InsiderAdvantage/Channel 2 poll: Another one says governor’s race could be headed for runoff
Yet another statewide poll – the third this week – shows that Georgia’s race for governor remains in runoff territory. From Channel 2 Action News and InsiderAdvantage:
– Republican Nathan Deal, 47 percent;
– Democrat Roy Barnes, 41 percent;
– Libertarian John Monds, 5 percent;
– And undecided, 7 percent.
According to Channel 2 Action News, the survey touched 2,119 voters and has an MOE of +/- 2 percentage points.
IA CEO Matt Towery’s analysis, in part:
“Nathan Deal got a little closer to the magic 50-per-cent-plus-one mark by improving his numbers among independent voters. This is likely the result of recent ads in which Deal has punched back at Democratic nominee Roy Barnes, who hammered Deal with a series of tough ads for months. But this race is not yet decided. Deal continues to have trouble bringing Republicans home. In our last survey, 76 percent of Republicans said they were voting for Deal. In this survey, that percentage remains within the margin of error at 74 percent.”
By happenstance, Emory University this afternoon pushed out the YouTube analysis below by Merle Black, the political scientist, on Barnes’ chances:
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mehlman rings twice
October 26th, 2010
9:57 pm
Brittiny@9:28
Did that 25% increase in the federal budget have anything to do with the unemployment benefits paid to people who lost their jobs because of Bush’s policies? Or maybe it had something to do with previously unfunded costs that were not previously on the books? Sorta like getting a cash advance from your credit card company with the “benefit” of not paying until 6 months later.
td
October 26th, 2010
10:07 pm
Billy Bob
October 26th, 2010
9:47 pm
@td…..I gave Nathan a list of people to fire and save big money, too. Just fire all of Sonny’s agency heads and advisors. I even gave him a list of all the places that have gone to hide. Will be great seeing them have to work elsewhere rather than stroke Sonny and say yes sir.
Amen. The biggest complaint I have heard from Republicans about Sonny was that after all the years of Democratic control of everything he did not clean house and put true conservatives in the bureaucracy. He just replaced the old agency heads with Dems that he still was beholding too. Nathan has promised he will put conservatives in all the positions he can appoint.
Vote-O-Meter
October 26th, 2010
10:08 pm
The Vote-O-Meter numbers are in and show Deal winning without a runoff at 50+%, Barnes at 46%, and Monds at 4%. Feel free to say you read it first here.
Sharia Lawyer
October 26th, 2010
10:11 pm
I mailed Her Excellency Sarah Palin a question back in 2008 asking if she wanted her future son-in-law to be the type of husband like John McCain or Barak Obama. I did not get a response. So Georgians, do you want your father to be more like Nathan Deal or Roy Barnes?
The Centrist
October 26th, 2010
10:20 pm
There is a pattern. Someone runs as a conservative, gets elected, blatantly messes things up and is defended the entire time because they say they are conservative, loses an election to a liberal, and the next conservative says the original conservative was not really a conservative, and gets elected. Anyone want to bet this cycle will repeat itself?
The Centrist
October 26th, 2010
10:23 pm
Come on td. “Nathan has promised he will put conservatives in all the positions he can appoint.” Nathan is a Dixiecrat just like Sonny and he will be just as beholding to those same Dixiecrats as Sonny and will simply appoint younger Dixiecrats.
Virginia
October 26th, 2010
10:34 pm
Oh, please td! You don’t know Nathan and have never had a conversation with him. All that is just in your mind after that first cocktail!
Go for it Repubs and get those House seats and win some of the governor’s races. Obama will win by a landslide in 2012 when folks see how crazy the teabaggers really are! Governing is not all about sound bites and talking points and whipping up emotions at a rally! By 2012 folks will be saying-to quote Jack Nicholson-”go sell crazy some place else”!! Perfect slogan for teabaggers.
Virginia
October 26th, 2010
10:37 pm
@td: Composed 2 comments and they disappeared. Don’t have time to mess with you anymore tonight. See if this gets through (probably will): Bite Me!
Sharia Lawyer
October 26th, 2010
10:42 pm
Enter your comments here
Bring back "Babe Alley" to the Capitol!
