Your morning jolt: ‘I’ll come down and cuss you if you want,’ Barack Obama told Roy Barnes
Before heading to Savannah, Democratic nominee for governor Roy Barnes stopped by to talk to Frank Ski and Wanda Smith at V-103, one of Atlanta’s most popular radio stations – with a large African-American audience.
Right off the bat, Ski played an ad that – the radio host declared – Barnes had backed with a whole lot of money on his station. The clip had Republican rival Nathan Deal using the phrase “ghetto grandmothers.”
Democrat Roy Barnes told V-103 listeners Thursday that President Barack Obama encouraged him to miss his August visit to Atlanta. JohnnyCrawford, Jcrawford@ajc.com
“What did you think about that?” Ski asked.
Said Barnes:
“I thought it showed a great deal of insensitivity and a lack of knowledge about our state. It’s offensive to me, and I can just imagine how offensive it is to others that would hear it. What does that mean? I don’t know what that means, but I’ve got a good idea that it’s not very favorable.”
The Democratic nominee talked about other topics for a while. Barnes called Zell Miller a “very progressive governor” – a bit of an inside joke, given that “progressive” is the new “liberal.”
And he condemned a very particular outside group playing in the governor’s contest:
“Never in Georgia’s history have we had an outside group such as the Republican Governors Association come in – and I think they’re going to end up seven or eight million dollars. Easily. An outside group that comes in and does nothing but distort the record that I had as governor.”
But ultimately, Ski got down to business, with the question on the minds of many of his listeners: “Did you distance yourself from President Barack Obama when he visited Georgia?”
Said Barnes:
“No. And I’ve said this several times. The president called me the day after the primary, which was on a Wednesday. I didn’t expect to win the primary without a runoff, so we had had three full weeks of schedule that already was set up.
“The day he was coming, on Monday, I had 80 sheriffs that were endorsing me throughout Georgia. So he called me on the day after, and – he’s got a great sense of humor, by the way. He said, ‘Congratulations.’ He says, ‘I’ll come down and cuss you if you need me to.’ And I said, ‘No, I don’t want you to come down and cuss me.’
“And he laughed, and I said, ‘Listen, you’re going to be here Monday.’ I said, ‘I’ve got 80 sheriffs that are endorsing me. Tell me what you want.’
“He said, ‘I want you to go ahead with the sheriffs.’
“And I said, ‘Well, I’ll cancel it if you want me to.’
“He said, ‘I want you to go ahead with the sheriffs.’ He said, ‘Listen, you can always see me.’ He said, ‘I’m coming down there to raise some money on the national party,’ and he said, ‘You go on with your sheriffs.’
“Let me tell you this. This is the president of the United States. And the disrespect that he has been shown by the Republican Governors Association and by all, really, Republican establishment is astounding….”
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Mark Rountree and Landmark Communications, a GOP political strategy firm, released another round of polling on Wednesday that showed the governor’s race largely frozen in place, with Republican Nathan Deal just below what he needs to escape another four weeks of campaigning.
Rountree adds this:
Landmark asked voters how they would vote between Deal and Barnes in the event of a runoff election. 51 percent of voters chose Deal and 43 percent chose Barnes – an 8-point margin.
Rountree said, “Libertarians decidedly come down on the side of Deal. Third party voters say they would support Deal over Barnes by a 3 to 1 margin.”
The poll was based on exchanges with 1,686 “active voters” on Tuesday. MOE is +/- 2.4 percentage points.
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Jeff
October 28th, 2010
10:06 am
As I’ve said elsewhere, I’m fairly well connected with Libertarians in Georgia (having been a former Local Affiliate Chair and member of the State Executive Committee and all…), and I simply do NOT see Rountree’s numbers on Libertarians supporting Deal. In fact, I’ve seen just the opposite – an overwhelming number of Libertarians who know that Roy Barnes was MORE fiscally conservative than Sonny Perdue (we tend not to listen to the RGA’s rhetoric) and plan to support him should John Monds not be in the runoff. Our reasoning is simple: A Split Government tends (in the long term) to mitigate the abuses of EITHER Party.
The Republicans, with their lack of understanding of how laws are created, continue to implicate their own House Speaker David Ralston (who is unopposed next week, and to my knowledge his Speakership will be unopposed next month) in their anti-Barnes paranoia. With GOP control of the General Assembly – which is absolutely NOT in question for at least two years, and is actually expected to INCREASE slightly next week – Roy Barnes simply will not have bills sent to him such as what the Republicans are saying he will do. Remember, the Governor can ONLY sign bills or veto them, he can NOT write them. If Roy Barnes DOES veto a bill Republicans truly want, they have or nearly have enough votes in the Assembly to override such a veto.
In other words, Roy Barnes will be nearly as effectively neutered as Governor as Mark Taylor was as Lt Governor when Eric Johnson was “the de facto Lt Governor”, as he likes to proclaim.
Republican paranoia over Roy Barnes is nothing more than that: paranoia.
Janice
October 28th, 2010
10:09 am
Its really sad that organisations like the RGA are pumping money into this campaign to get a crook like Deal elected. It shows how much they care about our state……………..
Road Scholar
October 28th, 2010
10:11 am
Well put, Jeff!
Linda Schrenko #56443-019
October 28th, 2010
10:13 am
Can’t believe it’s only a few days until Big Nate pulls off the biggest caper yet! The only thing that could mess this up now is those meddlin’ kids.
