Nathan Deal: ‘I understand Georgia’s pain’

I voted for Karen Handel in the Republican primary. After she lost that race, I have attempted to support the nominee Nathan Deal. I can no longer support him and certainly will not vote for him. I will NOT vote for a democrat. I will vote for the Libertarian candidate for governor and will vote against every democrat on the remainder of my ballot.

Nathan Deal should have bowed out of this campaign when the results of the ethics investigation proved damaging to him. He chose not to do so and has left the Republican Party in Georgia in disarray. Nathan Deal is responsible for his actions and those actions have consequences.

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Ok people, if you believe this guy I have, Oh! never mind some of you people will believe anything.

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[...] Insider’s Jim Galloway has just posted a  quick-and-dirty transcript of the conference call Nathan Deal just held with supporters ” to calm angst” over recent news reports dealing [...]

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This doesn’t say a whole heck of a lot for Newt and the others who endorsed this clown.

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Typical Republican. “I am aware that I played a big part in creating this financial problem, but if you’ll just give me another chance, I promise to fix it…or at least get in the way of others who want to fix it.”

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Where was the establishment Republican Party leadership when it came time to vet candidates to ensure they were electable? Sue Everhart? Where were you? Why didn’t you do your JOB????

I believe Deal is a good man, and would be an experienced chief executive. But this baggage he carries into the campaign, against a refurbished, rehashed John Edwards/John Kerry/Obama/big government/tax and spend/loser democRat retread SHOULD have been a cakewalk.

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Let’s see… we have Nathan Deal, a true Conservate, Roy Barnes a Liberal Democrat, and Monds, a new Libertarian candidate. Let’s just hope that all of these attacks on Nathan Deal do not split the Conservative vote and put Barnes back in office for another four years.

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I’m all for supporting family. I’m also for laughing in their face when they ask me to risk my financial stability on a multi-million dollar loan. So I don’t understand your thinking, Mr. Deal. Sorry.

And can we please stop with this “common man” nonsense. Your crushing debt is not a positive quality.

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Yes, Nathan, and I believe in the tooth fairy.

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Is Deal the only person to ever to have financial problems? No. I believe he will liquidate, pay off some of the debt and then refinance the rest of the debt. Rich people do this all the time (Donald Trump for example). This is really not that big a deal when you compare it to what kind of mess Georgia is going to be in due to Obama care (cost the state will pay for increased medicaid rolls), cap and trade, increased federal taxes, ect… Now do you want a elect a Governor that is going to stand up and fight for us or a Governor that will go along with all of Obama’s plans? Do you want a Governor that will help reapportion more Dems out of congress or one that is going to put more in to back Obama? The choice is clear. We have already learned that elections have consequences and we will be paying for years the consequences of our last Presidential election. Do we do our part to help roll back the damage or do we help with Obama continue with his radical agenda?

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Nathan Deal is completely delusional if he thinks his “family and small business” finances have nothing to do with his campaign or his ability to run the state of Georgia. These issues are a direct reflection on his ability to lead or operate the state of Georgia through our FINANCIAL hardships. As governor, Deal would be making business decisions; as well as decisions that will affect the finances of all the families in the state.

Only a lying idiot would go ahead with a conference call and make those asinine statements; while holding up his head. But, then again only an idiot would vote for this man after hearing what was said.

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gm, If you think the people of this state are a bunch of “hicks” then why do you stay? I promise you we will not be mad if you leave and go move into one of those other states (Calf, NY, Mass) where the residents are not such “hicks”.

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Sick&Tired, I guess then the majority of the residents are going to be a bunch of “idiots” then because Deal will be the next Governor of this state. I know us “idiots” would not mind one little bit if you superior intellectual people just picked up and moved the HELL out of our state. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out my friend.

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Nathan Deal and Casey Cagle don’t like Federal money? Why don’t they just pledge to reject any Federal handouts? They’ll say it will just go to the other states. Well either set the example (leadership) or quit biting the hand that feeds you.

Reckon Deal’s profitable business would that way if he had truly subscribed to the idea of free enterprise and competitive bidding?

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@td. What happened to letting the people decide who their representatives are? Why does Georgia need a Governor “who will help reapportion out Democrats”? Typical Republican claptrap. The system has to be manipulated because the people do not know what is best for them.

Desparate men do desparate things. Deal has already proven his is ethically challenged. Do Georgians really want to put him in charge of state government?

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Td: what cap & trade. That bill died in the Senate. Wow, instead of spitting out talking points, you might want to read the newspaper once in a while.

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td = truly delusional… Just because the hate in your heart wants it to be true doesn’t mean it is. Deal is a joke. What kind of person really wants to vote for this clown. You probably have the same feeling you had after McCain picked Sarah Palin as a running mate. You knew the race was over, you were just too confused to admit it. Roy is gonna win by a landslide.

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The average Georgian would love to live on a “modest” income of $150K a year. That’s more than we bought our house for! He doesn’t understand a thing about the pain of real Georgians. We don’t have the collateral or the assets to get ourselves that deep into debt, nor can we afford to hire a lawyer to help us declare bankruptcy. He is a prime example of the worst of the good ol’ boy network.

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MATT go ahead and elect Roybama…Nathan is real …he is every man …are you doing great these days financially… Roy is …but did you see how he did it……I am glad I am not your child or your wife.

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My eighty-five year old mother keeps Fox News on the TV whether she is at home or not because she wants them to have high ratings. Even she is disgusted by Nathan Steal.

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Hell, and I thought only Zell Miller and Bill Clinton could “feel our pain”.

Just goes to show ya’, the AJC writers know more than the rest of us normal human beings. Yup.

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Way back, there used to be folks that were ‘devil or die democrats’ – meaning they vote for those with (D) next to the name on the ballot, no matter how bad they were. I guess that’s the lemming population inherited by the GOP. People, please, PLEASE look at the integrity of the individuals running for office. Deal does not pass muster.

Just because he swore to pledge allegiance to the GOP, doesn’t make him a responsible individual … actually, that might make him questionable anyway….

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Sick&Tired, You are partially understanding my point. Deal is going to win because their is an “R” beside his name and the vast majority of the voters are so angry at the Dems and Obama that their is no way they will vote for anyone in this election cycle with a “D” beside their name.