October 26th, 2010
11:28 pm
“Political Insider InsiderAdvantage/Channel 2 poll: Another one says governor’s race could be headed for runoff”
It DOES look like the governor’s race is headed for a runoff…….a runoff the side of a cliff into the deep abyss of gutterball politics! Have you all oiled up yet?
concerned citizen
October 26th, 2010
11:41 pm
Do I have to vote for those running or can I vote for someone I think will be best at running the state of GA? In other words can I write in some other name so neither Mr. Deal nor Mr. Barnes will get my vote. I would rather “VOTE FOR MYSELF” !!!!!!!!!! but I know i would not do a good job but I just don’t want either of those two getting my vote.
newton
October 27th, 2010
2:05 am
I agree with best for georgia because deal is incredibly corrupt. would like to have seen better candidates but at least barnes is intelligent and progressive and not corrupt and backward. If Deal gets elected, then we should all be ashamed to be from georgia-especially when he is indicted and/or goes bankrupt
Andy
October 27th, 2010
2:20 am
We’re all screwed. It doesn’t matter who you vote for. One of these guys is going to be the governor of our state. I’m actually considering moving.
Deal’s congressional voting record speaks for itself: he’s anti-abortion (say what you like, but as a legal medical procedure I think it is nobody else’s business whether a woman has one or not), pro-big business, anti-small business, pro war, anti-any kind of additional educational funding (unless coupled with forcing public schools to pray before school starts), anti-affirmative action, anti-environment, and pretty much just the most hate-able person I have ever come across.
Not to mention his debt, eventual forthcoming bankruptcy, and his use of his congressional office to force Georgia to mandate state auto inspections for issuing salvage titles at his personal facility in Gainesville.
The man has no business running our state. Roy Barnes may suck, but he’s the lesser of two horrible evils. At least he isn’t as terrible of a person. I don’t look at him with hatred; that’s a plus.
Anybody but Deal. I’m debating getting some lawn-sized stickers to go around and put on those Deal. Real. signs to make them say “Anybody But” Deal.
Andy
October 27th, 2010
2:26 am
Oh, I forgot. Deal’s voting record is public record and is easy to find on the net. Search Google if you don’t believe me. I couldn’t have made his views up. I had to research it for a class.
You really should look it up actually; I can’t take the man seriously any more since I found out he supported amending the actual Constitution to force schools to mandate class-wide prayer in the classroom and tie federal education funding to each school’s or school district’s compliance with the new amendment. Separation of church and state is as fundamental as it gets for being an effective politician, and if you don’t understand that, you have no business holding an elected office. PS: I’m Christian, so I don’t want to see any atheist comments or anything.
Keith Helms
October 27th, 2010
5:41 am
I simply cannot understand how a decent person can vote for any of the following. Infanticide by choice. The practice of abominations. Forcing decent people to pay for the same benefits for those who practice abominations under the guise of calling it ‘civil unions’. Taking the working peoples’ hard earn money by force so they can use it to buy the votes of people too sorry to work and call it welfare. These are the four main tenets of the Democrat Party and when a person puts that ‘D’ behind their name they admit this is their life tenets also.
Billy in Savannah
October 27th, 2010
5:56 am
Vote Barnes for the future of Georgia. Agree with him or disagree with him he will run the state efficiently.
Sharia Lawyer
October 27th, 2010
6:44 am
I think I will vote for Roybama. My taxes were cut and the value of my 401K is up 18% for the year. Bad Obama.
Churchill's MOM
October 27th, 2010
6:44 am
Corrupt Washington Relic (thanks Karen Handel).. Deal
Failed Governor… Barnes
None of the Above… Monds
None of the Above has my vote.. no need to hold your nose when you vote.
Corrupt Deal Real Steal
October 27th, 2010
7:26 am
When Republican gubernatorial candidate Nathan Deal amended his campaign disclosure form last week, he added some business properties to his asset column and increased the value of another property – boosting his net worth.
Now, questions are being raised about whether the correct property values were used.
The head of the state Ethics Commission, Stacey Kalberman, said Monday that candidates are required to use the assessed value set by county tax officials. Deal’s camp used a higher appraised value.
