Roy Barnes won’t return Bishop Eddie Long’s check

Democratic nominee for governor Roy Barnes says he won’t return the $5,000 contributed to his campaign by Bishop Eddie Long of New Missionary Baptist Church.

From Lori Geary and Channel 2 Action News:

“The allegations are troubling but there’s not been one deposition taken, not one thing. Let’s let the legal process work,” said Barnes.

Last week Barnes canceled a scheduled fundraiser with Long. Barnes told Geary the decision was mutual.

“I haven’t talked to him. I sent messages back and forth. Of course we knew the press would be there and we didn’t want to take away from our fundraiser. In any regard, we just thought it was appropriate. It was jointly reached by staff,” said Barnes.

Barnes is not the only candidate to receive money from Long. State and federal campaign records show a long list including Michael Thurmond, Hillary Clinton, Thurbert Baker, Mark Taylor, Maxine Waters and Max Cleland.

The $5,000 contribution from Long to Barnes was made on June 28, for the July 20 primary.

Here’s the latest on the Long saga from ajc.com:

espite the personal intervention of Bishop Eddie Long, the DeKalb County district attorney will proceed with a case against two men accused of breaking into Long’s office at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, the chief assistant DA said Monday.

Four young men filed suit against Long and his church last week. One of them, Maurice Robinson, has been charged with the burglary of Long’s office.

Last month, Long visited former District Attorney Gwen Keyes-Fleming and asked her to drop the charges, Chief Assistant District Attorney Don Geary said….

The four lawsuits, which were all filed last week in DeKalb County State Court, all claim Long, in his role as a church leader, coerced the young men into sexual relationships. The suits allege that Long took the men on lavish trips and bought them gifts.

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30 comments Add your comment

AngryVoter

September 28th, 2010
12:01 pm

I actually agree with Barnes on this.

What, supposedly, has Eddie Long done that’s a crime? Cheated on his wife? Done the nasty with men? Done the nasty with legal adults? Taken gross pictures of himself fully clothed? Send the pictures over his phone? None of these things are crimes.

Even if he used his personal money to pay for expenses for these young adults, I’m not sure it rises to a crime.

Grow up people. Stop trying to make these things salacious. Atty Bernstein, who did a remarkable job in the GWilson case, is trying to extort money from Long. It’s that simple. She and her clients are the ones who are tryiing to wrongly make a buck here by spreading around a lot of stink and trying to call it an event that entitles them to a payout.

These young men could have walked anytime they wanted. They were not children. They were willing participants in anything that happened who are now looking for cash.

If political candidates had to return donations from everyone who cheated on a spouse, sent pictures via a cell phone or Internet, slept with someone of the same gender, slept with an eighteen year old or took a non-family member on a trip, there would be no money left in any campaign funds.

When Hell Freezes Over

September 28th, 2010
12:20 pm

““The allegations are troubling but there’s not been one deposition taken, not one thing. Let’s let the legal process work,” said Barnes.”

Is Roy talking about Long . . . or Deal? It would seem that the same is true with Deal: no depositions taken, not one thing. Deal has not been indicted, arrested or tried for anything. Maybe Deal should have contributed to Barnes’ campaign? Would that have spared him from all the negative attacks that have been fired at him? I doubt it because democraps have one set of rules for themselves and another set for everyone else.

C’mon, Roy, let’s hear the same said by you for your opponent!

ByteMe

September 28th, 2010
12:22 pm

If political candidates had to return donations from everyone who cheated on a spouse, sent pictures via a cell phone or Internet, slept with someone of the same gender, slept with an eighteen year old or took a non-family member on a trip, there would be no money left in any campaign funds.

