Old enough to fight, old enough to drink: Jack Kingston wants on-base imbibing-age lowered
When Congress finishes its August hiatus, look for U.S. Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Savannah, to take up an argument that will be achingly familiar to anyone who lived through the Vietnam years.
U.S. Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Savannah. Cox News.
He’s got legislation that would allow 18-year-old members of the U.S. military to purchase and consume wine and beer while on base.
The legislation was dropped last month, just as House members walked out the door.
From the Beaufort, S.C., Gazette:
Purchases of beer and wine at base exchanges and convenience stores still would be prohibited, according to the bill.
Kingston, whose congressional district includes Savannah, believes someone mature enough to fight for the country in a time of war is mature enough to have a beer, said his spokesman, Chris Crawford.
“If we’re asking someone to risk their lives in defense of this country and they’re responsible enough for that, we ought to have enough faith in them to have a beer,” Crawford said. “By restricting it to on-post establishments and not allowing them to purchase alcohol intended to be consumed elsewhere, the bill would not impact local and state regulations. It also keeps the alcohol consumption from getting out of control as they would be in establishments with superior officers.”
The bill was referred to the House Armed Services Committee. It is co-sponsored by Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss…..
Not everyone agrees with the bill.
U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., said lowering the drinking age for active-duty servicemembers could lead to alcohol abuse across the nation’s armed services.
“I normally see eye-to-eye with Jack Kingston on just about everything, but I would oppose that particular piece of legislation,” Wilson said.
Wilson, whose congressional district includes Beaufort County, is the ranking Republican member on the House Armed Services Committee.
Hard liquor would remain off-limits until a service member is 21.
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79 comments Add your comment
Rickster
August 30th, 2010
4:05 pm
Joe Wilson had it right when he told Obama “You Lie” during his State of the Union speech. He has it wrong on this one.
DannyX
August 30th, 2010
4:07 pm
“He’s got legislation that would allow 18-year-old members of the U.S. military to purchase and consume wine and beer while on base.”
That doesn’t go far enough. If the Georgia Bulldogs are ever going to be competitive, this needs to be expanded to also allow 18 year old football players to consume wine and beer while on campus. The team is losing all its good players to suspensions and expulsions.
Jefferson Jackson
August 30th, 2010
4:22 pm
We had state wide drinking for 18 year olds back in the earlty seventies, a result of the large number if Viet-Nam war vets who wanted to drink a beer in peace. I thought it worked reasonably well, and I still believe it would if Americans took the same attitude about drinking as Europeans do. They drink to enjoy themselves, not to get drunk. Fifteen year olds drink beer publically (and legally) in Germany, but you rarely see a drunk over there. Unless it’s a drunk American. You see a lot of them.
Jane
August 30th, 2010
4:25 pm
This fairly common sense especially if it only applied to soldiers on base.
Retired Soldier
August 30th, 2010
4:26 pm
Good for Kingston, let the troops have a beer.
Mr. KnowitAll
August 30th, 2010
4:27 pm
We should grant them on-base, small piece of solace to our dedicated servicemen.
ga female
August 30th, 2010
4:36 pm
It is absolutely absurd that the drinking age was raised to 21. I grew up where it was 18. If you are old enough to Vote, you should be old enough to drink, not only beer, wine but liquor. This should apply to everyone.
But to stop the high school drop out problem, the high school drop out age should be raised to 18, or the completion of the minimum requirements for graduation. You can’t drink until you graduate from High School.
Retired Soldier
August 30th, 2010
4:39 pm
I like that idea ga female.
Jon
August 30th, 2010
4:59 pm
Sounds like a simple way to get enlistment up…
JesusFreak
August 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
@Jefferson Jackson, you are mistaken by this common myth. In reality, the drinking problem in Europe is rather large, not what most Americans think. They idealize the situation there because, yes, 15 year olds do in fact drink alcohol legally. What they are not aware of is the impact on their society that this early drinking as well as binge drinking has. The cost to society is enormous, not only in vandalism, but vehicular accidents, injuries and fatalities. Not to mention the effect it has on young, still-developing brains. Enough research data is available that supports the nefarious and deleterious effect of alcohol on teens. European countries have worse problems than America does, as far as binge drinking and drinking to intoxication. Studies show that Europe has more underage drunkenness, injury, rape, and school problems due to alcohol. Since alcohol is more available there, it actually increases the proportion of kids who drink in Europe. Too bad some people need alcohol in order to relax, or have fun. They seem to need it like oxygen and this is a sad thing to encourage. Our troops are already in harm’s way, why add to their problems by having them return home with an increased rate of alcoholism or cirrhosis of the liver? People, give alcohol the boot before it kicks you in the rear. Believe it or not, you CAN relax, and have a great time without artificial stimulants (yes, I realize alcohol is derived naturally but that’s a question of semantics. The truth is if you’re not relaxed or having fun to begin with, then adding alcohol into the mix just increases your risk factors, with acting stupid the least of them. If you don’t think you are, it’s because alcohol inhibits your perception of reality and you’re no longer aware of how loud and embarrassing you have become following one or two (or more) drinks. Sorry to be the one to be honest enough about this, most people won’t tell it like it is.
