Hem and huff over hammers and sickles in the 7th District

Disavantaged Insider

July 29th, 2010
6:14 pm

Make no bones about it — Jody is an idiot — a “useful idiot” as Lenin would say — but not useful to Georgia. I agree with Newt: Obama is not evil…he’s just wrong. He is a Liberal with a capital “L” but that doesn’t make him a communist, and the communist emblem is the one you used Jody, even though you say you don’t like his “socialist policies.” And if going so far down in the gutter gets Grice elected, then may God help us even more than he needs to right now.

Just Peachy

July 29th, 2010
6:15 pm

Rob couldn’t have said it better! Man on man, I’m conservative myself but I don’t in anyway pretend to think Jody Hice could work across the aisle to get work done. I’m afraid he’d just offend everyone in congress. I need someone to go that can talk reason and actually have a conversation with the other side of the aisle. My support has been and remains with Woodall

Just Peachy

July 29th, 2010
6:28 pm

should have proofed before hitting submit… but you get the idea Hice will NEVER be able to work with anyone from the other party and a good portion of his own party.

Nick

July 29th, 2010
6:33 pm

Mr. Woodall you have the respect of this Obama supporter.

jconservative

July 29th, 2010
6:35 pm

Wonder where Jody Hice has been for the past 75 years. He is worried about socialism and he was born & raised in a socialist country. Every president but Ford & Carter have added more socialism to the Great American Social Welfare State. And Hice just noticed? Wow!

Dirty Dawg

July 29th, 2010
6:50 pm

Let’s see now. The Administration has had to wade in to save a failed, or failing banking industry…a health-care ‘industry’ that was, and is, failing Americans everywhere…a student loan industry that has been gouging families of students and students themselves for decades…saved the American automobile industry…and in none of the above have they ‘taken them over’, just tried to bring some sanity to the greed…and you call that Socialism? Of course that label plays well with Conservatives and many, if not most, Georgia voters. But the truth is the policies of the Republicans, particularly over the past eight years, have been disastrous to everybody but the most well off and it can’t continue.

Independent

July 29th, 2010
6:54 pm

I hope voters will tell Hice to take his online degree and his ignorance of real socialism and go away.

lmno

July 29th, 2010
7:15 pm

Never underestimate the stupidy of the masses. I say that Hammer and Sickle will win “Jody” the election. However, the fact that his name is Jody will hurt him. Let’s face it, a lot of people base their vote on name alone and Jody versus Rob isn’t a good match up.

JL

July 29th, 2010
7:20 pm

Are there any Republicans that own a dictionary?
There are those that wish American auto companies had locked it’s doors but were they ready for the consequences of putting two million out of jobs. What would that have cost in unemployment benefits. The two million number is the number arrived at because of all the companies that supply them.
There are those that disagree with the health care plan. Health Care is not a right. Sorry it’s already a right. If you are ill, emergency rooms have to treat you. We all pay for that care. If you don’t like that law and would prefer them on the street, write your representative to repeal the law.
Before the name calling though read a history book, economic book or at least use the dictionary.

LWilson

July 29th, 2010
7:29 pm

Ever been down to Georgia Public Broadcasting? In one room I know of the decor is communist symbols, etc. I guess it’s okay to use the symbols of communism in a positive way but not to show the destruction of our own country. Jody, you are what we need and your point is as it should be. Wake up Zombies!

Independent Voter

July 29th, 2010
7:29 pm

I don’t think “socialistic” is really a word.

rufus

July 29th, 2010
8:06 pm

LWilson, you are one funny guy…dude you crack me up! Not since the days of Monty Python have I witnessed such razor sharp wit. “decor is communist symbols, etc.” You are indeed a national treasure.

Jim Nichols

July 29th, 2010
8:21 pm

My political theory professors are slapping their heads in disbelief right now.

I wonder where Hice stands on the pre-marx split Feuerbach made from Hegel? As i’m still trying to figure out that one myself (I mean does anyone understand Hegel?) Would love to learn more from Hice on Obama Socialism [of the center right variety]…

Cee-lo

July 29th, 2010
8:29 pm

Obama has ’socialistic’ policies, yet Medicare Part D, the Patriot Act, and going to war in Iraq (doesn’t the Constitution say something about a Declaration of War being issued by congress) are purely democratic policies? Republicans are retards if they elect this guy.

P.S.- Bush and a whole lot of republicans currently in congress were in favor of TARP.

Someone else

July 29th, 2010
8:33 pm

Its only socialism if the Democrats do it.

Doug Henwood

July 29th, 2010
8:53 pm

Hmm, how about that military? Total welfare state for members, generous child care, education allowances – and affirmative action. If that sort of thing is good enough for the folks in uniform, why not the rest of us?

Truth Speaker

July 29th, 2010
8:54 pm

Hice is a moron.

Since when is passing consumer protection legislation socialistic?

Steve

July 29th, 2010
8:56 pm

It’s pretty hilarious that Rob is trying to take “the high road” now. He’s got his Freedom Forums all over the district about ’saving America from socialism’ – but he can’t help but do a little back tracking and show that nice soft spot in his spine. Thanks, Rob, for showing me exactly why I won’t be voting for you.

Travis McGee

July 29th, 2010
9:05 pm

I’d like to express my appreciation to Dirty Dog and others who responded in a rational and intelligent way to the actions of this radical panderer.

And, so it goes. . . .

BehindEnemyLines

July 29th, 2010
9:27 pm

Woodall sounds quite willing to appease the enemy & play go along to get along. Not sure Hice is the right guy but after reading Woodall’s comments I’m almost certain he’s the wrong one.