Last week, Deal listed his half ownership in a Metter, Ga.-based property owned by his Gainesville auto salvage business at $300,000, saying the entire 37.7-acre property in Candler County was worth $600,000. But local tax records show the overall property was valued by county officials as about $304,000.
Deal also listed his half ownership on business property in Gainesville as worth about $2.5 million, with the entire property worth just over $5 million. Again, local tax records value it as almost half. They show the total value for the three parcels of property which make up the salvage site is $1.2 million.
On Monday, Deal’s campaign referred questions to Tifton, Ga.-based accountant, Jimmy Allen, who said he believes the higher values are correct.
“I’m going to stand by the way I filed the form at this point,” Allen said.
Emil Runge, a spokesman for Deal’s Democratic opponent Roy Barnes, said his candidate used the most recent local tax assessment to value his property on his disclosure.
The higher values have helped boost Deal’s net worth, which is listed in the latest form at $2.8 million despite facing questions about his financial solvency.
Deal’s campaign filed a revised form with state ethics officials on Thursday, the second time in a week they had changed the document which provides the public with a look at candidates’ liabilities and assets. The Deal campaign acknowledged mistakes in the earlier versions and suggested that after 18 years of filing federal disclosures when Deal was a congressman they were not used to the state requirements.
Deal’s finances have been under scrutiny for several weeks after word that he is facing a Feb. 1 deadline to repay a $2.3 million loan for a failed sporting goods venture launched by his daughter and son-in-law. He also failed to disclose $2.85 million in business loans on the initial form.
ROBOCOP
October 27th, 2010
7:54 am
Corrupt Deal Real Steal
It’s interesting how Deal’s die-hard supporters just don’t want to address the specifics of their candidate’s conduct. How anyone can knowingling vote Deal in office is amazing. They justify it by saying this is a vote against Obama. Now, that logic escapes me. Put a crook in office who has lied to everyone — including members of his own political party — just because you’re angry at tghe Presdient of the United States.
Makes no sense at all.
ROBOCOP
October 27th, 2010
8:03 am
td and Billy Bob
What source of information are you relying on to say that Perdue appointed or kept Democrats to head up state agencies? Obviously, the two of you know nothing about state government and who runs it. Name the agencies and the agency heads to whom you refer and indicate what evidence you have that they are “Democrats” or hold-overs from Democrat adminstrations. Can you do that? I knew most of the old agency heads in state government, and none of the ones I knew are still running the agencies they had. Just about all of those running state agencies today were hand picked by the state GOP, Perdue and Jim Lientz, Perdue’s former ultra-conservative, hatchet man.
Where do you guys get your information from?
fildawg
October 27th, 2010
8:11 am
Please – use some common sense. Barnes and Deal are both crooks. Vote Monds!
Raw Deal Real Steal
October 27th, 2010
8:15 am
Why is Johnny Isakson at 58% and Raw Deal can’t get to 50%? Simple Deal is a crook and Johnny is not. If Deal hadn’t run his campaign of lies against Karen Handel, she would be at 58%. I’ll vote a straight Republican ticket except for Governor, where I’ll vote Libertarian.
Corrupt Deal Real Steal
October 27th, 2010
8:19 am
Nathan Deal’s campaign for governor has paid a company in which the Republican nominee is a part-owner more than $135,000 to lease aircraft — much more than any other candidate for governor.
Nathan DealSince its launch in May 2009, Deal’s campaign has paid $6,000 a month for access to an airplane and a helicopter, and thousands of dollars a month in flight costs.
Deal’s Democratic opponent, Roy Barnes, has paid about $16,000 for aviation services since July 1, 2009. Deal’s former rival for the GOP nomination, Karen Handel, paid $6,325.40 in airfare in 2010.
State ethics laws bar candidates from using campaign money for personal
Corrupt Deal Real Steal
October 27th, 2010
8:21 am
Nathan Deal claims the press is being “derelict” for digging into his troubled finances rather than the problem with unsafe salvage cars on the road — which his company used to inspect for the state.
