Larry Sabato: Georgia GOP ‘goofed’ in picking Nathan Deal

About 20 minutes ago, Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics and editor of Sabato’s Crystal Ball, sent out the following thought on his Twitter account:

Former GOP candidate for governor Karen Handel

Former GOP candidate for governor Karen Handel

Can you imagine what Karen Handel is telling friends in GA? GOP made a big goof in nominating Nathan Deal 4 GOV in a squeaker.

In fact, we’ve made inquiries into whether Handel, who lost the Aug. 10 GOP runoff by a mere 2,500 votes, was interested in an interview – with no result.

Ironically, news of Deal’s financial troubles has paralyzed Handel. She can’t appear in public without some nosy journalist asking the obvious question.

And no matter how she were to respond, Handel would run into trouble. If the former secretary of state professed her enthusiasm for the current state of affairs, no one would believe her.

And if she were to wish, out loud, that her staff or the press had come across the information earlier, then she would be immediately damned as a disloyal Republican – slamming the door on any future plans in politics.

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64 comments Add your comment

Roy is the Only Choice

September 22nd, 2010
1:37 pm

When Tom Perdue says Deal should withdraw, you know Deal is in a tailspin that even GOP loyalists think is unrecoverable. By hiding information from the voters for so long, then lying to cover up, then hiding behind his family, Deal has exhausted any and all credibility.

xdog

September 22nd, 2010
1:40 pm

Well, Handel could say that since most of Georgia’s GOPer voters proved in the primary that they didn’t care about Deal’s ethical deficiencies, why should anyone be surprised that they don’t give a rat now?

Miss Peach

September 22nd, 2010
1:40 pm

Deal deliberately deceived his own base. If elected, what would he do to the rest of us?

Fester0068

September 22nd, 2010
1:41 pm

Is there any procedural way Handel could get back on the ballot if Deal were to withdraw? …not that he would but just wondering.

Truth Hurts

September 22nd, 2010
1:41 pm

Karen Handel was the correct choice for the Republicans . . . and for Georgia. Losing by only 2,000 votes is difficult when the possibility exists that democrat cross-over voting may very well have made the difference in her loss. If that is true, would it not be only poetic justice if Deal bested Barnes and became the governor? I think it would really be delicious . . . as revenge is a dish best served cold.

Hmm near Atlanta

September 22nd, 2010
1:43 pm

It is not just the bankruptcy. You Georgia voters need to read the ethics complaint too. I’ll be holding my nose (for the Gov vote), but it’s Barnes/Carol Porter all the way this year.

Churchill's MOM

September 22nd, 2010
1:43 pm

I supported Handel and that liar Deal is going to cost the state GOP. Why did the big names like Cagel support a person that they knew was a crook. I will not vote for Deal or Cagel.

Joyce M.

September 22nd, 2010
1:46 pm

Handel and her people need to get over it. The voters have spoken. Vote Deal!!!

Real Deal Real Steal

September 22nd, 2010
1:48 pm

Truth Hurts

September 22nd, 2010
12:58 pm
Cut & Paste from CREW site.. what is incorrect about their logic?

Representative Nathan Deal (R-GA) is a nine-term member of Congress, representing Georgia’s 9th congressional district. His ethics violations stem from his abuse of his position for his personal financial benefit.

Recovery Services, Inc. a/k/a Gainesville Salvage & Disposal

Rep. Deal, along with his business partner Ken Cronan, owns a lucrative business, Recovery Services, Inc., that – through a no-bid contract – provides inspection stations to the state for the inspection of salvaged vehicles. The business earned $1.4 million between 2004-2008 and Rep. Deal personally took home $150,000 a year.

In 2008, Georgia Revenue Commissioner Bart Graham took over responsibility for the inspection system and found the operational costs and locations of the inspection stations to be too costly and restrictive. Comm. Graham decided the best course of action was to reform the system and award contracts through a competitive bidding process.