Commonsenseagitator
August 30th, 2010
5:29 pm
Since it was Reagan who forced the states to raise the drinking age including military members I wonder how they’re going to blame Obama for this one?
Art
August 30th, 2010
5:30 pm
Old enough to vote, old enough to take a bullet for our country, old enough to have a drink… It should never have been changed from 18…
mike
August 30th, 2010
8:12 pm
Drinking age is nice, but how about doing with the medical care for those returning injured vets. How about doing something for those families whose soldiers are on long tours. Does this man own a beer store near the post??
JL
August 30th, 2010
8:32 pm
Before President Reagan changed the law, soldiers could buy alcohol at 18 on military bases whether or not state law was different. Since my father was retired, I could shop on base and also buy alcohol when I reached 18. That was in ‘67. Although many folks befriended me because of that, it really wasn’t worth it. Most states changed the law to allow those 18 to purchase alcohol in the early seventies and the results were not good. It’s true that some at eighteen are mature and ready to accept the responsibility but most are not. You can argue whether or not we need additional regulation but how many drunks and victims do you want on the side of the rode?
Reagan was wrong
August 30th, 2010
9:20 pm
I’d like to see them change the age for everything to 18. Lower the drinking age, raise the driving age.
george
August 30th, 2010
9:58 pm
my representative, by about 2 blocks, is a former closing attorney and reserve jag lawyer joe wilson. when he ran against non-veterans he emphasized his military experience. now he is running against a marine combat veteran as i am. it is absurd to deny serving military the right to consume alcohol on base. i served with and was led by both drinking and non-drinking noncoms and officers both here and in nam. wilson’s opposition just shows how out of touch he is with real veterans, not paper pushing glorified draft evaders. of course he also voted to keep my ancestors and his absurd naval ensign flying over our state house. he is a proud member of the gingrich school of hypocritical lunacy.
Jenny Lee
August 30th, 2010
10:05 pm
It is that way in Korea… the 21 year olds buy for the younger soldiers.
Willie
August 30th, 2010
10:35 pm
If, you are old enough, to fight and die for your country. YOU SHOULD BE OLD ENOUGH TO DRINK, AND BUY LIQUOR, BEER, OR WINE.
Jerome
August 30th, 2010
10:38 pm
Its the right thing to do. A meaningful gesture for people that deserve to be treated like the adults they are for what they give for our country. I think Rep. Kingston should push for them to be allowed to buy alcohol anywhere in America as well being allowed to go to bars or nightclubs as long as they have proper military ID.
Mike
August 30th, 2010
10:56 pm
These politicians are constantly being asked their position on a particular subject, and then they answer with their position. Their answer should always be, “I will represent the majority of the will of my constituents.”
Geesh!
Craig
August 30th, 2010
10:58 pm
All 18 year olds should be able to drink. It’s part of the college experience. How can you sing as part of your school song “I drink my whiskey clear” when you can’t until you’re a senoir???
Hickster
August 30th, 2010
11:02 pm
omg…the first poster Rickster? Is he a retard? Take your sorry a$$ out to the battlefield instead of sitting behind this blog “typing”…let’s see YOU dodge bullitts!! and THEN be denied a drink at the bar!!!