Red

July 29th, 2010
9:32 pm

Kicking sand doesn’t work? Hey Rob. Will another decade working on the Fair Tax finally get a majority? I mean after 10 years and we’re still not in the triple digits on sponsors of the only issue you know anything about? I think we’re talking pot calling kettle black for going after Hice on this one. I guess handpicked, elitist, chosen out of state successors do a much better job as well?

How are those DC insider contributions coming Rob? Looking at the report, you know the FEC report you were critical of Jody on? I’m looking at how much DC and special interest contributions you have coming in.

Sorry Rob. DC insiders like you are the reason DC is in the shape its in. DC insiders like you have been “working across the aisle” for entirely too long. People who are just a little TOO familiar with the process on “how DC works” are the reason special interests rule the day. I am much for someone who has local values actually from the district than a guy whose career and living arrangements has been DC. Keep your smirks, fake good old boy charm, and your “I’m sure Jody is a nice guy” platitudes. You’re fake charm may get you tickets to a Skins game bbut it does not work on people who are actually suffering because of wrapped up in special interest crooks like you.

Smarmmy

July 29th, 2010
9:39 pm

Peachy….the go along to get along types are why we have the crises in this country. Working across the aisle has done so well over the years. And Rob’s done a stupendous job up to this point. If I were Linder, I’d begin wondering if Rob is taking credit for everything I did. The debate was a classic example. You’d think Linder was a sock puppet and Rob was the one telling John Cratchety what to do. Rob singlehandedly did this…and that…and this…and that. And the Fair Tax people have to wonder if all the work they’ve put in was for naught because Rob did it all…or are they just puppets to Rob’s masterfully controlling grasp?

Patriot

July 29th, 2010
10:16 pm

Red….you said it sooo right! I’m sick of Washington and 90% of anything associated with Washington. All Washington wants is our money to spend on their special interests. Rob is from Dekalb…nope I meant Washington…call it what you want I’m not fooled.

Jasmine

July 29th, 2010
10:21 pm

Woodall is 40+ years old, never been married, knows little about family values, didn’t even live in the district, has inside DC money all over his campaign – is this the guy we want representing us??????? Jody Hice is a God fearing, law breaking (speaking from the pulpit and endorsing a candidate), not caring (putting the tax-free status of his church at risk and potentially screwing all the people of the church), Obama hating, televangelist that was kicked out of his own church……..How is our choice looking???????Where is Clay Cox???

Red

July 29th, 2010
10:40 pm

Jasmine – fact check for you. law breaking? Check the Constitution. Where does it say a person gives up freedom of speech just because he stands behind a podium? Not caring? He led a movement of many other churches VOLUNTARILY choosing to ignore the IRS and honor the Constitution. Frankly we need more people willing to actually stand up for the Constitution instead of special interests, people willing to challenge laws which are clearly wrong, people willing to put power back into the hands of the people.

I’m frankly tired of DC elites, you know the ones WE elect, telling us what we can and cannot do. And frankly I’m tired of the arrogance of people like Woodall telling me what is good for me and that some DC insider status is best for deciding what is good for the district. And if I had a dollar for every time Rob says Jody’s a nice guy and his heart is in the right place, I’d be a millionaire. Saying the same thing over and over does not make it right. Rob, you are a career DC politico. Your job was to meet and arrange deals with special interests. Your own FEC report identifies who you have more ties to. Most of the contributions you get are from outside the district, the state, and through government affairs, and special interests in DC. You crack Jody for investing his own money in his campaign. I ask you this…who is investing in yours? The answer is telling to say the least.

Jasmine

July 29th, 2010
10:50 pm

Red
You make some great points on Woodall.
Fact check on Jody – he, in fact, broke the law – you and he may not like the law – but a law none the less. That begs the question – “Which laws will Jody choose to follow in DC? Will he selectively follow the laws of the body he purports to join? It is a slippery slope!!!!! Then to his mail-order degree………..the Reverend Doctor – sounds like Jesse Jackson…………

I’m tired of “DC elites” too. Lets get a quality person in there!!!!!

On Billboards And Change — Peach Pundit

July 29th, 2010
10:59 pm

[...] Tim Bryant of WGUA in Athens interviewed both Hice and Woodall this week and the subject of the billboard came up. As you might imagine Hice and Woodall disagree about the appropriateness of the hammer and sickle (hat tip: Political Insider) [...]

IggyDad

July 29th, 2010
11:18 pm

Sure, nominate this silly fool Hice. It doesn’t hurt to have another loony GOP flagbearer. They are going to have about 60 loyal supporters in a few years.

Pete

July 29th, 2010
11:41 pm

The hammer and sickle, used by this candidate as his own, was never a symbol of socialism, but of communism, which is different, and stood for a dictatorship, under which anyone had to be prepared to produce their proper papers or risk jail, in which travel was restricted, train stations were watched for unauthorized travelers, in which there was no protection against wiretap or search and seizure. Hice is waving a flag he does not understand, and apparently applying for a job he is not qualified for. Obama’s change has been weak, because at every step of the way he is having to compromise with ignorant men like Hice, who have no understanding of liberty and history.

kevin

July 29th, 2010
11:48 pm

vote woodall and get exactly what obama is shoving down your throats!!!! hes a moron running on the fair tax tactic that he well knows will never happen ..hes a part of the agenda and you moronic idiots need to wake up. socialism is here and rob is part of it

Joe Christmas

July 29th, 2010
11:48 pm

Rob Woodall looks like hes going to be a heck of a good Congressman.