I can see the series of commercials and mass mailings now, linking Barnes to Obama about health care and increased taxes. I can see the ad that will be run stating Barnes sued the state to allow illegals and convicted felons to vote. Do you really think these angry voters are going to care if Deal has had failed business ventures? This is why Deal will win. I do not think it is too delusional to look at this in a realistic manner because once Deals team can attach Barnes to Obama it is all over. Why do you think Barnes ran and hid in S. Georgia when Obama came to Atlanta? He knows it as well.

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I notice that Roy Barnes has been running TV ads on FOX News. Looks like he is trying to rattle Deal’s supporters and make them think twice before they vote.

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Hey Greg, what do you mean Fox news viewers thinking – isn’t that an oxymoron? Fox goes by the mantra of saying a falsehood many, many times makes it true… at least in most folks minds.

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Where is the leadership of the Republican Party now? Come on guys..it is time to call Deal off. AJC, could you report about what, if any, remedies are available if Deal drops out now. Who becomes the rightfully elected candidate.? Don’t wait until the election is over.

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td

What are you going to do if either of these events occurs:

1. On the morning of November 3rd, Roy Barnes
is the Governor of the Great State of
Georgia? and/or

2. Before the morning of November 3rd, Nathan
Deal is indicted by the U.S. Dept. of Just- ice for failing to report on his congres-
sional financial disclosure statements over
$230,000 in additional income from the
state of Georgia and for the pressure he
put on GA Revenue Commissioner Bart Graham
(a Republican appointee of $onny Perdue)
not to put Deals’s no-bid, monopolistic
vehicle salvage business out for competi-
tive bids?

td – We’ve already had 8 years of mismanagement in state government by $onny Perdue, who has spent most of the time in his office on the 2nd floor of the Capitol making tons of money for himself and his friends. And you want Georgians to hand it over to Nathan Deal, who will do exactly the same thing? You must be ill!

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Can’t those ballots already cast in early voting be set aside? Is there now way to change the nominee at this point?

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td- We tried it your way with your partisan hacks and you almost broke the world. Give the President a chance, he’s hasn’t even served half a term yet for crying out loud.

By the way, I could consider voting some of these Congressmen out of office except that I’m scared to death of who they will be replaced by. This latest nut from Delaware is a prime example.

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Deals supporters are predomently in rural GA. The very poorest least eduated people in the state are voing for the guy who has hurt them off more than anyone with his crookedness and will deny them the most benefits in their time of need……………

People need to realize that all the money is made in metro Atlanta and its metro Atlanta that feeds the weath to GA. Either Handle or Barnes will help our state financially where as dumbass Deal will keep Georgians poor and uneducated.

FYI td my company in Atlanta has over 20 jobs paying way over 100k in base and we cannot get skilled people. Seems to me that some of the dumbass tea people would be better served getting an education than blaming Obama for everything. Then again the ‘personal responsibility” that is talked about seems to only apply to Demoncrats.

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If the GA GOP wanted any shot to be in the running they should pull all support for “Real Done Deal” and throw it all at Monds citing conservative synergies. It could be a brilliant move.

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Nathan Deal said “I understand Georgia’s pain”. He should have said, stupid investors like me are the primary reason behind Georgia’s pain.

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TD, I definitely support your viewpoint. You however are preaching to a deaf earred audience. They are products of the same audience who put Obama in office.
Regardless of what Mr. Deal says, it is anti and wrong in their eyes.
Yes, I will support Mr. Deal. He is real and he sacrificed for his family. And by the way, I am not in a rural area or a country bumpkin.

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Once again here is a Politician that claims an OVERSIGHT on not filing a factual financial disclosure report. Deal is as crooked as they come. His problem is that he got caught. But I am sure that if he is eleceted all of the “BAD” loans will disappear and be forgiven. Which will probably be done even if he is not elected. The Banks will forgive scum like him but refuse to help someone who has loat their job because Deal and his other Washington crook friends took payoffs and passed legislation to send more jobs to China.

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td: the last pathetic stand of the Deal Staffers. You go, girl, we need the entertainment of a good Poe.

Someone should inform td’s boss that these issues wouldn’t come up during the campaign if Deal told the truth about them long ago. Like, maybe when he filled out the ethics paperwork. But then he couldn’t have stolen the nomination, could he?

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Georiga Female: You are product that supported Kill over 4 thousand Americans George oil Bush.

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td: “should I say everything north of 285. They will vote overwhelmingly for Deal. ”

Why do YOU think the people of the northern suburbs (of which I am one), if you are correct, are so UTTERLY unconcerned with the character of a man who would withhold this kind of information from his own loyal party supporters — and trash our very own Karen Handel to win the nomination? Or why we would not care that he’s either very BAD at math and financial planning, or simply does not care about how his actions affect others in the future?

Just curious.

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who makes more damage illegal aliens or political liars?

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This Just In: Nathan Deal said his finance troubles were caused by Obama, illegals, frosty the snowman, the florida gators,

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Nathan Deal. Just too Crooked for Georgia.

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gm, So being a socialist or communist is better. If this is not true then why are so many Dems running as far away from Obama as they can right now. This state and for the most part this country is center- right and you freaking intellectual elite freaking progressives just can not stand it. Get over it order will be restored shortly.

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“I feel Georgia’s pain”.

Yeah, some how I doubt that. Politicians (especially Republicans) are completely incapable of feeling anyone’s pain other than their own.

It’s all about them, i.e., “Me, me, me, me, me”.

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Peachy, Best man for what? What did he do with his last term in office? Oh Yea, got run out of office because he lied to the teachers. What has he done since being out of office? Oh yea, cost the state millions because he sued it to allow illegals and convicted felons access to the voting booth.

I do not think so. I will hold my nose and take my chances with Deal. At least I know he will not block every thing coming out of the conservative legislature.

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Hey td – remember when Deal was a Democrat and said if he ever switched parties he would resign and run as a Repub in a special election? Well he did switch, but seems he forgot the little piece about resigning….

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Ga girl, at least we agree on one thing–Go Nathan Deal—to the Federal Penitentiary!!!!

And no, I’m not Karen Handel, she’s probably laughing too hard to type right now. She should run for Governor next time with the slogan “I told you so!”

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my only wish is this could have surfaced before the primary. i am still a handel fan.

