Republicans and the complicated topic of education

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The first day of school at Milton's new Birmingham Falls Elementary School. Bob Andres, bandres@ajc.com

Next to the economy, no issue is likely to be as decisive in this fall’s race for governor as education. Or as complicated.

Fans of Democrat Roy Barnes will list the topic of school funding as the former governor’s top advantage in the campaign.

And most Republicans will concede that cuts to education — forced upon them by the Great Recession, they argue — pose the chief weakness of a GOP ticket dominated by former Congressman Nathan Deal.

Republicans are slightly awkward in their discussions of education, bedeviled by conflicts in philosophy.

The same GOP activists who dominate suburban Atlanta politics — with a party platform that lauds home schooling and vouchers — have built the strongest public school systems in the state. And guard them jealously.

Then there’s the matter of money for education. And where, in this economic emergency, it should come from.

This week, a jubilant Gov. Sonny Perdue basked in the news from Washington that Georgia had “won” $400 million in federal Race to the Top funds for school reform.

In a desert of a year marked by teacher furloughs and layoffs, larger classrooms, and shorter school calendars, this was a cool drink of water.

But after thanking the proper state school officials, the governor’s first message was directed at two statewide candidates in his own party — though he didn’t mention them by name.

Perdue, who this spring ordered up state-funded attorneys to battle Washington’s encroachment into health care, declared the fresh education funds from the Obama administration a different matter altogether.

“I want to say once again, for many who have feared that this is federal intrusion, the feds gave us no rules,” the governor said. “They said, ‘you put together a plan that you can implement.’ ”

One of Perdue’s targets was John Barge, the Republican nominee for state school superintendent, who had declared that Race to the Top money wasn’t worth the strings that came with it.

On Tuesday, Barge quickly promised that — if elected in November — he would not give the $400 million back. “I will faithfully administer the programs and policies set by the governor and the General Assembly,” Barge declared.

Then there’s the case of Deal, the Republican nominee for governor and son of two public school educators.

During the runoff, like Barge, the former Gainesville congressman briefly declined to endorse Perdue’s dogged pursuit of Race to the Top money — as a matter of principle. Deal quickly recanted.

But a certain skepticism crept back into his language as Deal congratulated Perdue on his financial victory on Tuesday. The GOP nominee for governor declared that, if elected, he would “conduct reviews of this program so that it achieves its original goals and remains an autonomous function of the state of Georgia.”

The shouting over federal money isn’t over. The $4.35 billion Race to the Top program was part of the $787 billion economic stimulus plan passed by Congress. Deal voted against it — a fact that will surely be pointed out by the Barnes campaign.

The Republican dance over Race to the Top cash has nearly overshadowed what should have been one of the most dramatic story lines of the 2010 race for governor — the rapprochement between former Gov. Barnes and the teachers who deserted him eight years ago.

The Democrat’s non-stop apologies paid off last week, when the 43,000-member Georgia Association of Educators — the largest teachers group that makes political endorsements — placed itself in Barnes’ camp. Public funding for education was the primary issue, said GAE President Calvine Rollins of Bainbridge.

Deal, the only GOP candidate for governor to interview for the GAE endorsement, admits that he hasn’t quite fleshed out his education policy — and Rollins said the lack of details weighed against the former congressman.

The GAE president declined to make public the position papers submitted by the two candidates. But policy statements by Barnes and Deal, posted on the website of another group, the larger Professional Association of Georgia Educators, bear out Rollins’ contention.

Even so, the Deal campaign scoffed at Rollins’ repeated declarations that the endorsement of Barnes was non-partisan. “They endorsed all Democrats,” Deal spokesman Brian Robinson said. Including Joe Martin, the Democratic candidate for state school superintendent.

The point is legitimate, and essential to Barnes. The GAE — until it declared itself neutral in 2002 — was a reliable member of the Democratic infrastructure.

At least for this year, it has returned to the fold, allowing the former governor to begin his general election campaign with the traditional Democratic base intact.

Whether teachers in Georgia’s classrooms will follow is a topic for another day.