Bubba
October 28th, 2010
10:13 am
Who is this Obama guy? never heard of him
A Choice
October 28th, 2010
10:24 am
Ironic that people are clammoring to put a Republican in the Superintendent’s seat since the past two have been put in prison and cut and run after a failed math curriculum: Shrenko and Cox respectively.
The Thin Guy
October 28th, 2010
10:26 am
Neither Nice Nathan nor King Roy have solutions to Georgia’s problems because the source is in Washington with the most anti business, anti free enterprise, anti American, and corrupt maladministration in American history, I intend to vote for John Monds on Tuesday and hope there is a runoff so that King Roy will have to spend a few more million of his ambulance chasing money before being crushed by Nice Nathan. Yes, Nice Nathan is ethically challenged and would probably be ineffective as gov. But King Roy is a lawyer. He’d put his arm up a snake arse if he thought there was a nickel up there. Liberals, lawyers, and labor unions are the root cause of most of our nation’s problems. Don’t vote for anyone on Tuesday. Vote against King Roy.
Urkel > Obama
October 28th, 2010
10:27 am
I feel sorry for the people who are over the age of 18 who still listen to V-103.
It was fun to listen to in high school, but getting out in the so-called “real world” shows you how pathetic & unlistenable the content and personalities on that station are.
General Lee
October 28th, 2010
10:29 am
No coincidence that Nathan Deal is first in the polls and Georgia is last in education.
James
October 28th, 2010
10:30 am
So the Republican Governors Association was “disrespectful” to President Obama. How terrible!! How much respect did Democrats show to President George W. Bush, when he was president? NONE!!
Jeff
October 28th, 2010
10:32 am
The Thin Guy:
You do know “nice nathan” (who isn’t so nice to the ladies whose rapists he helped question their sex lives) is a LAWYER as well, right?
glimpseofclarity
October 28th, 2010
10:32 am
It is shame that maybe a Republican can probably steal the election in Georgia. Also, how did the majority of America elect the President and then turn their backs on him like they have? He won by a large margin and it took all ages, races and social/economic backgrounds to do something like that and yet he has been just tossed aside. It stinks
Lance
October 28th, 2010
10:33 am
Amen to that Urkel>Obama. V-103 is 100% left on everything. Frank Ski is a first class idiot!
Tancred
October 28th, 2010
10:33 am
“Ghetto Grandmothers” are the mothers of young black girls that have babies and whose baby daddies are not around, so they end up taking care (a lot of the time) of their grandchildren while the daughter is out doing who-knows-what. It doesn’t have to be a pejoritive, actually, but it’s used as a not-so-subtle code to let white conservatives know that Deal is on their side, you know, that he “thinks” like they do. Race has been a big factor in nearly every election where blacks had the ability to vote. There was a time when they couldn’t, so it’s a pretty big deal (oops) even today. Barnes certainly knows what the term means, but he can’t say he does. It’s funny to see the visage of a very young Barnes on the cover of today’s Loaf. I think the momentum is with Deal, especially since a lot of racists don’t exactly trumpet themselves before they vote.
Boot Barnes Again
October 28th, 2010
10:33 am
Barnes is lying again. Yeah, right, that is what was said between him and Obama!
not a stan fan
October 28th, 2010
10:35 am
Why no questions for Court of Appeals candidate Stan Gunter? As DA, shouldn’t he have looked in allegedly stolen money at the Union County Tax Commissioners office?
http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/10/28/gunter-was-told-of-potential-crimes-and-did-nothing-repeatedly/
BlahBlahBlah
October 28th, 2010
10:36 am
I agree with Jeff. I will vote Libertarian on Tuesday. But if there is a runoff I will vote for Barnes. My wife plans to do the same thing.
david
October 28th, 2010
10:36 am
I vote Libertarian! A vote for liberty is never a wasted vote!
Janice
October 28th, 2010
10:37 am
What is with this “give more to business” rubbish from the Republicans. Businesses are already making record profits so why in the world should we give them and the super rich more tax breaks.
Since Obama has taken office the stock market is up 45% and corporate profits are way up. Yet in the same period unemployment has also increased. What in the world makes people think giving businesses even more tax breaks will make them better corporate citizens? All they will do is make more profit, pay their CEO’s even more money and still try and lower workers wages and benefits/outsource jobs. Wake up Republicans voters who make less than 250k agi, you are voting for a party who wants to screw you……….
Lance
October 28th, 2010
10:38 am
@ glimpseofclarity
I’ll tell you how everyone has turned their backs on “The chosen one”
Because he’s full of crap. America was NOT built on Socialism and America is fed up. More taxes, more regulation and without a doubt, more,more, more Government. I don’t trust one word Obama says. It’s all smoke a mirros. He is a joke of a President who has no clue what he’s doing. How many people have left his administration since he was elected?? That has to tell you something.
Sherman
October 28th, 2010
10:41 am
Really James? Who really respected George W. Bush? Even the people that voted him in were like “oh crap!” The very next day. Remember the day he proclaim the war is over, “Mission Accomplished.” Boy he really fed us a bunch of crap. Seven years later we’re still there. Look where we are today, it’s still going on…and we lost billions of dollars and the economy took a nose dive after that. Respect. HA! Get of here with that.
GTBee
October 28th, 2010
10:41 am
I’m voting Republican for the 3 top spots and Libertarian for the rest. No wasting my vote!
PAM G.