Nah, it would just mean that our candidates would be even more owned by their corporate masters.

findog

September 28th, 2010
12:24 pm

seperation of church and state was before politics became the go between

ByteMe

September 28th, 2010
12:26 pm

Hey, Hell, your analogy doesn’t work. Deal is the one who had the sweetheart deal with the state he was trying to salvage (pun intended) with the help of his taxpayer-funded Washington staff, Deal is the one who hid that he owed $2.8 million on a loan, Deal is the one who might have to declare bankruptcy because he’s technically insolvent (regardless of the accounting valuation of the assets, if you can’t sell them, they’re worth $0). Roy is not being accused of anything, except for taking legal campaign money from an morally dubious preacher.

To make it even, let’s look into the backgrounds of all the morally dubious preachers sending money to Deal. :)

JDW

September 28th, 2010
12:26 pm

Freezes, I don’t think Barnes or anyone else has said anything different than let the legal system work for Deal.

In fact I urge you and everyone else to treat Deal and Long exactly the same at the ballot box.

Neither is worthy of a vote.

findog

September 28th, 2010
12:31 pm

WHFO
Democraps?
Is the former governor running anything that rates a “pants on fire” or just advertising a perceived weakness of his opponent?

When Hell Freezes Over

September 28th, 2010
12:40 pm

ByteMe:

The facts remain the same.

Has Deal been idicted – for anything?
Has Deal Been arrested – for anything?
Has Deal been convicted – of anything?

I think the analogy does work. You may refuse to admit it – but that is your choice.

YourDaddyWasRight

September 28th, 2010
12:43 pm

—————Hey, Jim Galloway, have your folks look for the money he donated to George W. Bush and Sonny Perdue. You don’t think His Holiness the Bishop only made donations to Democrats, do you?

AngryVoter

September 28th, 2010
12:46 pm

YourDaddyWasRight – What difference does it make whether anyone, Rep or Dem, took a donation from Bishop Long? Please explain that to me. I’m having trouble seeing any problem. There is no crime here. Bishop Long is being sued in civil court by men who claim that he had relations with them so they are entitled to payment. (Isn’t that a hooker?)

YourDaddyWasRight

September 28th, 2010
12:51 pm

———— WHFO–No none of those things yet, but he has been investigated by the House and a U.S. Justice Department indictment is not far off…plus, if you’ve been paying attention to all his own personal admissions of wrong doing by not properly filing financial disclosure statements with either the feds or the state. If you’ve been paying attention at all these past 4 to 5 weeks, you’d have to be totally drugged not to know that Deal has played it fast and loose with his Republican Primary opponents about the truth behind his finances and his inability or unwillingness to be truthful and open. HE’S A CROOK AND ANY HALF-WIT WHO’S BEEN PAYING ATTENTION KNOWS IT. Go ask your Republican buddies if they’re happy with the candidate they’ve been given by the State GOP.

YourDaddyWasRight

September 28th, 2010
12:55 pm

—————AngryVoter—I agree with you. The basis of my comment was that he’s donated to a number of campaigns and to a number of political parties. The klist provided by Jim was a list of Democrats. Long catered to Republicans and others, as well. I think Barnes is under no obligation to return campaign money donated to his campaign by the Bishop.

AngryVoter

September 28th, 2010
12:57 pm

We all believe Deal is a crook. It’s just a question of how big a crook.

Despite this, and no matter how big a crook we later find Deal to be, most of us agree that he is still the better choice on the ballot this time around. Heck, even if we find out the Deal was writing checks to himself from government bank accounts, robbing banks, skimming from a church collection plate, running a subprime mortgage company, robbing lemonade stands at gunpoint and pushing little old ladies in front of cars, he would still be the better man running this time.

At least we wouldn’t be putting Deal into a job that he failed at once before. Electing a thief at least gives us a chance. Electing someone who has already proven he is incompetent pretty much guarantees us four years of decline. Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result. It would be insane to elect Barnes. Fortunately, most of the voters realize that. How the Dems missed that and nominated the guy is beyond us.

lmno

September 28th, 2010
1:12 pm

Whatever happened with the investigation from a few years ago that looked into Bishop Long and some other Nationally known mega-church pastor’s finances?