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102 comments Add your comment

carter is a fool

August 25th, 2010
6:39 pm

I don’t vote democratic as a rule. However, I was and still am a fan of Gov.Zell Miller. I voted against Barnes and now regret voting for Gov. GoFish. The problem is that Republicans do not want to strengthen education and find solutions to the problems of our schools. They want to CUT MONEY from the budget in Good Times and even more in Bad Times. Perdue and crowd have reduced funding every year.

They LIE. They say they want to reward the best and brightest of the profession and then they break their word and rewrite the laws to eliminate funding for National Board teachers. National Board Certification is the top credential a teacher can earn.

They continually say they want to reward the best teachers and keep them in the classrooms and all the while they cut the salaries of these top teachers. They then furlough teachers and force local board to shorten the school year and slash funding.

I am now a solid Independent. i will not vote for thee MISERS who crave tax breaks for themselves and their buddies. I will not vote for these sleazy dealers who line their pockets while short changing the state’s top priority – Education.

I also will not vote for the high rollers and big spenders in Washington who spend our money like monopoly money.

Vote Democrat in the state and local elections and vote Republican for national elections. I am tired of those enlightened politicians under the Gold Dome who deride teachers, devalue their work, dismiss the credentials, cut their salaries, attempt to wreck their retirement system, shorten the school year in order to cut their pay and endorse Vouchers as the cure de jour.

We have to stop this insanity. We also have to look for accountability in education, but it does not start with more of this crazy testing disease and it does not come with merit pay. Merit pay is not about merit, but a system that Cagle candidly said would cut the state budget.

We need accountability and it starts with everyone. Parents who need to send Johnny and Jane to school to learn with pencil and paper. Parents who need to make sure Johnny and Jane are ready to learn with breakfast and a good night sleep. Teachers who need to work with each child to master the objectives. Teachers who must be valued by the community, politicians and parents and who in turn must trust and value parents and the community. This is where schools are failing. Too often students come unprepared to school and undisciplined. Then they disrupt others and make the learning process difficult and slow the pace of instruction. Sometimes teachers then give up on these students or toss in the towel all together. There is a huge % of new teachers that never make it past the third year let alone the fifth year.

There is a lot of work to be done to rebuild trust and to work together to solve the real problems. These problems are not cutting budgets and deriding those teachers on the front line.

Race to the Top is just another fad. It is not correct to say that this is a cool drink of water. It is a drop in the bucket from a short lived source of funds that does nothing to solve the underlying problems in eduction in Georgia.

n a desert of a year marked by teacher furloughs and layoffs, larger classrooms, and shorter school calendars, this was a cool drink of water.

rgoodden

August 25th, 2010
6:42 pm

A second-rank state teachers’ group has sent a reminder of their liberal political agenda.

To absolutely no one’s surprise, the Georgia Association of Educators last week issued an endorsement of the Democratic Party’s entire slate of candidates for top state offices. A wry-faced GAE executive committee informed members—yet again—that no Republican or independent quite measures up.

Republican gubernatorial (and presidential) candidates, in fact, never “measure up” in the committee’s partisan Democrat eyes.

But union members (GAE is the National Education Association) normally oblivious to their secret lives as milk cows for the Democratic National Committee are known to stir on occasion—and even to object. So an assortment of practiced union obfuscations are being brought in to quell dissent. Meanwhile, Roy Barnes will lumber apologetically on to defeat in November—marooning GAE and its hapless members under their accustomed cloud, bereft of influence under the Gold Dome.

We might all ponder, along with the dwindling numbers of GAE teachers statewide, just why union bosses prefer it so.

mark

August 25th, 2010
7:13 pm

All I know about the Republican canidate is that he hates GAYS. I guess that gets you votes in a state that rewards ignorance, while attempting to dismantle the public educational system.

Billy in Savannah

August 25th, 2010
7:26 pm

Barnes is much more knowledgeable of all the issues affecting our entire state.

Rural Education

August 25th, 2010
7:32 pm

The “fisherman” cut education funding every time he had the chance. A vote for Deal is just more of the same.

