Olens for AG. He will at least have enough respect for the law to indict Nathan Deal when the time arises.

Wreck

October 30th, 2010
11:14 am

LOL @ sharia!

I am voting for Monds and Olens.

RGB

October 30th, 2010
11:58 am

Dems believe that ALL people should have fundamental rights protected by government…

Oh, ‘cept Second Amendment rights.

Oh, and First Amendment rights if you’re a conservative talk show host.

Oh, and then there’s the border issue with AZ wanting the federal government to protect the border and Obama’s Justice Dept. suing them.

Then there’s the healthcare mandate which forces American citizens to buy a plan or they will be fined. Maybe they can force us to buy something new each election cycle.

Then there’s the issue of using a lone federal judge to thwart the will of the majority of the electorate in things such as gay marriage.

Or having the EPA circumvent Congress by regulating carbon dioxide emissions.

Or making electricity rates “necessarily skyrocket” with Cap and Tax legislation.

Hmmm, are you sure that “Dems believe that ALL people should have fundamental rights protected by government”?

Or might that be the strict adherents to the Constitution who call themselves Conservatives?

khc

October 30th, 2010
12:10 pm

fred you’re a dumb arse….it was thurbert baker not thurmond

Tuckerman

October 30th, 2010
12:11 pm

Vote Divided Government –

If you agree neither Repubs or Dems in GA are worth a damn, then split the govt. Don’t give either party all of the power. Divide the power. It’s the only way to keep them honest.

A vote for Deal will give the Repub. legislature a rubber stamp. Vote accountability. Vote Barnes to be a check to the Repub. legislature — and the Repubs. will provide a check to Barnes in return.

GreatATLGuy

October 30th, 2010
12:28 pm

Dear RGB — you don’t have to like certain laws or amendments but if they are the laws of the land made by lawmakers that the people vote in, you gotta live and abide by them… I’m sure you don’t like Rowe v. Wade, but it is the law of the land and there’s nothing you can do about it except vote for those you believe might be able to get it overturned. And fyi, not all Dems oppose the second amendment. And if you need clarification on the first amendment you might ask Christine O to explain it more fully to you. And by the way, I support talk radio and welcome idiots like Rush, Sean, et.al. who actually help the Dems by spewing the venom they spew.

Last Man Standing

October 30th, 2010
12:52 pm

GreatATLGuy:

I’m going to type this slowly so that you can understand it.

No rational person would expect Obama to “fix past messes in 22 months”, however the people did NOT elect him to transform this country into a socialist nation. I also have a problem with the government defining “fundamental rights”. The government does not have the authority to determine fundamental rights: the rights that we have as individuals are enumerated in the Bill of Rights subject only to the interpretation of the Court. There has been a tendency to call entitlement programs “rights” and this is not true. Entitlements exist only as long as the elctorate will permit. Health care is not a “right” and the government can not force people to buy it.

To run as a democrat is to espouse what the democrat party endorses. The democrat party has adopted a liberal/progressive posture. If you agree with that posture and you thought King Roy did a good job before when he was governor, vote for him. There are too many of us who remember his last time at bat and too many of us who disagree with the democrats’ liberal/progressive platform to allow Barnes a curtain call.

Have a nice day . . .

Last Man Standing

October 30th, 2010
12:55 pm

RGB:

Very well stated and oh, so true!

GreatATLGuy

October 30th, 2010
1:15 pm

Thanks for the opinion, RGB….. but our president, who was elected by the majority, is not a socialist, you need to google what that means exactly… and you’re wrong about entitlements being associated with rights… Social Security and Medicare are entitlements AND rights since we paid for them, as are many other government programs, education being another, since it is paid for with our tax dollars. And if these programs are changed or amended by the people who are voted into office by the majority there is nothing you (or I) can do about it if we don’t like it except VOTE or run for office ourselves. And PS, basic health care should be a fundamental right of every legal citizen of the U.S. who pays taxes.

Rich

October 30th, 2010
1:56 pm

GreatATLGuy – We are a republic not a democracy. I can not tell you what Obama is as far as a socialist or not. His policies are fascist, which is the means of production in private hands but controlled by the government.

GreatATLGuy

October 30th, 2010
2:21 pm

Rich – correct, we are a republic… who said anything about a democracy? The people don’t make policy, the reps who the people vote in do….. AND fyi, Obama’s policies are not fascist, which means extreme right. You need to do a 360 on that one, bud.

Rich

October 30th, 2010
2:29 pm

My poit with the republic vs democracy is that the Consitution is the primary rule of law. The elected officials are limited by it. One question; When the right was in charge, did you have the same viewpoint that they could do whatever they wanted? I did not then and do not now.
Fascist does not mean extreme right. It is a type of govenment that he means of production is privately owned but controlled by the government. Banks and auto companies are examples today.

Rich

October 30th, 2010
2:30 pm

point, but I assume you knew that.