October 28th, 2010
10:44 am
Every Republican thinks that his/her party is the only party that do any good for the country. Well, they had 8 years and look at what it has gotten us. If Deal can’t manage his own personal finances, how in the world can he manage a state budget?
roybama barnes
October 28th, 2010
10:46 am
Roy Barnes coddled and empowered the most notorious serial pedophile in U.S. history. Malachi York is spending 135 years in prison for raping and molesting women, boys and children as young as a baby! Roy Barnes is running for governor. http://bibbrepublicanparty.com.
john
October 28th, 2010
10:47 am
Obama is funny as hell.
Clayton Bigsby
October 28th, 2010
10:50 am
I bought a Venus Fly Trap today. I was going to name it ‘Republican’, but the fly trap is beneficial to the environment. I’ll save that name – someday I might find a plant that eats poor people and minorities.
jerry
October 28th, 2010
10:55 am
Well said Janice. Most of the regular people i.e not millionaires and CEO’s who are voting Repub are really doing so because of their fears and prejudices. Any sane person can see that more tax cuts for business will only lead to more profits for them, more job cuts and more money for the investing class and CEO’s. Unfortunately, sanity is no longer as common as it used to be.
Smokewagon
October 28th, 2010
10:57 am
Deal prosecuted sex offenders and Barnes defended them. No brainer vote for me.
Always right
October 28th, 2010
10:57 am
Oh Janice…. you’re an idiot. Go back to the UK and have fun with your collapsing socialist government
Jeff
October 28th, 2010
10:58 am
Malachi York is spending 135 years in a Federal Penitentiary BECAUSE Roy Barnes kept a local podunk Sheriff from slapping him on the wrist and letting him off the hook, Maurice.
WordsInRed
October 28th, 2010
10:58 am
Oh Ye Hypocrits
THERIGHTISWRONG
October 28th, 2010
10:59 am
Just like a conservative blogger wrote a week ago, “Deal is a crook, but he’s our crook”.
Dems need to get out and vote. The Right Wing is telling folks not to vote, spending huge amounts of money toward mis-information overload against the Dems, and attacking our President as if they had NO hand in the mess that he is trying to fix.
Deal is a joke, a crook, and from those remarks I consider him a white trash thug himself. Roy cares about this state and the people in this state. He has many friends of ALL races and is fiscally sound. So come on folks, please get out and vote. Don’t let these hoodlums spend all of this money just to lie to you and make you feel like they will help you.
Remember, the majority of Republicans are Narcissistic, they care about themselves, their families, and their close friends that look like them. They don’t give a damn about anyone else. Look at their policies, anti-gay, anti-affirmative action (minorities), pro-life (you can’t choose but they can), cut taxes for the rich (the so-called trickle down never works plus it has been proven that tax-cuts don’t create jobs), smaller government (liars: under Bush the government grew more than any other President), deficit reduction (again, under Bush we went from a surplus to a deficit).
DON’T LET THEM (CONSERVATIVES) PISS ON YOUR BACK AND TELL YOU THAT IT IS RAINING!
WAKE UP GA, VOTE DEMOCRATIC AND FOR ROY BARNES! LET’S KEEP MOVING FORWARD….
Always right
October 28th, 2010
11:00 am
Geez Jerry, you just don’t understand cause & effect do you? Cut business taxes and they can invest back into the business, hire more workers and give basic raises. Increase their taxes and they are forced to hold back in order to meet specific financial goals. REALLY raise their taxes and they either move to a State that is more business friendly or worse yet, out of the country.
GG1968
October 28th, 2010
11:00 am
I’ve often wonder how those that plan to vote (or have already voted) libratarian in the general election will vote in the runoff given that they don’t really want to vote for either side. I hope that poll is wrong and that most will not vote for Deal. He will ruin our state even more.
markie mark
October 28th, 2010
11:01 am
@glimpse…
“He won by a large margin and it took all ages, races and social/economic backgrounds to do something like that and yet he has been just tossed aside. It stinks”
Wow, have you been paying attention the last two years? All ages, races and backgrounds have been….thats why he is being tossed aside. Like it or not, its still a center right country. And going hard left after the election may make your left coast and new england base happier then hell, but the rest of us center rights are not.
Always right
October 28th, 2010
11:04 am
THERIGHTISWRONG – Really? Show me proof where cutting taxes DOESNT increase jobs and Govt revenue. Show me in writing the study that’s been done.
Affirmitive action??? Oh, you mean legal reverse discrimination. Just because you’re a minority doesnt give you SPECIAL rights over and above anyone else. If we’re all created equal then it should be a level playing field, not one where somone is forced to hire the less qualified person just because the law says they have to.
KevinM
October 28th, 2010
11:05 am
All Obama has shown is the ability to print money, pay for his ‘changes’ tomorrow and criticize anyone who isn’t lapping him up.
Enough is enough…and sadly Deal ends up being a better candidate than Barnes, who was a train wreck the first time…….remember all that 400 toll money spent while Roy was in charge?
markie mark
October 28th, 2010
11:05 am
“Remember the day he proclaim the war is over, “Mission Accomplished.”
Repeating a lie does not make it true. GWB never said that. A staffer hung that banner from from the “island” of an aircraft carrier, and by all accounts GWB never saw it till he landed.