Retired Navy Chief

August 25th, 2010
7:46 pm

I personally think their endorsement of Governor Barnes is a plus for Congressman Deal.

First, let me say I don’t like unions, in general. They are organizations which promote laziness on the part of employees and engender a negative growth attitude in both private business owners and government entities.

I don’t like teachers unions, in particular. Since the teachers unions have existed, the quality of education in government schools had dropped in direct relation to their influence. Teachers unions do not represent the students – they represent the teachers.

Socialistic teachers pass their philosophical venom on to their students and it takes years for their students to be able to make informed judgments unclouded by the drivel they were taught. Most teachers do not do, they teach. Their lack of real world experience leads them to expound social justice, economic justice, and moral relativism – all of which run counter to the rule of law.

Children need to learn facts. They need to learn to read, write, perform everyday mathematical equations without the use of a calculator or a computer. They need to learn to write in cursive which can actually be read by another person. They need to learn to comprehend what they read. Based on the graduation rate, as determined by an agency outside the school system, they are not getting the job done.

Teachers want to be recognized for their own scholastic achievements. Why? The majority of teachers are professional students. When teachers are recognized for the scholastic achievements of their students, the teacher has achieved what the occupation demands and they should be rewarded for it. However, this will be difficult for even standardized test scores can no longer be trusted to be corruption free.

Parents, children, and teachers need to be held accountable for a child’s progress. If the teacher has done what it is possible to do, the school system needs to dismiss the child from school, so the money can be devoted to a child who can achieve. This is not happening and taxpayer dollars are being wasted on dullards. Teachers are not doing their job allowing below average students to drag the rest of the class down to the lowest level, instead of raising the class up to the level of the best and the brightest.

I can understand why school budgets have been cut – why throw good money after bad. Right now, due to the teachers themselves, education is a bad investment. Why invest more when there is no sign of recovery?

Will

August 25th, 2010
7:47 pm

Nathan Deal’s initial response to “Race to the Top” funding of public education was a classic example of a clueless politician pandering to his voter base.

It was obvious to all that Congressman Deal had no clue relating to the application process, criteria for award and/or criteria for spending these funds. Congressman Deal only understood the phrase, “federal funds” and understood this was a killer “buzz phrase” to his voter base. Within the republican base, anything tied to federal funds is viewed with more than alarm to these base voters and anyone promoting federal spending is seen to be a part of the socialist takeover of the country.

The only problem with this thinking was that the republican governor of Georgia and the republican state school superintendent were solidly in the corner of the purpose of this federal funding and most republicans who support public education are at least open to, if not supportive of, the Administration’s Secretary of Education and the direction the Obama is moving relating to public education in America.

Nathan Deal’s breathtaking ignorance of this issue and his blatant pandering to his base vote should give any independent thinking voter who value public education some pause when considering the Congressman in the voting booth this fall.

RetEd

August 25th, 2010
7:50 pm

Roy Barnes’ Apology Tour can’t make up for four years of failed policies and sinking test scores. He’ll lose–and the teachers’ union money that follows him to defeat will be wasted, despite the efforts of GAE’s tired old spin machine.

Kids and parents will be better off for it.

bart

August 25th, 2010
8:09 pm

If you really want to improve edication in this state, you must vote Democrat. Consider the assault Republicans have conducted on public education the past 8 years. Perdue is the worst education governor EVER.

bart

August 25th, 2010
8:10 pm

education, not edication!!!

John Kerry

August 25th, 2010
8:20 pm

Hey Congressman Deal, I like that flip-flop on race to the top – JK

Used to be Disgusted

August 25th, 2010
8:29 pm

Why would repukes want a good school system? Their entire political operation depends upon having a large supply of gullible, ignorant people to vote for them. Most educated people loathe republicans.

