Landmark poll: Nathan Deal and Karen Handel in dead heat
The local Republican-oriented strategy firm of Landmark Communications, which last week gave Karen Handel a 46 to 37 percent lead over Nathan Deal in the Republican runoff for governor, is out this afternoon with a follow-up poll – that says Deal has closed the gap.
Says Landmark:
Deal leads 44-42% over Handel with 14% saying they will vote but are still undecided. Based on a previous Landmark poll conducted August 1st, Deal has moved up eleven percentage points over the past week, from nine back to two ahead….
“Nathan Deal has moved from behind to a statistical tie,” said Landmark President Mark Rountree. “Over the past week, Deal effectively won many undecided and less committed voters, making this a dead heat. We don’t make a prediction on the outcome of this.”
A poll released over the weekend by the AJC and the Georgia Newspaper Partnership showed Handel and Deal in a tight race, but with Handel leading Deal 47 percent to 42 percent. The GNP survey indicated a significant gender gap – with women supporting Handel in larger numbers.
But Roundtree says Landmark polling is picking up no such gender preference in the race. The automated survey sampled 623 voters on Aug. 7 — before the visits to Georgia by ‘08 GOP presidential candidates Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin for Deal and Handel, respectively.
MOE is +/- 3.9 percentage points.
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B-fan
August 9th, 2010
5:22 pm
This race reminds me of the tagline from the Aliens vs. Predators movie…
“Whoever wins, we lose”
Alec Young
August 9th, 2010
5:25 pm
Click here for Report and Crosstabs:
http://landmarkcommunications.net/
Beyond The Rhetoric
August 9th, 2010
5:51 pm
For those that speculate Karen Handel would win over Roy Barnes in the General Election:
The following is from Rasmussen Reports, dated July 22, 2010, one of the major polling resources in the Nation:
“Handel earns 45% of the vote against Barnes while Deal picks up 49%. Handel, the former Secretary of State, and Deal, a former Congressman, are headed for an August 10 runoff. Deal and Handel came from behind to win their slots in the run-off with key endorsements from New Gingrich and Sarah Palin respectively.”
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/georgia/election_2010_georgia_governor
Rasmussen’s accuracy is highly respected. For example, in the 2008 Presidential Election taken on October 30th, Rasmussen predicted that McCain would win Georgia by +5.0%. The final results from the election: Georgia voted for McCain by +5.2%.
Rasmussen is a non-partisan, professional organization folks. This can be confirmed by going to Real Clear Politics.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ga/georgia_mccain_vs_obama-596.html
Carpet Bagger
August 9th, 2010
6:00 pm
Karen Handel has a high school degree from Maryland.
Smarty Pants declined to obtain a college degree
We the People
August 9th, 2010
6:04 pm
Hopefully, this means that voters are beginning to see that Palin’s endorsement of pro-abortion candidate Handel is nothing more than the playing of party politics, which voters have had enough of, no matter which party it is.
Deal is a goofy bumpkin
August 9th, 2010
6:06 pm
That whole Deal family looks like an ad for Value City!
Handel fan
August 9th, 2010
6:11 pm
I was at the rally today and it was fantastic! Handel was articulate and really pleased the large crowd. She and Palin have magnetic personalities and I am proud to have been there today! Today I realized that GA needs a new leader with new ideas. Handel will represent our state with dignity and be a fresh face to the nation!
JJ
August 9th, 2010
6:30 pm
Deal is a crooked politician and by looking and listening to him he epitomizes good ole boy politics, shady back room deals and the like.
I am not a Palin fan but I am voting for Handel since she did a good job as Secretary of State fighting the Obama and Holder’s Dept of Justice with the voter ID issue.
Donne
August 9th, 2010
6:42 pm
My vote is for the REAL Deal…unless of course, you folks want Barnes!
ordinary citizen extraordinary time
August 9th, 2010
6:49 pm
In re;y to goofy bumpkin….I thought his supporters look like the salt of the earth…that is what I thought everytime I have been around him and Sandra…they are real…No 100k wardrobes –or flown in in good looking commercial types like Palin….just real people… not a big time politician …just a real person. Look I am living in 30305 and have very nice clothes and cars…but I helped elect Scott Brown he drove a truck and did not have a 2000 dollar coat like his opponent….he was real…and he still owns his truck ( he is not conservative enough for me …but I live in Ga)…but he was real…Nathan and Sandra are just real…Not flashy …just real.
rj
August 9th, 2010
6:56 pm
You have got to be kidding me. If nothing else is clear be aware that Handel is Perdue’s candidate. Go ahead and vote for her and indicate you are desirous of more of the same and a complete lack of leadership as before. She has never finished any job she started including school. Her resume if investigated would be classified as fraudulent in the NCAA yet you want her for a Governor. Not sure who scare me the most, her or those that vote for her.
Teacher who remembers
August 9th, 2010
7:07 pm
Voted last week for the REAL DEAL, and expect he can beat King Rat. Remember that–EDUCATORS.
Cissy
August 9th, 2010
7:08 pm
I lost respect for Sarah Palin this weekend. Doesn’t she vet the people she endorses? I gotta agree with B-Fan. The people of Georgia…. apparently don’t think we deserve better.
Mark Rountree, Landmark
August 9th, 2010
7:18 pm
Deal was down nine points a week ago, has moved to a statistical tie. The 2% edge he has in our poll is within the margin of error of the poll, which is 3.9%.
We aren’t predicting a Deal or a Handel victory with this release, just releasing the data we see. But clearly Deal has moved over the past week to make this the most competitive race we’ve seen in a long time.
It’s interesting that Handel now leads in the 7th congressional district … Deal was up there a week ago. Metro atlanta is moving more to Handel and much of the rest of the state toward Deal.
FultonRighty
August 9th, 2010
7:28 pm
Ms. Handel insulted “the rest of the state” by attacking Deal for being a convert to the GOP. Most of the state back in the 80’s had no local Republican party. Even if they did, all of the action was in the Democrat primaries. I welcome folks who see the light and come my way on life, on other social issues and on party affiliation. Ronald Reagan being #1 in my book! Welcome all you Reagan Democrats–Georgia GOP loves you if Ms. Handel doesn’t.
heartofdarkness
August 9th, 2010
7:29 pm
I have listened to both of the televised debates and checked in the AJC online. I can not say what either one of these candidates plan to do for Georgia. Ad hominem attacks aren’t possible, because that requires the proponent to make an argument from which the respondent diverts attention. This campaign makes me think the state will continue to be a non-factor in the nation’s future, except, maybe in the art of the personal insult.
Serious Voter
August 9th, 2010
7:43 pm
Handle has a problem finishing what she starts and Deal is a long time participant in our political system. Both have their negative sides but either of them is a much better choice than Roy Barnes.
Billy in Savannah
August 9th, 2010
7:45 pm
The Republicans are an embarrassment to our state worrying about abortions, gays and a lot of controversial social issues when our state faces such severe deficits. How did Perdue work out for you teachers? I wander if fish was served from the fish pond funded by taxpayers this weekend in Houston County??????
curious
August 9th, 2010
7:50 pm
Interesting to hear Sarah Palin blasting ‘good ole boy’ politics at Karen Handel’s rally. I’m sure John McCain took notice.
