Your morning jolt: Karen Handel’s hammering of Nathan Deal costs her a big check

As evidenced by his quick change of mind on the pursuit of federal funding for education, many of Nathan Deal’s wounds have been self-inflicted.

But the hammering that Karen Handel, the frontrunner in the GOP runoff for governor, has given Deal over the past week – in TV ads, in a weekend mailer, and in a Fox5 debate – has turned off some very specific Republicans.

Mark DeMoss is a Buckhead public relations specialist – Franklin Graham is a client – who served as Mitt Romney’s liaison to evangelicals during the 2008 presidential campaign. Romney, as you well know, has endorsed Handel.

DeMoss was ready to do the same. We’ll let him pick up the rest of the story in a Monday letter he wrote to Handel:

Dear Karen:

I’m sorry I have not returned your recent phone calls as I have been on vacation for most of the past month. I returned home last night fully intending to go online and make a maximum contribution to your runoff campaign when I saw your “Investigation Journal” mailing in my mailbox. I was saddened to see your campaign has resorted to this.

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Karen, I can not and will not support this kind of campaigning with my money; I’m sorry. While I have several problems with this tactic, my primary issue with it may not be what you think.

Certainly many people in this country (including me) are tired and turned off by “attack ads” and “negative campaigning;” but I have a strong objection to this on different grounds. I believe that if the strongest case you can make for supporting you is that your opponent is “one of the most corrupt members of Congress,” that is a sad commentary on you and your qualifications to be governor of our state. Is this really the most compelling case why we should support Karen Handel?

I actually think this strategy reflects more poorly on you than it does on Nathan Deal. I don’t solicit business for my public relations firm using this tactic and I am repulsed by politicians who solicit support primarily on the grounds that their opponent is basically a “bum.”

I realize political consultants routinely advise candidates like you that this strategy works, unpleasant as it may be, and they may be right. But it doesn’t work with me and I’m disappointed that you chose to use it. I think the voters of this state deserve better.

Replied Dan McLagan, spokesman for the Handel campaign:

“We’re sorry that Mr. DeMoss feels this way and we hope that he has already sent similar letters to Nathan Deal and the other groups who have spent $1 million attacking Karen and distorting her record in the primary. We know that he would not want to create a perception that there’s a double standard in play.

“In fact, the AJC and Office of Congressional Ethics should get one as well since the whole piece consisted of quotes from them with little editorial commentary from us.”

But in an interview on Tuesday, DeMoss said that, in cases of unbridled attacks, truth isn’t necessarily a defense.

“Even if every word is certifiably true, not in dispute by either side, I still think it’s a lousy tactic, and it is not a compelling tactic to make you our governor. That’s what I would say to her,” he said.

DeMoss marveled that candidates are the only American commodity that is sold by tearing down the competition. You don’t see Holiday Inn sell rooms with charges that the Marriott down the street has bedbugs.

This isn’t the first time that DeMoss has used his checkbook to demand more politeness in political campaigning. This spring, DeMoss announced he would withhold contributions from the Republican National Committee, after word leaked of an RNC fund-raising slideshow that portrayed President Barack Obama in Joker make-up.

For the last year or so, DeMoss has teamed with Lanny Davis, a prominent Washington Democrat and Hillary Clinton supporter, to form something called the Civility Project. It is not going well.

In May, the pair sent personal letters to 50 governors and every member of Congress, asking them to sign a pledge to keep conversation civil in political debate.

“I didn’t expect a tidal wave of responses. But we have, to date, one member of Congress who signed this thing. Frank Wolf of Virginia. Since then, nobody has responded to it,” he said.

“Honestly, I’m not sure what I’m going to do with the project. I may just shut it down and go on to other things,” a discouraged DeMoss said. “It should be easier to sign than a no-tax pledge.”

***

The Savannah Morning News this morning quotes U.S. Rep. Jack Kingston as saying that former state senator Eric Johnson of Savannah, who finished third in the July 20 Republican primary for governor, is backing Nathan Deal in runoff.

But other than saying on Facebook that he “likes” Deal – does that remind anyone else of middle school? – Johnson has kept mum. Kingston says he spoke with Johnson earlier this week, after Johnson returned from a vacation.

***

In an interview with the Post-Searchlight newspaper in Bainbridge, Democratic nominee for governor Roy Barnes made prominent mention of jet fuel and candy, though not together.