Well, maybe the press wouldn’t be spending so much of its “derelict” time on Deal’s finances if they were released and explained in a more timely and understandable way.
Now that the primary is over, and Deal is the Republican nominee for governor of Georgia, we learn that he’s in debt up to his ears — and is facing a $2.3 million payment next February on loans he backed for his daughter’s and son-in-law’s failed sporting goods store.
“Any scenario could leave Deal effectively insolvent,” The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported this week, saying the debt “exceeds the net value of everything they own.”
Later in the week, the paper reported another $2.85 million he and a partner owe on the auto salvage business.
Deal did not, as required, reveal that $2.85 million obligation of his company’s on reports with the state Ethics Commission when he filed to run for governor. He says now that was an “oversight.”
An oversight? When was the last time you forgot a $2.85 million debt?
Look, nearly everyone has money problems these days. That alone shouldn’t disqualify someone from office. But it seems like pulling teeth trying to get an accurate picture of Mr. Deal’s financial state. For weeks now, the campaign of Democratic gubernatorial candidate Roy Barnes has had a field day in ads asking pointed questions about Deal’s dealings.
Now there’s a $2.85 million “oversight”?
Deal communications director Brian Robinson notes that the $2.85 million loan is an obligation of the company Deal co-owns — and that the company is worth $5 million. He also said the company is profitable and the loan is in good standing. So noted. But it’s still an obligation — one that the candidate failed to report on ethics forms.
Robinson said there was confusion on someone’s part — he won’t say whose, saying he wasn’t “getting into the internals” — about whether the $2.85 million loan needed to be on the ethics forms. When we suggested that perhaps someone in the campaign should have asked someone in the know whether the loan needed to be listed, Robinson said, “That’s a fair assertion.”
We just pray there are no other shoes to drop. Mr. Barnes has been handed plenty of ammunition for the fall campaign already.
Giving him more would be — dare we say? — derelict.
Corrupt Deal Real Steal
October 27th, 2010
8:29 am
In the midst of his campaign for governor, Nathan Deal faces such dire financial troubles that he must sell his home to avert foreclosure or bankruptcy.
Nathan Deal helped his daughter and son-in-law obtain more than $2 million in loans for Wilder Outdoors, a sporting goods store in Baldwin, Ga. The business failed — and so did the bank that lent the money.
Deal’s troubles center on a failed business venture by his daughter and son-in-law. Deal and his wife, Sandra, invested about $2 million, but lost their entire stake when the business failed. The Deals also guaranteed a series of bank loans to the business as its debt doubled and then quadrupled.
Finally, the daughter and her husband declared bankruptcy, leaving the Deals solely responsible for an obligation that exceeds the net value of everything they own.
Officials with Deal’s campaign confirmed that the candidate is in a precarious financial position. They described the debt as a sensitive matter for Deal and his wife and their three grown daughters.
“There’s some financial sacrifice, and there’s some financial heartburn there,” said Chris Riley, Deal’s campaign manager.
In a statement late Tuesday, the campaign said: “Like most Americans, Nathan Deal has suffered financial losses over the last four years. He has obligations, and he will meet them.”
Nevertheless, the looming repayment deadline presents a set of unattractive options for Deal, a Republican from Gainesville: He could declare bankruptcy and ask a judge to void the debt. He could sell as many assets as possible and ask the bank to write off the loan’s balance. Or he could default on the loan, forcing the bank to seize property he used as collateral and possibly sue him for the remainder.
Any scenario could leave Deal effectively insolvent.
Deal has publicly addressed the loan’s effect on his financial standing just once: in his written response to an ethics investigation that began before he resigned from the U.S. House of Representatives in March.
Deal was accused of using his congressional staff to pressure state officials to continue a vehicle inspection program that had paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to an auto-salvage company in which he is a part owner. He told investigators he was forced to tap into his equity in the salvage firm — at a rate of $75,000 a year — because of his daughter and son-in-law’s failed business.
“I provided some capital to them to start the business and also co-signed a commercial loan for the business,” Deal wrote to the investigators. “Despite their best efforts, the business did not succeed.”
“The vast majority of my investment,” he said, “has been lost.”