HallCountyGOP
August 9th, 2010
7:52 pm
Why does Handel always look so mad at her debates? Because nothing that comes out of her mouth has any substance or carries any merrit. She is an outsider just like Palin. Im tired of hearing the phrase “Good ol Boy.” Would you rather have an educated good ol boy who is a great man and a patriot, or an outsider like Palin….I mean Handel. Elect a candidate who has the experience and know how to lead our state back to prosperity. Deal. Real
Dawgfan
August 9th, 2010
7:59 pm
@Deal is a goofy bumpkin…I am a member of the Deal family. I don’t see Nathan making shots at your family so I don’t see how his is fair game for you. Also, I believe you should apologize to those folks who shop at Value City…because from what I see there is nothing wrong with the way they or my family dress.
Mary in Dublin
August 9th, 2010
8:00 pm
How is our country better for having Deal in Washington for 18 years? How many real pieces of legislation did he pass to benefit the citizens of Georgia? Did he verify the facts for the ads he has run against Handel before wasting his good money on spreading lies? Can that be called “real” leadership?
Elaine
August 9th, 2010
8:07 pm
I hope Nathan Deal did not mean when he said he would not support Handle if she won. I think he was probably just upset over her doing so well. I hope the Georgia Good Ole Boys vote for the Republican regardless of who it is because nobody I know wants that Barnes & his blue flag back or his ideas that he thinks he knows what is best for Georgians instead of listening to the people. He has that in common with Obama & Pelosi & Reid. We will do what we think is best not what you want. The man made an idiot out of himself & his wife when he invited the news media in to film Chris Rocks reaction to that lying woman trying to say that her baby was Chris Rocks. I was embarrassed for Chris Rock coming to the South & Barnes acting like a dumb a–. He had him already convicted. I wish Chris Rock could sue Barnes for having the news media there for a woman that made a false allegation.
Charles Emory
August 9th, 2010
8:10 pm
Deal is real alright – a real 16-year congressman who fits the same mold of those today who have an approval rating of 11%! Yet, the real deal is that so many Georgians will go to the polls and blindly vote for him to run the State of Georgia. What did he accomplish while in Congress except making himself and his pals richer!?? Nobody I have asked this question can tell me one thing he did that would make me believe he can put Georgians back to work or balance the budget or improve education. Karen Handel ought to be mad! So am I and many of my friends! One thing I’m mad about is so many who complain about the way Congress has done us, and then go right to the polls and vote for an ex-congressman who had his chance and flubbed it!
Billy Joe Poteet
August 9th, 2010
8:59 pm
@Charles Emory 8:10 pm
Very well stated and very true! Excellent post!
Aquagirl
August 9th, 2010
9:01 pm
@ Dawgfan, if Deal didn’t pimp his grandchildren out on political ads, you wouldn’t sound like an idiot whining. He threw those children out there front and center to make himself look cute. That’s far more loathsome to decent folk than shopping at Value City.
Uncle Tom
August 9th, 2010
9:23 pm
Fair is fair. We have had the rule of the Republicans long enough. Time for a Democrat to share the roost.
DamntheButcher
August 9th, 2010
9:25 pm
I am a Democrat that lives in the 9th district in the Dalton/Chatsworth area and I can’t name a single thing that Nathan “Bad” Deal did for this area the entire time he was in Washington. If someone else knows of something will they please fill me in.
DamntheButcher
August 9th, 2010
9:33 pm
Also Nathan “Bad” Deal talks about how tuff he is on the Illegals. Well look at 2 of the cities he represented while he was in congress. Gainsville & Dalton. The 2 cities with the highest populating of Illegals in the state of Georgia. He was real tuff on them…lol
Ron
August 9th, 2010
9:55 pm
At least we will never have a black governor in this state, thank the lord. We all know what bad “leaders” they are.
MiddleMan
August 9th, 2010
10:04 pm
I sure don’t want Roy Barnes or Nathan Deal in the Capitol. I’ll go with Handel. Jesse Ventura, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sarah Palin are sufficient precedents. I’ve had enough of the old guard and their back room dealings.
Kris
August 9th, 2010
10:08 pm
Nathan Deal is a corrupt bigot!!!
Deal is a goofy bumpkin
August 9th, 2010
10:14 pm
If anyone is a lifetime politician, then they need to go! GA needs to have term limits on these corrupt, politicos! Anyone who is a lifetime politician should be ashamed! Look where we are as a country, and, sadly, our state. Deal is an example of corruption! He has never done anything for representing GA! Why elect lazy to GA? Just because he says he is a moral conservative, does not make it true! His personal life and how his children have turned out says a lot!!!
MC W
August 9th, 2010
10:19 pm
I’ll be casting my ballot for Roy this November. He’s definitely imperfect and I don’t agree with him on every issue, but Atlanta honestly needs some love from the state government that meets well within city lines.
dano
August 9th, 2010
10:19 pm
One of Georgia’s greatest generation men, the late Robert E. Andrews, esq. (who was a decorated WW2 veteran, a state representative, state senator and wise old man)once told me that Nathan Deal was the finest lawyer he had ever known. Know this, Roy Barnes is one hell of lawyer himself. Barnes would out gun Karen Handel in a new york minute…if you want a Republican in the governors mansion then the only person who can take on Roy and win is Nathan Deal….so a vote for Handel on tuesday is a vote for Barnes in november…the choice is easy…
Deal is a goofy bumpkin
August 9th, 2010
10:20 pm
To ordinary citizen /extroidinary times… you sound very ordinary!
Georgia Pete
August 9th, 2010
10:21 pm
All I want to know iswho is going to get rid of all the illegals. Those social leaches are really pissing me off. GET THEM THE HELL OUTTA HERE!!!!!! Deal will do that. The deal her is that Deal represents Gainesville, the city with the highest illegal population in the state. DEPORT THEM ALL!
Where's the Ox?
August 9th, 2010
10:26 pm
Its funny that the last time we were here Ox was saying he was the moral right wing and dumb Christians bought that! Now we have Deal and the same thing with ethics issues at large, AGAIN!
Jane
August 9th, 2010
10:26 pm
If you a Congressman whose know about illegals ask Tom Graves he made his money renting hotel room to illegal in North Ga.
kindergarden math
August 9th, 2010
10:35 pm
Karen Handel’s lack of a college degree would prevent her from applying for many entry level state jobs, including park ranger, probation officer, etc. , yet people feel that she is qualified to be Governor ? Incredible ! Roy Barnes will have a field day with this if she is nominated tomorrow by Republicans.
Landmark poll: Nathan Deal and Karen Handel in dead heat | Georgia Elections News
August 9th, 2010
10:36 pm
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Deal is a goofy bumpkin
August 9th, 2010
10:37 pm
To DAWGFAN, go back to your trailor park and talk about it on the pick-nic table! We are electing a govenor, not some trashy, illiterate, amoral candidate for dog catcher that Deal supporters think this race should be! The Deal family is not presentable and are a laughing stock! What are you going to do when Jay Lenno goes after you? Deal, and his family, are just not camera-ready, or media-savy, or just plain presentable for public viewing! The Deal family looks like white trash.