Dinosaur

July 29th, 2010
11:50 pm

paging chuck efstration…

kevin

July 29th, 2010
11:52 pm

Jasmine exactly what law did jodt break? recite it to me or can you?

Citizen Cain

July 30th, 2010
12:00 am

I live in the 7th district. This week one of the Hice mob placed, without permission, one of his campaign signs on my private property. Now, how can this godly man purport to make laws that govern the rest of us when he violates the law himself? And, BTW, his 10 commandment crusade cost Barrow county a $100,000 fine handed down from the federal court when his bible-thumping myrmidons lost their case.

agnes

July 30th, 2010
12:29 am

Great. The Republican choices are a red baiting nincompoop and a Washington insider wimp who isn’t really from our district. That’s the best they can do? You know there’s another candidate in this race who is a moderate, intelligent voice of reason with proven leadership skills and positive community involvement. His name is Doug Heckman. You can’t call an Iraq & Afghanistan combat veteran a wimp or a socialist/communist. And he actually lives in our district!

patty

July 30th, 2010
12:36 am

Jasmine, Get your facts straight! What Jody did from the pulpit was not unconstitutional. The IRS backed down because they had no ground to stand on. The church did not loose their tax exemption. Go figure why! Jody and 32 other ministers took a bold stand against government intimidaters instead of rolling over and giving in like so many polititians have done over the past couple of decades. Yes, it was a risk, but do we just give in everytime our liberties are threatened? Jody’s church was behind him! I am not a member of his church, but live in the area, know the people and attended his church that Sunday. His church was proud of and appreciated his bold stand. As for Clay Cox, you ask where is he. He was put out of the race by the voters. You might check him out a little more. We need new faces in Washington. As far as being able to work in Washington, how successful and fast have you seen the fair tax move thru? When have you seen the democrats reach across the isle and listen to anything the republicans have said lately? Many people are tired of the usual Washington games and trading favors for favors, hiding earmarks in bills and costing tax payers money that we don’t have. Just because Jody is a former minister and christian doesn’t make him less smart. He is very knowledgable about the constitution and government. We need people who are bold and stand for what is right. The lack of that is why this country is in the shape it is in.

PatriotPat

July 30th, 2010
12:46 am

Just a short comment or two for all of you arm chair politicians, liberal Socialists, Marxists, Leninists, Taoists, Porgressives and worse. These are not political games were playing here folks. What hangs in the balance is the “soul” of this once great nation, literally! You guys are are a large part of the problem in this Republic. You have been brain washed by your Socialist professors. You refuse to dig for the pure history of this nation while leaning on your revisionsist history which has become so polluted by your Socialist professors you seem to love so much. The comments, statements and stances that Jody Hice has made publicly can and are backed up with truth and pure history. The truth hurts. I believe that Rob Woodall, by his comments and baseless aspersions toward Jody Hice, has exposed his true nature which is same old smoke and mirrors, Washington Insider ideology. I have heard Rob try to answer questions concerning his faith, his stance on abortion and other issues with flowery political jargon without truly answering any of the questions posed. I also understand that he really has no problem with “ear marks”. This is just the type of garbage that needs to be kicked to the curb on the streets of Washington. It has shown this voter that a professional or more correctly “career” politician will twist and turn everything he can to cling to the pay check afforded him by the U.S. citizen. We will no longer pay the bill for this type of service. No more “kept politicians”. If we keep electing the same kind of people season after season to represent us we will keep getting the same old “corruption” we see being played out today in the House Of Representatives. Jody Hice is just the type of person we need to represent us; A God fearing, Strict Constitutionalist who has nothing to lose but his country, family, community and church. He is not running as a careeer politician. He is a true Churchman & Statesman and seeks only to serve for a season. I insist that Rob Woodall (and the rest of you arm chair politicians & Progressives) repent of your slick, drippy sweet attacks on Jody Hice, strip off the venere and get real with the people. Answer a question straight up and stop all of the political pandering and dancing around the issues.
Q.Why doth the heathen rage? Because the truth exposes evil for what it is. And evil is what is prevailing in this country, but only for a season. Rage on dear heathen for the TRUTH will set you free!

patty

July 30th, 2010
12:54 am

Citizen Cain, I live in Barrow County. If someone put a Hice sign in your yard, without permission, we apologize. I don’t think Jody told them to put it there. Just before the primary, we had all kinds of Hice signs stolen and removed from places where other political signs were left, all kinds of signs of other candidates put on privite property. without permission. I don’t think that Rob Woodall and Clay Cox were out doing this. Unfortunately, this has gone on in every election; supporters of different candidates do this from time to time. Yes, it is frustrating. I am a volunteer for Jody Hice and I have seen many Hice signs stolen from supporters yards. I don’t think that we can blame the candidates themselves.
About the Ten Commandments case with the ACLU, Jody helped raise over $300,000 to fight against the ACLU. Barrow County loves and appreciates Jody Hice, and as you know the good guys don’t always win,but they have the guts to stand up for what is right, and they will win in the end!

Hice_Supporter

July 30th, 2010
1:02 am

To know Jody personally is to attest to who he is accurately. Every negative posting in this thread represents a person who knows nothing about him and would rather make outrageous comments then find out the real facts. If you did know him, you would know that he is the guy we need in Congress. Rob Woodall has been living in DC for over 10 years and only recently made himself a legal resident in District 7 so that he could run for this post. If you think he cares about the locals in his district I think you will be disappointed.