WE have lost our way

August 25th, 2010
8:41 pm

Education,education,education.WE have funded,talked about,redone,redo,reprogram,new programs,and more funds in the last 20 years in Georgia and we are still 48 or 47 in the country.My God it will not matter who is elected for Governor. Have you ever considered that we just stink in education statewide.Does anybody really know how to improve our education system? What I have seen for the last 20 years,no one has a clue!!! Just throw more money at it. That is the only answer I have seen and it is not working.

Grover Hardin

August 25th, 2010
8:45 pm

Well chief was there anything you wrote your own opinion or was it all someone else’s? It is blatantly clear to anyone who has been in the classroom that you haven’t. These teachers can’t send the children away from school. Its the law.I would feel sorry for anyone with a learning disability to have to be associated with you. On the one hand you criticize the teachers for continuing their own education to enable themselves to be better teachers and criticize them for not being better teachers. I would challenge anyone and I mean anyone to do what these people do on a daily basis. Don’t sit on your hands and whine about the results when you don’t know and don’t care what it takes to do the job.Volunteer, mentor a child, roll your sleeves up and do something, get involved. I know of no other profession that cares or gives more to their job (your children). The reward is they love what they do. One last question were you educated in private or public school?

retiredds

August 25th, 2010
8:49 pm

Typical Republican card shuffle: denounce the stimulus funds and education funds but then take the money and run, take credit for getting the funds, and then denounce the Dems as running up the deficit. Ever hear the word, duplicity, it fits them to a tee.

John Galt

August 25th, 2010
9:03 pm

It will be interesting to see how much of the “stimulus” money actually makes it down to the classroom. I’d bet 3 percent of it, if we are lucky. Most of it will be spent on salaries.

That money was printed, friends and neighbors. The government is broke.

Marcus Harris

August 25th, 2010
9:05 pm

Retired Navy Chief, I am glad you are no longer in the Navy. How many schools you attended while
in the Navy. You are Stone Age. and anti-educational.

rbn

August 25th, 2010
9:28 pm

Deal won the Republican nomination without an education agenda. That says it all about Republican committment to public education. Barnes has a well articulated plan, has a record of reducingg class size, providing modest raises, raising standards, and building modern schools. This is a clear choice.

KJ

August 25th, 2010
9:36 pm

My wife returning to teaching this year. She was given one case of paper which must last her the entire year. To make matters worse, the school purchased a cheaper, lower grade of paper which caused the school copier to jam consistently. As a result, she has had to make copies at home using our personal printer. She is not given basic supplies such as file folders, scissors, paper clips and a stapler. She has spent also $300 out of pocket to provide for her kids.

My kids are in larger class sizes and they are now cramming the school buses where the kids must sit three to a seat. Given the size of middle school and high school students, you can imagine how comfortable these conditions are.

The Republican leaders have done nothing to improve the overall quality of education for the last eight years except cut spending.

HELL NO YOU CAN'T!

August 25th, 2010
9:39 pm

Who needs education anyway? Is our children learning?

Complicated?

August 25th, 2010
9:51 pm

It’s not complicated. Want to turn around failing schools?

IT’S THE DISCIPLINE, STUPID!

Gramma

August 25th, 2010
9:57 pm

If Islam is “…passed down by the father’s blood…,” then ignorance and hatred must be acquired not only form the father’s blood, but also nurtured by the mother’s milk. Carry on Chief. Your forefathers salute you.

Drew

August 25th, 2010
9:59 pm

Most of the teacher I know including myself hate GAE, IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A LIBERAL UNION THAT GIVES TEACHER THE SCARE TACTIC TO GET THEIR MONEY. nO ROY BARNES IN 10

oldandntheway

August 25th, 2010
10:53 pm

Has raising teacher pay ever been proved to have any relationship to any measurable improvement in school performance?

Larry

August 25th, 2010
11:22 pm

Democrats are liars. They don’t want education; they want indoctrination. To fill their NAZI masses, they have dumbed down American school rooms to a frightening extent.

Republicans aren’t much better.

