Your morning jolt: White House wants no talk of Joe Biden-for-Hillary Clinton swap in ‘12

The White House is out to kill talk that President Barack Obama might swap out Vice President Joe Biden for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2012.

From the Washington Post:

“There’s absolutely nothing to it,” senior adviser David Axelrod said Tuesday night. “The president is blessed to have a spectacular vice president and an outstanding secretary of state. They’re both doing great work, and he wants to keep them on the job.”

Advisers to Clinton said the same, and another Obama adviser called the idea “nuts.”

Where, then, is this fantastical rumor coming from?

A student of the Obama-Clinton relationship could trace its roots to the summer of 2008, when Clinton supporters lobbied for Obama to pick her as his running mate and he, after considering it, declined. Then, after he chose her to be secretary of state, people in her orbit started musing aloud that she could shift into a different role down the line, although Clinton never went near that idea.

But it wasn’t until this past summer that the Clinton-Biden swap narrative started to fully swirl. As Obama’s approval ratings sank, a variety of luminaries started promoting the idea of the ultimate “staff shakeup,” in some cases claiming to have inside knowledge that it was being discussed.

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Ken Hodges, the Democratic candidate for attorney general, on Tuesday made another trip to the steps of the state Capitol, this time to celebrate his endorsement by the 5,000-member Police Benevolent Association of Georgia.

Last month, Hodges was in the same spot, showing off support from 94 of 159 sheriffs across the state, including many Republicans.

Outside the contest for governor, the race between Hodges and Republican Sam Olens may be the one to watch. A former Dougherty County prosecutor, Hodges has been the most aggressive of downballot Democrats in his pursuit of GOP support. The money race between Hodges and Olens is likely to be even.

Hodges’ rhetoric has been sharp as well. On Tuesday, the Democrat said Olens’ insistence on making a court fight against President Barack Obama’s health reform legislation amounted to “pandering” – since the legal battle was already underway, at no cost to the state.

Olens, meanwhile, is likewise out to undercut Hodges’ base. Spokesman Heath Garrett confirmed that Olens has had conversations with Columbus-area members of the NAACP, who are still angry over Hodges handling of the 2003 killing of Kenneth Walker, an African-American shot by a law enforcement officer.

“Sam has an open-door relationship with the NAACP that’s unique with Republican candidates,” Garrett said. However, some differences won’t be bridgeable, he admits. Olens favors the state’s voter ID law, and has endorsed an end to restrictions imposed by the Voting Rights Act.

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Another element certain to enter the race for attorney general: An Albany accountant has petitioned Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, asking the high court to overturn an 11th Circuit Court of Appeal – which determined that Hodges and other prosecutors enjoyed absolute immunity “for damages caused by constitutional violations grounded in knowingly false testimony to a grand jury.”

See the document here.

The action stems from Hodges’ initiation of a criminal case against a local surgeon and Rehberg, his accountant, for anonymous criticism of the hospital’s financial policies.

Garrett confirmed that the case would become a part of campaign discourse.

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Sunday’s series of debates hosted by the Atlanta Press Club and Georgia Public Broadcasting will have at least one empty chair. From the Savannah Morning News:

Citing a “family commitment,” Democratic U.S. Rep. John Barrow is skipping Sunday’s televised debate with Republican Ray McKinney….

It will be the second debate the Savannah lawmaker has passed over this year; he missed one with his primary opponent, Regina Thomas.

Barrow spokeswoman Jane Brodsky wouldn’t describe the family event other than to say it’s “something he has to attend.”

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In July, House Minority Leader John Boehner privately advised a few male Republican colleagues that they should avoid being seen drunk and partying with female lobbyists while in Washington.

Which sounds like good advice. But The Hill newspaper in D.C. reports that female lobbyists are saying that overcautious members of Congress are cutting off all contact with them. Anywhere, at any time.

Two Georgia congressmen were included in the discussion:

Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) said he errs on the side of caution and is careful about meeting alone with women. The approach doesn’t affect the way he does business in the least, he said, noting that he has more female legislative assistants than males.

“I usually just ride my bike home and work at nights,” he said. “I don’t do a lot of going out at night with anyone.”

Other members don’t adhere to a formal policy, though they say they do their best to avoid anything that could be misinterpreted as inappropriate.

Rep. Tom Price (Ga.), chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee, said temptation will always be present in different forms on Capitol Hill, but how you handle it is a matter of character.

“These issues get to the character of the individual — one should always conduct oneself in a manner that is beyond reproach,” he said.