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td
September 17th, 2010
11:18 am

Your best response to this joker is “rich people do this all the time, so that makes it all A-OK, so let’s keep voting for them?”

I hear Bernie Madoff was a pretty rich guy, some time ago…

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Save the socialist comments for Tea party people who have no clue what that means, Bush was the bigest socialist ever, but you people were to stupid to investigate it.
Hannity, Beck scared people like you to believe Obama a communist, while you fools go out and buy their books, pay to seem and they collect their millions.

By the way we are comming to the polls and vote, so please tell that to Beck, another one never went to college and Rush another one.

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td what a dumbass you are,

if it wasn’t for out of town investment GA would be as poor as Alabama,

and yes you would be sad if all the “carpetbaggers” left as all that would be left is people like Nathan Deal who would have you all working for minimum wage in Walmart,

BTW I was born here but I understand economics, actually run a business and understand how Purdue and Deal have hurt Atlanta in trying to attract quality businesses to town.

You should be more concerned about attracting business rather than a percent here of there in the tax rate. Facts are low tax is not much help on a low wage………..

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td – Thanks for admitting what we all already knew. Republicans are counting on the uneducated, uninformed masses to give them a majority back. They will stoke the fears of those who as you said “don’t read the paper or watch the news” with any lies they can think of so long as it helps them get back in power.

And here you are defending this practice? Grand Old Party my @@@……….

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To all of you brain-dead “I’m going to support Nathan…he’s a good man.” This is exactly why this country is in the situation it’s in. We’ve got to make a stand and kick these inept politicians to the curb. I’ve been a Rebub all my life and will not vote for this fool if he was running against Pelosi. I cannot believe Deal and Barnes are the best we have to offer. Doesn’t say much for the voters of this state. And to all of you who keep saying…he’s a good man he just tried to help his daughter. Jethro had a good heart too but Jed wouldn’t let him near the money. Deal is a disaster in an important election. The way I see it, we are in for a rough 4 years either way. Thanks Newt and all you bible thumping rurals!

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Td: Feed up with you: Have no clue what a communist is Hannity, Beck are the most Anti Americans in the country,

Please Hicks reseach the world socialist before you throw it out there.

One thing I agree with you on td, Most of the bigots live north of 285 will vote for this scum.

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Nathan just admitted that he filed false statements in his personal financial statements:

Please read again what Congressmane Deal stated (or what was reported in this story)

“Like any small business, if you are a stockholder, you are sometimes asked to be guarantors on a loan for the corporation. That’s exactly what those loans are. The assets of the corporation and the assets that we own as individuals for the business far exceed any of those obligations.

Well, Congressman Deal did not list his interest in the company (Wilder Outdoors Inc.) as a direct ownership interest in a business entity as required by law. Just keep talking Congressman Deal just makes it better

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Jonathan, If I am such a “dumbass” then answer me this: Why are all of these businesses willing to leave NY, Mass, Ohio and other northern cities? Could it be because they get less regulation, less taxes and no unions here in Georgia? And what type of people that are pro business and do these types of things? Now who looks like a “dunbass”?

BTW: You are one of only a few people I know that was born in Georgia and are still a Democrat. Most of the conservative ones switched parties about 10 years ago, when as Zell Miller out it “I did not leave the democratic party they left me”.

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Buck Necked
September 17th, 2010
1:23 pm

If you liquidate these assets to cover the 2 million. Who is buying them? Are they political friends helping you out? Special interest looking for you to return the favor should you be elected?

Inquiring minds definitely want to know.

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Please leave Nathan Deal alone. He’s exactly the kind of politicians that the conservative party likes to support. He’s financially sound, a small business owner and his morals are beyond reproach. He’s a family man who pays all of his bills and taxes on time. He would never hide anything from his beloved supporters. He has those good old fashion southern values and is family oriented. And he hasn’t cheated on his wife, YET.

The democrats are just out to get him, just look at how they are pitching his financial mess as something to worry about. We don’t have to worry, if the kitchen gets too hot in the Governor’s mansion; Governor Deal will just leave. He did the same thing as our Representative, when things got hot in D.C. There is absolutely nothing unethical about walking away from your obligations; financial or otherwise. It’s the way we do things; in our world.

Deal is a wonderful father who chooses to help his daughter and son-in-law; because they worked hard for their $2 million dollar assistance. Plus, if he had died and they inherited the money, it would have gone mostly to taxes. No good conservative would want that to happen to his “middle” daughter and son-in-law; because they worked so hard to earn their way in life. I mean you have to work hard to please a crook. Oops, did I say that. Well, I have to be honest some time.

People like Deal and me don’t like handouts to the poor, but we are willing to borrow money to handout to our family. It’s the conservative way. Plus, if you borrow money you must show you can pay it back. Or I guess the banks will garnish Deals pay; when he becomes Governor. I’m sure since he will be living in the Governors mansions for free, with the bills paid and food on the table; it won’t matter that he’s not getting paid. We have absolutely nothing to worry about. It’s the conservative way.

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Enter your comments here

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td Just what businesses are you talking about that are leaving ny, mass, and ohio. Give us the names of these companies.

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That is really sad (to chief of Smoke). Voting for Deal. Tell me, can you remove your blinders? Tell me, what in the *(*** is wrong with you?! Georgia needs help and you, well, never mind. There is something seriously wrong w/ someone who’d vote for Deal in the face of this. Probably something “wrong” though, for someone to appreciate the self-centered Republican platform. It’s either called hatefulness or plain denial; don’t know which!!
PM

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I usually don’t waste my time reading past articles,sometimes when I’m caught up I will scan a few written by the majority that apparently are using the company clock or on welfare to attack Mr. Deal.I wonder just how many of you have ever met Nathan or shook his hand or even ask him a question?I have known Nathan for only a short period of time,maybe 9 months and prior to that just like many of you only knew what I got from the news and on the street.

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Excellent, so now the Real Deal is channeling Bill Clinton. What exactly is a Republican these days?

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I bet Karen Handel saying look at these fools who got Deal now they wish I was running against Barnes. Deal is the biggest disgrace to Georgia.