‘No assets — No value’
It must have seemed an ideal spot for a sporting-goods store focused on hiking, hunting and other outdoor pursuits: 1-1/2 acres beside Ga. 365, the busy main highway leading from Gainesville through Habersham County into the mountains of northeast Georgia.
Carrie Deal Wilder and her husband, Clint, went to her parents — Nathan Deal, then the area’s congressman, and Sandra Deal, a retired teacher — for financial help in starting their business in 2005, according to public records and interviews.
In addition to investing about $2 million, the Deals signed papers in December 2005 guaranteeing payment on the first of what would become a series of loans: $506,000 from Gainesville Bank & Trust. Construction began on a 14,000-square-foot metal building, the front of which would be decorated to look like a log cabin.
The loan, backed by the property on Ga. 365, was scheduled to mature in September 2006. But that June, the Deals and the Wilders refinanced, pushing the due date back into the next year.
And in October, they went to another financial institution — Community Bank & Trust of Cornelia — for a second loan of about $1 million, according to documents filed in the Habersham County Courthouse. The Ga. 365 property again served as collateral, along with the Wilders’ home in Demorest.
Wilder Outdoors opened for business on Nov. 24, 2006.
The next summer, the business needed more cash. The Deals signed papers in June 2007 that increased the loan from Community Bank by $252,000. By the time it had been open seven months, the store had accumulated debt totaling almost $1.8 million.
Early in 2008, Wilder Outdoors needed even more money. Community Bank approved a new loan of $2.4 million, with which the Wilders and the Deals paid outstanding debts and provided the business with more capital. They were to make monthly payments of $15,000 for 23 months, according to loan documents, and then pay the remainder — almost $2.3 million — no later than Feb. 1, 2011.
Community Bank, founded in 1900, had come under scrutiny from federal regulators. In the three years since its long-time chief executive had died, the bank’s lending practices had devolved into disarray, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. would later report. Bank officials failed to sufficiently analyze the finances and cash flow of commercial borrowers. They didn’t adequately appraise property used as loan collateral. They didn’t keep track of construction projects their loans were financing. The FDIC would later list numerous instances of what it called “questionable lending activity.”
Regulators shut down Community Bank this January.
When the bank increased the loan for Wilder Outdoors in 2008, it required that the store’s inventory and equipment be listed as additional collateral. The property on Ga. 365, however, remained the primary security, even though it was valued at only about $700,000 — less than one-third the amount of the new loan.
The repeated cash infusions couldn’t keep the store afloat. On March 31, 2009, Wilder Outdoors closed.
In July, Carrie and Clint Wilder filed for bankruptcy, listing the business loan among their debts.
Their description, in court papers, of Wilder Outdoors: “No assets — No value.”
‘He lost a lot of money’
Last November, a federal bankruptcy judge wiped out the Wilders’ debts, including their obligation to Community Bank. The Deals, however, got no relief.
The bankruptcy of one borrower “will not alter the liability of another party,” said Frank Alexander, who teaches bankruptcy law at Emory University.
A liquidation sale brought in enough money to persuade the bank to forgo the $15,000-a-month payments called for in loan papers. Still, being required to assume full responsibility for the loan clearly has devastated Nathan Deal’s finances.
“He lost a lot of money,” said Brian Robinson, a spokesman for Deal’s campaign. “He lost $2 million off the top, and there’s another $2 million he’s on the hook for.”
Deal earned a relatively modest income over the past three decades — an average of $150,000 a year since 1981, according to tax documents he released in early September. Deal’s Democratic opponent, former Gov. Roy Barnes, has averaged about $1 million a year in income since 1984, his tax records show.
For Deal to repay the Wilder Outdoors loan, aides said, he has no choice but to sell his most valuable asset: his home in Gainesville.
Deal bought the property seven years ago for $430,000, according to public records. On 5 acres, it features a main house of about 4,000 square feet, a 1,900-square-foot guest house and a pool. Deal listed the property for sale about a year ago for $985,000, its assessed market value, but has not found a buyer.
He owes about $200,000 on the house, according to a financial disclosure he filed in May, so any sale would net substantially less than the asking price.