G-Lion
August 30th, 2010
11:03 pm
If you are old enough to volunteer to get your azz shot off then you are old enough to have a drink. If, as a society, we have determined that 18 is old enough to make an informed decision regarding military service, then that person is (having volunteered his/her services to our country) duly qualified to make a decision – informed or otherwise – about drinking alcohol.
budman
August 30th, 2010
11:12 pm
For all the ” wanna bees ” in this country; In a combat zone pleasures are far and few in-between. To have a cigarette ( no!! I gave it up long ago ) , maybe a cold beer with your men ( all right!! some women ) is the only good stuff, that reminds you of home, in the hell of a combat zone. For the experts: this media based country produces, they are all so smart about what the solider needs, where he goes, how he thinks, what he needs in the future…its all horse dung!! they don’t know they have never been in a combat zone…Its like a virgin giving you bedroom advice..Yea ! Right
civi dawg
August 30th, 2010
11:23 pm
I was forced to discipline a 20 year old soldier for getting caught drinking at barracks after returning from a year long tour in Sadr City. It seems a lot of politicians feel that the military should be ’seen and not heard’. Alcohol and militaries have been entwined since the beginning of recorded history and, right or wrong, alcohol is a part of the military tradition. Our young men are old enough to bleed and die for this country; they should be old enough to drink in public without fear of punishment in this country.
Jason
August 30th, 2010
11:26 pm
Did anyone think to ask the military itself about this issue? Members of Congress are continually micromanaging our Armed Forces. Usually it is in the form of weapons programs that the military says it doesn’t need but are important to a special interest group of the member of Congress.
As others have stated, it was during the Reagan administration that the drinking age was raised to 21 for members of military. Perhaps they’d like it lowered back to 18, perhaps not. I’d feel better if the military was given a chance to decide either way instead of it being a Congressional mandate. Who knows, given the flexibility, perhaps they’d make it 18 in combat zones but 21 at home. I don’t know what they’d do but would like the option be that of those who work with these young members of the Armed Forces day to day instead of a politician.
Baldemar Huerta
August 30th, 2010
11:28 pm
I’ve got a better idea…Let’s make things consistent, and raise the voting age to 21.
Bobby Anthony
August 30th, 2010
11:31 pm
The age to consume should be 18.
tim
August 30th, 2010
11:42 pm
Last time I checked; the military was a job you applied for. Why should government workers get special priviledges?
SWH
August 30th, 2010
11:45 pm
For all the obvious reasons mentioned and probably hundreds more, this is th rightthing to do. Treating 20 year olds, much less soilders, like children is what’s wrong with this “nanny” country. No wonder 20-somethings are regressing.
Too bad Jack Kingston didn’t run for governor instead of Nathan Deal.
budman
August 30th, 2010
11:47 pm
BTW, who exactly votes in this country?? I thought it was just old geezers like me. I can not blame the younger citizens not having much of a choice or anyone they feel they can trust.
tim
August 30th, 2010
11:47 pm
If that’s the case, it should be 18 for eveybody and not just overpaid government workers.
Reason has left the building.
August 30th, 2010
11:57 pm
JesusFreak – Guess what! Jesus..DRANK ALCOHOL! He even turned water into alcohol so OTHER PEOPLE could drink it.
I hate to disillusion you (well, no I actually take great pleasure in it) but alcohol is quite possibly one of the most important substances in human history. Its presence has been identified back at LEAST as far as 10,000 BC (Please don’t have some kind of Young Earther stroke, Jesus Freak – I know the whole “the earth is older than 6000 years old” concept freaks people like you out), and given the simple chemistry of fermentation, it’s likely that unintentional alcohol existed well before that. Alcoholic beverages like wheat-heavy beers served as food sources. Alcohol has served as religious sacrament (again, please see the whole wine thing. Hint: Southern Baptists are wrong about the whole grape juice thing), peace-making beverage, celebratory drink…etc. etc. etc.
Just because you’ve been brainwashed by other “Jesus Freaks” doesn’t change the very POSITIVE role that alcoholic beverages have served throughout the history of mankind.
And seriously – when you call alcohol a STIMULANT, you show just what an idiot you really are. Alcohol is properly defined as a DEPRESSANT. And just for the record, both stimulant and depressant refer to the effects of a substance on the central nervous system – it doesn’t mean that alcohol makes you “depressed”.
budman
August 31st, 2010
12:04 am
Tim, I love my government worker wife!!. She makes a lot of money, but has the certifications and the education to justifie it . Government workers get all of their tax dollars back through out the year and a lot of yours. The smart, young and educated professionals that work around my wife know one thing you don’t !!, you can’t beat them ( US Gov.) so why not join them..think-about it.