David
August 9th, 2010
11:10 pm
When voting tomorrow, let’s keep in mind who best represents the values of Georgians, as well as who is backing who in this race. Clearly, Nathan Deal is the most conservative candidate and and has the most experience. He is strongly pro-life and has the backing of the Georgia Right to Life. He believes marriage should be between one man and one woman–as it should. He not only supports but champions the Fair Tax!
Next, take into account who is supporting who. For Karen Handel, Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney are backing her. For Nathan Deal, Mike Huckabee and fellow Georgian Newt Gingrich are supporting him. Simple question: Who do you think best understands and relates to people of Georgia? To he (or she) who has ears, let him hear.
By the way, what’s wrong with being a “good ole boy?” I’ve grown up on the good ole boys of the Dukes of Hazzard!
College Man?
August 9th, 2010
11:10 pm
Our Sarah P. was just great today. She spoke the truth that it is a time for change and the nation is looking at GA to see if we continue with the status quo good-old-boys or go into the future with a new leadership team.
I have read these blogs since the primary and it is really educational how many people are on here whining about Karen – no college, no plan, no etc.
She has been available since Feb 2010, have any of you ever attended any of here events? She has outlined her plans over and over.
A few special interest groups have tried to hijack this election, like GRTL, which has spewed the most hateful lies in the national press. Immediately, you sheeple repeat everything.
Can you not understand that these groups just want to get publicity for themselves; they do not care one iota about what you think, as long as you repeat their lies.
And you Deal appologists – yes, Mr. Deal has now said on two occasions, that he may not support Karen if she wins. Yea, he is showing real “deal” leadership there.
He needs to put on his “big boy” pants and suck it up like any politician who looses.
At least he can spend his time fishing with the kids; living on his gigantic retirement income, free medical care, etc.
Go Karen
Reality
August 9th, 2010
11:25 pm
CollegeMan, stop kidding yourself. The rest of the nation doesn’t give a rat’s #&% about the election. Why would they? When you look at the issues being debated: race, homosexuality, abortion, etc., who would? If competence and capability were issues, Handel would lose in a landslide. If she wins tomorrow, it is because the people of Georgia are too ignorant to realize what an utter joke Sarah Palin is, and that is coming from a guy who used to like to consider himself a Republican. If Palin is now the main voice for the party, I suppose I don’t know what I am. Certainly not whatever she is.
whoDean
August 9th, 2010
11:43 pm
Georgia needs an Atlanta area Governor, Deal is a corrupt country good ‘ol boy, vote for Handel.
Cindy Miller
August 9th, 2010
11:48 pm
Nathan Deal has my vote. I agree with many of the bloggers that the overt and non-stop slander from Karen Handel with “corruption charges” against all of her opponents was such a negative that I just decided that she was a nasty person. Her lack of people skills is what I have learned the most about her over the last 3-4 weeks. From attacking “good ole boys” to telling her opponents to “put on your big boy pants”, it is not wonder why nearly the entire GA republican legislature is against her. Sarah Palin borrowed the same attacks during her rally today. I used to be a Palin fan until she endorsed and campaigned for John McAmnesty McCain instead of his conservative opponent. Same here in GA; Palin is supporting “mama grizzlies” over conservatives and is losing credibility among all of the conservative women in my circles who look at a candidates record. It is true that Nathan Deal has been is GA politics for many years but I happen to like how he votes and the legislation he has put forth. He has been consistently conservative with strong polling against Roy Barnes. All I can say is Karen Handel needs to work on her people skills. She does not know that effective leadership requires people skills and not just a drill sargeant who wants to shake down the boys.
Travis McGee
August 10th, 2010
1:31 am
I don’t understand why the Republican Party continues to run candidates that are so mediocre — it’s like trying to decide whether you had rather be poked in the eye with a sharp stick or be kicked in the groin.
Neither is desireable.
And, I wouldn’t let an interloper like Sarah Palin who quit her elected job as governor of Alaska to make millions determine my vote on any issue. She’s an airhead who is afraid to be interviewed by the media and only spouts cliches. A pitiful political spokesperson.
Boots
August 10th, 2010
1:32 am
“You betcha, ol’ Trav.”
Fire Eater
August 10th, 2010
3:39 am
The “corruption charges” against Deal are coming from “groups” financed by the sinister oligarch George Soros and others of his kind.
kkong
August 10th, 2010
6:15 am
They all SUCK!
jsh
August 10th, 2010
6:20 am
The x half term governor of Alaska blew it for Karen Handel in my opinion by resorting to ad homs etc. Both are poorly educated, that’s incredible these days. Then we have Deal, what can I say……I guess the GOP is giving the election to Barnes!
Jayne M. Barker
August 10th, 2010
7:04 am
PEACE! Ladies first…
J. Davis
August 10th, 2010
7:31 am
Why have 2 liberals on the ballot in November? DEAL FOR GOVERNOR.
T Knight
August 10th, 2010
7:40 am
Right now….. the best man for the job is a woman.
Vote Karen Handel!!!!
GA-9th Alternative
August 10th, 2010
7:44 am
@whoDean ~ The state of Georgia, comprised of all the “Good ole’ boys and girls” from Dalton to Valdosta, have been picking up the tab and subsidizing the excesses of Atlanta and Fulton County for years. Atlanta politicians and the Fulton County government flexed their political muscle and continue to threaten the Governor’s office and state politicians with a boycot by voters in the densely populated metropolis in order to force the state to pay your EPA fines. I can imagine why you want an “Atlanta” area Governor! Who would want to elect an outsider when a local will ensure the rest of the state’s taxpayers keep your taxes low.
@bumpkin ~ Have you travelled outside of your buckhead salon lately? Ken and Barbie do not constitute the majority of Georgia’s population or the rest of the nation. There used to be a place for people who only supported a master race of beautiful people, but Nazi Germany has been relegated to a blemish in history. If you do not like Deal, make your vote be heard at the poll this morning. If you wish to blast people because of their relationship to a candidate or the way they dress, move to Hollywood. You will be in good company. The Georgia I was raised in was hospitable to their neighbors, rather you liked them or not. The Georgia I fought for did not care if you shopped at Gucci or Dollar General.
phil
August 10th, 2010
7:51 am
Educators- You are going to get furloughed, layed off, and degraded regardless of whose elected governor: Barnes, Handell, or Deal. They have no respect for educators. Accept it teachers!!!!!
Anti-Ignorant People
August 10th, 2010
7:52 am
I swear this is the funniest thing ever to read a few of the comments. You “Republicans” think you know it all and have it all. When in actuality you are the worst and the most ignorant. Oh, and I forgot VERY simple-minded.
Now, if Barnes is elected then everything from that point on is a result of Barnes before and present. Perdue (or however it is spelled) did NOTHING wrong, because its going to be Obama’s and Barnes’s fault everything is still going wrong. You people need a life and sense.
earl
August 10th, 2010
7:57 am
Enter your comments here
T. Knight
August 10th, 2010
7:58 am
There is a reason the out of the closet liberals in Georgia are against Deal and supporting Handel! They don’t want to see a conservative as the next Governor of Georgia. With her pro-abortion stand what else will she support? Do you want your tax dollars paying for abortions. Do you want to brag in church you supported a candidate who supports what you profess to be against each Sunday? If you are ready to confess your true liberal beliefs mark you ballot for Handel…If you don’t believe in that make it DEAL!