Deal also offered the Wilder Outdoors property, valued at about $700,000, for sale. The building sits empty, its parking lot secured by padlocked gates, its once-landscaped front entrance overrun by weeds. A large for-sale sign offers the property to passersby.
The only significant asset Deal plans to keep is a cabin in Habersham County, aides said. That property, too, is assessed at about $700,000; on the financial disclosure he filed in May, Deal said he owed $610,000 on the mortgage.
The disclosure listed Deal’s net worth as slightly less than $2.1 million, including retirement accounts.
Any way Deal tries to resolve the outstanding loan carries negative political or financial consequences. Howard Rothbloom, a bankruptcy lawyer in Marietta, said in an interview he would advise Deal to sell his home and the commercial property, give the bank the proceeds and then ask the lender to write off the balance.
A South Carolina bank, SCBT, acquired Community Bank’s assets and deposits when the latter failed in January. As part of that deal, the FDIC agreed to share losses with SCBT on some of Community’s old loans. That arrangement — in essence, government help in paying off the debt — could work to Deal’s advantage, Rothbloom said.
“Everything is negotiable,” he said. “He could settle with the bank — pay them less than the full amount due in satisfaction of the debt. It’s not unusual.”
Think B4 U Vote
October 27th, 2010
8:29 am
In my circle of friends who are politically active, none are voting for Deal or Barnes. They have been persuaded that to do so means in 2014 we will endure the same thing yet again.
You never punish a party by voting for the lesser of two evils.
You punish them by making them work harder in the future. The only way to do that is to vote for Monds.
Dose of Reality
October 27th, 2010
8:33 am
ROBOCOP:
I don’t know about Billy Bob, but td just makes the crap up as he goes. Forget facts, forget logic, forget ethics, td just flaps those lips and says whatever he thinks, without ever backing up a statement with facts.
Example of how td becametotal dumba**:” How long is it going to take our children and grand children to pay off the debt Obama has run up in the last two years? We can not afford any more spending like this”.
The fact is 60% of the national debt created over the past 10 years is from the BUSH TAX CUTS. Another 20% is the BUSH WARS. Only the other 20% is from the stimulus and bailouts. See, it’s stupid statements like that from td that cause him to have his name changed.
Dawg310
October 27th, 2010
8:40 am
I think there should be a limit on how much a person can post. Good grief!
Mike
October 27th, 2010
8:56 am
Oh good, another several weeks of those lame political TV ads for a runoff. Please, put us out of our misery. Let’s just elect one of the stooges & move on.
ROBOCOP
October 27th, 2010
8:58 am
Dose of Reality
You’ve got that right.
What a Deal
October 27th, 2010
9:01 am
I wonder if Shady Deal is friends with Charles Bannister and Kevin Kenerly …. They all have a common answer to every thing ….. “I’ve done nothing wrong” they just never complete the sentence …. except take bribes and payoffs, use my political connections for the betterment of me, my family and close friends, at the expense of honest Georgians and constituents who refuse to pay me for favors and those who I don”t like.
VOTE NEXT TUESDAY ……… NO DEAL FOR GEORGIA
Janice
October 27th, 2010
9:08 am
Its amazing Deal is still ahead. He is very lucky because of the anti-Obama sentiment at this time because lets be honest Deal is unfit to be governor or for that matter to run abything to do with finances.
Shame people blinded by hate for Obama can’t see that at a state level Barnes is a better choice.
Last Man Standing
October 27th, 2010
9:08 am
Dawg310:
Most of the time when you see these very lng posts, it is either a newspaper article (everyone has already read) or a compilation of material that the poster has previously posted. It doesn’t say much for original thought . . .
Last Man Standing
October 27th, 2010
9:09 am
typo “lng” should be “long” – sorry!
CourtneyF
October 27th, 2010
9:10 am
I just want one of these political guys to pay me up ‘dat 50 they owe me 4 the body shampoo………and “Corrupt Deal Real Steal,” I wants u 2 right my next paper….