Jody is not a televangelist and was not kicked out of his church. He continues to care deeply about the church and its people and has had a massive amount of support for the past 12 years in the decisions he has made. His education was also top notch and he will do in Congress what he says he will do.

He proved he has what it takes in this election and I think smart voters will reward him with their vote on August 10th. I know he has my vote.

Citizen Cane – Do you not have something more intelligent to contribute then the unfortunate misplacement of a sign in your yard. I am sure it was an oversight by a volunteer. I can’t answer to the cost of the legal fight in Barrow County, but I do know that Jody helped raise $300,000 to cover those costs. In any case, $100,000 is nothing compared to the cost to this nation if the ACLU had won. Taking the 10 Commandments out of Barrow County would have been a precedent we would not have wanted to set.

Candidate Watchdog

July 30th, 2010
3:13 am

Hice says, “the hammer and sickle represent the socialist policies of Obama.” Evidently he did not learn the difference between socialism and communism while getting his online degree. The hammer and sickle was a COMMUNIST symbol.

Clearly just a media ploy – These types of candidates never accomplish anything if elected. They spend their time trying to earn media with the next big media ploy.

Give me a serious candidate like Woodall who actually knows the issues and is not in this race just to see how many times he can get in the news.

Larry

July 30th, 2010
3:28 am

Barrow did NOT lose the Ten Commandments case – it never went to trial. Think back. The ACLJ originally represented Barrow for free. Hice talked them into dumping the ACLJ and hiring Herb Titus. Hice started his fundraising because the BOC balked at giving up the ACLJ’s free representation to pay Titus. The trial was cancelled because, only days before it was to start, Titus gave in to the ACLU on every point plus handed them $150,000 for their trouble. After the attorney that Hice convinced Barrow to use simply gave the ranch away, Hice reneged on his promise to cover the costs. It was because of Hice that Barrow taxpayers never had their day in court and still ended up getting stuck with a bill. Better yet – since his lawyer never took the case to trial, what happened to the $300,000 that Hice raised for the big court battle that never happened?

BoDiddley

July 30th, 2010
4:21 am

Anybody besides me notice that this Tim Bryant guy is doing some pretty good political reporting?

Teddy

July 30th, 2010
7:26 am

Rob Woodall did not live in our district before he announced he is just another corrupt Washington insider. There are LOTS of things I DON’T like about Hice but I’ll vote for him. We need change in Washington not more of the same like Woodall.

Bill Orvis White

July 30th, 2010
7:50 am

Sorry, but Jody is right. I disagree with him that he ought to respect this intalled “leader” because the ideas are detrimental to the once-free nation’s future.

Jody’s billboard is a sign of the times and is accurate. There’s nothing wrong with that and anyone who disagrees with it has his head in the sand.

I respect a man who is going out there and is waking up the district and ultimately, the country, that Hussein Obama is implementing policies that benefit him and his far-left liberal cronies on the coasts, in the liberal media, the green movement and Hollyweird. Hussein doesn’t understand the concerns of Real America-the people who make this country work.

We need to return to the concepts that made this country great. I for one know that the Honorable Jody Hice is just the man to do it. I’m sending my check in today.

Amen,
Bill

Roy Barnes for Gov

July 30th, 2010
7:52 am

This why I am supporting Barnes, look another republicans running against Prez Obama what do Prez got to do with district 7.. Vote for Roy Barnes

Debbie Dooley

July 30th, 2010
7:54 am

I support Jody Hice. I want a Congressman that is not a Washington insider and GOP establishment candidate and that is not afraid to make the left angry. I want a Congressman that will take the fight to the socialists/communists. I want a Congressman that will say no to earmarks. I want a Congressman that will challenge the status quo. Tom Price has been very effective and he has frequently challenged the leftists and is not afraid to step on toes. He has also not requested an earmark in four years.

AmVet

July 30th, 2010
8:04 am

Unbelievable. Sixty years on and this travesty called the Republican Party has barely moved past having Joseph McCarthy as their most revered hero, spiritual leader and icon of “intellectual” thought.

What a sad indictment, that the Once Grand Old Party can do nothing more than play to the bigoted and lowest common denominator. And why outside of Dixie they are roundly derided.

Stuck on stupid.

Bill Orvis White

July 30th, 2010
8:20 am

@AmVet

First off, thank you for serving your country, but you’re betraying yourself by writing such inaccurate stuff on this board.

The Grand Old Tea Party is in the mode to take back this once-free nation. The new GOP will unshackle us from the constraints of unfunded mandates, illegal Obamacare and replace these socialistic concepts with free market principles — the very principles that made America number one years before the left took control in the 1960s.

Before the 1960s, we were a country that the world respected. That’s no longer because we let our schools crumble when God and discipline were thrown out only to be replaced by a foul culture that celebrates “personal freedom” such as abortion and unlimited debauchery.

The Red Chinese, Indians and Saudis are 1,2 and 3 respectively because they have order and a dedication to hard work. Now, I don’t like that the Chinese outlaw God — it makes me sick, but they’re kicking our butts because they cut corners.

Amen,
Bill

J. Davis

July 30th, 2010
8:25 am

Hey AmVet, Joseph McCarthy was right, so is Jody Hice. I don’t live in that district so I’m not prepared to say who I would vote for if I did live there. I think Hice and Woodall are good men and either one would be a good Congressman, better than 90% of those already there. By the way AmVet, I’m am AmVet too, 20 years, 2 of which were in Vietnam.