The Beacon
August 10th, 2010
7:59 am
Karen Handel’s hometown newspaper ENDORSES NATHAN DEAL!
To know Karen is to vote against her. Check it out:
http://www.beaconcastmedia.com/opinion/Deal-is-Real–And-the-Best-Choice-for-North-Fulton-Voters-2440
You Asked
August 10th, 2010
8:09 am
@ Ron 9:55pm
What the heck!? Crawl back into your hole and spare us the bigotry.
Leave some space for the Deal and Handel staffers here trying to get their talking points out. (And a few Barnes staffers warming up for the general election).
do the math
August 10th, 2010
8:12 am
i see a Plin win here.
Huckabee who has a WEEKLY tv show was only able to get 800 people to Deal’s rally.
Sarah Palin got 3,000 to Handel’s rally with more people wanting to get in.
say what you will but it is this kind of enthusiam that is the reality of the entire situation.
you can encourage people to come out for you and the effect of that motivation is evident on the ones who you ACTUALLY get to come out for you.
the Palin Factor
August 10th, 2010
8:17 am
to “The Beacon” @7:59a.m.
do u really think supporters of handel are suddenly going to change their minds because a newspaper endorses her opponent?
especially a last minute endorsement.
dismantling obama
August 10th, 2010
8:19 am
gotta tell ya – i am truly excited about this day in GA.
all polls averaging out show no matter who wins republ elect. they are both outpolling Barnes.
i like barnes by the way but he is a piece of the obama obstruction that must be dismantled.
The Penguin
August 10th, 2010
8:26 am
Women voting for Handel b.c she’s a woman. But republicans claim a certain race only voted for Obama due to his skin tone. Roy will wipe the floor with either of these mediocre candidates. Did Handel or Deal every say anything about the issues affecting this state? Or was their campaign run on wedge issues that no one really cares about until election time? Republicans had 8 years to settle all the issue their spouting off now. What happened? Nothing.
Steve
August 10th, 2010
8:30 am
Handel and Deal are both pure politicians they say they will do away with the State Income Tax that is over 50% (8 Billion Dollars)of the entire budget where do you think they could make up that money. Handel say she will lay off 8000 State employees that will save $400 million now where does that other 7.6 Billion with a B come from. Come on people pay attention don’t let these politicians continue to lie and get away with it. Neither one of them has an orginal thought it is scary to think one of them could be the next governor.
the way i see it
August 10th, 2010
8:36 am
there is nothing whatsoever to support women are voting for handel because she is a woman other than they think she is the better qualified. palin has endorsed both men and women and she has backed men over women in some cases.
lets talk issues instead. clearly and well documented Deal is behaving like Rangel. he knows he has these ethical questions looming over him and instead of giving the republican party of which he is a chance at this he goes ego-first. just what do you think is going to happen in the general when barnes brings up deal’s unethical issues?
lmno
August 10th, 2010
8:38 am
Nothing short of a complete Barnes meltdown could stop him now. All he has to do is say, “Take a look around”. 8 Years of Republican Governorship. Republican State Legislature and take a good look at what it brought you.
Georgia is pretty much always a few years behind the rest of the nation. The rest of the nation got tired of the deregulation that brought down the economy. The greed and pandering to the religious right. Georgia will come around to that about the time that the rest of the nation is moving back towards it. Think of the nation as a pendulum swinging left and then back right. Now picture Georgia as kite tied behind it.
This is with politics as well as any other issue. Georgia is never the leader.
The Alpha Male
August 10th, 2010
8:41 am
What’s well-documented is that Nathan Deal has been a man of integrity for 19 years in the Congress….. what’s well-documented is that the ethics investigations, which have been going on for several months now, have found nothing worthy of censure or condemnation….. and finally, what’s well-documented is that Karen Handel is going to get beaten soundly by a better man and better candidate.
None are so blind as those who refuse to see.
the way i see it
August 10th, 2010
8:43 am
putting obama back in office via electing these democrat governors who support him is like watching the final 20seconds on an explosive. you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that with obama in there it is just a matter of time before this thing blows.
either vote these democrats out or find a place for cover. its that simple.
for the first time we have our 5-year-olds being taught sex education.
for the first time we have a sitting president who takes the sides of people wo have never paid a dime in taxes over the wishes of the bona-fide americans in Arizona.
for the first time in our history we are being made to buy a product or face jail time.
for the first time in our history we have dismantled our NASA program.
for the first time in our history we have drastically reduced our defenses in almost every area that could protect us.
right now as we are obama is seeking from congress the right to go through anyone’s email WITHOUT the approval of any judge – - have you any earthly idea what that means????? CAMP OUT ON THAT FOR ABOUT 10 SECONDS.
(i have at least 84 others but u get the reminders)
Fed up with nastiness
August 10th, 2010
8:46 am
Deal did NOT say he would NOT endorse Handel….he said he could not commit to it. BIG difference! At least he is honest. Handel has been spouting lies like she invented them. Wait….she did!
a matter of logic
August 10th, 2010
8:49 am
Barnes will not, cannot win. that’s a given. we are near nov.and all polls show him trailing already.
we were bamboozled by obama and by now most self-respecting people are willing to admit the screwed up. forget labels. if you are democrat republican or ratilian or mice-ilian, the bottom line is we have a man in the oval office who is anti american and that’s bad news for ALL of us.
ps: if you care to beleive your own press and ignore that Deal is facing ethics problems, just go right ahead; i really cant help you when you see invisible rabbits.
9/12 Member
August 10th, 2010
8:53 am
To GA-9th Alternative….you better check your facts. We have a 1500 sq.ft. condo in Atlanta and pay more taxes on it than we pay on our house on the coast that is 3 times larger. You are crazy if you think the rest of the Sate is keeping Atlanta taxes low. Take the taxes Atlanta pays out of the State budget and see what is left. Businesses locating in Georgia and paying taxes is what can keep our property taxes low.
If you people think that we will get something different by voting for the same people who have run this Country in the ground, you deserve what you get. Deal has been part of the problem in DC for 18 years, and nobody can point to what he has really accomplished. NO INCUMBANTS, please. All these social issues are killing the Republican Party and should have no part in politics. Those should be between you, your family, and God. A GOVERNMENT THAT CAN GIVE YOU ANYTHING CAN TAKE EVERYTHING and that should determine who we elect this year. We are fighting for the right to live as free people. GRTL and all these groups just want to make sure they continue to have their jobs, and principals be damned.
all eyes on GA today
August 10th, 2010
8:54 am
oh, come on you guys.
handel’s got this thing and you know it.
given that deal is the opponent there was nothing wrong with him saying he would not commit to supporting her right now. it’s a little lame but there is no shame in it, afterall he is still fighting to get there. fact is however this is not handle’s.
i’ll bet my lucky stars that Palin-boost just propelled her to at least an 11point lead.
all eyes on GA today
August 10th, 2010
8:54 am
fact is however this is NOW handle’s.
Dawgfan
August 10th, 2010
8:56 am
@GA-9th Alternative…well said.