Rep. Deal and his staff, with assistance from Georgia Lieutenant Governor Casey Cagle, arranged meetings with Comm. Graham at which Rep. Deal and his chief of staff were present, to persuade him to reconsider his decisions, including the proposed elimination of $1.7 million that has been allocated for the program. After Comm. Graham’s plan was passed by the Georgia House, Rep. Deal’s chief of staff used his House email to contact Georgia state officials in an effort to stop the plan from passing the state Senate. The money for the program was eventually kept in the budget.

Rep. Deal’s abuse of his position and taxpayer resources to maintain a personally lucrative business deal does not reflect creditably on the House.

Kitty Conrad

September 22nd, 2010
1:48 pm

Time to consider the Libertarian candidate.

findog

September 22nd, 2010
1:49 pm

And I saith onto you as relayed by Mathew
[B]ehold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep.
-The biased media is the storm and the GOP the ship
And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish.
-Where the GOP has failed to heed Saint Ronald’s 11th commandment
And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith?
-For behold the kingdom named for George shall forevermore be blessed as a red land
Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
-For those faithful of the flock shall not wander past the (R) and vote for and demon (D)

Truth Hurts

September 22nd, 2010
1:49 pm

Joyce M:

I did exactly that. I cast my vote for Deal yesterday.

Jason

September 22nd, 2010
1:52 pm

From the OCE Report

•Deal used his office to meet with state officials about a program that “generated significant personal financial benefit for him and a business partner.” (page 5)
•Chris Riley, Deal’s Chief of Staff, contacted state officials using his House e-mail account to about the no-bid contracts for Gainesville Salvage & Disposal, where Deal served in official capacity, with the State. (page 5)
•Deal failed to disclose all earned income on disclosures in 2006, 2007 and 2008. (page 5)
•Deal earned $75,000 in 2008 from Gainesville Salvage & Disposal, which exceeds the amount allowed by House ethics rules. (page 5-6)

findog

September 22nd, 2010
1:53 pm

Have faith
For if thou were to vote for Nathan, then that good godly republican would fall upon his spear of faith and then thy servant Casey would lead us all to the promised land of milk and honey

Davis

September 22nd, 2010
1:55 pm

Vote for a Honest man for Governor.. Vote for John Monds.

http://www.votemonds.com/

skeptomaniac

September 22nd, 2010
2:02 pm

Truth Hurts and Joyce M this is not about Karen Handel. I voted for Karen Handel, but Eric Johnson would have been a good choice also. Deal was not in the running because he is part of the sleezy corruption in Washington DC which we need to get rid of. Roy Barnes is definitely not the answer, but I won’t vote for a corrupt candidate like Nathan Deal. I guess I will leave the governors box blank when I vote. Voting blindly for one party candidate or another is what has gotten us too many bad representatives.

catlady

September 22nd, 2010
2:03 pm

Voting has started; the ballots were printed weeks ago. Handel is not on them. She did not qualify by early September to be a write-in candidate.

Whoever you vote for for Governor (and shame on you if you vote for Deal) don’t put the man, Cagle, who assisted Deal in some of his escapades in the Lt. Governor’s seat.

No matter who you vote for for Governor, vote for someone who had nothing to do with this for Lt. Gov: Carol Porter. Yes, she is a woman, but she has a husband to tell he what to do (TIC).

findog

September 22nd, 2010
2:04 pm

I say unto you all that the unrepentant sinner from Marietta has carved a craven image of a seal into his foyer and though must rise up to cast this demon from your midst lest your seed go to waste in Leviticus’ homophobic hell

Cast thy lot with the (R)ighteous
Do not listen to the siren call of (L)ost ballots heaped upon the Monds
And fight the (D)evil in every ballot offering

Even-Handed

September 22nd, 2010
2:11 pm

This is what we have to look forward to from the Tea Party movement!! Candidates with dubious records, backgrounds, and limited or no experience, fueled primarily by anger but with no positive ideas or agenda. What happens if Deal becomes Governor – does anyone know what he will actually do differently to help the current economic or social situation?? What would he change about health care for example (or maybe he would want to repeal it and go back to the broken system we had before)??

Janice

September 22nd, 2010
2:12 pm

I think Deal may quit this race and claim (family reasons) rather than show his complete tax records.