AmVet

July 30th, 2010
8:30 am

Bill, thanks for the reasoned response.

“The new GOP will unshackle us from the constraints of unfunded mandates, illegal Obamacare and replace these socialistic concepts with free market principles — the very principles that made America number one years before the left took control in the 1960s.”

The new GOP? To quote Pete Townshend, “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.”

The new GOP has been utterly scandal ridden, corrupt, deadly and inept. And the little men who “lead” it have sold the American people down the river. At least those of us who make less than $2million/year. As have the Republican-lites “across the aisle”. Otherwise where is this record of stellar accomplishments on behalf of we the people.

We live in ade facto and de jure plutocracy now.

And I contend that you are gravely mistaken in thinking their is a gnat’s ___ difference between the Tweedledee and Tweedledum Parties.

90% of Americans think this country is in decline.

82% believe that corporations have too much power over too many aspects of our lives.

70%+ feel the two major political parties are failing them.

!s that last point even arguable?

That you see some sudden, new redemption in this “new” GOP must be wonderful. But being a realist, I doubt I will share in your epiphany…

sally

July 30th, 2010
8:30 am

An interesting response by Woodall. Maybe the ad is over the top. But what Woodall’s response says to me is maybe HE has been in Washington too long. He has started to believe that the way Washington operates is what we little people need to understand and accept. While I think most of us think Washington needs to be reminded who they work for and that’s us little people back home. This is not my district so I don’t get to vote on either of them. But, it seems to be as it usually is, who is the lesser of the 2 evils. Hold your nose and press the button for the one you dislike the least. Very sad…..

Ricardus

July 30th, 2010
8:31 am

When I think of the socialist-Democrat Party, I always think of the communist hammer and sickle. Jody is correct.

AmVet

July 30th, 2010
8:35 am

J. Davis, salute!

McCarthy was “right”? Would you expound on that, please> And explain how that witch-hunt that just coincidentally ruined countless INNOCENT lives was “right”.

I’m open to any information you may have on the topic, but history correctly regards him as one of the most vile, misguided men who misused his enormous power and was, in fact, the very epitome of un-American activity. Ironic huh?

????

July 30th, 2010
8:38 am

AmVet

July 30th, 2010
8:04 am

When are we going to have lunch?

AmVet

July 30th, 2010
8:41 am

Question Mark and the Mysterians,

We, white man?

LOL…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc69zr_5uH4

Aquagirl

July 30th, 2010
8:45 am

Vote for Jody. The right-wingers need their own version of Cynthia McKinney in Congress– A do-nothing idiot who embarrasses everyone around them, making their district the laughingstock of the nation.

Mercy!

July 30th, 2010
8:48 am

My vote goes to Mr./Dr Hice boys & girls.Woodall IS a sock puppet of Linder’s & isn’t the man to take a stand and make changes well needed in Congress !I believe Hice will do just that.Our country didn’t get in the shape it’s in overnight or even under one administration & it won’t come out of the mess in record time,however,we have to start somewhere.Take that giant step out & approach issues differently.If it’s change you want & someone who will take that step,Hice is your man!Shame on you Imno,making fun of a person’s given name!Wondering what name your momma gave you? And Jasmine,it sounded BIG to say Hice was “kicked out of his own church”.You are very misinformed on this matter.Hice gives all appearances of a man we can depend on to STAND UP & TESTIFY for our 7th district in Congress! We need to get the old stuff out & vote in the new–someone who will get the job done! I,too,believe Hice to be a honest,God-fearing man who believes we need to return to the principles our great country was founded on! If we want to SEE change—we will have to MAKE changes. Woodall is not the solution to our problems! A vote for him will only give us another term of the same old–same old! Vote Hice and watch this man go!

Bill Orvis White

July 30th, 2010
8:50 am

@AmVet

Ah, playing class warfare again, are you? Wealth is accumulated through hard work and self-reliance. Studies have shown that when you release the funds back to the producers — those who pay most of the taxe$ and provide jobs — these patriots will take those funds and create even more jobs. It’s simple arithmetic.

Amen,
Bill

AmVet

July 30th, 2010
9:02 am

Bill. A Trickle Downer, eh?

Look at what has happened to the working class over the past thirty years in this country. It has been decimated with such theories.

From 1995 to 2005 CEO pay went up 240%. The American worker’s pay? 4%.

For 80% of American workers – the people who built this country – they make less in adjusted inflation dollars than they did in 1973.

Go look around. Go talk to people. You’ll see what has been the aftermath of the corporate destruction of capitalism that culminated in that little event of September 2008.

Yet some still carry water for the banksters, casino capitalists and white collar criminals in Wall Street, K Street and Main Street.

To their own misfortune.

Only in America…

AmVet

July 30th, 2010
9:02 am

Bill. A Trickle Downer, eh?

Look at what has happened to the working class over the past thirty years in this country. It has been decimated with such theories.

From 1995 to 2005 CEO pay went up 240%. The American worker’s pay? 4%.

For 80% of American workers – the people who built this country – they make less in adjusted inflation dollars than they did in 1973.

Go look around. Go talk to people. You’ll see what has been the aftermath of the corporate destruction of capitalism that culminated in that little event of September 2008.

Yet some still carry water for the banksters, casino capitalists and white collar criminals in Wall Street, K Street and Main Street.

To their own misfortune.

Only in America…

AmVet

July 30th, 2010
9:03 am

Drats, the dreaded double post…

T Knight

July 30th, 2010
9:06 am

Nothing I have read changes my mind. I’m still voting Woodall.