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It’s really pathetic that the best the Republican Party can do is Nathan Deal. One of his businesses had a no bid sweetheart deal with the state of GA for several years. He lied on his financial disclosure forms. His judgment is so bad that he and his wife put their net worth at risk on a high risk retail venture, then he wraps it in what used to be the refuge of Democrats, “for the children”. The bank that made the loans on this venture was closed by the FDIC and cited for its bad lending practices. Does anybody think that Deal’s status as a member of the U.S. Congress didn’t have anything to do with his ability to even get the loans?

That’s all we need, a broke crook in the governor’s mansion, looking to quickly rebuild his net worth.

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GOT THE FAITH

September 17th, 2010
1:39 pm

YEAH, we are all on welfare.. Same old arguments……

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I’d be willing to bet that Deal will have a private fundraisers to help pay off his debts just so they can get him in office so they dont have to have a democratic gov.

Neither one of them is anything to write home about.

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Businesses are moving here because GA politicians are cheaper. For $5 million they can have their very own Governor! I’m sure Blagojevich would have cost them a heap more.

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td,

I am from Georgia and MOST of my relatives are still here and still Democrats. (I know you were talking about white folks, so I’ll tell you they don’t come any whiter than me.) You want to talk about the flip from D to R in this state? Oh! Oh! Oh! I can answer that, Mr. Kotter.

The Republican “southern strategy” started long before Reagan had the bad taste to announce in Philadelphia, Mississippi. (Where yankee civil rights workers go to die.) When the civil rights movement grew in strength and visibility, there were two kinds of Southern Democrats: (1) Those like my family who said, “This is right. This needs to happen.” (2) Those who said, we don’t need those n*****s thinking they have rights! The GOP gobbled up type 2 by explaining that whatever problems they had, it was the fault of n****s and “libruls.” NEXT WAVE: Hard-working blue collar and barely white collar folks who found themselves recessioned in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. They came down here to the land of cotton, pecans, and snowless winters to discover something AMAZING! Not only was there work to be had, but they could afford to buy a house in our cheap southern land. They could get something NICE! They worked and wound up next to golf courses, living the ‘merican dream, and then looked at the less fortunate and said, “I got MINE! I worked for it! Scrooooooo them!” Never mind that the “wealth” they worked for had more to do with real estate prices than anything else. The GOP makes them feel “special” while still pointing fingers at the n****s and the little brown people as the source of all their maladies.

Lots of us are still Democrats. You just don’t see us because we’re not marching around the town square with tea bags hanging off our hats and signs that compare the President to Hitler.

You’re welcome.

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Our state will become the laughing stock of the South if Nathan Deal gets elected.

REALy.

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To Aquagirl: What companies are moving here to Georgia? Then how come our unemployment rate went up to 10%? td: You’re delusional, companies are not beating down the doors to come to this dunghole state. We have one of the lowest tax rates for corporations and one of the highest unemployment rates. Where are all the jobs that low taxes are supposed to bring!

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Forlorn Republican

September 17th, 2010
1:45 pm

You really are a Republican! It was meant to be funny, although his position as a posible candidate for governor is NOT FUNNY. It’s the scariest thing I have seen in 30 years. Only a complete fool would vote for this man.

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BTW, Got the Faith, it should be What ARE your feelings….plural subject, plural predicate. 3rd grade stuff.

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td must stand for to dumb to face reality. It’s moron’s such as you that helps get crooks like deal in position to rob and steal what’s left of Georgia’s dignity and puts the state 2 steps behind ala. and mississippi. if obama called himself a conservation and switched parties you would still be stuck on the tint of his skin. wake up!!!!

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tom, don’t ask me, ask td. He has all the inside info on this mass migration. I was simply offering an explanation as to why such a thing might happen. Aside from chicken factories and other illegal-friendly jobs I don’t see much evidence of job growth. Certainly the biotech companies aren’t beating down our door, thanks to wingnuts who think a collection of 16 frozen cells has full Constitutional rights.

Heck, I bet Nathan would live up to his “Real Deal” slogan for anyone in the market for a politician. Make him an offer folks, he’ll negotiate, unlike Blago who would bust your n^#$

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GaBlue@1:50 PM— Well said.

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IT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF AN PARENTS NEAR RETIREMENT AGE TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THEIR CHILDREN. That is called ENABELING BAD BEHAVIOR. The logical conclusion to this statement is that since Mr. Deal is not insolvent, and his daughter has declared bankruptcy, he and his wife should borrow even more money to help them with their financial situation. What kind of message is he sending to his own grown children, as well as mine, who keep asking for money. May answer to them has been “support yourself”. I guess using Mr. Deal’s line of reasoning, I am not a caring parent!

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There has got to be more to this story. These things just aren’t adding up. Come back Karen!

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td:

Let’s also get something else straight. Barnes did not “cost the state millions because he sued it to allow illegals and convicted felons access to the voting booth.” The republican legislature who passed the Voter ID law did. You see, there were initially two companion suits filed: one at the federal level and one at the state level (Barnes’ suit). The federal court first ruled that the law was basically a “poll tax”…you know those laws that kept black people from voting pre-Civil Rights era? So Georgia spent millions (at the beginning of the recession), under the direction of Karen Handel and others, making sure that Voter IDs would not cost anything and making sure that every single voter was informed about the need for Voter ID. Then the federal court let the system stand after the state made huge modifications to the law.

Barnes sued under the state constitution and other laws at the same time, trying to protect LEGAL voters’ right to vote, NOT trying to help illegals vote.

Someone has made a good point about this BS theory of “helping illegals vote”: why would an illegal do anything to make state authorities check his citizenship?

Finally, you republicans are into vote control: for example: DIEBOLD voting machines with no paper record; no paper record for the voter to verify that his/her vote was cast properly; cake-walk absentee voting that requires NO Voter ID.

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Nathan Deal. Just too dishonest for Georgia.

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Jonathan, just wait until we run out of water in a few years, courtesy of the Do-Nothing Republicans. Even the chickens will be trying to leave. They’re smarter than the Deal supporters.

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The Tea Party person must just be someone playing right?

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Tea Partier & Proud of It

September 17th, 2010
1:59 pm

Isn’t part of being a conservative is to be financially conservative? This man has bitten off more than he could chew and you have the gall to call him a TRUE conservative?