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Somehow, we missed last week’s announcement by Virginia Gov. Robert McDonnell, a Republican, that he will end the tradition of declaring April as “Confederate History Month.”

Instead, he’ll rename it “Civil War in Virginia Month.” The decision comes several months after McDonnell was forced to apologize for neglecting any mention of slavery in this year’s declaration.

From the Washington Post:

Speaking at a scholarly conference about slavery hosted as part of Virginia’s commemoration of the 150th anniversary of the Civil War at Norfolk State University, McDonnell called this year’s proclamation an “error of haste, not heart.”

“My major and unacceptable omission of slavery disappointed and hurt a lot of people–myself included,” he said.

…[I]n brief remarks at Friday’s conference, McDonnell promised next year he will go [further], pledging to issue no proclamation honoring Confederate history, but rather one that acknowledges the broader sweep of the war in Virginia.

“One hundred and fifty years is long enough for Virginia to fight the Civil War,” he told the 1,600 attendees of the conference on “Race, Slavery and Civil War: The Tough Stuff of American History and Memory.”

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48 comments Add your comment

Ric

October 6th, 2010
9:21 am

If there is a VP swap in 2012, it’ll be Kathleen Sebelius, not Clinton.

Retired Soldier

October 6th, 2010
9:30 am

I would suggest to the President he replace Biden wirh…..None of the Above. Have a great day!

The General

October 6th, 2010
9:45 am

He’ll replace Biden with Clinton for two reasons:

1) He needs her to revive interest in him for the 2012 election. This move will get him lots of press.

2) It gives Hillary a leg-up when she again runs for prez in 2016.

Last Man Standing

October 6th, 2010
9:51 am

It simply just doesn’t matter: Obama will be shown the door in 2012.

Devildog

October 6th, 2010
10:07 am

Biden as SECSTATE? OMG!!!!! Make it a reality series and it’d blow through the top of the ratings. Couldn’t make it a weekly show, though, because he’ll have his foot in his mouth on a daily basis. I’d rather have the world hate us than make us a laughingstock with Biden. Amend that to make us MORE of a laughingstock.
Fortunately, I think Last Man Standing is dead on target.

No matter

October 6th, 2010
10:08 am

Biden’s a lightweight, along for the ride, but he’s a walking gaffe machine, like dan quayle used to be.

Skip

October 6th, 2010
10:11 am

Last man, by who?

td

October 6th, 2010
10:27 am

Skip

October 6th, 2010
10:11 am
Last man, by who?

By the same silent majority that is going to boot out 50+ members of the House of Reps on Nov 2nd.

Last Man Standing

October 6th, 2010
10:35 am

Skip:

By any living, breathing body who opposes him.

Devildog:

This administration has already cornered the market on “laughingstock”. I’ll give you that Biden could only worsen the situation, though.

Last Man Standing

October 6th, 2010
10:43 am

“Somehow, we missed last week’s announcement by Virginia Gov. Robert McDonnell, a Republican, that he will end the tradition of declaring April as “Confederate History Month.”

A Republican is doing this? We all know that Republicans beat their wives, terrorize their children, kick dogs and are racists. Since blacks as a voting block historically always support Republicans, I just can’t figure out why he would be doing this?

The Centrist

October 6th, 2010
10:45 am

What does Future Speaker Boehner mean by AVOID being seen drunk and partying with female lobbyists while in Washington? Does he mean that GOPers should do it privately while in DC? Or, does he mean that GOPers should do it publicly anywhere else?

td

October 6th, 2010
11:01 am

The Centrist

October 6th, 2010
10:45 am
What does Future Speaker Boehner mean by AVOID being seen drunk and partying with female lobbyists while in Washington? Does he mean that GOPers should do it privately while in DC? Or, does he mean that GOPers should do it publicly anywhere else?

I am pretty sure he means that the Democrats can not run on their policies and philosophy this year so they are going to try to create negative issues to run on and the congressman’s personal behavior is just right up the ally for the Dems and their willing accomplices in the media to try to exploit.

Bill

October 6th, 2010
11:02 am

Last Man: McDonnell was the first VA Governor in 8 years to declare Confederate History Month this past April. (The last VA Governor to declare it also was a Republican.) The declaration created such an uproar that he indicated last week he wouldn’t do it again and instead would declare a Civil War in Virginia History Month.