From the newspaper:

[Barnes] said one of the greatest needs with the number of peanuts that are produced here is a candy company, such as Mars, M&Ms or Hershey, which could produce their product near where a key ingredient—peanuts or pecans—are grown.

Another item he would like to push is giving preferences to Georgia companies.

He said he noticed when renewing his hunting license recently that the company issuing Georgia hunting licenses was from Missouri.

“I think Georgia companies should get a preference within a very narrow margin within one to three percent if they employ Georgia workers. We’ve never gotten in to that, and I think this the necessary time,” he said.

But Delta will be paying attention to this portion of the article:

The state has said the economy won’t normalize for approximately five years, which Barnes said seems a little too long.

“Assuming you have a little growth, you sweep that off to education. You set your priority. And then if you need to, you suspend some sales tax exemptions for two to three years,” Barnes said.

The state should look at some of its exemptions, which could add up to $6.1 billion, as an item it could recoup some money from.
He cited aviation fuel.

“Why should airlines not have to pay sales tax when your delivery trucks have to pay for sales and motor fuel taxes,” Barnes said. “Those are some of the things you can look at.”

***

One day after a joint House and Senate hearing on the state of the HOPE scholarship and the Georgia Lottery, Senate Democratic Leader Robert Brown of Macon declared that he will call for a return to family income limits for those receiving college scholarships.

“This gambling money was not intended to supplant traditional education dollars nor provide an entitlement program,” Brown said Tuesday.

Setting the family income limit at or below 600 percent of the federal poverty level would ensure that the program would remain financially solvent, Brown said.

The press release from the Senator contains a not-so-sly dig at conservative Christians on the Republican side:

Senator Brown said faith leaders who remain opposed to gambling dollars for education can replace the HOPE money for students under their leadership with other private dollars.

This would help prevent families of faith from yielding to the temptation of gambling dollars. By expanding private options, it would provide more funding for these families while making more funds available for families not inhibited by religious sanctions.

***

The Marietta Daily Journal has this bit of good news for one candidate in the Republican runoff for attorney general:

The Georgia Christian Coalition has given attorney general hopeful Sam Olens its highest rating, A+.

Olens faces Preston Smith of Rome in the Republican runoff for attorney general.

A well-known political consultant told the Journal that the Christian Coalition endorsed Olens because of recent headlines revealing Smith’s extramarital affair, although GCC president Jerry Luquire said his group’s selection of Olens is not an opinion of his opponent.

“Mr. Olens earned the highest rating by his conservative, pro-family work in his elective career. This includes his support of public prayer against the (American Civil Liberties Union),” Luquire said.

***

In a Tuesday e-mail to supporters, Mary Norwood has finally thrown in the towel. Said the independent candidate for Fulton County Commission chairman, who has been refused a place on the November ballot:

“After the setback at Fulton County, I conferred with my local and national teams and discussed the scenarios of recourse in various courts. At the end of an extensive and exhaustive review, I determined that the judge’s decision would stand….

“I have had many ask if I will run as a write-in candidate, but the reality is that it would be not be possible to win a county-wide race as a write-in candidate, even with your support.

“Just as our laws make it extraordinarily challenging to run outside the two-party system as an Independent candidate, garnering enough votes–to win–from voters who would “write in” a name that isn’t on the ballot isn’t feasible or realistic.

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52 comments Add your comment

deegee

August 4th, 2010
9:23 am

I am so glad that Mary Norwood has finally thrown in the towel. Seriously, she has a “national team” with whom she confers?

lmno

August 4th, 2010
9:28 am

I am of the opinion that the negative attack ads that Nathan Deal, John Oxendine, and Eric Johnson leveled against Karen Handel in the primary are the biggest reasons she won. I believe people were turned off by the ads. So, I find it surprising that no one on Karen Handel’s team picked up on that.

????

August 4th, 2010
9:31 am

Here he is Flip Flop Deal, Just like he was for it before he was against it, how he is against it before he was for it. But for sure he is for NO BID ARRANGRMENTS.. Flip Flop Deal too unstable for GEORGIA.

“Hours after saying he would reject Race to the Top money for schools, Republican gubernatorial hopeful Nathan Deal reversed course Tuesday and said he would keep the federal funding.

At a morning candidate forum, Deal said he would decline the grant money because accepting it would require the state to sign on to a standardized classroom curriculum. Later, Deal told The Associated Press that he was incorrect and that such a curriculum is not a condition of the program.