Jeff
October 28th, 2010
11:06 am
GG:
I’ve heard all three. The more activist Libertarians are almost exclusively planning to Block Deal in a runoff, should he make it there. I know others who are voting for John as a protest to “both” “major” parties and their candidates (for various reasons), and many of this group plan to simply sit at home in a runoff. I know a FEW (as it, count on a single hand) who are voting for John Tues (or have voted for him already) who are planning to vote Deal in a runoff – and these are almost exclusively Democratic Party activists who despise Roy Barnes even more than the Republicans do.
markie mark
October 28th, 2010
11:10 am
Therightiswrong – here is a word for you – RECUSE. I come from a legal family. And that is exactly what Barnes and/or the judges he appointed are expected to do when they meet each other in the courtroom. To try a case, in front of a judge you appointed, is reprehensible and against all legal ethics I have ever heard of.
gm
October 28th, 2010
11:10 am
Rep are going to be in for a shock, I voted early in a Demo area and the lines were 2 hours”
Demo love it with idiots like Sean Hannity and High scool drop Rush L. tell their listeners its over and we are not comming out to support our party. I Rep are going to win some places but not like they think.
Deal voted aginst the voting right act so what does that tell you about the bigots that vote for him?
ROBOCOP
October 28th, 2010
11:10 am
If Deal is elected Governor, will (should) he approve and sign the annual budget bill which will include state tax dollars for his vehicle salvage business sanctioned by the state’s Department of Revenue and tax dollars he’s paid to lease property to the state of Georgia through the Department of Administrative Services?
How will he handle that? Even if he says he’ll put these interests in a blind trust, should he continue to receive this money? Since Sonny Perdue never put his business interests in a blind trust like every previous Governor in modern history has done, why should Nathan Deal do the same? Has anyone heard him in the 9 debates or TV ads say he’ll divest himself of those interests?
How should he handle this inherent and obvious conflcit of interest? Does this situation negate the ability of the Governor to impose and strictly enforce Executive Branch sanctions for state employees –including employees and officials of the Governor’s office — from engaging in conflicts of interests?
Who out there wishes to speak on his behalf and on how he’ll resolve this problem he’s got?
Observer
October 28th, 2010
11:10 am
On 11/3, I’m quite sure that you Repubs, Tea Partiers, Evangelicals, and general all-around “librul” haters will be so pleased with yourselves. After all, you will have just elected Nathan Deal, a no-nothing, do-nothing, ex-congressman who for 18 YEARS did nothing of note in his time in D.C. and who resigned to avoid ethics investigations. Oh, and by the way, also deeply in debt and hungry to find a new revenue source to get him out of that debt. But, he’s got his finger on your trigger all right. He knows how numbingly blind and stupid you are. He knows that all he has to do is wrap himself in the flag, show the grandkids in a few sappy commercials, tell you lies about his “honesty”, and tell you that he’s fighting those libruls and you will fall over yourselves like a bunch of used dominos. He knows you won’t think. He knows you won’t ask questions. He knows that he can manipulate you and your scary little brains into whatever he wants you to do. I have to hand it to him. He’s a lot smarter than you are, which isn’t saying much now is it? And after he’s elected governor and the indictments come and he’s forced to leave office I can imagine that it will be real hard to find any of you willing to admit that you made it all possible. Good job! P.T. Barnum had a saying about suckers and fools. Welcome to that club, morons.
By the way, I’m an independent. I vote for the greater good. Barnes has his faults and his past, no denying that. However, to choose a do-nothing crook over someone with the experience and political acumen that Barnes has just because in your twisted pretzel logic you are really casting your vote against Obama is a travesty of the highest kind. And an example of the most base kind of stupidity. You will receive the governor that you deserve. Too bad the rest of us will have to suffer too. Fools.
gulliblelikeu
October 28th, 2010
11:11 am
Not crazy about Deal. Found his primary negative ads offensive. But those who say wake to the lies are forgetting or just conveniiently denying that Roy Barnes was a miserable failure as Gov. Ask any teacher. The left despised Barnes until now. Dem, don’t tell me it’s raining! I know your at the urinal!
JR
October 28th, 2010
11:16 am
Jerry, please explain how, exactly, higher profits for businesses lead to more job cuts. It seems to me, Jerry, if businesses have more profits, they hire more people and pay higher wages. Just keep in mind, the more taxes rich people pay, the less money they have to pay your salary.
JR
October 28th, 2010
11:16 am
I feel sorry for the people who would vote for Nathan Deal. Despite his ethical ‘lapses’ and borderline criminal behavior in attempts to enrich himself and his family, the man is obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He’s still broke! If he can’t figure out how to be financially successful himself – how can he do so for the state of Georgia? Come on people, THINK. The man is going to be a disaster.
askip
October 28th, 2010
11:18 am
you people who say King Roy is like you calling Obama our Messiah. Nevermind you probley believe both.
ncgreybr
October 28th, 2010
11:19 am
Tell us tancred….I have a white neighbor lady that takes care of her two grandchildren because their mother left them with her. We’re out here in the country in NC. Is she a “ghetto grandmother”? She’d like to think of herself as a Christian. But then again…
JR
October 28th, 2010
11:23 am
“The man is going to be a disaster.”
I’ll take my chances with one who is only projected to be a disaster rather than one who has actually already been a disaster.
Jerry Mandering
October 28th, 2010
11:23 am
I can’t imagine that Ol’ Roy would need anyone else cussin’ him. I voted for him once and over four years learned better. I look forward to the opportunity to again not vote for him on Tuesday.
ROBOCOP
October 28th, 2010
11:23 am
Which Deal supporters want to try to answer ROBOCOP’S questions @ 11:14am? No takers? How come?