Conservative Relic
August 10th, 2010
8:57 am
You young wannabees are long on mouth, short on ears and wouldn’t know a conservative if they bit you in the ass. Our true conservative trailblazers are rolling over in their graves. Is this the best we can debate when the future of my grandchildren are at stake? What you wear? Who flies in to endorse you? Give me salt of the earth servants who live up to their commitments, pay their bills, and believe expenditures have to be less than revenues. Give me people who make decisions based upon principle rather than polls. Give me people who have read the Constitution and believe in its divine and inspired wisdom. In the case of our next Governor, give me Nathan Deal.
logically, then...
August 10th, 2010
8:59 am
“A GOVERNMENT THAT CAN GIVE YOU ANYTHING CAN TAKE EVERYTHING and that should determine who we elect this year”
-=-=-=-==
THEN CLEARLY that leaves this brand of democrats of obama & co out!!!!
face truth and deal with it
August 10th, 2010
9:02 am
if you want nathan deal, you just cancelled out all thos other things you want?
Deal spent many years supposedly representing “us” but the ones he helped were his company, friends, etc. it’s Handel’s turn. let’s see what she does.
Dawgfan
August 10th, 2010
9:04 am
@Deal is a goofy bumpkin, illiterate huh? How many in your family have a college degree? I guarantee the Deal family has more college graduates. And last I checked, you don’t talk about something ON the picnic (not picknic) table, you talk about it AT the picnic table. While were at it, it’s Jay LENO and the word is SAVVY, not savy. Why don’t you come down from your ivory tower and see what REAL people are all about. But, I suppose it is easier for you to make fun of others than to look at yourself in the mirror and realize your shortcomings and inadequacies.
T Knight
August 10th, 2010
9:04 am
VOTE KAREN HANDEL TODAY!
VOTE KAREN HANDEL TODAY!
VOTE KAREN HANDEL TODAY!
For karen
August 10th, 2010
9:05 am
@ Fed up
“Deal did not say” – Yes, there is a BIG difference. Deal is a lawyer and politician.
You know they are lying when there mouth is moving.
As was said before – loosing politicians know they have to suck it up and at least give the appearance of supporting the winner. By whining about it not only once, but twice on a major televised debate, he has shown his true colors.
He will probably go fishing with the kids, which is OK by me, because its better than reverting to his roots and supporting Barnes.
Dawgfan
August 10th, 2010
9:08 am
@Deal is a goofy bumpkin, illiterate huh? How many in your family have a college degree? I guarantee the Deal family has more college graduates. And last I checked, you don’t talk about something ON the picnic (not picknic) table, you talk about it AT the picnic table. While we’re at it, it’s Jay LENO and the word is SAVVY, not savy. Why don’t you come down from your ivory tower and see what REAL people are all about. But, I suppose it is easier for you to make fun of others than to look at yourself in the mirror and realize your shortcomings and inadequacies.
9/12 Member
August 10th, 2010
9:11 am
To IMNO…..you are right that Georgia will never be a leader….as long as the Good Ole Boys are in charge and continue down the same path, WE THE PEOPLE just get more of the same.
I have just about lost all hope for our Country….Atlas is beginning to shrug.
And by the way, has Deal ever worked for a law that would force Congress to live under the laws they impose on us? Wouldn’t we all love to have THEIR benefits.
MtnDesertPaMan
August 10th, 2010
9:16 am
Hey Mr.Deal is a bumpkin: as a former GA resident with ” no dawg in this fight”, you’d be fortunate to have Nathan & his family represent you, I know Nathan from Rotary in Gainesville and living in Clermont and he’s a good man, purchased my first horses from him , no problems. Sounds like you want some slickster community organizer that loks good with no experience to run your state. You already have one of those running the U.S !
Dawgfan
August 10th, 2010
9:21 am
@MtnDesertPaMan…glad to see another person who knows what they are talking about.
Dawgfan
August 10th, 2010
9:28 am
@Aquagirl…what does it say to you when most of the people who have worked with Handel are endorsing Deal (Bill Bynre, her former Cobb County Chairman; Maurice Atkinson, former Bibb County Chairman…just two examples)? Her own hometown paper has now come out endorsing him over her. That says a lot about her if those who were for her for the longest time have now jumped ship.
GaBlue
August 10th, 2010
9:29 am
Nathan Deal thinks you’re stupid.
Kids: “Grandpa, why do you want to be Governor?”
ND: “Because the people in Washington D.C. are spending too much money, and I want to fight back!”
BZZZZZT! Wrong. Raise your hand if you think that’s the Governor’s job — as opposed to being a Congressman actually IN D.C. — or if you think that’s anyone’s actual motivation for seeking the office of Governor.
LYING to his own progeny to make you believe his lies. Disgraceful!
GA, the dumb state
August 10th, 2010
9:32 am
Did I hear that Karen Handel didn’t graduate high school? That would help explain why airhead, clusterhead Sarah Palin would stump for her–bimbos stick together. But in this state of GA, where the education success is so LOW, Handel will likely win. It all fits. And God knows the white woman vote will go to Handel. White men, where are ya’? You’re losing your power fast!
Citizen1
August 10th, 2010
9:32 am
I got a RoBo call from the Handle group last night but my caller ID said the call was coming from REDTOP MOUNTAIN LODGE!!! Wonder who is help Handle?
CHIEF OF SMOKE
August 10th, 2010
9:40 am
Deal is the conservative choice. It is that simple.
and he can beat Roy Barnes
Aquagirl
August 10th, 2010
9:46 am
@ Dawgfan, it says those people think they’ll be better off if Nathan Deal is elected. Whether anyone else is better off is a different matter.
Often what’s good for elected officials is not good for the rest of us.
Billy Joe Poteet
August 10th, 2010
9:51 am
@phil 7:51 am
“Educators- You are going to get furloughed, layed off, and degraded regardless of whose elected governor”
I agree with this statement for one reason: the budgetary crisis facing Georgia will require drastic actions be taken, and education will be on the table – as well as every other governmental service. The federal income tax will rise dramatically in the very near future and the unfunded mandates imposed on states by the federal government will also increase. This all adds up to much higher federal taxes for the taxpayer. Georgia, by law, can not spend what it doesn’t have. The bottom line is that the problems facing the states were and are created by an out-of-control congress and administration. I would venture a guess that the majority of teachers in this country voted for Obama and assisted in the election of the current democrat controlled congress. “Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it”.
Liberty1
August 10th, 2010
9:52 am
Why is there so much bias towards Karen Handel because she does not have a college degree. She has a lot of experience in county and state government. She worked at the national level with the Vice President in the early 90s.
Most of the people running our government, Federal and State have college degrees and look at how poorly they are run. We have massive debt and no common sense to get the house in order.
It is the over educated liberals and RINOs that are ruining out country. There are a lot of successful business people who do not have a college degree.
You may have a lot of book smart from a college education and not have one ounce of common sense.