The Centrist

October 6th, 2010
11:05 am

Last Man Standing. Do you mean by laughing stock that somebody has beaten an administration that included but is not limited to, Alberto “I can’t remember” Gonzales? Or, Paul “helping a girlfriend get transferred to a high-paying job at the State Department” Wolfowitz? Or, Dept. of Ed. Matteo “I own stock in a student loan company” Fontana? Or, Fish and Wildlife Julie “I don’t know much about biology” MacDonald? Or, Scooter “I outed a CIA agent and lied about it” Libby? Or, J. Steven “Abramoff influence-peddling obstructionist” Griles? Or, Claude “I love Target” Allen?

Yeah Right

October 6th, 2010
11:12 am

I’m thinking that the only ticket that will come out for 2012 that contains the names Obama and Clinton will be Clinton – Obama. Bill would never let Hillary run for VP. … Remember Obama stole her Presidency in 2008 …….. Obama and Biden are nothing more than a remake of Dumb and Dumber. Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton would be like Scary Movie ……..

EJ

October 6th, 2010
11:13 am

He couldn’t get elected again if he had cloned himself and ran on an Obama-Obama ticket.

Bill

October 6th, 2010
11:23 am

I’m appalled by the disrespect being shown to our President and Vice President. It is especially unpatriotic at a time when our sons and dauughters are at war. May God forgive you.

td

October 6th, 2010
11:28 am

Bill

October 6th, 2010
11:23 am
I’m appalled by the disrespect being shown to our President and Vice President. It is especially unpatriotic at a time when our sons and dauughters are at war. May God forgive you.

Bill, were you standing up and saying the same things when the libs across this nation were calling Bush a criminal and worse?

Bill

October 6th, 2010
11:35 am

Nope but this was the conservative response to criticism of President Bush. In both cases, I would prefer a discussion of policy to taunting and name-calling.

Sarah

October 6th, 2010
11:53 am

I can only hope that isn’t a decision that has to be made in 2012 because Obama never should have been elected.
Honestly, I don’t see how people find a statement like that unpatriotic. I love my country and 3 of my siblings have been deployed and 2 still are. I find, however, that Obama is unhealthy for my country and should not be president because he is hurting this great nation, Clinton is terrible too. It is not unpatriotic to express displeasure of a person who is harming America.

Eric

October 6th, 2010
12:03 pm

Calling Barry Obama “President” is like calling Barry Bonds the “home run king”..
How about we stick with “The idiot in charge”

jo

October 6th, 2010
12:32 pm

I find it laughable that those liberals that still support this clown we call a president have the gall to continue to blame the policies of GWB for all our troubles. Let me ask you a question…without using the words religious right or unions, name me ONE policy Obama has differed on from GWB? Bailouts…check. Stimulus packages…check. Deficit spending…check. Troop surges…check. Same Iraq withdrawl policy…check. If GWB was a rotten president, which he was, how does defending Obama make any sense for you. I’m just glad I wasnt one who was duped by all the hopey changey talk. Give us a moderate centrist that governs based on what is good for America, not the religious right or the unions.

CEB

October 6th, 2010
12:38 pm

Wow…I can’t wait until the Repubs regain control so I can see and feel the affect of all of the changes they are going to make in the size and reach of government. How long should we wait to see the remarkable changes…6 months, 12 months, 24 months?

It’s time to give true libertarians/independents a chance.

cs

October 6th, 2010
12:39 pm

I hope Virginia doesnt have a Blsck History Month. Afterall, its hurtful to non blacks and the history of the world is long enough to pamper to diaper wearers and whiners.

Betsy

October 6th, 2010
12:44 pm

A disaster waiting to happen. Biden as Secretary of State? He’s bad enough in the do-nothing job of VP. And Clinton as VP? I doubt Obama would go for it; she’s too strong a personality. And I doubt she would go for it unless there is a party promise of a 2016 presidential run.

ShadeTree Mech

October 6th, 2010
12:49 pm

Hillary for President 2016 … Wouldn’t she be like 80???

Susan McGuire

October 6th, 2010
1:05 pm

If Hillary’s on the ticket, it’s the worst thing that could happen for us. She’s a liberal version of Sarah Palin…excites a lot of our hard-core supporters, but they’re going to vote Democratic anyway. And she brings WAY too much baggage, and repulses the great majority of the independent voters who pretty much decide elections nowadays.