ROBOCOP
October 28th, 2010
11:25 am
OOPS!!! @ 11:10am….
Always right
October 28th, 2010
11:25 am
ncgreybr…. no, she’d be a country grandmother or a redneck grandmother. Chances are these ghetto grandmothers are A: Grandmothers and B: Live is the Ghetto. so…… wouldn’t they indeed be “ghetto Grandmothers”? Duh!!
JR
October 28th, 2010
11:26 am
I think it’s so ironic that all these people who voted for Obama talking about what a bad choice it would be to vote for Deal. You’ve clearly demonstrated you have no clue what you’re doing when you step in the ballot box, so please stop lecturing the rest of us.
THERIGHTISWRONG
October 28th, 2010
11:28 am
@always right…
Fox news talking points huh? Did you go to college? Can you think for yourself?
I’ll help you. When Bush left office the economy was in shambles, correct? YES, THIS IS A FACT…you look it up if you don’t believe me or you were under a rock.
http://sierravoices.com/2010/02/job-losses-under-bush-and-obama-compared/
If you look at the above link you will notice that Obama has done a GREAT job reducing job loss compared to Bush. Why can’t you google this for yourself instead of talking out of the side of your neck? The tax cuts that Bush put into place helped no on other than the rich. Read buddy.
On you second comment about AA, you again have no idea what a level playing field is or is not until you don’t have folks making decisions for you that don’t have your best interest in mind. If the majority of municipalities were run by Black folks who while they might not be technically racist but enjoy being around folks that are black, so they tend to hire black people you probably won’t get a job there. Put the shoe on the other foot for a change. Your white behind could apply for work in every “Black Municipality” and never get hired. Never. That my friend is the reality of minority workers. So AA is needed to make sure that folks are not overlooked because of race. Duh….
Maybe you should be “ALWAYS WRONG” lol………..
Backroom Deal
October 28th, 2010
11:30 am
Jeff, Deal is indeed a lawyer but he hasn’t practiced in a long time because he has been in Congress in Washington DC for 18 years.
Jeff
October 28th, 2010
11:32 am
For those – such as gulliblelikeu, who truly is gullible, that say that Barnes was “terrible” as Governor:
Here is, for better or for worse, “The Record of The King“, as documented in the Georgia General Assembly’s Legislative tracking system, LEGIS.
Provide specifics on where the King was sooooo terrible, please. I haven’t had a single Deal supporter give one yet.
JR
October 28th, 2010
11:42 am
@THERIGHTISWRONG…
MoveOn.org talking points huh? Did you go to college? Can you think for yourself?
I’ll help you. When Bush left office the economy was on the upswing, correct? YES, THIS IS A FACT…you look it up if you don’t believe me or you were under a rock.
http://sierravoices.com/2010/02/job-losses-under-bush-and-obama-compared/
If you look at the above link, you will see the lengths Democrats will go to to twist the facts in their favor. However, the undeniable fact (undeniable unless you’re a Pelosi robot) is Obama has done a GREAT job killing jobs compared to Bush. Why can’t you Google this for yourself instead of talking out of the side of your neck? The tax cuts that Bush put into place helped everyone, including the rich people who pay your salary. Read buddy.
Wolves in Wolves clothing
October 28th, 2010
11:44 am
ROY BARNES IS COMPLETELY LYING
HE WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA. HECK, EVEN JIM GALLOWAY REPORTED ON THAT A FEW WEEKS AGO
ROY IS A DESPERATE MAN UNFIT FOR GOVERNORSHIP
NOW IF ONLY DEAL WERE ANY BETTER.
MONDS MONDS MONDS WAKE UP GEORGIA
td
October 28th, 2010
11:45 am
Jeff,
“If Roy Barnes DOES veto a bill Republicans truly want, they have or nearly have enough votes in the Assembly to override such a veto.”
That is not true. There are no where near enough votes in the state Senate to over ride the a veto. There are enough in the House. The bottom line would be if Barnes could effectively block any legislation. Also, do not forget that the Governor in this state has a line item veto. The governor can change any peace of legislation by simply marking out the intent line of the legislation and then redirecting the money to some place else.
THERIGHTISWRONG
October 28th, 2010
11:45 am
@ markie mark….
My dad, brother, 2 best friends, and my cousin are ALL lawyers. I have a MBA on top of that so I understand more words that your limited brain can handle.
Now to your “RECUSE” statement. Roy Barnes was representing defendants in those cases. When a lawyer “recuses” him or her self it is usually when they have been appointed to represent someone and there is a conflict. Those clients came to Roy, he took their case and went before some judges that he had appointed. Big deal. Everyone has a job to do and will be held accountable for their actions (including the judges). Roy is a former Governor, and they appoint judges. He did no ask for those judges to hear his case, they are picked by the municipality. Lastly, the prosecution has a chance before trial to raise any concerns that it may have. Apparently, neither the prosecution or the judges for that matter had any problem with Roy trying those cases. The fact is, the prosecutors see those judges a lot more than the defense lawyers in most cases. So the prosecutors generally have a BETTER relationship with the judges than even ole Roy.
Got it?
Observer
October 28th, 2010
11:46 am
JR, we do know what we are doing and that is why we are trying to save people like you from yourselves before you step into the ballot box and vote to run the state off of the cliff. Go ahead and do what you have to do, though. Sometimes the mob mentality has to run its course before sanity and reason can return.