“I have to stand corrected,” Deal said in a telephone interview. “I would keep the money.”

Karen Handel, Deal’s opponent in the Aug. 10 runoff, told business leaders at Tuesday’s forum that she would accept the money — which could total $400 million — if Georgia is chosen.”

gatormathis

August 4th, 2010
9:32 am

“DeMoss marveled that candidates are the only American commodity that is sold by tearing down the competition. You don’t see Holiday Inn sell rooms with charges that the Marriott down the street has bedbugs.”

Best comment I have saw in a while…simple..easy to understand…very true and correct..

Jon

August 4th, 2010
9:35 am

Barnes better be careful. You don’t mess around with Mother Delta.

You Asked

August 4th, 2010
9:37 am

I never believe the “I have always been a supporter BUT…” line on the blogs and it still doesn’t ring true in a letter.

Jessica

August 4th, 2010
9:42 am

Is DeMoss the last decent person left in Georgia politics? He’s the only person I know with some standards!!!

Ted

August 4th, 2010
9:47 am

OK – so Mr DeMoss is unhappy with Karen.
So who leaked it to the press? And why did he comment to the AJC instead of saying “its a private letter”? As I said before, another special interest group trying to get publicity!!! He & Lanny Davis are buds?? And we just happen to mention this to the press, how convenient.
As Karen’s spokeperson said – I am sure you wrote letters to the other campaigns. Waiting,

Waiting,

Oh, silence.

fearsells

August 4th, 2010
9:56 am

I agree with everything Mr. DeMoss conveyed in this letter, it is well said. However, considering he is a PR representative, and considering his letter and the Handel response made it into the newspapers, it turned him into the same negative campaigner of which he self righteously complains, does it not? If it were actually a heartfelt request by a saddened supporter, how did it get publicity? Talk is cheap when the check never has to materialize. So who did the contibution check go to?

bobfromacworth

August 4th, 2010
9:58 am

Demoss must have never looked at automobile ads on tv, cause they tear down the other guys car all day long.

Jasperite

August 4th, 2010
9:59 am

When Handel denounces the resolution to threaten sesession she can have my vote.

Billy Joe Poteet

August 4th, 2010
10:00 am

@You Asked
@Ted

Both of you are correct in your analysis of this situation. The timing and the making of this public tells me that he is supporting Deal. There is no other possible explanation for it. To me, it brings his ethics into question.

interested observer

August 4th, 2010
10:09 am

Why do we care who endorses or opposes who? Are voters incapable of making decisions on their own?

Drew

August 4th, 2010
10:10 am

@lmno- For the record, Eric Johnson didn’t run any attack ads.

Fred

August 4th, 2010
10:10 am

I think it just goes to show you that the people that know Nathan are supporting Nathan (like our Republican congressional delegation), the people that know Nathan and Karen are supporting Nathan (like our state republican house and senate caucus and now, Eric Johnson), and the people that are getting to know Karen are getting really turned off by her attitude and will ultimately support Nathan. Roy Barnes is going to clean her plow if she is elected in this run-off – bank on it. Rassmussen in 4 polls over the course of the race shows it, and I can tell you from speaking to a lot of Republican voters that Karen’s actions in this race have turned their stomachs to such an extent that they will vote for Roy. Now you can say they are RINOs and all that other blather and lather, but these are people who voted for and stroked big checks to Republicans in the past, and they are either going to sit it out or actively back Roy because they are fed up with the sewer tactics of the Handel campaign. It is really beneath contempt what is on display.

Churchill's MOM

August 4th, 2010
10:17 am

When will women get equal rights in this society? For weeks before the primary Nathan Deal ran millions of dollars of negative ads against Karen Handel and it was just fine. How Karen Handel is telling the truth about Nathan Deal and his backers are mad. If Karen was a man, everyone would just say boys will be boys but no because she is a woman it’s wrong.

My vote goes to the honest woman Karen Handel.

SmartVoter

August 4th, 2010
10:32 am

You Asked:
“I never believe the “I have always been a supporter BUT…” line on the blogs and it still doesn’t ring true in a letter.”

Another cynical whackjob explains why this country is going downhill fast.

HC

August 4th, 2010
10:36 am

Deal had it right the first time.

Lots of federal strings in Race to the Top above and beyond the National Standards. Deal sort of just threw teachers under the bus by supporting it regarding merit pay and several other issues.