Matti Lee

October 6th, 2010
1:21 pm

Another Rovian rumor to distract people from the real issues of the elections being held this November. “OH NO! PANIC! SCANDAL! LET’S TALK ABOUT HILLARY!” WhatEVS!

wisconsin

October 6th, 2010
1:25 pm

ALL YOUR COMMENTS ARE STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST LIKE YOU ALL ARE!!!! IT WAS GWB WHO MESSED UP THIS COUNTRY PRESIDENT OBAMA IS TAKING ALL THE HEAT THAT GWB MESSED UP IN THE EIGHT YEARS HE WAS PRESIDENT HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT THE PRESIDENT TO FIX EIGHT YEARS OF MESS IN 2 YEARS!!!!!!

Who Cares?

October 6th, 2010
1:43 pm

Like swapping one babbling idiot for another is going to matter? Hillary, Biden,…Hillary, Biden.

indigo

October 6th, 2010
2:03 pm

I dare say all of those here who disparage Joe Biden never read the oped piece in the New York Times he coauthored about Iraq about 5 years ago: a very reasoned analysis that stated the best we could hope for was a confederation made up of states controlled by the respective majorities in each area: the Kurds, the Shiites, and the Sunnis, with a modest national government. We can wish all we want to, but, in the final analysis, he will be proven right. Tell me one specific thing he has done as VP in the foreign policy area that you find so bad, rather than spewing out a general disparagement.

Orlando

October 6th, 2010
2:06 pm

Hey all you idiots bashing the President, why dont you move to another country?

jo

October 6th, 2010
2:15 pm

Also, its funny how people make comments like “all you idiots who bash our president should move to another country” or “I’m appalled by the disrespect being shown to our President and Vice President.”, yet these were probably the same people that wanted to try Bush/Cheney for war crimes, burned effigies of them, and put them on signs comparing them to hitler. Hypocrisy and idiocy never cease to amaze me.

For the love of country, get educated!

October 6th, 2010
2:32 pm

Listen, folks, I’m tired of hearing the Bush-Obama bashing on BOTH sides. And let’s not be childish to say that folks should move to another country, Orlando.

For the ill-advised, please be aware that one single person cannot and DOES NOT run this country. The game of politics is quite dirty. People run for office on idealism; however, ONCE THEY GET THE JOB, they see how the job is NOT as they thought. They have to face media scrutiny, sleepless nights, all sorts of formal protocol, etc. Back room deals will be cut on ALL sides. Promises will fade and disappear. Again, it is not ONE MAN that runs the show. Has no one studied American Government? That is why we have what’s called the BALANCE OF POWER. Google it.

Every president is a human being just like the rest of us. His job is 24/7, 365. I’m sure it’s a job that not many of YOU would want. Criticize the POLICIES if you want, but remember that the policies are NEVER created, enacted, or enforced by ONE MAN.

Seriously

October 6th, 2010
2:54 pm

Galloway, this is pathetic. Now you’re spreading unsubstantiated rumors.

That shows you as a true gossip writer, not a real writer.

Shame on you.

Coeky Kell

October 6th, 2010
3:00 pm

BHO running in 2012? Thought he would have gotten the message by now. Any ‘change” in 2010 will be him going out the door and back to organizing communities.

BOYCOTT BP

October 6th, 2010
3:17 pm

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BOYCOTT BP

October 6th, 2010
3:30 pm

Secretary of State Clinton will be a terrific candidate for president, however, she should remember what happened to Hubert Humphrey as President Johnson’s VP. The American electorate never took Humphrey seriously because he could not escape Johnson’s continuation of the Vietnam War. Humphrey was a wonderful alternative to McCarthy but had credibility issues because he could not speak out against Johnson while serving as Johnson’s VP. His problems continued as a candidate for the Democratic nomination because of his association with President Johnson.

Hilary should free herself of Obama so that she could be an independent voice rather than having to support Obama’s problem filled presidency. If she runs, she will be hammered by President Obama’s issues. Better to be free of that baggage. Remember Hubert Humphrey’s dilemna…

Jayde

October 6th, 2010
3:30 pm

wisconsin

October 6th, 2010
1:25 pm
ALL YOUR COMMENTS ARE STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST LIKE YOU ALL ARE!!!! IT WAS GWB WHO MESSED UP THIS COUNTRY PRESIDENT OBAMA IS TAKING ALL THE HEAT THAT GWB MESSED UP IN THE EIGHT YEARS HE WAS PRESIDENT HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT THE PRESIDENT TO FIX EIGHT YEARS OF MESS IN 2 YEARS!!!!!!

wisconsin,

AGREED! Give it a break!! He was voted in, so give him a chance to fix the mess he walked in to at the start. It’s not easy fixing something so drastic.