Do you really care for GA?
October 28th, 2010
11:46 am
Everyone who “dislikes” Barnes keep saying look at his record. Well look at his record as governor and you will see the state was in a lot better fiscal shape before Perdue (GOP) and the General Assembly (GOP) came to power.
Barnes lost because he tried to do education reform (the teachers turned on him and now are begging him back because Sonny cut their income, raises, and raised health care cost), he tried to improve transportation (I bet people wish the Northern Arc was under constrution, not only would it have helped with traffice, more Georgians would be working), and he changed an outdate state flag that no longer represented the PEOPLE of GA (just a few people who still believe the civil war is raging). I hope common sense prevails, I have not seen one ad detailing any issues Deal stands for, it is just all anti-Obama murlaky. I hope the state of GA does not reward Deal for “quitting Congress” because an ethics violation was hanging over his head, we will pay dearly.
WAW
October 28th, 2010
11:48 am
“You’ve got to be taught to be afraid, of people who’s eyes are oddly made, and people whose skin is a different shade, you’ve got to be carefully taught. You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late, before you are six, or seven, or eight to hate all the people your relatives hate. You’ve got to be carefully taught.” Oscar Hammerstein
In twenty years, the Old South racist will have died out and Georgia might have a chance. Till then they will keep voting the Republican Southern Strategy as taught so well. President of the United States of American, Barack Obama will then be recognized as the latest man to save the Union from the Confederacy.
td
October 28th, 2010
11:50 am
ROBOCOP
October 28th, 2010
11:10 am
If Deal is elected Governor, will (should) he approve and sign the annual budget bill which will include state tax dollars for his vehicle salvage business sanctioned by the state’s Department of Revenue and tax dollars he’s paid to lease property to the state of Georgia through the Department of Administrative Services?
Same question could be asked about Barnes. Should he sign any legislation that will directly benefit his law firm? This would include any more regulation or liability issues in the law.
THERIGHTISWRONG
October 28th, 2010
11:51 am
JR=stupid is, stupid does….
lol
You know how to copy and paste huh? The REAL truth hurts when you keep spreading lies doesn’t it?
No sense and trying to reason with someone WITHOUT common sense… Your a waste of time, go and punch your time clock, time for you to go home…..
ANTHONY
October 28th, 2010
11:52 am
While it concerns me that Nathan Deal has some ethics and financial issues. I feel obligated to vote for him instead of Roy Barnes. Barnes is an arrogant politician who does not care about the will of the people and will do whatever he pleases as Governor. I feel that Deal will at least listen to what the voters want and won’t try to jam things down our throats.
gm
October 28th, 2010
11:54 am
Thanks, Rep for sending us Deal” an man that voted against the voting rights acts (ops, I forgot thats because its against African American and you could care less)
Never mind he can make these bigot comments and its ok with white conservatives, I forgot those people are not playing football or baskeball for you, so its ok.
Thanks for sending the tea party, thats why there is a 2 hours waite at the polls in Demo area. We are not going back to state control of 1959 with Deal and his bigots friend Newt.
professional skeptic
October 28th, 2010
11:57 am
Extremely interesting:
When confronted with evidence of Republican Joe Miller’s lies and past misdeeds, Alaskans are now withdrawing their support of Miller.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2010/10/28/the-incredible-shrinking-joe-miller.aspx
Here in Georgia, however, when confronted with evidence of Republican Nathan Deal’s lies and misdeeds, support for Deal only grows stronger.
I’m beginning to think that Alaskans are made of sterner stuff than Georgians; that morality and honesty mean more to Alaskans than they mean to the people of Georgia.
Please, Georgia: Let’s follow the example set by Alaska. When a candidate has demonstrated that he is liar and a crook, we need to put principle over party and choose the better alternative. Alaskans know that they need to choose the best leader for Alaska – one who doesn’t lie to taxpayers or use his government position for self-enrichment.
Alaskans are saying NO to Joe Miller, now that they know what a liar he is. Alaskans are NOT just “holding their noses” and voting for Joe Miller anyway.
Do Georgians have the moral fortitude to say NO to Nathan Deal? For the sake of Georgia, I pray that we do.
td
October 28th, 2010
12:03 pm
gm
October 28th, 2010
11:54 am
“thats why there is a 2 hours waite at the polls in Demo area.”
Where? If this was true then it would be all over the news. I do know that Cobb, Cherokee, Forsyth, Hall and Gwinn are reporting that they are getting the most early votes ever for any election. You think they are voting for Barnes?
ELVISINTHEHOUSE.
October 28th, 2010
12:04 pm
OOps here we go again,someone alerted the kkk and told them jim created a blog on blacks.Being a racist is in over 50% of white folks blood,its called generational curse.
td
October 28th, 2010
12:06 pm
professional skeptic
October 28th, 2010
11:57 am
Slate is your source? Please. I am sitting here watching MSNBC and they are reporting that the gender gap is non existent this year. This is from a left wing reporting source.
td
October 28th, 2010
12:10 pm
professional skeptic
October 28th, 2010
11:57 am
“Do Georgians have the moral fortitude to say NO to Nathan Deal? For the sake of Georgia, I pray that we do.”
To do what vote for a, if not more than equally, morally corrupt individual? Why did Barnes not get a second term? Was it because he lied to people while in office?
Ole Roy
October 28th, 2010
12:19 pm
While on a Black radio station I will support Obama…with all other radio stations, I will continue to distance myself from Obama.