Just Peachy

September 22nd, 2010
2:13 pm

Karen was classy the evening she lost, in her concession, and remains full of class through this situation by keeping her comments to herself good or bad. I however am not so classy… Way to go GA GOP voters you handed Roy Barnes the golden dome on a golden platter… fitting. Barnes was hoping and praying he’d be against Deal or Oxendine in the General and you you made it happen.

Joyce M, telling “Handel & her people need to get over it.” They are over it and voting for Barnes. You forget MANY, MANY of the Handel supporters were behind her for her ethics reform. Ethics does matter to some republican’s (clearly not all or he would not be on the ballot right now). The red flags are going up everywhere.

Fester 0068, unfortunatley it’s too late in the game for him to drop out and pull in another candidate. The Republican spot would be blank leaving just Barnes & Mondes on the ballot. Jim wrote an article about it yesterday. Essentially the only two cases he can be dropped from the ballot is death of candidate or disqualification and those are the only circumstances in which a new candidate can replace Deal. If he just drops out or the GOP encourages him to (which they won’t because this all conviently came out after the 9/7 deadline) so no candidate would replace. The article is here http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2010/09/20/your-morning-jolt-lets-kill-that-talk-of-a-nathan-deal-withdrawal/?cxntfid=blogs_political_insider_jim_galloway&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

findog

September 22nd, 2010
2:14 pm

Time for the GOP to come out and say, “Vote for Nathan and he will resign allowing Casey to lead our Republican form of government for the next four years.”

It is the only way.

It worked for those Missouri demons 2000 in when their candidate died just before the election and his widow was established as his replacement unimaginably denying brother Ashcroft of his second term.

Janice

September 22nd, 2010
2:14 pm

All Deal will use the office for (if elected) is to make money and pay of his debts by more dirty Dealing.

David

September 22nd, 2010
2:15 pm

Deal is far from a deal…..old warn out politician that has been in the system too long and needs to be recycled.

His financial troubles are his own problem, but his mentality is everyone else’s problem.

Roy isn’t the answer either, we have already tried him! Bring back Handel and let us give her a whirl!

LostSavannah

September 22nd, 2010
2:17 pm

You get what you deserve for blindly voting your party and not looking into the actual candidate. They’re all crooks in one way or another and it appears that Deal with a blatantly open crook in that he thinks he can do whatever he wants without repercussions. Mercifully, after the end of this year, I won’t have to worry about Georgia politics as I’ll be a Florida resident.

General Sherman

September 22nd, 2010
2:19 pm

Deal or Barnes,They are only good if the legilatures allows it. The whole legislative body is responsible for most of our problems ,,not the governor. He serves the will of the legislature.

skeptomaniac

September 22nd, 2010
2:19 pm

Even-Handed, you think the new Obamacare law has fixed the healthcare system? Most of it hasn’t taken effect and won’t until 2014 and all it will do is raise the cost even more. . Has Roy Barnes told us what he will do either? None of these politicians really tell us much but sound bite generalities. Deal is not a Tea Party candidate by the way. They would have picked someone better.

songbird

September 22nd, 2010
2:23 pm

I voted for Handel in the primary. I will not vote for Deal. Not sure if Monds or Barnes will get my vote. Haven’t made up my mind yet. I will vote for Carol Porter for Lt. Governor because Cagle is also an unethical crook.

This is Crazy

September 22nd, 2010
2:29 pm

I agree with you Even-Handed. You are so correct. Need we say anything more.

professional skeptic

September 22nd, 2010
2:29 pm

catlady
September 22nd, 2010
2:03 pm

I’ll second that, catlady. Georgians need to clean house of all the self-serving, self-Dealing shysters that have infected Georgia politics for so long. Glenn Richardson, John Oxendine… And let’s not forget ol’ brother Chip Pearson, who, while still a state senator, set up his own consulting bidness on the side, for the purpose of helping those with deep pockets gain easy access to GA lawmakers!

Now, it looks like Nathan Deal’s on the way out, and hopefully the people of GA will toss out Casey “back pain” Cagle along with the rest of the trash.

Carol Porter for Lt. Governor!
http://www.carolporterforgeorgia.com/pages/biography

professional skeptic

September 22nd, 2010
2:36 pm

Incidentally, Carol Porter’s top three issues are education, transportation and water… NOT Wheeling, Dealing & Stealing.