Here is the link to the application – take a look

http://gov.georgia.gov/vgn/images/portal/cit_79369762/155733684Race%20to%20the%20Top%20App.pdf

Really do have to think he didn’t realize just how far into the push for RttT the Hall County School System is and reversed when he found out. Schofield has already committed the system to it if it comes through as one of the 26 districts in support of it. He is also one of the planners and writers of the GA RttT application.

This makes no sense in a county that is as conservative and pro local control and less big government as the Gainesville-Hall community.

One more thing that Deal had right the first time: There is a stipulation in the RttT application that links it to Common National Standards and Curriculum (The GA Dept of Education just did it early to setthe stage for RttT).

From page 57 of the application:

(B)(1) Developing and adopting common standards (40 points) The extent to which the State has demonstrated its commitment to adopting a common set of high-quality standards, evidenced by (as set forth in Appendix B)— (i) The State’s participation in a consortium of States that— (20 points) (a) Is working toward jointly developing and adopting a common set of K-12 standards (as defined in this notice) that are supported by evidence that they are internationally benchmarked and build toward college and career readiness by the time of high school graduation; and (b) Includes a significant number of States; and (ii) — (20 points) (a) For Phase 1 applications, the State’s high-quality plan demonstrating its commitment to and progress toward adopting a common set of K-12 standards (as defined in this notice) by August 2, 2010, or, at a minimum, by a later date in 2010 specified by the State, and to implementing the standards thereafter in a well-planned way; or (b) For Phase 2 applications, the State’s adoption of a common set of K-12 standards (as defined in this notice) by August 2, 2010, or, at a minimum, by a later date in 2010 specified by the State in a high-quality plan toward which the State has made significant progress, and its commitment to implementing the standards thereafter in a well-planned way.8 In the text box below, the State shall describe its current status in meeting the criterion. The narrative or attachments shall also include, at a minimum, the evidence listed below, and how each piece of evidence demonstrates the State’s success in meeting the criterion. The narrative and attachments may also include any additional information the State believes will be helpful to peer reviewers. For attachments included in the Appendix, note in the narrative the location where the attachments can be found. Evidence for (B)(1)(i): A copy of the Memorandum of Agreement, executed by the State, showing that it is part of a standards consortium. A copy of the final standards or, if the standards are not yet final, a copy of the draft standards and anticipated date for completing the standards. Documentation that the standards are or will be internationally benchmarked and that, when well-implemented, will help to ensure that students are prepared for college and careers. The number of States participating in the standards consortium and the list of these States.
Evidence for (B)(1)(ii): For Phase 1 applicants: A description of the legal process in the State for adopting standards, and the State’s plan, current progress, and timeframe for adoption. For Phase 2 applicants: Evidence that the State has adopted the standards. Or, if the State has not yet adopted the standards, a description of the legal process in the State for adopting standards and the State’s plan, current progress, and timeframe for adoption.

I guess Deal supports this now?

Dumb way to change direction. Flip flop after speaking to 1 person with a vested interest – the Hall Schools Superintendent.

HC

August 4th, 2010
10:39 am

Check out the very telling article in the Gainesville Times here:

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/section/154/article/36106/

Fred

August 4th, 2010
10:42 am

Nathan has stayed positive the entire campaign, that is because he actually has a plan to lead. Unlike Karen, who will get there and figure it out once she has captured the prize or do what her lobbyist handlers instruct her to do. It is my understanding that Karen has never served out a complete term in any elected post, she just keeps hopping up the ladder (sort of like our current president) to the next rung up – means she leaves no record, has no time to enact any policies or oversee any positive changes, but springboards up the ladder – I hear she has national ambitions. Nothing wrong with ambition, but unbridled ambition can lead people to get into the mud like we have seen Karen do here. It is a shame, because until I saw this side of her, I thought she had real promise and although I supported Nathan, I could have pulled the lever for Karen – but after this, I don’t think I can support her in November if she wins the runoff. My sense of right and wrong just will not let me support this kind of ends justifies the means style of politics.

Jay

August 4th, 2010
10:44 am

“DeMoss marveled that candidates are the only American commodity that is sold by tearing down the competition.”

Wow, this guy must not get out much. But what should I expect from someone that willingly consorts with that hack-for-hire Lanny Davis.