Donna Wright
August 31st, 2010
12:11 am
Jesus Freak is correct. If you think Europe doesn’t have an alcohol problem since young people can drink legally, you are mistaken. If all people drank was the little bit (at communion or other times) there would be no DUI. The Bible does speak against drunkenness by the way. This is particularly a problem when people begin to drive since they are unable many times to tell they are impaired. It is addictive and the reason anyone came up with limiting the age in the first place was to try to help, not harm people.
atlmom
August 31st, 2010
12:51 am
@Mike: you are totally and completely incorrect. If we did that, we would have a democracy, and the founding fathers thought that was a terrible idea. We are a republic. We elect people to positions and they are to make decisions, because (supposedly) they have all the information and facts before them.
atlmom
August 31st, 2010
12:52 am
seriously – raise the driving age to 25, and the voting age to 25. Then lower the drinking age to 18.
barking frog
August 31st, 2010
6:22 am
Let’s tie the drinking age to the fighting age,
Can’t fight-Can’t drink. Can’t drink-Can’t fight
shaggy
August 31st, 2010
7:01 am
Sarge: “Here Sonny, take this assault rifle, courtesy of Uncle Sam, and blast that taliban into oblivion. This is a dangerous job and some of you MEN won’t be coming back. I’ll have the Captain write your family if that happens, and he’ll tell them you MEN died protecting their freedom.”
Sonny asks: “Hey Sarge, since I’m probably gonna die anyway, can I go get me one of those 3.2 beers? I sure would like to be free to drink one”
Sarge: “You ain’t old enough, your just 19. If you touch one of those evil beers, I will personally lock your cell in the brig.”
Sonny: “Yes Sir, I get it. I am old enough die for freedom, but I ain’t old enough have freedom myself.”
Sarge: “That’s it Sonny. Now go up there on that front line and mix it up with the taliban. What is getting into the youth of today, thinking they don’t have any responsibilities?”
outspoken1
August 31st, 2010
7:08 am
give the MAN a beer, and a hotdog!
outspoken1
August 31st, 2010
7:12 am
“seriously – raise the driving age to 25, and the voting age to 25. Then lower the drinking age to 18.”
atlmom, are you crazy?
and I guess you would raise the legal breast feeding age for boys to say maybe, let’s see around 22?????
you are a sicko, mommy wants to keep lil Bradley at home and away from all those nasty lil girls…….gimme a break!
TnGelding
August 31st, 2010
7:16 am
I’d rather change the minimum age to join the armed services to 21. We’ve sacrificed enough boys to the war gods.
J. Davis
August 31st, 2010
7:22 am
I usually agree with Rep. Kingston, but he is wrong on this one. There is no such thing as someone “mature enough to drink.” Just because you can train a young man to kill what makes one think he is “responsible” enough to handle alcholic beverages. Let’s be reasonable, the drinking age should be when a person retires, that way they can be confined to their residence and not be annoying and dangerous to the rest of the community.
Lee
August 31st, 2010
7:25 am
To “reason has left the building”…………..show us your evidence. Who told you Jesus drink alcohol? You are just another uneducated fool who makes up Bible stories to justify his own wrong doing.
The truth
August 31st, 2010
7:35 am
Kingston think they should also be allowed to run for his Job? I wonder what beer supplier got in his ear, and with what? Oh, and I had a beer at 18 on base so don’t even go there.
Michael
August 31st, 2010
7:37 am
Why is booze illegal anyway? How can the government regulate a plant that grows in your yard and say you can’t smoke it? If pleasuring yourself is illegal then we are all guilty. I’m sure the Baptists are working on that legislation, too.
Douglas
August 31st, 2010
7:49 am
It is outrageous that a member of the US military cannot drink a beer either on base, or off base. Restricting legal access until someone is 21 only leads to illegal access – the law should be changed for all of society, not just the military,
Corey
August 31st, 2010
8:04 am
Up until the seventies 18 year olds couldn’t vote, but they could fight and die for thier country. Imagine that? I remember the arguments coming from the right against extending voting rights to 18 year olds. Conservatives always come down on the wrong side of history no matter the issue.
Really?....
August 31st, 2010
8:21 am
We all drink before 21 anyways.
Greg
August 31st, 2010
8:26 am
Lee,
The Last Supper. “Eat this bread and drink this cup.” Jesus drank wine. He was cool with it. Just not drinking in excess. Throughout the Bible, there’s plenty of references that say drinking is OK, just in moderation. Over-indulgence of anything is frowned upon.
“Wine is praised; it rejoices God and men.” (Judges 9:13)
“it gladdens the heart of men” (Psalms 104:15)
“it gladdens life” (Exodus 10:19)
There’s plenty more…
To Lee
August 31st, 2010
8:26 am
” 18For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon.’ 19The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and “sinners.” ‘ But wisdom is proved right by her actions.”"