Carol Porter for Lt. Governor!
http://www.carolporterforgeorgia.com/pages/issues

majii

September 22nd, 2010
2:36 pm

Some of the GOP voters must use some of that “personal responsibility” that they always talk about and accept some “personal responsibility” for voting for Deal without carefully examining his background. Some effort must also be made to stop taking negative information that is revealed about a candidate personally, and stop being so quick to defend him/her. Investigate the allegation(s.)

I, and many others, knew about Deal’s ethics violations and financial problems, but when we tried to bring it to the attention of those who post on ajc.com, we were attacked viciously. It might not be such a bad idea to listen and do a little research of your own next time. People tend to kill the messenger instead of taking the time to investigate the allegation(s.)

I voted for Sonny Perdue, but Deal will not get my vote.

spd

September 22nd, 2010
2:40 pm

Awwww…. Go ahead and vote for Roy. In Georgia, even the Democrats are Republican. Georgia politics is such a joke, they should have a laugh-track with it.

Tired of BS

September 22nd, 2010
2:43 pm

As a lifelong conservative, I am still so PO’d at how poorly Mrs. Handel was treated…. by the Republican Party of Georgia no less. No doubt about it, Karen Handel got screwed! The elite good for nothing, good ole boys were afraid of a girl. How pathetic! What a bunch of losers.

If Roy wins, look to the chairMEN of 4 county party’’s. Look at Cobb, Fulton, Gwinnett, and Hall counties. I believe that THEY above anyone else are to blame. THEY DID NOTHING to help Karen Handel during her campaign. In fact I do believe that they along with some weasley elected officials probably particpated in the back-room Deal making that went on about a week before the election.
They all have their own political aspirations…. let’s you know what kind of leadership they would provide.

Many very good people worked on this campaign. Most of us are still angry. This conservative has given my last dollar to the Republican Party. It ain’t sour grapes, just a fact. I just do no feel the need to give financial backing to a party who does not value my voice or my vote! You want my vote…… you have to damned well earn it!

Disavantaged Insider

September 22nd, 2010
2:46 pm

Anything that keeps Handel quet is okay by me!

Ben

September 22nd, 2010
2:48 pm

Let’s just say that whoever did the “opposition research” for the Handel campaign, probably will not be listing that experience on his resume.

Diehard

September 22nd, 2010
2:48 pm

Tom Perdue wanted a check from the GOP. No deal. His wife was the fundraiser for Karen Handel. No bonus. The Barnes campaign has passed is reefer polling to Sabato and he inhaled. And who cares what Larry Sabato twitters? Can you trust his judgment when he looks in the mirror every morning and says, “I love my wig”. He’s been sniffing the glue that keeps it in place.

gm

September 22nd, 2010
2:49 pm

These people that backed Deal are Sean Hannity, Glen Beck nuts, they do no research, they listen to these college drop outs who make millions by promoting this My country crap.

findog

September 22nd, 2010
2:53 pm

professional skeptic
“self-Dealing” shysters is redundant
I think they call it qualifying qualifier when dinging you in technical writing…

Karen Handel Supporter

September 22nd, 2010
2:55 pm

I am switching my vote for Roy Barnes, I fix Deal please dont take our votes for granted.Deal no Deal

majii

September 22nd, 2010
3:05 pm

The HCR bill could have been used to “fix” many of the problems with our healthcare system had it not been for healthcare companies and lobbyists persuading some citizens to work against it by lying to them using words like” government takeover” and “death panels,” which scared some people almost to death. The insurance companies knew all along that they’d still be private companies after the bill passed when they were pushing these lies, and they knew that they’d still have some control over your treatment. They opposed HCR because they wanted the opportunity to continue collecting money from us and denying us treatment in order to boost their profits for their shareholders. The Affordable Care Act pays for itself. That was a condition the republicans demanded in order to allow the bill to proceed for a final vote. If something is paid for, how can it possibly cause taxes to increase?

Any increases in insurance premiums will come from the insurance companies, not the ACA.