Beyond The Rhetoric

August 4th, 2010
11:03 am

Mark DeMoss is not the only Handel supporter to jump ship. Maurice Atkinson, Bibb County co-chairman for Handel, resigned in an Open Letter on August 2nd. Atkinson, a former State Committeeman and member of the Board of Tax Assessors in Bibb county, is well known and respected throughout the Georgia Republican Party.

The open letter, explaining why he can no longer support Handel for taking “the low road, completely accusing EVERYONE of being a crook”, can be found on the WMAZ, Channel 13 website: http://www.13wmaz.com/news/pdf/gagovrace.pdf

And by the way, the ‘attack’ website that Handel referenced during Sunday’s debate, in accusations against Deal, is located at http://www.dealdifference.com/.

lmno

August 4th, 2010
11:04 am

“Nathan has stayed positive the entire campaign, that is because he actually has a plan to lead.”

I apologize if I am mistaken, but wasn’t Deal the campaign that ran that whole “Karen Handel says she hates gays, but dooes she…” ad during the primary?

Billy Joe Poteet

August 4th, 2010
11:08 am

@Fred
“Nathan has stayed positive the entire campaign”

Have you given any thought of taking your comedy show on the road, or is Deal paying too well for you to leave us? I must admit that you have given me the biggest laugh I have had in a long time!

Why not John?

August 4th, 2010
11:12 am

This is why I will vote for John Monds in November. http://www.votemonds.com/

Ted

August 4th, 2010
11:15 am

OK – I know its piling on; but, Fred quit drinking the Obama cool-aid.

Stayed positive?
Yes – I use my grandkids in my ads because I love them.
Yes – I have “real women” supporting me.
Yes – because I just found out that I really love gays.
Yes – I really did not quit my job – I retired.
Yes – there really is no grand jury.
Yes – I firmly believe in no-bid contracts.
Yes – I was against it, before I was for it. OH, maybe thats backwards. OH, I am so confused.

AnyoneButHandel

August 4th, 2010
11:18 am

Handel is unfit to serve….

eric supporter

August 4th, 2010
11:19 am

All EJ support has gone to Deal. We will never vote for Handel.

UR RIGHT

August 4th, 2010
11:21 am

I don’t care what it does; however only a non thinking person would give money to a project-tax dollars- and then refuse to attempt or return money from that project. Could another name for non thinking be REPUBLICAN.

Some of those people or STUPID!!!!!

Beyond The Rhetoric

August 4th, 2010
11:24 am

HC: You made the same mistake that I did, initially. It’s easy to see how Nathan Deal misinterpreted the document. What you published here, are the requirements for the Phase II application for Federal money from the ‘Race To The Top” program. In reality, the program itself, is an extension of the ‘No Child Left Behind Act’. The program sets rigorous learning standards in schools, attracts and retains top teachers, tests students to evaluate school and teacher performance and takes innovative steps to fix problem schools.

Fred

August 4th, 2010
12:04 pm

Billy Joe, I’m not getting paid to be here, and I think that is going to be the difference at the end of the day – Nathan’s folks are working hard for him becuase they know him and believe in him and they have the intensity. How many people in the state actually know Karen? Those that do (like the state house and senate members and the majority of the Fulton County folks she served with on the Commission) are supporting Nathan in droves and publicly. That is highly unusual in a primary. It speaks volumes to me and a lot of other people around the state.

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Billy Joe Poteet

August 4th, 2010
12:33 pm

@Fred

We both know one thing for certain, and that is that when the voter goes into the voting booth, it will be without any of the endorsers – on both sides. I firmly believe that Handel will win. Has it ever occurred to you that these politicians who support Deal are merely following the code of “protecting their own”? Handel is an outsider – for all practical purposes and the politicians dislike her for that.