It’s amazing to see a man who borrowed money (way more than he makes), complain about the Obama administration spending money it doesn’t have and borrowing money from grandchildren? Then his supporters have the audacity to call him a TRUE conservative.

These are the same people who blame the working poor for buying houses “they couldn’t afford”; for the housing market collapse.

You Deal supporters are the epitome of Hypocrites.

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How quickly we forget….After King Roy lost the election to Gov. Perdue, he emptied the state treasury so that the incoming Reps would be left behind the eight ball right off the bat. I don’t consider that financial responsibility. That was taxpayer money that was squandered by King Roy. Don’t piss off Roy.

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Yes, I am in the hole for 2 million. Or 3 million. Or 4 million. Or some millions. It just slipped my mind. I forgot. Beg pardon. But, vote for me anyhow. You don’t want some feller who will make drugs legal. Or some carpet-bagging uneducated barren woman. Or some feller who was born in Kenya. Sure, I stole — but I stole for you. I promise to bring back double-dipped chocolate peanuts at the Sears & Roebuck candy counter.

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Has anyone heard more from the Grand Jury Investigating Deal’s Salvage Business, But Don’t You Dare Suggest It’s About Him Or You’ll Hear From His Lawyers?

Man, if they come back with an indictment, it’ll add yet another ring to this circus.

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If this man is going to run for the states highest office why in the HELL would he get into this co-sign deal family or not without checking into it. Thats alot of money. Will he make these kind of poor decisions as our govenor? I’m independant and was leaning toward voting for him. However now I just don’t know.

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Nathan took afew seconds and simply said Jesus is and has been my savior most of his life.”I was blessed with a christain mother and dad who instilled in me at an early age that without faith in him nothing we do on this earth will get us to heaven”.He continued,not with a bragging spirit but one of humility.When he finished most of these big ole south ga sheriff’s either had shed a tear or where alittle misty eyed.If this man is not sincere in his belief,don’t any of you worry God WILL deal with Mr. Deal.But I know within my own heart that he his a man of integrity,a man who has served the public,and not for his own personnal gain.Those of you who continue to blaspheme one of God’s own,I pitty you.I also hold an elected office and have been a public servant for 35 years and can go to bed at night with a clear consious knowing I’ve done my best to serve those who entrusted me.So just as the bold sheriff asked about Jesus I asked Nathan,”When you go to bed at night,is it with a clear consious and peaceful heart”?Without hesitation he simply replyed yes.I’m sure some will now target me about being a rural bible thumper so go ahead and make my God’s day,for I like my brother in christ Nathan Deal are protected by the blood that washes all our sins away.My country was built on the faith of God and I will defend her till the end and aint no one strong enough to tear us down.I encourage each and everyone to search for truth,for it will prevail.Thanks for your time cause i’m going back to serve YOU.

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Vote this man in so he can steal Georgia’s tax funds as governor to pay off his debt.

Come on guys, don’t we feel bad enough that he had to step down from stealing federal tax funds due to those pesky ethic violations ?

On a serious note, Deal will win the election and Georgia will get exactly what it deserves for doing so, a State that’ll fall deeper into a cesspool.

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td,
The last few businesses to move to GA came b/c Perdue handed them tax revenue as “incentives”. We’re not talking about a few % off of state income taxes (which wouldn’t matter since they have no net income right now)…NCR actually collects payroll taxes of its employees and keeps them for itself. For NCR that was $130M over ~5yrs. That’s nearly 50% of their annual net income. Also don’t forget the CEO couldn’t be bothered to move down to low tax GA and prefers to stay in NYC which has some of the highest state/city taxes in the country.

The only thing Perdue did was start GA down the slippery slope where Texas/Florida beat us into submission w/ even bigger tax breaks and more educated workforces. We probably should have forced these CEO’s to sign extra long leases at their new HQ’s since none of them bothered to buy since they’ll move on when the corporate welfare dries up.

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td – early voting for what? Governor? I don’t think so. Do you really think that GA white democrats are liberal? You are advocating for a man so grossly inept and corrupt, that he quit his Congressional job and got duped by his own daughter & son in law. If you were German in Germany, you would support Hitler.

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I voted for Handel.

Elephant Whip – Barnes and Cox put the Deibold voting machines in, no the republicans.

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I was undecided between Karen Handel & Nathan Deal. I voted for Deal, but with this, I can no longer support him as a candidate. Although I applaud that he is not filing bankuptcy, I do not have confidence in a governor who would make subjective business decisions especially regarding his family and their financial needs. What about his children’s responsibility in this? Millions in debt is so overwhelming to me. Where is the sound fiscal judgement we sorely need in our government? How can he stay focused on Georgia’s needs? In the best interests of all he should step down and take care of his family and personal responsibilities. This would show selfless, true integrity.
This does not mean I will vote for Roy Barnes. I can only hope we may have another alternative…

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SEE Sarah Palin/Tea Party ENDORSED Karen Handel… Other people in other STATEs have listened to her… WHY didn’t you people that voted for N. Deal listen to HER????????

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And now that I think about it, how did a Congressman with a salary of less than $200K per year and a retired wife who is paying for 2 Georgia residences (and presumably owned or rented a place in Washington, D.C. as well while he was in Congress) come up with $2 million to put into one speculative investment? Of course, he had the windfall from his sweetheart salvage yard no bid contract with the state, but $2 million still seems like an awful lot of money.

Even if the money other than from the salvage business was legitimately earned and saved over the years, do we want somebody who would risk wiping himself out with one bad investment decision making decisions about how the state of Georgia should spend its tax revenue?

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The way it works in the “real world” is that if you seek employment at one of the Fortune 500 companies they will run a background check and credit report on any potential employee. If the potential employee has bad credit, the potential employee usually DOES NOT GET HIRED.

So, why would the residents of Georgia want to but in office someone as Governor that can’t even handle his own finances??????? People Please Wake Up And Education Yourself Before You Vote !!!! This Dude Definitely Has Questionable Ethics !!!!!

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Paddy O, Read the front page of this news paper. Early voting started today in Cobb and I think Gwinn and will start Monday in Fulton.

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WOW… Michelle Obama didn’t say “It’s hell. I can’t stand” regarding living in the White House??? WHO do WE believe anymore?????