The only good result would be a complete breakdown of the current education system. That way, families would educate their own; and, people who wanted an education would find one. The rest would join their Democrat bretheren on their lemming-like march to extinction.

d

August 25th, 2010
11:26 pm

I find it interesting that GAE endorses those who follow its core beliefs most closely – which are listed on their home page for everyone to see. I don’t see how anyone could really disagree with these priorities:
GAE ENHANCES EDUCATION PROGRAMS.

We will work to:
 Lower maximum class size.

 Maximize student learning and minimize high-stakes testing.

 Fully fund public schools, eliminating the need for furloughs and/or salary reductions.

 Secure safe public schools.

 Fully staff all public schools and programs.

 Prevent all voucher initiatives by ensuring that all education funding is restricted to public school programs.

 Secure safe bus transportation of public schools students, staff, and teachers.

 Limit capacity on public school buses to manufacturer’s recommendation.

 Establish a comprehensive program of drop-out prevention.

 Prevent privatization of any public school services.

 Maintain the state mandated academic contract year.

GAE SUPPORTS EDUCATORS.

We will work to:
 Improve salary and benefits including a living wage for all public school employees.

 Prevent furloughs for all public school employees.

 Provide quality comprehensive health care benefits and services to active & retired public school employees.

 Improve retirement benefits for all public school employees.

 Secure collective bargaining rights for all public school employees.

 Secure state salary schedule for ESPs.

GAE PROTECTS EDUCATORS.

We will work to:
 Enact and enforce fair evaluation procedures.

 Secure an effective and enforceable grievance procedure for all public school employees.

 Secure fair dismissal procedures for all public school employees.

 Secure employment contracts for Educational Support Professionals (ESP).

GAE STRENGTHENS EDUCATORS.
We will work to:
 Provide public school employees a greater voice in decision-making to improve public education.

 Improve working conditions for public school employees.

 Provide comprehensive induction/mentoring for all beginning public school employees including additional pay for mentor teachers.

 Ensure that nationally certified professionals are compensated at the level commensurate with their certification.

d

August 25th, 2010
11:27 pm

Just a note – these were adopted by the GAE Representative Assembly – the members, not the officers.

Cherokee

August 25th, 2010
11:48 pm

I disagree with your statement, Jim, about suburban reps and their school systems. I live in Senator Rogers’ district in Cherokee. The man cares nothing for public schools, teachers, children, whoever. Micro chip implantation? Yeah, man we have to move on that!

But schools? Who cares.

Sadly, he will of course be re-elected by the lemmings and their knee jerk Republican votes.

Teacher who remembers

August 26th, 2010
1:00 am

King Rat knows a lot–but did he actually do what he said he would do? Never trust a person who has to go on an “apology” tour. Teacher DO remember–and we vote. GAE also knows that most of us do not pay any attention to who they endorse–even though there are as many Republican NEA members as there are Democrats. Surprised?

T.L. Hill

August 26th, 2010
1:59 am

Recycle,regret and remember that Barnes has been there before. He was bad for the state then, and would be even worst now. Wake up and rebuild our education system. stop voting party and vote issues.

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Jim

August 26th, 2010
2:30 am

“I want to say once again, for many who have feared that this is federal intrusion, the feds gave us no rules,” the governor said. “They said, ‘you put together a plan that you can implement.’ ”

…so we can take Federal money as long as there are no strings attached? Washington never should’ve given any states in the health care lawsuit any money. They need to cut off the money, and make them stand on principle for a while.

Bitter EX democrackkk

August 26th, 2010
3:19 am

STRIVE to be SMARTER than to VOTE for Royal Barnes, filthy democrackkk.

Fire Eater

August 26th, 2010
3:41 am

Neal Boortz is almost 100% correct in his assessment of “government schools.” They have devolved into little more than indoctrination centers and/or laboratories where rabid leftists can act out their crackpot theories on our children. They run their schools like little North Koreas or Cubas with their “zero tolerance” for fingernail files or pictures of a gun yet allow gang thugs to terrorize decent kids because “all are entitled to an education.”

Why don’t they have IQ tests to see the potential scholarly abilities of the the individual student? Inquiring minds would like to know. Why don’t they put high-IQ kids in special schools where their full potential can be developed free of intimidation and chaos caused by low-IQ students?