True Republican

August 4th, 2010
12:36 pm

In the end Karen has to attack Nathan because her strategy for Georgia is weak and full of holes. She has to keep the focus on the other candidates because if everyone focuses on her strategies for Georgia vs. Nathans they will realize she has no real direction for the state. Her platform on taxes is to eliminate income tax for the state which will cut the revenues in half. This with a state already running a deficit. He explanation is to make cuts to balance the budget. Is she going to cut over 50% of all budgets? When asked how that would work she danced around and just repeated her canned speech full of generalities.
The fact of the matter is Nathan served the country as a public servant for 30 years with ZERO ethical complaints. He was actually voted as the congressman with the highest ethical values by his peers on several occasions. Now that he runs for governor ONE ethics allegation pops us and he is crucified as Corrupt. All of you say he is so corrupt but have you even read the ethics brief? You should because the 138 page document ends with a conclusion that reads “CONGRESSMAN DEAL DID NOT VIOLATE ANY HOUSE RULES, OR THE SPIRIT OF THE HOUSE RULES”. I encourage you to read it.
Also, all the candidates did not put out ANY negative ads against Karen until she did. Karen drew first blood and the rest of the candidates responded in defense.
You also need to notice that over 80% of the legislator has endorsed Nathan because they know him as a man and as a legislator. They know he will work to get Georgia back on track. You also need to realize that they all know Karen as well and none of them want to work with her because of how divisive she will be in the house. NOTHING will get done with Karen calling the shots. We will be the laughing stock of the Nation with Karen as our Governor.

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Let's Be Real

August 4th, 2010
12:55 pm

Nathan Deal is just educated white trash.

insider

August 4th, 2010
1:11 pm

Nathan is a crook-look up all ethics reports filed on him before you vote! I am voting for Handel and praying a woman will run the state much better than our last Gov. Maybe a woman will have better morals and family values than the men in our General Assembly. Trust me, they’ve all cheated–most just don’t get caught. They are all hypocrites and need to go!! Preston, Casey, Richardson, Balfour….just to name a few..CHEATERS. Everyone should know the truth..do your research before you vote!!

Ann

August 4th, 2010
1:23 pm

Marriott is Mormon owned. And Mitt Romney is on the board. There is deep meaning behind the quote and one BIG problem. Romney tears down his opponents all the time, and plants false stories.
Romney voted for porn to be shown in the Marriott, and even among LDS insiders Marriott has always been known as a “meat market”.

AND

women did a boycott on Marriott, when the company called a woman raped at one of his hotels names, and said it was her fault. She was going to her car with her child. Marriott hands women and children raped in the hotel like they do in their church.

Romney needs to get off his high horse.

Ann

August 4th, 2010
1:24 pm

Marriott handles women and children raped in the hotel like they do in their church.

Romney needs to get off his high horse

Mugwump

August 4th, 2010
1:29 pm

It has taken a lot of effort but the Repubs have done what I didn’t think think they could do. I didn’t think they would, or could, run a candidate any worse than Sonny. I was wrong. They have given the voters neither/ nor candidates. Is Deal more corrupt than Handel; is Handel less experienced and more barren than Deal? Yes, name calling and mud slinging will cost both a loss in supporters. The candidates frequently and honestly try to tell the truth about their opponent. Yes, I believe that Deal violated his oath of office etc. Yes, I believe Handel is inexperienced etc.
It has been many tears since I walked out of the polling booth feeling good about the party and persons who got my vote. Picking the best of the best is no longer an option. This year again, all we the people can do is pick the least of the worst.

HC

August 4th, 2010
1:37 pm

@beyond the

What I posted is directly from the GA Race to the Top application dated January 2010 not from any Phase 2 document.

It is the portion that outlines the stipulations that GA will have to meet in order to receive the money from the Feds. Simply put, if GA doesn’t write those stipulations in, there is no chance of us receiving the Federal Dollars.

My rhetoric calls that a string tied to the money no matter where it is published.

SamF

August 4th, 2010
1:51 pm

I got this mailer yesterday. SO disappointing that she sent this kind of stuff out……Immediate decision….I am voting for Deal!

no deal

August 4th, 2010
2:05 pm

Karen is handling this all wrong but I still don’t get how anyone could vote for a do nothing congressman who has real ethics issues. Why do people ignore this or bloW it off? He is as bad as oxendine.

Fred

August 4th, 2010
4:10 pm

The idea that Karen is an outsider is sort of funny – she certainly isn’t a political outsider – she may be an outsider in that she would be the first (maybe there was one other in the 1800s or something) governor who was not born in Georgia. Karen can’t find most places in Georgia without a campaign aid and a map. That is why, if she wins next Tuesday (and I am predicting she will not), Roy cleans her clock in November.