Citizen Cain

July 30th, 2010
9:07 am

Hice can have his illegally placed back — anytime. Provided he comes and gets and personally apologizes. And, no surprise that his brain-dead sycophants sycophants would bring up the magic $300,000 that he claims he raised to press his holy fight to Hang 10 and FORCE everybody to acknowledge his version of the true & righteous foundation of “our” country.” None of this figure went toward paying the fine levied by the federal judge. When the judge spake, Hice sulked and went home — taking his money with him (he is a preacher, you know), leaving the Barrow taxapyers to pay for his stubborn folly. Yes, we need more of his ignorant ilk in Washington. and, to reiterate, his sig no longer stands on my property, but he is welcome to it back. Just say when.

Leisa Hudson

July 30th, 2010
9:08 am

“I support Dr. Jody Hice because I know we can trust him and won’t have to watch him. The liberals have hijacked our country and I know we can take it back – this will begin by getting Jody elected to Congress.”

- Herman Cain, Host of The Herman Cain Show – WSB Atlanta

Leisa Hudson

July 30th, 2010
9:09 am

“It is my privilege and pleasure to endorse Dr. Hice for the 7th District U.S. Congressional seat of Georgia. I know Jody personally and have watched him for almost 20 years. I have learned from him as a minister the importance of and heart for “Shepherding” people. Jody is a Churchman and a Statesman, a strict Constitutionalist, and a Patriot who has displayed consistently a servants heart. This unique combination is a rare find and one that embodies what I believe the “Founders” originally expected of those who would serve their country. At a time when the world has thrown morality to the wind and finds itself in a Socialist drunken stupor, Jody Hice offers a voice of Truth and Moral Sobriety that our Country so desperately needs.”

-Patrick T. Acree, Co-Founder of the Walton County TEA Party

Leisa Hudson

July 30th, 2010
9:10 am

“I have known Jody Hice for years and can say without any reservation, ‘Jody Hice is the best choice for Georgia’s 7th District’. Jody is a sincere man who is passionate about standing for our liberties. For several years, Jody has been engaged in the war for liberty here in America and has taken several gutsy stands. I firmly believe that Jody will best represent us in Washington in everything from compassionate constituent service to fearless leadership on the house floor. Jody Hice is the man for the hour to stand in the gap for our district and freedoms. I am doing all that I can to help him secure this seat and encourage everyone else who wants our nation to have a strong future to do the same.”

- Linda Blechinger, Mayor of Auburn, GA

Leisa Hudson

July 30th, 2010
9:11 am

“I believe Jody Hice is the man we need…in Congress. I support Jody Hice to be our new Congressman and encourage everyone to vote for him on July 20th.”

- Dr. Paul Davis, Founder of the Gwinnett TEA Party

Leisa Hudson

July 30th, 2010
9:12 am

“As I look out over the fruited plains of America I see “abuses and usurpations” to the U.S. Constitution which have become “destructive to these ends” as written by our Framers. I seek to endorse a man who fears God, reveres the Judeo-Christian heritage of our nation, is a Madisonian constitutionalist and desires to serve as a citizen legislator and not a lifelong professional politician.

Only one man running for the 7th U.S. Congressional District of Georgia meets my criteria. His name is Jody Hice. Twice Jody has stood in the national public policy arena and has been battle tested by fire first with his defense of the “Ten Commandments” in Barrow County and second with his IRS challenge of “Pulpit Freedom Sunday”. Our Framers mutually pledged their Lives, Fortunes and Sacred Honor. Jody Hice is a man of that measure.”

- John L. Sauers, Co-Founder of the Walton County TEA Party

Leisa Hudson

July 30th, 2010
9:12 am

“I am pleased to endorse Dr. Jody Hice for US Congress in Georgia’s 7th District. Jody Hice is loyal to the Constitution in keeping with the original intent of the Framers. Jody Hice is a pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom leader who will serve with distinction in Congress. This is a time in the life of our country that we need leaders like Dr. Jody Hice!”

- David Barton, Founder of WallBuilders

Leisa Hudson

July 30th, 2010
9:13 am

“I am proud to endorse Dr. Jody Hice for Congress in Georgia’s 7th Congressional District.

Jody is a true conservative leader and advocate for getting America back on track. He does not falter nor tire in addressing the major issues that we must confront as a nation, in fact he goes beyond that – he’s got a proven record. It includes being in the right on reigning in wild government spending, protecting life and advocating the right to keep and bear arms to name just a few.

Jody understands the harmful effect that illegal immigration is having on our economy, jobs, and national security. He will stand like a rock on all of these issues, whether it is against the Democrats or even those in his own party. He will be a mighty voice for those in Georgia’s 7th and a formidable force that the district can wield to invigorate our government. That is why I encourage fellow conservatives and tea party patriots to unite together and let’s do all that we can to get him elected.

It is with great enthusiasm that I proclaim, “Georgia’s 7th – Jody Hice is your guy.”

-Tom Tancredo, Former Congressman and Television Commentator

Jeff in ATL

July 30th, 2010
9:18 am

“I want a Congressman that will say no to earmarks”

Why? You’d rather have the Federal bureaucracy — Obama appointees — to dictate where federal monies are spent?

I don’t know about you, but I’d rather have my Member of Congress make those decisions.

AmVet

July 30th, 2010
9:19 am

OK, all, off to help keep the wounded American economic engine humming and to pay for the occupations and more corporate welfare.

Enjoy your day and perhaps we will meet again!