Vote Handel
face truth and deal with it
August 10th, 2010
10:06 am
if education by the paper u hold in your hand trumps all why is it that so many with this degree fail where those with more experience succeed? especially within families even. grads with masters screw up where their parents without that degree are successful? there is much to be said for actual hands-on experience.
strive for a degree, but remember some without degrees are miles smarter than some with degrees.
and remember too, many of the great firms in this country who hired the ph.d’s etc. were companies started by men AND women without a degree – some didnt even finish high school, ON PAPER i.e., but as far as smarts went they held 25 degrees to every one their employee had.
the way i see it
August 10th, 2010
10:11 am
glenn beck didnt make it through the first year of college.
glenn beck without a doubt is one of the brightest minds out there.
yes, some of you would like to put him down but GLENN BECK IS BRILLIANT.
i do not knock going for an education but i also recognize i can be sold a bag of goods if i totally rely on what someone tells me they CAN do. show me what you are capable of. handel has shown she deserves to be where she is and she is an inspiration to people who were not able to officially finish college.
the way i see it
August 10th, 2010
10:13 am
Dawgfan, what does it say to you if the polls are endorsing handel?
logically speaking
August 10th, 2010
10:19 am
according to the narrative obma is suppose to be smart but where is the proof of it?
where did he learn that the way to get out of debt is to spend continue running up debt without any revenue coming in?
where did he come up with lowering the Military’s ability to respond to a crisis in these crazy times is best for the U.S. of America?
how smart is it to bring a lawsuite against a law where 71% of that State’s voters agree WITH the law, and the country on the whole support said law? will this endear you to voters to re-elect you?
Wreck
August 10th, 2010
10:24 am
I am voting Handel. Deal has too much baggage from a career in DC. Only Handel has any executive experience. Anyone that works in the private sector understands that experience trumps education every time. I don’t expect government workers or academics to understand that.
Knowitall
August 10th, 2010
10:42 am
We need to get a Handel on our economy. I’m not a Palin fan (though I don’t hate her like so many of you do), but I’m voting for Karen for 2 reasons.
One – she’s a woman. Yes, I would like to see what a woman as governor will do. Women tend to be more thoughtful and level-headed and are great at multi-tasking. FEMALE POWER – YES!!
Two – she is a strong woman who overcame a terrible childhood, pulled herself up by her bootstraps and became successful. OK. She didn’t get a college degree – big deal! That doesn’t mean she stopped learning and achieving.
No Deal for me!
Dawgfan
August 10th, 2010
10:42 am
@The way I see it…I have seen 2 polls for Deal and 1 for Handel recently. The one this blog is for shows Deal with a 2 point advantage, Insider Advantage showed them tied and another I saw the other day had Deal with about a 5 point lead. I don’t see any poll with her having a huge lead.
john litleton
August 10th, 2010
10:47 am
I plan to vote for Nathan Deal today as will my wife and all my children. I think he is the best man for the Governor of Georgia. Handle has used to many lies on DEAL for me to vote for her. She would be the poorest Governor sence Jimmy Carter.
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August 10th, 2010
11:10 am
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chc4
August 10th, 2010
11:42 am
Barnes won’t beat either Deal or Handel. Funny that the Dems best candidate has already been rejected by GA voters once after seeing what he brings to the table. This time won’t be any different.
Aquagirl
August 10th, 2010
11:49 am
Ya ever notice how it’s men blathering about how their family will vote for Nathan Deal, exactly like them? What’s up with the control freak attitude? Move to Afghanistan, where you can cut off your wife’s ears and nose if she doesn’t do your bidding. You’ll fit right in.
puzzled
August 10th, 2010
12:24 pm
i know we all have our favorites but when you have a better choice than deal i am puzzled at all these who knowingly have informtion on deal’s confirmed unethical behavior can say he is the better candidate. this is like voting for obama a second time when you have all the information. first time i can understand but when you know what you know what is it that allows you to do otherwise?
tradition? pride? honestly, i’m puzzled.
i see enthusiastic turnout. cant wait to hear official percentage of voters who came out today.
the way i see it
August 10th, 2010
12:30 pm
Dawgfan, i do not see her with a huge lead either. my comment is based on the momentum from palin and the amount of people that came out for her compared to deal’s.
i just saw another poll that has them neck and neck (i forgot which one right now), but just my assessment based on the motivation of the physical humans showing up for these two. deal’s people just seem a little sluggish (again, just from what i personally have observed).
going to be exiciting no matter which one it is. it’s a great day all around.
NOT-Aquagirl
August 10th, 2010
12:43 pm
Did you notice that your feminist friends like Knowitall (above) are voting for Handel just because she is a woman? Handel has injected gender with the “mama grizzly” routine. What would any man want to vote for a candidate who tell as man to “put on your big boy pants” or the she needs to kick around “the good ole boys”. People like” Knowitall” obviously know very little and are voting on emotion and gender….no objectivity whatsoever. If you don’t value a college education, so be it, If you don’t mind people who are angy, defensive and who call every opponent “corrupt, then go ahead and keep the comfort blanket on. But don’t expect normal people with reasonable self esteem to overlook Handels serious character flaws. The woman lacks people skills and her “my way or the high way” approach would make it difficult for anyone to work with her.
Billy Joe Poteet
August 10th, 2010
12:45 pm
@Aquagirl
” it’s men blathering about how their family will vote for Nathan Deal,”
The men who say that are probably very insecure about their maleness! When my wife and I talked about politics, we nearly always had reached the same conclusions. Our philosophies of life and politics were nearly identical making for a very harmonious relationship. We respected each other so much that neither would speak for the other. Apparently that is a very rare thing according to many of these postings that I read!
Deductive Reasoning
August 10th, 2010
12:54 pm
Barnes had his chance as Governor. He’s done.
Handel is negative, emotional and not qualified.
Deal is the lesser of three evils. He knows the law and has a lot of experience.
Vote with your brain, not with your emotions. Vote Deal.
Deductive Reasoning
August 10th, 2010
1:00 pm
Aquagirl,
My girlfriend started following Deal and chose him weeks before I had made a decision. Stop being so mean and feminist. Go hang out in Cynthia Tucker’s blog.
Jayne M. Barker
August 10th, 2010
1:09 pm
I have two masters degrees but my life experiences are what I rely on the most. A degree will get your foot in the front door but if you can’t cut it; you may be shown the back door out by someone like Bill Gates…Does Casey Cagle have a degree? He seems to be orchestrating
this “Battle of Atlanta.” His “flight into illness” kept him from running for governor at the last minute??? Remember the $174,000 salary
and the $300,000 annually from his “small business” Gainesville Salvage?
Skip
August 10th, 2010
1:23 pm
Don’t you just hate it when you wake up and find you’re still in Georgia?
Billy Joe Poteet
August 10th, 2010
1:35 pm
@Skip
Yep, I do love it. If you don’t, you should really consider locating elsewhere. A big change of zip code might just be what the doctor ordered for you!
Nauseous
August 10th, 2010
1:37 pm
Aquagirl is without question a paid Handel staffer or a brainwashed sycophant-it is certainly one or the other. The give-away is the regular sarcastic, mean-spirited and accusatory remarks leveled against anyone who makes a negative post about her candidate. Obviously, she fits right in.
Keep the attacks coming, Aquagirl. Georgia will be so much better because of it.
Nauseous
August 10th, 2010
1:43 pm
What is even more nauseating is that Karen Handel has found a way to run a campaign as the anti-establishment candidate as the establishment candidate. If she squeaks by this evening, there isn’t a lot of hope for Georgia, not only because she is one step closer to control, but more because it is quantitative proof that the resdients of the State of Georgia, by and large, are an electorate of suckers. Total suckers who will believe anything.
I am holding out hope that the hourglass will expire on the wicked witch this evening.