The president’s plan is to extend tax cuts for us, the middle class, and allow the tax cuts for the top 2% to expire on December 31 of this year.

When the tax cuts were enacted in 2001 and 2003, they were passed using budget reconciliation, a process that many republicans convinced their supporters to believe they’d never heard of and never used earlier this year. Boehner was a member of Congress when the tax cuts were passed. In a meeting with the president a few months ago, Boehner said he had nothing to do with them, but he was on the committee that designed the bill!

Because they had to borrow the money for the tax cuts and the democrats opposed it, the republicans passed the bill using budget reconciliation, and they set the expiration date on the cuts for the end of this year. President Obama wasn’t in the Senate when these tax cuts were passed, but that hasn’t stopped the republicans from trying to convince their supporters that something they did is his fault.

There have been, and are, no Obama tax increases.

The republicans set the bomb to go off at the end of this year. The problem they have now is that they want to keep getting the tax cuts for themselves since many of them are far wealthier than we are. This whole move is self serving. Take Ben Nelson and Blanche Lincoln, democrats who also want to keep their tax cuts in place. It was revealed recently that Nelson is worth $17 million. They are millionaires who will vote against tax cuts for us if they don’t get tax cuts for themselves. Never mind that extending the tax cuts for the top 2% of Americans will raise the deficit by $4.8 Trillion over the next 10 years.

I don’t know about you, but I think we need the money more than the 2% of the population and more than the millionaire members of Congress.

JayInAtlanta

September 22nd, 2010
3:16 pm

“Deal is not a Tea Party candidate by the way. They would have picked someone better.” – skeptomaniac

That has got to be one of the funniest comment quotes ever. Better how? Like that financially incompetent (and possibly criminal) candidate O’Donnell? Or Rubio in FL, who also appears pretty financially negligent, to say the least? More whackjob crazy like both O’Donnell and Angle?

Being completely objective, the Tea Party doesn’t have the cleanest record in vetting their candidates. I’m not defending Democrats or Republicans here, but I think your statement is pretty ludicrous. I’m also always confused when I see the Tea Party, which I honestly thought was supposed to be a model platform for financial responsibility, help nominate people who have shown poor personal financial judgment.

As for Deal, these are the facts. The ONLY ways he’s going to “meet [his] obligations” is if: a) some wealthy donor secretly pays off his bills for him, or b) he gets into power and he and Cagle use their political muscle to scare people into forgiving the debts.

It’s really sickening that our state could wind up in the hands of those two folks.

professional skeptic

September 22nd, 2010
3:23 pm

findog:

Even more redundant of me was mentioning Richardson, Oxendine, Deal, Cagle and Pearson all in the same post.

southern boy

September 22nd, 2010
3:26 pm

how did deal have the income he did, from congress and his salvage business, and pay so little in taxes? we need an explanation. something doesnt compute.

Tracy

September 22nd, 2010
3:45 pm

Nothing adds up about Deal because his entire political life is nothing but one giant lie and corruption ring.

I could care less about any political beliefs the man has. He’s nothing more than a tax stealing compulsive lying embarrassment to the GOP, to Georgia and to any honest hard working person who’s not stolen for their paycheck.

I have no doubts he was trying to hide (and continues to hide what’s left to hide) is troubles in hopes of winning Governor and continuing his political corruption to steal state dollars to pay off his debts.

What a disgrace of a human being.

HillBilly

September 22nd, 2010
4:37 pm

Churchill’s MOM : You are exactly right. I to remember the ones who supported and endorsed the Crooked Deal and will vote for Dem’s before I’d vote for them. I guess you can tell I was for Handel

E.L.M.

September 22nd, 2010
5:46 pm

How about we start a write in for Karen Handel!!!!!

Paddy O

September 22nd, 2010
6:05 pm

Gen Sherm – you younger than 25? Only know the feckless efforts of Elmer Fudd from Bonaire? Most governors push an agenda; Elmer was just looking to push time until he retired.

Paddy O

September 22nd, 2010
6:08 pm

majii – you are a lying sack of potatoes.

Davis

September 22nd, 2010
6:12 pm

John Monds is on the Herman Cain Show tonight at 8:05