Sandra
October 27th, 2010
9:13 am
For ANY of you voting for Nathan Deal, please do not ever say one single word about ethics, integrity, or any of those other ‘values’ that you so like to through in everyone’s faces. For anyone who listens to something other than Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, you would know that there are more Republicans who preach ‘values’ but certainly fail to live up to them. (I guess it’s the old adage of ‘do what I say versus do what I do’. Newt Gringrich is a prime example of that one!)
At any rate, you will have absolutely no standing to critizise any politician. People like you absolutely disgust me. One thing for sure, old Nathan may be broke now, but if he gets elected you can be sure he won’t be when he comes out of office. Leopards don’t change their spots. It makes me sick that Georgians will continue to suffer for their arrogance and general adversion to facts unless Fox, Limbaugh, or Neil Boortz tells them what to think.
Last Man Standing
October 27th, 2010
9:15 am
Janice:
“Shame people blinded by hate for Obama can’t see that at a state level Barnes is a better choice.”
I know that the “hate for Obama” comes from some sort of handbook for democrats/liberals, and I know that most of the people who resort to that line don’t even believe it themselves. It is possible to hate the politics of a man without hating him, and that primarily is the case of the millions of people who want to see him and those who think like him removed from office.
Last Man Standing
October 27th, 2010
9:20 am
Sandra:
I’m a Fox News watching, Limbaugh listening, Gingrich supporting Republican who has already cast his vote for Nathan Deal. Now, you can Deal with it . . .
Dose of Reality
October 27th, 2010
9:56 am
Last Man Standing:
You are the perfect example of whats wrong with this country. People like yourself have become so fat and lazy, that they have to rely on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck and others to do your thinking for you. You have become unable to generate an original thought on your own. Let me guess, you are a white male, over the age of 55, doesn’t have a black friend, hates hispanics except for your yardman, believes in the Klan but are too afraid to actually join up, don’t have a college degree, and think Ronald Regan was the second coming of Christ. You believe Obama is a foreign agent sent here to overthrow America, and that commies, muslims, and Democrats are the greatest threat to freedom. You thrive on the politics of fear. You want America to be the America of the 1950’s, where blacks rode on the back of the bus and women stayed in the kitchen. Sound pretty close?
Extreme conservatives are just as scary as extreme liberals. Its time to take a deep breath and stop all of this madness. Its time that people like you begin to USE YOUR OWN BRAIN. It’s not hard to see who is best for our state. If someone asked you 2 years ago to pick Georgia’s next Governor based solely on their qualifications and past track record, and the names on the resumes were left blank, do you really think anybody would pick Nathan Deal? Be honest.
You start out with the premise that since everybody hates Obama and he is a Democrat, then EVERY Democrats must be bad. That premise has left you unable to make a logical decision. Your brain has been taken over by the right-wing wing-nuts and you have become just another one of their mindless robots. And that should scare the hell out of everyone!
RGB
October 27th, 2010
10:08 am
[small] Dose of Reality,
You seem angry.
And you stereotype people. I thought you people didn’t believe in that.
Would love to talk with you about your prescriptions to heal our economy and our country, but based on your writings, you hold nothing but hatred for people who aren’t just like you.
I too listen to Limbaugh, like Newt’s ideas, don’t care for Beck or Palin personally but like their ideas. I read the Wall Street Journal, have formal education in business, a lot of work experience, and am neither fat nor lazy.
Help us all out and tell us how many friends of what color we should have in order to pass the lib respectability test. Also, tell us what specific organizations we should and should not belong to while you’re at it.
Oh, and remember it was president Obama (I believe he’s a Democrat) who told conservatives to get on the back of the bus (or car. He uses lots of vehicle analogies these days.). He did it just this week in an effort to not have “a black America or white America–but a United States of America.”
td
October 27th, 2010
10:21 am
DOR, I have tried to respond a couple of times to you and your anger but Galloway thinks it is acceptable for you to call names but unacceptable for me to call your mental capacity up for question. So I guess you can continue with the name calling for a while longer.
The only truth you need to know is that Deal and all the other republicans are going to win next Tuesday. Tell me now how these facts are wrong?
gm
October 27th, 2010
10:35 am
Trust me those polls are wrong, I waited in line for 2 hours in a Dem district, there were young, old, black, white, muslims, gays casting their vote for Barnes, this is what America looks like, not like those white klansman looking tea party people we see on TV.