No Slippery Handels
August 10th, 2010
2:05 pm
The people sniffed out that Oxendine was not a good candidate and will likely do the same with Handel. Sarah Palin, thanks for showing us your intelligence and insight.
Knowitall
August 10th, 2010
2:12 pm
Talk about mean- spirited and nasty remarks! I made my comments without name calling and belittling anyone elses’ remarks. Why can’t you Deal fans do the same? You men just can’t stand the thought of a woman in charge. Don’t get your boxes in a bundle – it’ll be ok.
This is the first time I’ve ever been accused of being a feminist. HA! If you only knew me…
DK
August 10th, 2010
2:16 pm
Nathan Deal is the best politicians I’ve ever had represent me and I was honored to give him my vote this morning. I’ve told this before but I’ll tell it again because it says so much about his character and leadership.
About eight years ago, my brother lobbied congress for a change to telecommunications law. He spoke to all 535 members of the senate and the house, or their chiefs of staff. Out of 535, only 2 were asked how the proposed law change my brother was seeking would benefit their constituents. Nathan Deal was one of the two. The rest were self-interested in one way or another. I still remember my brother’s disillusionment with the political process and his telling me that it appeared that my congressman was one of the few that were worth a damn.
To the “lady” that wants to berate men because they mention how their families will vote, did it ever occur to you that maybe they know how their families intend to vote because that talk to them and listen to what they say in return. I asked my wife how she intended to vote after seeing competing ads on TV a few days ago. She looked at me and said that there was no way she’d vote for anyone that accepts an endorsement from a twit like Sarah Palin. Someone who is so stupid that they can’t even name the flagship paper of the state of which they are the sitting governor is the last person I want to rely on to determine how I’ll vote.
Take heart though Aquagirl. You too could have a man to discuss such things with if you were not such a ball breaker. Looks are not very important either. Even Karen Handel has a man. I wonder in what pasture he found her grazing? Hopefully the voters of Georgia will send her back to it today. I just hope it has plenty of mud. We all know how much Karen loves to throw that stuff.
JD
August 10th, 2010
2:30 pm
Here is my impersonation of every Nathan Deal TV ad:
“Karen Handel…GAYS!!…GAYS!!…GAYS!!”….”Nathan Deal…Bible…Jesus”…….”Karen Handel…GAYS!!…GAYS!!…GAYS!!”….”Nathan Deal…Bible…Jesus”
This should tell you exactly how devoid of ideas Deal is. He cannot rebut Karen’s positions on real issues because it would expose him as a fraud/RINO/Rockefeller Repub, and so he resorts to the cheap campaign tactic of riling up the homophobic rubes who still think it’s OK to control the lives of others because their religion says so.
A vote for Deal will guarantee GA’s continued lagging behind the rest of the region and nation in economic progress.
Knowitall
August 10th, 2010
2:49 pm
Re: my previous comment – case in point – comments from DK. He just couldn’t help himself from wallowing in the mud, name calling and demeaning Aqua girl, Sarah Palin and Karen Handel. DK, are you sure there aren’t any other women out there you want to berate??
Dawgfan
August 10th, 2010
2:52 pm
@The way I see it…one thing that has to be remembered when comparing the crowds, the rally for Deal with Huckabee was Sunday and was announced Friday afternoon (less than 2 days prior). The Handel rally Palin was announced about 2 weeks prior to it happening. I do think that had a lot to do with it. It concerns me that some folks are more concerned with “making history” as Sarah Palin even called it, instead of voting for the best candidate.
Cindy
August 10th, 2010
3:36 pm
To all of the Handel groupies that keep defending how great it is that she never earned a college degree: Unlike Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh who are entertainers in the private sector, a governor leads the state in education and is a role model. Demonstrating minimal competency in education is so basic to your qualifications. Karen Handel has chosen over the last 30 years NOT to earn a bachelors degree so it demonstrates that it is something that she does NOT value for herself.
No one doubts that there are some successful people who are not college graduates but it is unheard of in 2010 for anyone in a “leadership” role. Get it???? Stop defending the indefensible. Just come out and say it ….that you don’t think a college education is valuable. If Karen Handel doesn’t need one, so shouldn’t anyone else in the state… that was Karens backward answer as to why she would be best for the Hope Scholarship program..Added to that blooper, was Palin touting how Handel had a “great education”. This proved to me that Palin hadn’t even had a chance to look over Karen Handel’s bio on the plane. If you want to vote for an angry, uneducated “mama grizzly” who has alienated all law makers in the State, then go ahead. But let’s not pretend that there is more there than the rest of the world can see.
Ayn Rand was right
August 10th, 2010
3:55 pm
Gosh I wish I could join the conversation, but I must step out to cast my vote for Ms. Handel!
Food For Thought
August 10th, 2010
4:01 pm
If Nathan Deal had run against a man, he would have worked his campaign differently. As it was when a Deal supporter knocked on my door, he actually had te nerve to say “little lady, Nathan
deserves to be Governor” Ummm. “no he doesn’t, he needs to earn my vote”.
That attitude has been a mainstay with deal all along.
My son and I voted Handle.
DK
August 10th, 2010
4:10 pm
Knowitall,
Obviously you don’t know as much as you think. I didn’t demean Aquagirl Sarah Palin and Karen Handel, they did that all by themselves, I just called attention to it.
BTW, you can stick your feminist garbage where the sun doesn’t shine. There is no bigger proponent for woman’s rights that I am. My wife is a “pioneer” in a field that was once dominated by men and I’ve supported her every step of the way, even when she was my boss at work. Apparently, unlike you, I will not practice bigoted behavior by voting for someone simply because of their gender.
Aquagirl jumped to conclusions and relied upon her prejustices to demean another poster and I called it like I saw it. Handel started the name calling in all of this so she gets it in return from me. To quote her, “you need to put your big boy pants on” and get over it. As for Sarah Palin, she is just another John Edwards with half the brains. I don’t call them names because their women, I call them names because they deserve it. I have no clue what your gender you are (I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that you’re not sure either). I call you an idiot because you deserve it.
I don’t give a damn about the candidate’s sex. I intend to vote for the best candidate, and in this race that person is our next governor, Nathan Deal. If you don’t like it, “you need to put your big boy pants on” and get over it.
Billy Joe Poteet
August 10th, 2010
4:16 pm
These are a few of the issues that I consider to be most important:
“• Pro-Life: Nathan Deal is the ONLY gubernatorial candidate in the runoff who has been endorsed by Georgia Right To Life. After vetting his opponent, both the Georgia Right To Life AND the Susan B. Anthony Group turned her requests for endorsements down. The Susan B. Anthony Group endorses female candidates nationwide who meet their pro-life criteria, and their criteria is much more liberal in definition than that of Georgia Right To Life. Nathan believes that sanctity of life begins at conception and continues to natural death and that there is only ONE reason to end that life prior to birth . . . if the life of the mother is endangered.”
Does Nathan Deal have a magical plan to cause the Supreme Court to reverse its’ decision in Roe v. Wade? If so, why hasn’t he pursued this during his 18 years as a Congressman? Are we to believe that it is necessary for him to be elected Governor in order for his plan to work? If he has no such plan, why is being pro-life even an issue in this election?