Roy McCreary

July 30th, 2010
9:29 am

I stand behind Jody Hice 100%, and believe he will make the best Congressman for the Seventh District.

double zero eight

July 30th, 2010
9:31 am

Jody will follow the lead of the two Georgia U. S. Senators and do absolutely nothing about immigration. They talk a good game, just like John McCain did. Action speaks louder than words.

Steve

July 30th, 2010
9:39 am

@JeffinATL – The thing is, there is a right way to appropriate how federal money is spent, and that IS decided by your congressman. Earmarks are not that way – earmarking is generally a method to tuck pork spending into unrelated bills instead of having it go through the appropriate process.

Tammy

July 30th, 2010
9:47 am

Rob Woodall has been right beside Linder while Obama has been shoving all of his socialist policies right down our throats and hasn’t done much to stop any of it. He’s 43 years old, never married and has no idea how to walk a mile in OUR shoes! It’s about time someone like Hice called him on his political games – what has Woodall done outside of the political arena to take a stand for anything? Absolutely nothing! Let’s fire the Washington incumbents, Woodall included, and get some new blood in Congress. How can you expect anything different when you keep sending the same people to Washington? I have heard Woodall speak several times and he can’t answer a direct question (just like any Washington insider does, he evades the question and gives numerous reasons why we have to keep doing things the old way). Hice offers a new perspective, actually an old one – the one our Founding Fathers had. Has it ever occurred to any of you that our Founding Fathers were right? If we don’t make a change NOW, it will be too late in 2 years! Let’s take America back NOW!

Jenna

July 30th, 2010
9:51 am

I want to say thank you to the conservatives who have restored my faith in Georgia by blasting Hice for that disgusting billboard. This method of trying to instill fear into voters in order to get their votes needs to stop. If you can’t win on the issues, then get out of the game. Ask the 55,000 automotive workers who were recently recalled if they are glad the administration stepped in and saved GM from going bankrupt. Ask the parents of a child with medical problems if they are glad they can now insure that child without the “pre-existing conditions” clause. The list is endless.

Baby's Daddy

July 30th, 2010
9:56 am

Vote Democratic and let’s all get us some more of that stimulus money. If we get these white boy Republicans in then our unemployment checks will be cut off at two years. We need unemployment checks to keep going for at least five years.

Leisa Hudson

July 30th, 2010
9:57 am

“Without the acknowledgement of God there are no moral absolutes. The belief in God calls each of us – government and individuals – to a Higher authority than ourselves. It reminds us that we are but stewards of His inalienable rights and that we will stand accountable to Him for the way we live. For our government to remove itself from God is to say “everyone can do what is right in their own eyes” or worse, it is to give government permission to step in the role of God and determine the fate of man. It is indeed extremely dangerous for government to reject or deny the Almighty. Without a constant awareness of a righteous God, tyranny prevails. This has been demonstrated time and again throughout history. John Adams (signer of the Declaration of Independence and 2nd President of U.S.) said, “It is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue.” The Pennsylvania Supreme Court said in 1824, “No free government now exists in the world, unless where Christianity is acknowledged, and is the religion of the country.” Noah Webster declared, “The moral principles and precepts found in the scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws. All the evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.” And Calvin Coolidge said, “The foundations of our society and our government rest so much on the teachings of the Bible that it would be difficult to support them if faith in these teachings would cease to be practically universal in our country.”

“Barack Obama, believes America should no longer be a nation based on Christian principles but that we must embrace every other religious system. I prefer to hold to the convictions of Woodrow Wilson, “A nation which does not remember what it was yesterday, does not know what it is today, nor what it is trying to do. We are trying to do a futile thing if we do not know where we came from or what we have been about.”

~Jody Hice

Red

July 30th, 2010
10:13 am

To the person saying nothing here has changed their mind for voting against Woodall – can you give one reason to vote FOR Woodall? What does the man offer? Judging by those writing checks to him, he is a rubber stamp for their policies. Just travel over to the FEC’s website and look at where his money comes from.

Ken Leonard

July 30th, 2010
10:17 am

Mr. Woodall: “It’s one of those sad things that happen when folks start to believe the end justifies the means.” — It’s not just sad, it’s tragic.

again Mr. Woodall: “I know that Jody’s a good man. I know his heart’s in the right place.” — RW is being too much correctly polite and I’m not convinced that he thinks Mr. Hice is “a good man”. I certainly don’t think JH is good any more than I think he’s intelligent. He needs, among other things, to go back to 5th grade Civics class and learn what “socialist” means.

And, aside from these two red-seat gentlemen, there is a civil, intelligent, demonstrated patriot and leader running in the 7th District: (Col.) Doug Heckman!

Bill Orvis White

July 30th, 2010
10:19 am

Yes, the Woodall fella is middle-age, never married and has been an inside-the-beltway hack for his entire career. Georgia, you will make a huge error if you choose Woodall in the runoff.
Dr. Hice is the way to go. He will make an excellent representative for GA’s 7th. I also believe he could actually get the FAIR Tax passed. Sure, this hack Woodall helped write the book, but the FAIR Tax hasn’t gone anywhere under his watch.
Vote Hice and vote Hice often – spread the word.
God Bless,
Bill

double zero eight

July 30th, 2010
10:20 am

Career politicians need to be thrown out, regardless of the party. We need term limits. The republicans and democrats need to work together.
We do not need a person that is basically going to vote with their party practically 100% of the time. I am tired of the grandstanding by
both parties. We need someone that will be proactive versus reactive.
Someone who has the guts to sponsor meaningful legislation.