Jeff
October 28th, 2010
12:24 pm
td:
There are 34 GOP State Senators right now. 2/3 majority (which is what I believe is required for veto overrule) is 37. There are 7 seats being decided next Tues from people retiring or running for other races (that list was built from memory, but give it +/- 2 on the outside) There are 23 seats facing opposition (including the 7), but at least a couple of those are certified write in opposition, meaning “not a chance in Hades”. Among the 23 are at least two that seem to be possible (if not definite) wins for the GOP – Josh McKoon in Seth Harp’s old seat, and possibly Garry Guan for the seat currently held by Curt Thompson. Also in there are two former State Reps (Fran Millar and Barry Loudermilk) looking to move across the hall. Overall, I’m thinking (just from my gut, I haven’t seen any numbers) that if any change, it will be at least +1-2 GOP. (GOP year and all)
What those numbers mean is that the GOP is already “near” veto override level even in the Senate, and after Tues I fully expect them to be even closer or possibly even exceed it.
Even if they fall just under it, do you really think it would be THAT hard to convince a D to override if the legislation were truly good?
CWS
October 28th, 2010
12:24 pm
you people need to wake up, a vote for the libertarian party will probably result in 4 more years of sonny rule times x 10
it is unfortunate that deal has financial problems as many of us have (thanks republican leaders)
but he needs to concentrate on putting his house back in order
not running-ruining our great state
i am appalled at perdue taking credit for strides in education this week; when in fact in is in spite of him.
you can thank our great teachers in this state for working harder
even as perdue has taken away hundreds of millions earmarked for education; all to fund his pet projects
you want more of the same……then vote deal next tuesday
our only chance to pull georgia out of this abyss is to elect roy barnes
and we need to send a message by electing him by huge margins
please go vote
or shut your griping
TnGelding
October 28th, 2010
12:25 pm
How anyone could continue to support Deal is beyond me. Maybe it’s not too late to get that cussing out from the Kenyan prince. I don’t remember things being that bad when King Roy reigned.
GaDMC
October 28th, 2010
12:30 pm
Its funny how we are tight on money but they can just dump millions and millions to endorse a crook as Nathan Deal.
I rather have Roy Barnes at least he knows how to handle business and run it right this is what Georgia needs, not someone involved in investigations, damn near broke and you want to call that a stand up guy.
Barnes has his flaws but when you compare the two I think I rather deal with Barnes than Deal. At least Barnes was a Gov. before, he made is mistakes and now he may have to do good on those.
I think the Republicans are just upset with Roy Barnes because he didn’t save the “Confederate Flag”
professional skeptic
October 28th, 2010
12:39 pm
td:
You’re a good campaign staffer, trying your best as always to muddy up the facts.
Fact: Joe Miller enjoyed the support of Alaskans, until news of his lies and misdeeds became public knowledge.
Fact: Nathan Deal’s lies and misdeeds became public knowledge after the GA primary, but he remains a leading candidate.
Are Alaskans more moral than Georgians?
WM
October 28th, 2010
12:42 pm
You people are funny. ” All of you [Insert name of conservative group here] are bigots and racist!!” or “All of you [Insert name of liberal group here] here are idiots and socialists!” are they type comments I’ve read on this blog. Heck that’s all I ever read on blogs by Tucker, Bookman, Wingfield, etc. While the comments are entertaining, it’s actually really sad to be honest. No two people can have a civil discussion on what’s happening in this country or state or even this city because everyone comes to the table with preconceived notions on the other person. (Conservative=Racists, Liberal=Socialist)
You all fail to see that both Barnes and Deal both are crooks and will do nothing they are promising you if elected. Barnes will kiss the back side of the teachers groups while Deal will cut deals in the back rooms of the capital that haven’t seen action since the Talmadge days. Yet each of you will (or have) go blindly into the booth on Tuesday and vote for Barnes because he’s got a “D” next to his name or Deal because he’s got an “R” next to his. And all Monds will do is cause a run-off. And it will be status-quo on in on the TV, radio, and on these blog’s: name calling; p*ssing contests over stupid things like salary, jobs, education, social circles, etc; distortion of facts and statistics; regurgitation of talking points during the run-off. All of that. As for me, at one point in my life all I did was breathe politics. Now, I could care less. No one candidate will ever live up to the promises they make. The deck is stacked against them from day 1. But y’all go ahead and vote for Barnes, Deal, or Monds. I’ll meet each of you back here in four years where nothing will have changed except for the name after the title of Governor.
King Roy Barnes, Promises Kept
October 28th, 2010
12:49 pm
Vote for me and I will make all things right.
Always right
October 28th, 2010
2:24 pm
The Right is wrong…. oh my oh my. First off, yes… and I probably have a higher education than you and most definitely make more money. Why else would you be for entitlement programs and as many free handouts as you can get? Obviously you weren’t intelligent enough to make it on your own so you want the reverse discrimination to come into play to help you out.
Want a good example of a municipality run by Blacks that is an absolute failure? Clayton County. What a joke.
Now I can’t believe you made the statement about unemployment and how Obama has done a great job compared to Bush. From 2002 – 2008 the HIGHEST unemployment rate was 6% in 2003 and the lowest was 4.6 in 06 & 07. Mr. Obamas rate? Hmmmm let’s see.. since August of 2009… 9 months into the Obama “change” it was around 9.8% and several months later we saw it rise well over 10%. These “jobs” that the Obama administration created were temporary census jobs. The 9.6% level also does not include people who are underemployed (that means people with college degrees working hourly jobs in case you didn’t know) or people that had given up looking. The actual rate is probably around 16 – 19% unemployment. Plus any new jobs that Obama does create, a majority of them are in the public sector meaning what??? Anyone??? Growth to our Govt that our tax dollars have to pay for. Higher deficit!! Yeehaw!!!