Thats Matthew
Shell
August 31st, 2010
8:28 am
Lee, the Book says Jesus drank wine.
It does not say nor does it imply that he drank “unfermented grape juice” that was called wine, as the Southern Baptists contend. *Nowhere* in the Good Book does it say you should not drink alcohol. What it does say – as pointed out by an earlier poster – is you should not be a drunk.
In the matter under discussion, I stand with Jack Kingston. I was a soldier from 1981 to 1983. In that time if you held an active-duty military I.D. you could buy alcohol on post or off regardless of your age (in Georgia, at least; I trained at Ft. Benning and was born and raised in Riverdale). To me that is only proper. It is the height of absurdity to tell someone who is willing to take a bullet for his, or her, country that a drink to relax is not on.
Juanita
August 31st, 2010
8:36 am
I think one should not be able to go to Service, especially War Zones until 21!! If they can take a bullet, lose limbs, and sometimes their minds, due to stress, let them have a beer or wine (no hard liquor) at 18. Most 18 year olds have it anyway………..Most importantly, let us try and get our children home safely. I’m sick of the War!!!
Roscoe
August 31st, 2010
8:43 am
Wrong, wrong, wrong. The solution is exactly the opposite. Keep the drinking age at 21, raise the voting age to 21, raise the driving age to 21 and raise the military enlistment age to 21 and require not only a high school diploma, but also an associate’s degree or the equivalent from a technical school if you want to enlist.
The more our soldiers can think and reason, the more likely they are not to do stupid things like they did in the prisons in Iraq. We let them enlist at 18 because it’s easier to train someone to react and not think – which is an essential skill in battle – when they’re young and aren’t accustomed to having to reason out every action. Those two or three more years of training in how to think will accrue to our benefit. We’ll still have plenty of soldiers who can be trained to react effectively in battle. We may also have soldiers with even better ability to understand when an order or an action are immoral and illegal.
jim
August 31st, 2010
8:44 am
Either make it legal for all adults, or illegal for all adults. End age discrimination. Most countries have much more liberal drinking laws and much fewer problems.
John
August 31st, 2010
8:46 am
If you can die for your country, then you should be allowed to have a beer, free and clear.
ya mama
August 31st, 2010
8:51 am
absolutely. Let those who are willing to sacrifice for our country be able to buy themselves a beer. It’s a no brainer.
jconservative
August 31st, 2010
8:59 am
Why don’t we let the base commander decide?
PF
August 31st, 2010
9:00 am
Back in the late 80’s when I was in the Corps, you could buy beer by the glass at the e-club or bowling alley on base. You had to be 21 to buy the hard stuff. If the troops want it, they are going to get it. Believe me, and older buddy will buy a 19 year old a six pack if asked. I liked the controls (don’t know if they are still in place) that 18+ can buy by the glass on base. Having it available only on base keeps some sort of control (most newbies live on base at that age).
deegee
August 31st, 2010
9:06 am
Now that Jesus Christ has been inserted into the debate nothing will be resolved. Aren’t there more compelling issues in Jack Kingston’s district than whether or not an 18 year old soldier that uses his/her freedom of choice to enlist in the service can get a drink? Does Jack really think that the law as it stands prohibits an 18 year old soldier from drinking? Isn’t this a waste of time?
Serendipity
August 31st, 2010
9:07 am
If you one is old enough to carry a gun, or vote, one is old enough to drink PERIOD!!!!
Pappa Grizzly
August 31st, 2010
9:46 am
It’s Obama’s fault. The misguided liberal policies he believes in created this problem. Obama never served so he has no idea about what its like to serve in the military.
Palin on 2012
Atlanta Native
August 31st, 2010
9:51 am
The amusing part is how did we end up with a national drinking age? It was never passed by Congress. I believe any state could change the age now if they want to. How did we get a national drinking age? Remember the state’s rights smaller government intrusion president who is so worshiped? His name was Ronald Reagan. He blackmailed the states into passing the 21 drinking age by withholding all federal highway funds until the states caved in. In other words, he used the power of the federal government to enforce his own social agenda. Remind you of a president we have now?
I am a rather staunch conservative, but I will not join the ranks in lauding Reagan and throwing laurels to hide the reality. He used the federal government to start the “War on Drugs” and federal usurpation of state powers was his tool.
As disgusted as I am with Obama’s policies (Carter the Sequel!), we must remember that both sides wrongly use federal power to force their social agenda on us. Under Reagan Louisiana held out as ling as they could, but gave in as bridges needed repair.