Mayo

October 6th, 2010
3:50 pm

Just my .02 but though 1600 Penn. Ave. may vehemently deny it, this could be the one move that would save Obama’s chances in ‘12 (and it is FAR from secure as we speak). HRC adds quite a bit of that old “gravitas” to a ticket in DIRE need of it. “Joe-the-plagiarist” was–and is a joke of monumental proportions; good for gaffes by the gross and his commander-in-chief needs much more propping than Ol’ Joe could ever give. With HRC on the ticket, BHO’s a likely repeater. Without her and worse, keeping JB, he’s toast.
If/when the GOP takes either (or more unlikely both) chamber(s), the POTUS still has a shot at winning ‘12 and being another WJC–and BHO is no dummy. Watching all this is too fun.

And to those who think W caused “all of this mess,” to go back and take Civics I. Take a gander at who handles the purse strings of the Fed. Gov’t….(e.g. Freddie and Fannie have MUCH to do with where we are).

Sick of Dems

October 6th, 2010
3:58 pm

It’s amazing how many kool aid drinking libs that there are that still believe that Obama inherited this recession when his 2 year debt is more than 8 years of Bush combined. And by the way the Obama White House said the recession ended in July 2009 if that’s the case then he should be taking responsibility for everything that has gone wrong since then.

RIGHTISWRONG!..AGAIN...

October 6th, 2010
4:23 pm

Obama will win in 2012, Roy will win in a month.

The polls are wrong, everybody can’t be stupid enough to vote GOP.

The economy WILL continue to get better and in my personal poll and in talking
to many folks, Roy will be back in. Regardless of all of you guys hollering about
tax cuts (that won’t create jobs do your research), no Obamacare (it is a mandate like car insurance and homeowners insurance, folks need it and will now get it), the majority of the voters on the fence don’t want the crooks and no-educated idiots that the GOP and Tea Party keep putting front &
center. You guys are splitting your votes and 95% of minorities and gays will vote for anybody
that is not in the GOP or Tea Party. Why because you have demonstrated that you only care for
White people. How stupid can you be. You will only win in White Areas! Luckily for the majority of
Americans, our surrounding demographic is diverse. You guys need to go live on an island together,
bored, stale, smelling of wet dog, and multiple trailers! Kuntry @zzes…….

What did you say?

October 6th, 2010
4:27 pm

Jayde/Wisconsin, not be be rude, but please take a course in American government or politics. It is the ignorant that believe as you do. A single person did not create the mess and a single person cannot get us out of it. America is not a dictatorship.

RIGHTISWRONG!..AGAIN...

October 6th, 2010
4:40 pm

SICK OF DEMS “It’s amazing how many kool aid drinking libs that there are that still believe that Obama inherited this recession when his 2 year debt is more than 8 years of Bush combined. And by the way the Obama White House said the recession ended in July 2009 if that’s the case then he should be taking responsibility for everything that has gone wrong since then.”

Oh, you must watch Faux Newz and can’t think for yourself either. LOL
Obama HAS spent more than Bush because of BUSH you idiot! He came into offic with our
economy about to drive us into a major DEPRESSION. So he did what SMART leaders do, he convened a group of non-partisan (that means folks from the Dems and Repubs) economists and his
own financial team that ALL agreed that we had to BAILOUT Wall Street and put money into the economy (Stimulus) to avoid the country going into a DEPRESSION.
If BUSH hadn’t spent away our SURPLUS and had found a way to pay for his War of Choice (IRAQ), then Pres. Obama would not have had to spend a dime. We would STILL HAVE A SUPLUS! Obama only needs another year or so for things to continue to get better. The GOP/ Tea Party running ANYTHING (let alone the US Govt) is like letting Stevie Wonder fly a 747.
Not gonna happen again anytime soon, but you guys are fun to watch…..just to stupid to lead…..

FarmerRob

October 6th, 2010
11:31 pm

If he puts Hillary one heart beat away from the oval office he is far dumber than I ever thought. And frankly, I don’t have that high of an opinion of him to start with.

Rat Brown

October 6th, 2010
11:34 pm

It doesn’t matter…Obama is going to be a one term Jive turkey!

red hill

October 7th, 2010
12:32 am

Obama will be one and done in 2 years regardless of his running mate and Nathan Deal will be governor. If Georgians are finally outnumbered by Atlantans and Roy Barnes is voted in again, God help us all.

Shannon

October 7th, 2010
8:00 am

@Centrist–in listing Republican laughingstocks too quickly forgotten, you left out Michael “Heckuva job, Brownie!” Brown!