Want some numbers besides unemployment that Obama has helped raise incredibly? How about the deficit as a percentage of GDP. For the last 30 years, it’s generally been around 2.5 – 3.5 %. In 2008 when Bush left office it was 3.18. In 09 it went to 9.91. 2010 it’s 10.64. Why? Because of Obama and Pelosi and Reid and their out of control spending and growth of govt. Well, who’s going to pay for all these “entitlement” programs and new govt salaries, etc… WE are you Dolt!! Jeez….
Plain and simple, there needs to be an IQ test to have the right to vote. Same thing to breed. You just can’t fix stupid.
A better idea, is to assign a number of votes to people based on their income. Low IQ/low income people. NO VOTE. Highly educated, High income earners… multiple votes based on the level of income made and the amount of taxes paid. That way multiple income earners multiple votes can cancel out some of the stupid votes from less educated sheep that follow the chosen one.
FSHSPCVBVXCX VV
October 28th, 2010
2:33 pm
If you vote for (bad) Deal, please vote for Porter of Lt Gov. We will be swearing her in within the year after Deal is indicted.
GPD
October 28th, 2010
2:39 pm
Always right@
2:24 pm
Please proof read before you post.
The Grammar Police
td
October 28th, 2010
2:51 pm
Always right
October 28th, 2010
2:24 pm
LMAO. You have created silence on the blogs. I am sure someone is going to come on here in a minute and call you a racist.
TisP'doff
October 28th, 2010
2:58 pm
We have reached the point where all credibility is lost among candidates. The lies are so many now, that many of the uninformed
will view them as the truth. They will tell everyone they know
of their knowledge and on and on.
Truth….. none of these men are really deserving of the office
of Governor. They have knifed anyone and everyone to get to
this point…. though I do find R B’s being offended rather
funny.
Just remember when you go into the voting booth, no matter what
anyone tells you, you are voting for either one liar or the
next. Take your pick…. they’re all the same.
Always right
October 28th, 2010
3:08 pm
“GPD —- Always right@
2:24 pm
Please proof read before you post”
The Grammar Police
You should do the same because I was right. It’s GDP “Gross Domestic Product” NOT GPD.
GPD
October 28th, 2010
3:23 pm
Alwasy right,
I guess you are an idiot. GPD = Grammar Police Department.
GPD
October 28th, 2010
3:24 pm
pardon my typo…..
Always right
October 28th, 2010
3:34 pm
no pbrolem iodt.
Virginia
October 28th, 2010
3:42 pm
“The White House claimed that the banner was requested by the crew of the ship, who did not have the facilities for producing such a banner. Afterward, the administration and naval sources stated that the banner was the Navy’s idea, White House staff members made the banner, and it was hung by the U.S. Navy personnel. White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN, “We took care of the production of it. We have people to do those things. But the Navy actually put it up.” According to John Dickerson of Time magazine, the White House later conceded that they actually hung the banner but still insists it had been done at the request of the crew members.”
Bush reiterated a “Mission Accomplished” message to the troops at Camp As Sayliyah on June 5, 2003 — about a month after the aircraft carrier incident: “America sent you on a mission to remove a grave threat and to liberate an oppressed people, and that mission has been accomplished.
ROBOCOP
October 28th, 2010
4:29 pm
td @ 11:50am
Why not answer the essay question? Let’s see how quick your little conservative bromides are at tackling a real issue this state will face when Deal takes the Oath of Office. You answer a question by asking another? I don’t think so. Just give it a shot. Let’s see where in your vast library of principled, conservative philosophy you can tell us exactly how the crook you voted for as the next Governor of this state is going to handle these conflicts when he has to sign a budget document in which he has several direct pecuniary interests. Are you going to get all whiney and point to the Marxist, liberal media when he has to start answering those questions? Just try answering the essay question. Let’s see what great ethical standards you can draw upon to figure out how he can ethically sign a budget document where he has a direct conflict of interest. And how will he manage the state employees in conducting themselves ethically when he’s not?
scott
October 28th, 2010
5:16 pm
think things are tough in a state with so many problems now???things things are tough for you and your family…put nathan deal in office and watch georgia sink to an all time low…he cant even manage his own finaces let alone an entire state!!think about georgia!!!!or pay dearly later!!
Last Man Standing
October 28th, 2010
5:22 pm
THERIGHTISWRONG:
“If you look at the above link you will notice that Obama has done a GREAT job reducing job loss compared to Bush.:
I checked the site that you posted, read that the accompanying graph was prepared by Nanacy Pelosi’s office – and read no further! I also noted the word “sierra” in the link. In this case, two strikes and you are OUT!
Virginia
October 28th, 2010
8:49 pm
But Last Man, you’re always so open and objective and never categorize anybody, right? I guess Nancy (the correct spelling) and sierra-I assume you mean Sierra Club-are just the exceptions. Of course, we would not want you to read anything not written and approved by Glenn Beck because, sadly, your head would explode.
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Conservative
October 29th, 2010
4:16 pm
Deal for Governor in 2010 and Herman Cain for President in 2012!