Thanks Tea Party people with your uneducated racist people we see in these debates on tv, we are comming out in large numbers.
Last Man Standing
October 27th, 2010
10:40 am
Dose of Reality:
“Let me guess”
That is exactly what you did . . . and you are exactly wrong. I will concede one point to you: No, I did not think that President Reagan was the “second coming of Christ”, but I do think that he was the best president of my lifetime.
No one does my thinking for me. I listen to Limbaugh and agree with much of what he has to say. Dems/libs hate him so much that he must be right. I watched every “news” channel go in the tank for Obama and I decided that they were not worth my time.
And you? I would guess that you are now or have in the past sought the help of a psychologist, your favorite news program is “The View” or “Entertainment Tonight” and you still have a slight problem with bed-wetting.
I am a Fox news watching, Limbaugh listening, Gingrich supporting Republican. You will just have to Deal with it.
Alex
October 27th, 2010
10:45 am
Only in Georgia is a crook like Deal leading the race for governor.
You know what the problems is, Georgia (from an ex-Georgian)? You all have no choices. None of those 3 choices are decent choices. Deal is ONLY RUNNING SO HE DIDN’T GET INVESTIGATED, Barnes doesn’t have the best record and who is Mounds? Plus you white Georgians would never vote for a black man for governor anyway. You guys are in the same position that California is in. It seems like whoever you chose, the state will still suck for 4 to 8 years. Georgia’s best hope was Poythress, but he didn’t mount much of a campaign.
I’m hoping that the weather is nice on election day so the blacks will vote. They will carry Barnes over the top. If anyone has been watching elections in Georgia over the last 30 years or so, you would have noticed that when the weather is bad, blacks don’t vote and Democrats lose. So I’m hoping for a bright and sunny Nov. 2 so someone can stave off the looming and impending disaster that is Nathan Deal. That guy even looks like a crook. It’s amazing how many of you all don’t see the damage done by one ignoramus (Sonny Per-doo-doo) and you’re willing to drink the same poisoned Kool-Aid. You think like in Georgia sucks now, just you wait until you get a governor that belongs to a party that only cares about big business and money. The choice is yours, Georgia. Don’t screw it up.
RGB
October 27th, 2010
10:49 am
“….there were….gays casting their vote for Barnes….”
My goodness, how could you tell? Did you ask people their sexual orientation while you were waiting in line? Did you look over their shoulder to see for whom they voted?
Conservatives don’t do that sort of thing. And we don’t separate people into buckets.
Alex
October 27th, 2010
10:51 am
And for all you Deal-does, here is his voting record:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26824
And in my last post, it should be “…problem is…” I know I’m from Georgia, but I do have an education.
RGB
October 27th, 2010
10:51 am
“I’m hoping that the weather is nice on election day so the blacks will vote. “
You libs are on a roll. Stereotyping people faster than I can type.
Keep it up. It amuses me.
Dose of Reality
October 27th, 2010
10:52 am
RGB:
Show me any anger in my post. It’s just the facts about the extreme right wingers who can’t think for themselves. I’m not angry, I just feel sorry for people who have let their brains be taken over by the wing-nuts.
td:
Me angry? Aren’t you the guy who called me out and wants to meet me in person and see if I will call you a total dumba** to your face? You are consumed with anger, willing to overlook Deal’s ethical and financial problems simply because you two have so much in common. You spend about 20 hours a day blogging about all of your hate filled non-sense, and never backing a thing up with facts. Just like your Obama national debt lie when the facts are it was Bush who generated 80% of the debt.
Remember 2002 and all of the polls? Barnes had a 7-10% lead during the final days and it was increasing, yet he lost to a complete loser. You probably should do some fasting next Monday because you are going to have a huge plate of crow to eat. Now lie down and breathe slowly.
Alex
October 27th, 2010
10:56 am
RGB: It’s not a stereotype when it’s true. “All white Republicans are lying racist hypocrites” is a stereotype, although I think it’s true. Most of them are, all of them aren’t.