I remember an investigation, but seem to forget the result.

findog

September 28th, 2010
1:31 pm

Imno congress did one of those investigations into high profile mega churches for non-profit status
Not criminal, unless you consider congress’ involvement

lmno

September 28th, 2010
1:45 pm

So, what did they find? Anything? I know I could do my own research, Im just being lazy.

3 Arrows

September 28th, 2010
1:48 pm

When Hell Freezes Over

September 28th, 2010
12:40 pm
You must have missed this in the morning paper..

Deal financials are wrong AGAIN.. from the Augusta Paper.

ATLANTA – When Republican gubernatorial candidate Nathan Deal amended his campaign disclosure form last week, he added some business properties to his asset column and increased the value of another property – boosting his net worth.

Now, questions are being raised about whether the correct property values were used.

The head of the state Ethics Commission, Stacey Kalberman, said Monday that candidates are required to use the assessed value set by county tax officials. Deal’s camp used a higher appraised value.

Last week, Deal listed his half ownership in a Metter, Ga.-based property owned by his Gainesville auto salvage business at $300,000, saying the entire 37.7-acre property in Candler County was worth $600,000. But local tax records show the overall property was valued by county officials as about $304,000.

Deal also listed his half ownership on business property in Gainesville as worth about $2.5 million, with the entire property worth just over $5 million. Again, local tax records value it as almost half. They show the total value for the three parcels of property which make up the salvage site is $1.2 million.

On Monday, Deal’s campaign referred questions to Tifton, Ga.-based accountant, Jimmy Allen, who said he believes the higher values are correct.

“I’m going to stand by the way I filed the form at this point,” Allen said.

Emil Runge, a spokesman for Deal’s Democratic opponent Roy Barnes, said his candidate used the most recent local tax assessment to value his property on his disclosure.

The higher values have helped boost Deal’s net worth, which is listed in the latest form at $2.8 million despite facing questions about his financial solvency.

Deal’s campaign filed a revised form with state ethics officials on Thursday, the second time in a week they had changed the document which provides the public with a look at candidates’ liabilities and assets. The Deal campaign acknowledged mistakes in the earlier versions and suggested that after 18 years of filing federal disclosures when Deal was a congressman they were not used to the state requirements.

Deal’s finances have been under scrutiny for several weeks after word that he is facing a Feb. 1 deadline to repay a $2.3 million loan for a failed sporting goods venture launched by his daughter and son-in-law. He also failed to disclose $2.85 million in business loans on the initial form.

Allen has maintained

3 Arrows

September 28th, 2010
1:51 pm

“VOTE NONE OF THE ABOVE”…John Monds

North Avenue Ned

September 28th, 2010
2:05 pm

Barnes is right about the legal process, but he should return the monry anyway out of a sense of decency. Come on Governor, do the right thing.

ByteMe

September 28th, 2010
2:19 pm

Hey Hell, by your standard, folks like Glenn Richardson are worthy of your vote.

I think I’ll use my vote for someone more worthy.

AngryVoter

September 28th, 2010
2:30 pm

North Avenue Ned – what sort of decency requires that the money be returned? First, we don’t know if the extortionists are even telling the truth. Even if they are, what has Long done that rises to Barnes having to return the money? While the stories the adult men are putting forward might be tawdry, there is no crime.

There are four men looking to get paid because they claim to have had a relationship with Bishop Long. Bishop Long may, in the long run, be shown to be a hypocrite, but then, too, so are both men running for Gov this year. If the money were stolen, or Long be shown to have bribed elected officials, then the money should be returned. Right now, Long is nothing more than a victim of an extortion attempt. Would Barnes look best by jumping on the condemnation train, not waiting to hear the facts, and throwing his longtime friend under the bus?

Wow, you guys, you’ve made me defend Barnes. Somehow, I feel the lower than the hypocrate, the extortionists and their attorney right now.