liberty in 2012

August 4th, 2010
4:17 pm

Remember that Karen has been the one balancing the state’s checkbook. Find the facts and her performance for yourself- it’ out there and not hard to find. Nathan has a problem that will likely surface at the WORST time if he wins the nomination. It reminds me of Timothy “Turbo Tax” Geithner. This is directly from the US House of Congress investigation report: Quote
3. Rep. Deal disclosed $75,000 in unearned “Dividends” income from Gainesville Salvage on his US House 2009 Financial Disclosure Statement (covering calendar year 2008). However, the same income was described as earned wages on his 2008 personal tax forms. Specifically, Rep. Deal’s 2008 tax documents show $75,000 in Gainesville Salvage wages; in addition, Rep. Deal received a W-2 from Gainesville Salvage in 2006, 2007, and 2008. Thus, there is a substantial reason to believe Rep. Deal violated the House Ethic’s Manual’s directive to disclose all earned income.
4. Further, Rep. Deal rendered some degree of service to Gainesville Salvage in 2008 and 2009 and his 2008 taxes show $75,000 in Gainesville Salvage wages. Thus, there is substantial reason to believe Rep. Deal violated the earned income limitation, House Rule 25, Clause 1.
5. Rep. Deal is the Gainesville Salvage corporate secretary. His 2008 taxes show $75,000 in Gainesville Salvage wages. Thus, there is substantial reason to believe Rep. Deal violated the prohibition on receiving compensation as a corporate officer, House Rule 25, Clause 2.
6. Rep. Deal also failed to disclose his status as the Gainesville Salvage corporate secretary on his financial disclosure forms. Thus, there is substantial reason to believe Rep. Deal violated the House ethics Manual’s directive to disclose all nongovernmental positions held.
All of these charges are IN ADDITTION to the issue of Deal trying to keep a lucrative state program for his own personal gain. Can you see the HUGE problem here????? Is this who you want managing our affairs?????? His letter that tries to explain why he didn’t report it as income is just a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo. This is not a Karen Handel plant, I’m just someone who read the Congressional report and then thought “WOW, people say this is NO BIG DEAL???????” (no pun intended) Roy Barnes will slaughter Nathan with this weapon. Vote for Handel because this IS a red state after all and we will get out the votes against Barnes and the Democratic socialist agenda.

liberty in 2012

August 4th, 2010
4:32 pm

Just noticed post by “true republican” that said the 138 page Congressional report said “the 138 page document ends with a conclusion that reads “CONGRESSMAN DEAL DID NOT VIOLATE ANY HOUSE RULES, OR THE SPIRIT OF THE HOUSE RULES”. WOW this person is FLAT OUT LYING!!!! AND hoping you’ll take his word for it and NOT read the actual report because THIS is what it REALLY says: Quote “Conclusion: The Office of Congressional Ethics does not take a position on Rep. Deal’s motivations for inserting himself into discussions of potential modifications to a state vehicle inspection program. However, during operation of the previous vehicle inspection system, Rep. Deal received a significant financial benefit as a Gainesville Salvage partner and corporate officer. It is undisputed that as a “public servant” Rep. Deal took active steps to preserve a purely state program, one that had generated financial benefit for Rep. Deal and his business partner, Ken Cronan. Further, while taking these steps, Rep. Deal used resources of the House of Representatives.

The OCE reviews the facts as presented at the time of review and does not take a position on whether Rep. Deal’s income from Gainesville Salvage was mistakenly reported as earned income since 2006 on his federal income taxes. The evidence before the board is that Rep. Deal characterized his income from Gainesville Salvage as wages on his tax return and, by contrast, as “Unearned Dividends” on his Financial Disclosure Statements. This inconsistency, as of the end of the second phase review and board vote, has not been resolved.

The $75,000 reported as earned income on the tax return exceeded the limit on outside earned income and prohibition on receiving any income while serving as a corporate officer. Further, Deal did not disclose that he was the Gainesville Salvage corporate secretary on his 2009 Financial Disclosure Statement, covering calendar year 2008.

For all the reasons stated above, the OCE board recommends further review by the Committee or Standards of Official Conduct.”
end of quote from the report. Notice it said The OCE board recommends further review. It aint over folks and good ole Roy won’t let this dog lie.
As “true republican” posted, PLEASE do read the report. Here is the link to it:
http://oce.house.gov/disclosures/Review_No_09-1022_Referral_to_Standards.pdf

Chris

August 4th, 2010
4:43 pm

What I want to know is why Handel refused after “multiple offers” to join the debate? The only reason I wouldn’t if it were me was if I didn’t feel confident about my platform enough to discuss it. We don’t need a governor that shrinks back when the pressure rises.

liberty in 2012

August 4th, 2010
5:28 pm

@Beyond the Rhetoric posted:
Maurice Atkinson, Bibb County co-chairman for Handel, resigned in an Open Letter on August 2nd. Atkinson, a former State Committeeman and member of the Board of Tax Assessors in Bibb county, is well known and respected throughout the Georgia Republican Party.”