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As a native of Louisiana, this brings back memories of old…….We loved our Edwin Edwards- he liked to party, but this is a very different state (Georgia). Please don’t vote Nathan Deal into office…..Georgia cannot afford to pay for this train wreck and embarassment. Georgia is not a fun state. VOTE “NO” for the clown Deal !!!

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Its pretty obvious Deal has been getting cash income from his scrap yards and probably started this business for a write off and knew it would fail. As another poster said they probably paid family members crazy high salaries and the bank didn’t care because of his political connections.

He is a character straight out of “Man in Full”

Bettcha Deal has assets in other names hidden around Hall county…………

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This guy failed to list millions of dollars of debt on his financial disclosure form. If this was an “oversight” he is incompeting. If it was intentional he is dishonest.

And no, the average Joe doesn’t understand borrowing millions of dollars to support a child and their spouse.

He has been in Washington DC for so long he thinks everybody is a millionaire.

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In case anybody thinks I am sympathetic to the Democrats because I am giving reasons why I think Deal is probably a crook, Deal isn’t the only politician who has magically had fantastic returns in real estate over the last 7-8 years while most everybody else has taken a big hit. I don’t like crooks of either party.

Outgoing Senator Chris Dodd (D, Connecticut) has benefitted from a sweetheart real estate purchase that sounds a lot like Deal’s Gainesville purchase to me.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124545642440632999.html

“Now the Irish cottage on 10 scenic acres is bringing more trouble. At the start of the Irish real estate boom in 1994, Mr. Dodd bought the property with William Kessinger for $160,000. Mr. Kessinger has been a business partner of Edward Downe, who is a longtime friend of Mr. Dodd’s. In 1986 Messrs. Dodd and Downe owned a condominium together in Washington. In 1993 Mr. Downe pleaded guilty to insider trading and securities fraud and in 2001, as Bill Clinton was preparing to leave the White House, Mr. Dodd successfully lobbied to get his friend a pardon.

The following year, 2002, Mr. Dodd bought out Mr. Kessinger’s two-thirds share in the house and became the full owner. Mr. Dodd reported to the Irish government that he paid Mr. Kessinger $122,351, and Mr. Dodd says that a bank appraisal that same year valued the property at $190,000. From 2002 to 2007 Mr. Dodd reported its worth at between $100,001 and $250,000 on his annual Senate financial disclosure form.

But Hartford Courant columnist Kevin Rennie began digging this year into the mismatch between what Mr. Dodd paid to Mr. Downe’s business partner to become a full owner and what the property in Ireland was likely worth in 2002 amid the Irish land boom. Last week, when Mr. Dodd filed his annual financial disclosure form, it included a new appraisal from the same appraiser putting the current value of the house at $658,000.”

Something tells me the Wall Street Journal editorial page will be less interested in Deal’s sweetheart real estate purchase than they are in Dodd’s.

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I see nothing wrong with what Barnes supposedly “did” to the teachers. If you are not a good employee, teacher, state worker, garbage man, then why should you be allowed to keep your position. Isn’t that what he was trying to do, cut out their tenure. And as far as the flag, GET OVER IT! It’s said and done, and no governor in their right mind would tackle that issue again.
After all, those two things did cost Governor Barnes his job. And then look what we got, Eight years on a downhill slide.

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I say agin, Barnes took the flag that pissed off a bunch of white people and to make up for it, he voted against MLK’s holiday which pissed off a lot of black people. People, this is the way a lawer works his Bullsh-t ways! Put a rich man in office and he and all his rich friends will get richer. Put a poor man in office and he will help the poor people

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well thank you Elephant Whip

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Elephant Whip, Judge shopping. Why was the lawsuit brought in Rome instead of Atlanta? Cox and Perdue said this is not the perfect bill but we can live with the changes made by the most liberal federal judge in the state. Why did Barnes come out after the federal agreement and still say that the bill would still suppress the black vote and the only solution would be to remove the entire bill?

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Elephant Whip, “All tenure means is that the teacher was one step above an “at-will” employee and the school had to show why it was firing the teacher.

Given the extremely political nature of teaching/education, it was designed to protect a teacher from the whims of an administrator who did not like the way the teacher taught US government or literature. With tenure, the administrator would have to show evidence that the teacher was ineffective, not simply fire the teacher because the administrator did not like the teacher’s politics/religion/scientific theories/gender.”

Now we agree on something, so why did Roy try to take this away from teachers?

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NO NATHAN, it means we need a Governor to get us out of this mess, not one that can’t make good business decisions and tries to cover up his financial issues!!

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Peachy, The teachers and the flaggers were not mad because of what Roy did they were mad because he stood before them and told them he was not going to do what he ended up doing. That is called a bold face lie and is the reason so many went to the polls to vote him out of office. He has now went before the teachers and told them no more furlough, I will give you a 6% raise every year and will re instate all of the state money for your special certifications. These promises will cost between 1 and 3 billion dollars. How is he going to pay for it? Do you think the citizens (Republican controlled legislature) is going to raise our taxes this much so he can keep these promises and do you think he already knows this? I can hear him now say that I tried to keep my promises but the republicans did not let me. It is just another bold face lie he is telling to get elected. Now where is the integrity in this?

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Paddy O, I agree with you 100%. I think we should shut school down one Friday, leave the polls open all weekend and that is when you vote. No absentee voting(exception military) and no early voting. If you can not make it to the polling place, show id and vote then you do not deserve to vote.

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@td – You say your family came to Georgia in the 1840’s; from your posts I would suggest that y’all start dating outside the family!

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no where near: and what about Deal changing parties, thats not flip flopping,

both Deal and Barnes are not ideal for sure but Deal has crossed the line with his behaviour

we should call him ‘Nathan Steal”

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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ I going to the Football Blog where the action really is! As long as the Democrats are in charge, there will be no chance to get the sorry ass people in this country to even try to get a job even if there was one. Set on your porch and drink something from a bottle wrapped in a paper bag. Oh, I will just have four more babies by three different fathers and I will be set up for the next 18 years!

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Did the bank that made the original loan get bailed out by the government? Where did all that money go? This thing smells all over.