In fact, I have learned from Sean Hannity that most thoughts and words ascribed to Reagan actually came from the conservative think tank the Heritage Institute, which explains the massive disconnect between his speeches and his ab libbed remarks.
Military bases and states should be able to decide their drinking age. Period.
I am a Christian and also think that Sunday liquor sales laws are also foolish. Jesus provided wine for a wedding when it was unavailable and all of the wine on hand had been consumed. Between 52 to 81 cases, in fact, according to the numbers in the KJV. (John chapter 2 verses 6-7) (Thats between 2,400 and 3,800 glasses) And it was the best the guests ever had. So the Son of God made wine as the first miracle (John Chap 2 verse 11). I think our 18 year old soldiers should stand on equal footing with the wedding guests and enjoy a drink if they want it.
lmno
August 31st, 2010
10:16 am
Atlanta Native,
I believe that Reagan also used Federal Highway funding to pressure Alaska into changing its marijuana laws.
Wehrmacher
August 31st, 2010
10:25 am
I have a better idea. Let’s raise the fighting age to 21… or better yet, raise it to 35 more or less where our politicians can get involved.
Atlanta Native
August 31st, 2010
10:25 am
Correct, but I had blathered on enough to add any more.
bart
August 31st, 2010
10:44 am
Drinking alcohol should be legal for everybody at age 18, but certainly for service men and women who are risking their lives everyday.
Rob
August 31st, 2010
10:44 am
JesusFreak – as a Christian I would like to point out to you John 2:1-11. With the wedding reception still in full swing Jesus turns water into wine to keep the evening going smoothly. Even Christ knew there was nothing wrong with enjoying a little alcohol while relaxing with friends.
David Staples
August 31st, 2010
11:06 am
Hey Jim, is there any particular reason the AJC has left John Monds out of it’s candidate information on the main Georgia Politics page? Could you pass the request to add all the Libertarian candidates to the coverage along? Thanks!
Hayseed Dixie
August 31st, 2010
11:18 am
Being a soldier is tough, often thankless, work. It’s sometimes the worst parts of any job- mind numbing, mundane tedium; impenetrable, frustrating bureaucracies and fiefdoms; and then moments of pure, soul shaking terror when things go wrong.
Let those kids have a beer for Christs’ sake.
Bill Orvis White
August 31st, 2010
12:25 pm
I respect our men in uniform and I strongly disagree with so many posters here. The drink is a concoction of the devil. I began drinking early and often and believe me, it’s just plain wrong. I spun my truck out into a Mississippi ditch. After I was hanging in the truck upside down in a drunken stupor and crying, I was saved by a higher power who pulled me out of that wreck. It took me a while after that, but I realized that I needed to be addicted to the word of The Lord Almighty and Jesus. We don’t need more kids on the drink, drugs and our young ladies on The Pill!
Devildog
August 31st, 2010
12:34 pm
Chesty Puller wanted to replace candy and soft drink machines with beer machines in the barracks. We all loved Chesty.
Out motto: I might be too drunk to walk but by God I’ll crawl like a Marine.
seabeau
August 31st, 2010
2:06 pm
Alcohol is the most dangerous drug ever invented by mankind. Outlaw it.
Jenny Lee
August 31st, 2010
2:30 pm
Newt passes out beer to you kids. Firewater can do alot of damage to minors. Soldiers go thru basic deserve any kind of alcohol.
Buck Mulligan
August 31st, 2010
4:06 pm
An Officer Candidate School classmate of mine in the ’60s was a captain before he could legally buy a beer. Cripes, the man could command a rifle company in combat but couldn’t be trusted to order a PBR?
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crackbaby
August 31st, 2010
7:16 pm
Good laws no politician would support:
Legal drinking ages:
For combat servicemen and women = 18
For stupid people (like Bill Orvis White) = 35
Everyone else = 19
Silent Jay
September 1st, 2010
2:58 am
Young, dumb and full of….beer.
RCT
September 2nd, 2010
3:13 am
Let’s reinstate the draft, starting with anyone that feels it necessary to bring up religion, which never has anything to do with logic of an arguement. If you are against drinking alcohol, don’t drink. If you don’t want your children to drink, tell them why.
Now, if you want to save lives by being more strigent against DUI, work to change the laws. Please keep Jesus, wine, Last Supper’s, etc. etc. etc. OUT OF IT! You sound like morons.