AngryVoter

September 28th, 2010
2:40 pm

By the way, although I have not seen the pleadings, I cannot see how the case can survive summary judgment. If the cases are based on Long having enduced the men by giving them trips, money and tuition, then the fact the men chose to accept the items makes them responsible. If there were force, or if these were minors, there would be a case. Given that the men chose to accept the gifts and chose to have relations with the Bishop whem, instead, they could have chosen to walk away, shows consent. The men chose the items rather than choosing to walk. Shame on their attorney for trying to use the fact he’s a married, hypocritical religious leader to create the appearance of something happening that entitles her clients to get even more cash from the Bishop. Hopefully, a dismissal with sanctions will be in the attorney’s future.

ByteMe

September 28th, 2010
3:46 pm

Angry: the gifts started when the men were 16. Think of it as a student-teacher relationship and you can see how it could look like “coercion”. Not saying it is, but I think that’s the case the men’s lawyer is trying to create here.

Just Peachy

September 28th, 2010
5:08 pm

AngryVoter, really? what do you consider “better of the two choices” the fact that you probably agree with him on social issues? The reality is even as a repbulican I’d rather see Barnes back in office then a crook like Deal. Barnes can’t do much with the Repbulican legislative body anyway. Yes we’ll have four years of Barnes and the house fighting back and forth over legislation but at least we won’t see under the table deals… To me that makes Barnes the better choice but then again it depends on what you consider the better of choices. It’s more important to me to have a Republican run house and honest governor than having a dishonest governor and republican house.

The Centrist

September 28th, 2010
7:43 pm

Roy should return his when Sonny does.

Just Peachy

September 28th, 2010
8:28 pm

Just for the sake of argument in searching the state ethics site I only see Bishop Long’s contributions Democrats… none I can find to Sonny… just sayin’. So get the facts before reporting that Sonny took contributions. http://ethics.georgia.gov/Reports/Campaign/Campaign_ByContributionsearchresults.aspx?Contributor=long&Zip=&City=lithonia&ContTypeID=0&PAC=&Employer=&Occupation=&From=&To=&Cash=&InK=&Filer=&Candidate=&Committee=

Just Peachy

September 28th, 2010
8:33 pm

also appears the money was for July 20th primary ($5000 – wife donated $6100 in December 2009). These funds are for that election… spent funds, there’s nothing to give back.

AngryVoter

September 28th, 2010
9:26 pm

{eachy – Wow. You really have keen insight. Being able to read me so well. Except for the fact that I’m gay. I’m not Christian. I voted for Obama. I live intown in one of the more liberal areas of Atlanta.

Is that the same keen perception that makes you want to vote for Barnes? It might be a good time to start questioning your reasoning skills.

Barnes scares me to my very core. He and the Dems tried to steal the government from us, through multi-member districts, but the AJC gave him a pass. Every court that looked at the case, up to the US Supreme Court, slammed Barnes and the Dems in unanimous decisions. What happened here is as scary as anything that happens in Korea or Cuba, but because it cannot be reduced to a sound bite, Barnes was given a pass. That man should never be given any government authority ever again. It’s absurd that it’s even being considered.

The Dems had a chance to chose a viable candidate. Instead, they chose Barnes.

BTW, I think Barnes should have declined the Long contribution at the start, explaining that Long is a bigot and Barnes could not accept money from a bigot. Of course, Barneds did not do that, as he obviously feels money and political advantage trump conviction. But once Barnes accepted the money, he shouldn’t return it because grown men chose to have relations with Long and not want to be paid.

BonAmi

September 29th, 2010
9:33 am

It’s being intimated, but not proven, that Deal is a crook. Barnes proved that he is a crook when he was Governor.

Looks like we are going to be led for 4 more years by an assumed crook or a proven crook. The difference between them is that one is assumed and the other is proven, and that’s a big difference.

Jewish Republican

September 30th, 2010
2:41 pm

How can ANY candidate want to be associated with that scumbag, Long, anyway? He’d be better offf returning the money, but then, Barnes is an idiot!