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“The loans he co-signed on an outdoor store were made to support his daughter and her husband,”

And he couldn’t see after the 2nd or 3rd loan that good money was just being thrown after bad? I mean that is the whole reason Community Bank & Trust was shut down was due to unethical lending practices. And I quote the AJC’s own article:

“it became apparent that the bank lacked management depth.” The inspector general’s report knocked Community Bank for lacking internal controls over its lending operations, “which likely contributed to inappropriate lending activities that were associated with substantial losses.”

http://www.ajc.com/business/cornelia-bank-doomed-by-608537.html

So the man that wants to govern Georgia couldn’t even see the Bank he was dealing with was suspect. I could go on and on about the crazy spin he’s put in that statement, but I was just wanting to make a point and remind everyone what his platform is……”FISCAL CONSERVATIVE”

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Nathan Deal crookeder than the crookedess snake in Hall county………and thats crooked………….

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First Mr Deal is under investigation for ethics, then he was supposed to be a power businessman but come to find out he is broke and a bad businessman. Putting this guy in charge would be the worst thing we could do to our troubled state.

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He should have been honest about all of this in the beginning, now who will trust him.

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Deal is letting his daughter take the full blame for a decision in which he had great input. Many investor/parents make poor decisions but all good ones will take their fair share of the consequences and shield the children by bearing some of the blame. This guy just hung his poor daughter out to dry by saying over and over it was all her’s.

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What Mr. Barnes “supposedly” did to teachers has been blown way out of proportion. Even when he ran against Perdue, much of what was said was half truths political jargon promoted by the Republicans. Over time, his “sins” have grown just like a game of gossip without evidence to back them up. Yes, he wasn’t a sweetheart to teachers, but he was much better than what we’ve seen the last 8 years.

There is a republican agenda to destroy the public schools, and if Deal signed his allegiance to this party, then this is his agenda, also. If voters mistakenly think that Mr. Barnes was bad for education, with Deal, the worst is yet to come.

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I was in Congress with Nathan Deal before I ran for Gov of Illinois. I feel your pain too – Blago (former Rep and Gov).

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Did he disclose any of these loans on his financial reports? No? I didn’t think so! And you say you trust him?

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Jonathan – you research that yourself? The key question is budget deficits – NJ, NY, MI, CA, have HUGE deficits that Obummer helped plug & prevent the government unions from suffering wage loss/layoffs.

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No damn way we’re gonna let Deal win, then resign so that the other ‘chicken-man’ take over…God knows we’ve had enough of that kind of ‘goober’ leadership. Deal will have to have been sworn in beforehand and we’ll be sure to have the peckerwood in jail before that.

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Deal would better serve the folks in GA who still support him by releasing all his tax returns. He obviously cannot pay back his loans on his current salary. I don’t want to vote for someone that declares bankruptcy while in office. You just have to wonder what else he is hiding.

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Deal finagles around things, hides; sometimes, apparently, lies; he claims an openness that he doesn’t give. He didn’t disclose what he was supposed to disclose when he was in the House and he has hidden information he should have disclosed as he was running for governor.

I voted for Handle. I can’t vote for this guy. Barnes was no worse than Sonny and probably no better. But, I am voting for him.

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GOP idiots – I doubt Palin would do as many stupid things as Obozo/Obummer. At least she has some executive position experience. Obozo has spent ooodles of $$ – how much in your hometown?

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I pay 12k a year property tax on a 2400 sq ft house in Buckhead, guess I could pay 2k a year and live in a 8000 sq ft house in Hall county but them my kids would go to the same schools as the dumbasses that vote for Deal and grow up retarded so I am happy to pay more property tax.

As an FYI many financial books recomend living in areas with high property taxes as you generally get better schools and services. For example MA and CT.

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Jonathan – i think you aptly prove your stupidity. Buckhead is actually Atlanta – now, your wages are going to look higher because of the NEED TO PAY more for the higher cost of living – essentially, you have to bribed to live there. And, what services are you talking about? Almost all small towns (even as small as 3000 people – where there is NO congestion, NO crime, NO pollution/smog) – have standard services – water, sewer, recreation – what other elitest “services” are you demanding? The school system in Haralson County produces lawyers & doctors – how much higher quality of school system do you desire? Your arrogance is reflected in your President, as is the elitism. Your county/city has a very high rate of crime – mostly murder – is that an element that drew you to the location? Do you enjoy the traffic congestion? The inability to operate a good sanitary sewer system? The pollution? I am not enticed by these things, nor the need to throw away $12,000 on precisely what expanded services? Grady hospital? MARTA transit? I like living next to a horse farm with few neighbors.

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Jonny boy – you expect in the middle of a war – which was prompted by the feckless Bill Clinton – who also like to kiss ass to the inferior people of the globe – such as China & APEC – that the economy would boom? What is your opnion of Obummer sending young men to die in Afghanistan?

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Sorry I have not been here to defend you Patty O but it sounds like you are exposing Johnathan for what he really is (a progressive socialist) that would not vote for Deal or any other conservative in a million years and only cares about taking your hard earned money to redistribute it to the non producers in our economy.

BTW: Johnathan, I will put the students in East Cobb, North Fulton and Forsyth county, Marist, West Minister, GAC up against any students in the country and I bet their scores are just as good.

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Everyone here is making GREAT ARGUMENTS against both parties. Now lets give it back to them. Lets all figure out a way to prevent them from back room deals. Call for the charge. Lead. Call your House Chamber leaders. Have it put to a vote that no backroom deals go to Nathan Deal or any other likewise candidate except the salary he makes as governor. Don’t let him or any other win and sit in that office and shame it any more. Tell your leaders you want to put a legislation bill in November that prevents this from happening. Do it folks. Its your state. Its your country. Take it back. You have more power than you think. There is 4 mill in this state. There is 200 of them plus one governor. Are YOU gonna let 201 people dictate what they are gonna be allowed to do. Start utilizing the services you have. By the way you might want to check out THE POSTMAN movie with Kevin Costner. We are fast heading there…….END DE TYRANNY and OPPRESSION!

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td – I voted for Chapman & Handel – would have voted for Eric Johnson. Deal & Ox were just to bloody crooked. I also remember the old democrats of Murphy & Barnes – they ARE NOT liberals like Obozo, so that argument goes out the window – last time around I would have voted for Cathy Cox (old SOS), but never for Taylor. I always thought Perdue never expected to win and was way in over his head. Jonathan though is a liberal elitest shallow snob.