“• Illegal Immigration: Nathan led the fight in the US Congress against illegal immigration. Numbers USA is a well respected group that represents the rights of US citizens, including legal immigrants, around the country and rates candidates for office based on their records. This link to their site tells the full story of why Nathan Deal stands head and shoulders against his opponent on this issue.
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/elections/races/state-local/Georgia”
What results has he to show for having “led the fight in the US Congress against illegal immigration”? I have never seen Nathan Deal, even in Gainesville which is awash with illegal aliens, state his case against illegal aliens. What legislation has he personally sponsored or co-sponsored that would require the Federal government to enforce their own laws?
“• Jobs: Nathan Deal is the only candidate to put forward a detailed plan to help businesses kick-start our economy, putting Georgians back to work.”
Why did he wait until now to put forth this plan? As a Congressman, could he not have acted sooner to help Georgians who are out of work? If he did not think it his place as a Congressman to do so, could he have shared that plan with the current Governor? Why has he made Georgians wait, lose their homes and default on other debts when he had the answer to the problem? Does this mean he is only concerned about Georgians when he becomes the Governor, should that occur?
DK
August 10th, 2010
4:26 pm
Ayn Rand was right,
Another woman that was an idiot. The rich keep getting richer and paying less of their fair share in taxes while their shrills (like Ayn Rand) whine about the little bit of taxes they do still pay. Middle America is growing tired making peanuts while the CEO’s of the companies they work for make as much in an hour as they make all year. Before all of the Boortz-numbed morons start telling me I’m wrong, first explain why it’s fair and proper that Warren Buffet makes nearly 50 million dollars and eschews lawful tax breaks and yet only pays 17% of his income in taxes while his secretary who makes 60 thousand pays 30%.
Instead of shrugging, Atlas is soon going to be running for his life if the trend continues. The greed of our rich class is destroying this country and Ayn Rand disciples shoulder a large amount of the blame.
Billy in Savannah
August 10th, 2010
4:39 pm
Elaine, again you GOPers show your education. The blue flag Barnes flew during his administration was actually the historical flag of our state carried into battle by the homeguard facing the Northern invaders.
DK
August 10th, 2010
4:42 pm
Billy Joe Poteet,
As for #1 and #2, political interest groups who make these issues their life tell you that he’s the one they pick to take up their fight, but you know better than they do? What has Karen Handel done? You state that these issues are important to you so I’m sure you’ll have no problem coming up with answers to these two questions that will make all of us see the light that these action groups who live these issues can’t see.
As for #3, what can one congressman in the minority do to pass legislation? Blaming him for the current economic crisis is absolute garbage. By the way, what has Karen Handel done about the problem? Nothing! She’s too busy smearing fellow republicans to come up with her plan.
Liberty1
August 10th, 2010
4:49 pm
DK
To answer you question about Warren Buffett and his secretary: I would say that there is nothing fair about our tax system. It needs a total overhaul. It is a patch work of petty politicians manitulating the tax code to pander for votes. There needs to be a new easier tax code written something like the fair tax or a flat tax. No one in their right mind can possibly find anything in our tax code fair to anyone.
Cindy:
As much as the left loves to divided this country between the rich and the less fortunate – you would like to divide us between those who have a college degree and those who do not.
A college degree is nothing more than 4 years of additional school. Much of the four years are wasted with drugs and wild parties.
There are very good usefull people in leadership rolls all over our country that do great things without a college degree.
Only Doctors, chemist, architechs engineers and the like would need the four + years. Being governor is a lot like runing a business. You have a budget and a staff of employees. You put forth a plan and execute the plan. It is not brain surgery and you are not building a high rise or bridges.
You are there as a public servant looking out for the best interest of the people of the state. Keeping taxes low and making government run efficently.
Vote Handle.
Jimmie
August 10th, 2010
5:03 pm
In my neck of the woods, turnout is really high – pushing numbers seen in primary – that is good news for Nathan because this is Deal Country. This will all be over in 5 or 6 hours – mercifully for the state. If Deal wins, he and Roy can get down to a discussion of serious issues. If Karen wins, get ready for more negativity and a fractured GOP in November. People where I am from aren’t going to support her in droves that much is for sure. Roy has a natural base of support of 40 to 42 percent – I think because Karen has been so divisive and nasty (she has done everything to Nathan other than drive up to Gainesville and kick his dog (probably because she doesn’t know where Gainesville is) she will lose a fair share of Republican voters come November. Roy can make up the 8% he will need from Independents and disaffected Republicans. But take heart – if Roy wins in November, he won’t be able to do much.
Billbert
August 10th, 2010
5:08 pm
I’m voting for Barnes. Both of the GOP choices (as usual) are all about social issues, when we need to focus like a laser on the economy.
knowitall
August 10th, 2010
6:04 pm
DK
Wow! You just can’t stop with the diarrhea of the mouth. You are one angry dude. Now I see from your response to “Ayn Rand was right”, that you also suffer from wealth envy. “Idiots…morons…greedy rich class”. Real nice.
BTY I’m all woman, very conservative, and, yes, rich.
TWAYNE
August 10th, 2010
6:15 pm
Is it Roy looks like Nathan or Nathan looks like Roy. Either way without KAREN this state is headed for a down fall KAREN IS GOOD FOR GEORGIA
Bear
August 10th, 2010
6:52 pm
Most people don’t get it!!! I voted for Karen Handel because the powers that be, with their fancy degrees in Washington are selling us all down the river!!!! Maybe it’s time for just some plain ole’ common sense!!! Quit trashing Americans,esp. the achievers!!! It’s about honor and decency and the Constitution!!! I believe she will help restore that! Who needs a fancy degree to know what that is?
The Voice of Reason
August 11th, 2010
3:13 am
LOL. Hey Bear:
Since when does having a better education equate to “selling us all down the river”?
Do you really believe that kind of reasoning is sound? So, we should elect people that fail to obtain a better education in the hope that they have been able to magically garner a greater sense of wisdom, common sense and leadership through ignorance?
I think that a sense of ethics is independent of one’s education. I also think it’s fairly obvious that having a better education is an important and necessary asset for anyone who serves as Governor.
GA-9th Alternative
August 11th, 2010
7:20 am
@ 9/12 Member ~ A GOVERNMENT THAT CAN GIVE YOU ANYTHING CAN TAKE EVERYTHING. ~ I agree completely. In response to the taxes, I did not specifically say property taxes. Any payment made to the government is a tax by name or otherwise. My facts are based on comments by a representative of the Georgia EPD who wishes to remain anonymous and the EPAs annual summaries from the past two decades, resulting in millions of dollars in fines from the EPA. The city of Atlanta has been dumping wastewater and improperly filtered reclamation water in the lower Chattahoochee for years. The city council, Mayor’s office, and Fulton County have fought to have the state pick up the tab in exchange for muted campaigning against re-election bids from Zill Miller, to Barnes, to Purdue.
@ Dawgfan ~ Thank you.
@ all others ~ 3000+ people did not attend a rally for Handel. They attended a Palin concert hoping for a wardrobe malfunction.
GA-9th Alternative
August 11th, 2010
7:21 am
Oops… early morning typo: The city of Atlanta has been dumping wastewater and improperly filtered reclamation water in the lower Chattahoochee for years, resulting in millions of dollars in fines from the EPA.