I would like you government school advocates to tell me why home schooled kids back in the sticks do so much better on every test than do big city kids where they dump massive amounts of funding per student like Atlanta.

I don’t think our public school advocates, the main PC commissars in America, would care to go there.

Mid-South Philosopher

August 26th, 2010
5:42 am

While I can understand why a “special needs” individual like Neal Boortz thinks the way he does, I am surprised at a number of you on this blog who are convinced that teachers in Georgia are members of powerful and subversive “teacher unions.” The two teacher organizations GAE and PAGE are, at best, politically active “professional organizations” whose members (at least on occasion) vote for the candidates that will further their interests.

What is wrong with that?

Don’t you, lawyers and doctors and bankers and other “corporatists”, belong to organizations that do that?

Any organization that is prohibited by state from “bargaining collectively” with their employer or “striking” is NOT a union. Anyone with above a sixth grade education, with the exception of the mentally impaired, should know this.

Robert W. Patrick

August 26th, 2010
5:43 am

The power of money. It still speaks volumes!

South Ga Teacher

August 26th, 2010
6:03 am

This is for d from the GAE…really? GAE is a liberal organization associated with the NEA. The yearly dues for GAE are outrageous. I mean really, who wants to pay close over $400 a year to join the liberal dribble GAE. I am in no way promoting PAGE, but at least its cheaper to join. PAGE works in the same manner as GAE. The final straw that broke the camel’s back was GAE’s endorsement of Barnes. I began teaching when King Rat Roy was in office. Perdue was a big disappointment, but I do not want a return of Barnes. Race to the Top, let’s see how fast we drop if Rat Roy gets elected.

Road Scholar

August 26th, 2010
6:11 am

Fire Eater: You are the poster child for indoctrination!

For those teachers who slam Barnes, how has the past 8 years, esp the past two, been for you? And you want more of the same?

Finally, you wonder why the GAE endorsed Barnes and other Demos? Have you read and can you comprehend what the Repubs have done to education in this state? Have you heard and understood Deal’s and Barge’s comments regarding funding? Have you read Barne’s education platform? Can you read? Reason?

Zinc

August 26th, 2010
6:12 am

All you need to do is read all the misinformed and ignorant comments that spew from the mouths of the citizenry on these blogs to understand why education is in trouble. Clearly it is the parents. But let’s keep blaming teachers, unions, Atlanta, the federal government and anything else that makes you feel better at night so that you don’t have to do your job.

LizBeth

August 26th, 2010
7:21 am

Our state made a lot of promises to get the “Race to the Top” money. Barnes makes a lot of promises about the future of education in our state. Deal hasn’t made any, but his party affiliation shows he will do whatever the Republicans decide will benefit them best, which is usually the least education possible. Meanwhile, teachers and administrators go to work daily, in a fearful and negative frame of mind to teach. And who gets the brunt of all this mismanagement? Kids, who suffer through overcrowding on unmonitored buses, kids who have crowded classrooms, kids who do not have enough supplies, and kids who deal with the stresses of the CRCT placed upon them by teachers and administrators who are stressed as well by those above them, and so on up the chain. Our entire system needs emotional reform, to enhance learning at the lowest levels. When someone speaks to that, that’s who I’m voting for.

Mel

August 26th, 2010
7:23 am

I am shocked, SHOCKED I say, that the GAE has endorsed Barnes. Knee jerk voting? Thy name is teacher’s organizations.

Bill Orvis White

August 26th, 2010
7:23 am

Voucherize,voucherize, voucherize. Ever since the Lord Almighty was kicked out of public schools in the early 1960s, the entire idea has failed. It’s a fact, you September 10th secular progressive Democrats. Now is the time to dissolve the entire public school concept and replace it with privatized corporate educational outlets. When choice and competition are mixed in with a voucher system, everybody wins.

The problem here is that teacher unions and old-line liberal Democrats still have way too much power and say which keeps all of us in this failed secular rut.