I wouldn’t use the term “respected” when talking about Maurice Atkinson. (Maybe He is the poster) A conservative, tea party member said it brilliantly in this post (and notice WHY they think he jumped ship):

Just a comment or two on a now Nathan Deal supporter using the name of the Bibb County Republican Party to trash Karen Handel… Maurice Atkinson is doing exactly what he accused Karen of doing but with a dirty, contemptible twist.

He is using the name of the Bibb Republican Party to support Deal and attack Handel, with a mean, nasty underhanded streak showing throughout.

For those who aren’t a member of a local Republican Party, as a rule or maybe it’s a real rule, the Party’s stay out of endorsing one Republican over another. They know that once the primary is over, or the run-off in this case, that they’ll be jumping on board to support whoever wins. It’s bad politics, bad form and burns bridges to trash one candidate.

Mr. Atkinson is making his personal views appear to be the views of the entire Bibb County Republican Party.

If he wants to trash any candidate it should be done under his own name. I noted there was nothing about this issue on his own personal website.

I did a whois search on the Republican website he has utilized and discovered he purchased the site back in 2007. Here’s the disclaimer on his site, emphasis mine:

All material on this site except where noted © 2008-2009 Maurice Atkinson. ….is hosted and provided by Maurice Atkinson as a service to the Bibb County Republican Party. This site is not to be construed as an endorsement by the BCRP. The BCRP does not control the content of this site. At ….we do not sell or exchange names or any information about our clients or online customers with third parties. All information we receive is kept strictly confidential. By visiting and utilizing any and all features of our website, you consent to the use of your personal information by….

This is wrong on every front. He may not like what Handel is doing, but to co-opt, steal, use the name of a Republican organization to throw mud at her, or any Republican candidate, is low, low, low. To be so vicious shows HIS true nature.

I read Atkinson’s letter, which I’m sure Deal’s campaign will be spreading around throughout the week, and what I “got” from it was sour grapes. Handel’s campaign didn’t listen to Atkinson’s advice, he disagrees with some of their strategy, and now he’s off on a rant and doing his best to emulate exactly those things he said he didn’t like. Not once in the letter does Atkinson address the ethical charges against Deal in the letter. All he does is slap at Handel, which is exactly what he’s accusing Handel of doing to Deal…

Maurice Atkinson has stooped to tactics that are lower than anything he accuses Handel’s campaign of considering or doing by using the name of a local Republican Party and by sending a nasty letter to the press and the world.

If I were a member of the Bibb County Republican Party I’d be slapping Atkinson with a cease and desist, and that fake website, even with it’s disclaimers, would be down within the hour.

And no, I’m not sharing his letter on here or anywhere. I hesitated to even write anything about it as I don’t like to give attention to trash, but the letter and his attacks are going to be making the rounds…
http://jmacpolitics.blogspot.com/2010/08/using-bibb-county-republican-partys.html

No matter who you are voting for, put that aside and realize this guy is dangerous for the whole party.

Maggie Thatcher

August 5th, 2010
12:15 am

KAREN HANDEL is going to win.

whyweloseelections

August 5th, 2010
12:12 pm

Karen Handel sustained a lot of negative injury as a result of Nathan Deal and his attacks on her… Gays, abortion, her own very personal struggles with fertility. DeMoss expects her, or any other candidate, to endure the blows and talk only about positive reasons to support themselves? I know where I would not turn if I needed PR services in the future. What does this entire scenario say about DeMoss excusing Deal, who is facing down very serious ethics charges. Is it more ethical to be sensitive whether a campaign uses the news of ethics charges to inform voters of the very real charges or is it more ethical, in light of such serious charges, to support the embattled candidate regardless? I may be mistaken but, aren’t we in the mess we are in nationally because voters were unaware of the negatives that accompany Obama? Wouldn’t it be great if McCain had the courage to “attack” Obama where he was weak?
Karen Handel remains the best candidate for the job of governor. She will weather this absurd position of DeMoss and, I assume that of his close associate Lanny Davis. Together they can sing songs around the campfire and toast to the civility they have brought to the debate!