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also Jonathan – a lot of the $$ folk live there because they really like to have their butts kissed, and the working class in ATL do a great job of that.

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Please tell us what super services you receive for your $12,000?

Also, please tell us when your kids heart beat started when they were in the womb.

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your assumptions about me based on my comments are also grossly wrong – so, should we assume a lot of your other statement are also erroneous?

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Well things like Marta, sidewalks, streetlamps, parks, worldclass resturants and arts all within walking distance are good. So is one of the few decent schools in the state. I seriuosly think we save a lot of money just by not having to drive 20 miles to get anywhere and am healthier for walking. When I fly I pay $5 on the Marta, friends pay $15 a day to park or $100 for a cab as they don’t live near a station.

Just so you know I don’t enjoy paying taxes and think they should be equalized throughout the state.

When you think about it a great proportion of Atlantas problems with congestion and polution are caused by people commuting into the area anyway.

I do agree with you about the SAT.
Anyway we are way off topic this is about Deal and he is a disgrace to the GOP and GA.

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the same can be said about all urbanized areas – taxes do not go down as you would think with the increase of population density. thus, growth is very, very bad. I don’t miss all those things you mentioned – so, my place is better for me & cheaper (far more economical). ATL has too much pollution, congestion & fatal crimes – as most urban places do. Regarding high flying states & their dem governors – look at California, plus NJ has a repub gov & has had frequently in the last 40 years.

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Paddy O, Off the subject, but I agree with you that as long as states are going to be compared on the basis of SAT scores, students not going to college or technical school (any higher education) should not take the SAT or ACT, but school systems have no control over who takes these test. Students register on line, and school systems cannot control who signs up. Sorry. We have to take what we get.

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Lynn – somebody MUST urge the kids at their school to take the test – do you know what % of graduates take the test every year? You seem to have some good information!

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Barnes is the same type of liberal that Obama is. I worked for the state during his first term in office and I can tell you he placed the same type of people to run the agencies as Obama does now. BTW: Sonny’s appointments were not much better (like I have said before RINO). Deal may or may not be a disgrace but he still is better than Barnes.

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Nathan Deal is a good man and is most likely and honourable man for wanting to pay his debts and not filing bankrupcy. I have empathy for Nathan Deal as we have all had financial difficulty. However, when I myself had financial difficulty in my life I was not focused and I did not make wise decisions. Praise God, my family go thru that time. However, having known what it is like to have the pressure of overwhelming debt, how in the world can Mr. Deal be focused on the things that are most important to Georgians like reducing unemployment and reducing our debt. Unfortunately, Nathan Deal is not ready to be governor. He needs to put his focus on getting his financial house in order. The he can focus our fixing the problems in our state.

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I don’t know percentages taking these tests, and each county will be different. This test is open to junior and senior students at the same sitting, and no distinction (in reporting) is made between the two groups. Most students also take them more than once as they are offered several times a year. Statewide (I think) over 63,000 took it last year. One state (our West) only had 50 students take the SAT year before last.

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they still offer a PSAT?

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Deal is going to be too worried about figuring out his personal issues and repaying his debts than trying to figure out how to fix the problems in our state. If you vote for Deal you are shooting yourself in the foot and if you are voting for Deal ONLY because he is a Republican and you can never vote for an “evil Democrat” than you are just an idiot and are abusing your voting rights. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT BARNES DID THAT WAS SO HORRIBLE? ONE OF YOU HATERS PLEASE ANSWER BC ALL OF YOU AVOID THIS QUESTION.

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MG..they can’t answer. Facts don’t matter among some folks.
Nathan Deal is running and hoping to be elected so he can create his own TARP fund. He has probably conferred with Paulson and the previous President to see how this is done. Bailouts for me but not for thee.

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True Republican: No one has disputed the loan ratio to his salvage business. Its the fact he did not disclose it that is the issue as you well know.

Please stop trying to muddy the waters the issue is very clear to eveyone.

Why don’t you tell us about the other loans he is foreclosing on? I would love to hear the good business sense in the hunting store loan. Also how he qualified for it aswell? Also how Deals part in helping a bank close down costing the state 135 million dollars is good for business?

While your at it please tell all the Republicans who voted for Handle why this wasn’t disclosed before the run off?

Also as a business man please tell me if you would let Deal manage your business and sleep well at night?

By your posting you seem smart enough to know that Deal is a crook you just don’t seem ready to face the fact…………..

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They folks you need to stop talking about Middle and South Georgia. According to the Mason Dixon poll, it looks like they learned their lesson from electing Sonny and they are NOT supporting Deal. Deal’s support is primarily in North Georgia, Cobb and Gwinnett. South of I-20, Deal is being treated like dead meat.

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Some people use big words but do not know what they mean. Economics is the social science that analyzes the production, distribution, and consumption of goods and services. Bankers are financial intermediary that accepts deposits and channels those deposits into lending activities. Some economist work for banks to follow investment and market trends, but no bankers work for economists.

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Most of the Georgia banks, located in mostly conservative areas, closed by FDIC have been bought by out-of-state banks. Why? It looks like their state legislators did not use them as their own private piggy-banks as much as Georgia.

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Nathan Deal should withdraw from the race for governor and give his Republican nomination to Karen Handel. While I would have an extremely difficult time voting for anyone that aligns themselves with Sarah Palin, it is the right thing to do for the Republican party and the state of Georgia. Nathan Deal needs to do the right thing.

While not debating the reasons or sanity for all of the loans Nathan Deal is on the hook for, there is no debate that the weight of his financial burden will keep him from solely concentrating on the business of running the state. People facing such daunting financial crisis often can’t eat, can’t sleep, can’t focus and are sick to their stomach trying to figure a way out of their mess. Nathan Deal needs to be spending every waking hour working in his private business trying to figure a way to make enough money to avoid bankruptcy. There is no way that Nathan Deal can deal with his personal financial issues while giving the State of Georgia the attention we deserve.

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If Deal was a real man he would just withdraw and let Karen Handel run so that the GOP does not get obliterated, leaving us with bigmout Roy Barrnes for the next four years.

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[...] dollar loan for his business. Somehow Grandpa is spinning all these loans and failures as he “feels the pain of average Georgians”. What average Georgians? I don’t know many people who can pick up the phone and get a $2.3 [...]

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