Also, these vouchers ought to go towards home-schooling which I have said a number of times before: if we could keeps mothers and single women at home to teach children, then we would see more men get jobs in the workplace. I honestly think that we could solve much of our unemployment problems this way. I know I’m dreaming on that one, but it would be the perfect vision.

I know that the Honorable Rep. Nathan Deal is the man who will make this vision work.

God Bless this once-free nation,
Bill Orvis White

Amen

Vince

August 26th, 2010
7:24 am

@ Road Scholar

Smart teachers, and others, realize the funding cuts over the past few years have everything to do with the recession and nothing to do with which party sat in the governor’s mansion and the capitol.

Barnes and his cunning crew want the ill informed to believe otherwise. C’mon man, Perdue didn’t have enough influence and power to control the world’s economy.

You actually believe Barnes will give educators raises and end furloughs? The furloughs (another Barnes smokescren) were almost completely locally imposed. Fourteen of my 15 furlough days were imposed by my local board (all Democrats)….not the state. Is Barnes going to make it illegal for local boards to do that?

J. Davis

August 26th, 2010
7:30 am

Gimme a break! I’ve lived in Ga. 28 years and every candidate for governor who has run, or won, has been the education candidate. Not only is education not better, it is worse. The only answer is get the government out of the education business. Parents, get your children into private, Christian, or homeschools. Public schools are government businesses so what do you expect?

Mike In Woodstock

August 26th, 2010
8:05 am

Way off Topic — Why does the AJC not ever post any message boards about Sunday Alcohol Sales during an election year?

LizBeth

August 26th, 2010
8:25 am

Billy Orvis White wants women at home so that men can work?! And this would solve the unemployment problem?! Apparently, only men are tallied in the unemployment rate, according to his thinking. And then, J. Davis and others think vouchers are the answer. One thing voucher supporters seem to miss is that private schools are not formed to create better education for everybody; private schools are created to exclude others deemed undesirable or to focus on small communities of learning. Vouchers will only create more administration headaches for private schools who want to continue those exclusions or focuses. And, meanwhile, where are the children in public schools to be found in all of these answers to the problem? Not here. These answers aren’t about educating children, just very skewed social and political agendas. Focus on the issue, people!

Elisabeth Hassler

August 26th, 2010
8:27 am

I’m a very disappointed Republican. I simply cannot support that unqualified crook Nathan Deal.

Garry Owen

August 26th, 2010
8:42 am

Why should I vote for King Roy? He treated teachers like dirt when he was in charge. Why should we believe it would be any different if King Roy is elected to another term in Atlanta?

lmno

August 26th, 2010
8:52 am

Its our nostalgia that holds us back. The picture at the top of this page is a perfect example. Its a wonderful shot of kids laughing on the way to school and it conjurs images of our happier school days. We hold on to our traditions and they nullify any attempt at real change.

What we need to do is forget everything we know about american education and benchmark to another country. Japan, South Korea, and Norway are consistently producing the top students. We should spend the money studying what they are doing and then copy them.

In business, this practice is called benchmarking.

This would mean that we would be willing to do away with the things that we feel make our system uniquely american. If the south koreans aren’t having Proms, we shouldn’t either. If the Norwegians leave sports to private enterprise, then we should too.

I don’t know what they are doing, but whatever it is, its working and what we are doing is failing.

Allison

August 26th, 2010
8:58 am

Mayor Reed – for the City of Atlanta – had the nerve to say that the State need to train unemployed people for better jobs when he has done nothing BUT cut jobs in the City of Atlanta and has NOT offered any type of training to those employees that have lost their jobs. I can’t wait to move away from the City of Atlanta. Trust me when I say you thought Shirley Franklin was bad…you ain’t seen nothing yet! Reed is a crook if there ever was one. He talks one way, but he does not walk his talk…..he is so busy trying to recruit new policemen ‘ which do not ever remain as city of atlanta policemen for too long after training…that he has lost total focus on the other employees. He does not follow his own advice….in the next mayor election VOTE HIS BEHIND OUT OF OFFICE!!!!