Bill Orvis White

July 30th, 2010
10:27 am

@double zero eight
and that person is the Honorable Dr. Jody Hice. He is the right man to represent GA’s 7th district. There are so many other fine folk who will be elected this fall to the House and Senate. We will see a bloodbath whereby Wiccan Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and brain-damaged Harry Reid will be packing their bags.
Amen,
Bill

Jeff in ATL

July 30th, 2010
10:39 am

“We need term limits.”

Do you want term limits to get rid of one’s Representative that he/she likes? Or are term limits the approach to get rid of Representatives in other districts you don’t like?

double zero eight

July 30th, 2010
10:58 am

Jeff in ATL

My personal belief is that no one needs to serve over 20 years. Most that do so are in it for the power and perks. I respect Sam Nunn for bowing out when he did. Robert Byrd and Strom Thurmond served entirely too long.

Red

July 30th, 2010
11:06 am

For a lesson on hammer and sickle history…it has been around for many decades and is not always a symbol tied to “Communism”. If any of you knew history you would even know that during the Revolution in Russia, the Bolsheviks were actually Socialists. Communism is a result of going through a purge after establishing a socialist society. Before there was even a reference to the USSR and a Communist Party, etc. the hammer and sickle existed.

Some young guy writing books, decently educated, and a career of living off the government teat then getting elected. Wow. I was shocked when it happened in the White House. Now the same Republicans disgusted with Obama are going to do it in the 7th. Try working in the private sector a little while…actually in the 7th district. Then tell me how your ties to special interests somehow resolve the government intrusions I face here in the 7th….Woodall = Obama on the other side.

Billy Joe

July 30th, 2010
11:07 am

Power corrupts politicians and I am concerned about Woodall being the incumbent for the past 20 years.

Dr Hice has his own issues – I am a member of Bethlehem First Baptist Church – last year Dr Hice threw out my friend, Joe D – I want to protect his name. He is my friend and a good Christian man – yet Dr Hice did the unChristian action of throwing him out. Any other members have memories/comments about this event? I just think power corrupts everyone!!!

Jeff in ATL

July 30th, 2010
11:13 am

” Robert Byrd and Strom Thurmond served entirely too long”

And that’s your opinion — and if the voters of West Virginia and South Carolina thought those two had served two long, they could have voted for different candidates.

I’ve just never understood why you should make the decision for people in other congressional districts and states.

Red

July 30th, 2010
11:16 am

Billy Joe – last I checked there is a process of “throwing out”. I never knew a Baptist church where a pastor could singlehandedly throw someone out. By all means, feel free to elaborate on the circumstances. I’d love details to back up your assertion. Nothing like coming on a blog, making a huge claim, and not give all facts on the situation.

Billy Joe

July 30th, 2010
11:25 am

Red – you seem to be a fan/friend/confidante/supporter/Woodall=Obama guy – I bet you have more of the details than I have. You seem to be very defensive of the good Doctor…………where there is smoke, there is usually fire…….

Red

July 30th, 2010
11:27 am

Huh? How can I have more details than you? YOU were the one who came on here making wild allegations with no facts backing them up. YOU said it was YOUR friend who got kicked out by Hice. You made the claim…back it up! If there is fire…as I said….by all means proceed.

Billy Joe

July 30th, 2010
11:35 am

Red – I love your word games – you are one of those guys that complains, but offers no solutions. I assure you, the story will come out soon! In the meantime, I’m voting for Woodall. He seems to be honest.

2 thoughts on those hammer-and-sickle billboards in the 7th District | Georgia Elections News

July 30th, 2010
11:38 am

[...] Is the Communist symbolism ascribed to President Barack Obama on billboards over the top? Political Insider Jim Galloway notes that Tim Bryant of WGAU (1340 AM) posed this question to Rob Woodall and Jody Hice, the two GOP runoff candidates in the 7th District congressional contest. Hice is actually the force behind the hammer-and-sickle “Had enough of Obama’s change?” billboards in the district. Hice, as expected, defends the billboards; Woodall, however, appears less strident in his support. Read more. [...]

Jon Lester

July 30th, 2010
11:40 am

Would Jody Hice like for us to leave NATO? After all, most of our allies are “socialist welfare states.”

Personally, I’d take a Scandinavian quality of life over what we have today, anytime.

Steve

July 30th, 2010
11:48 am

@BIllyJoe – The most time-honored of political games, the mudslinging, begins now. Go ahead and bring it all out into the light of day. I’m sure an honorable person like Jody would prefer that approach anyways

Alex

July 30th, 2010
11:56 am

I think Mr. Woodall hit the nail on the head and revealed what kind of congressman he will be. He is unwilling to rock the boat, but will compramise like most republicans have been doing for years. They give the Liberals what they want and get nothing in return. If you want more of the same then by all means cast your vote for Mr. Woodall. If however you want someone who will take a stand and fight the left then the choice is an obvious Jody Hice.

Alex

July 30th, 2010
11:57 am

I think Mr. Woodall hit the nail on the head and revealed what kind of congressman he will be. He is unwilling to rock the boat, but will compromise like most republicans have been doing for years. They give the Liberals what they want and get nothing in return. If you want more of the same then by all means cast your vote for Mr. Woodall. If however you want someone who will take a stand and fight the left then the choice is an obvious Jody Hice.

Red

July 30th, 2010
12:02 pm

Word games…coming from some guy who claims his poor little friend was victimized by a bad ol’ Baptist preacher in Bethlehem? If you like making wild claims and not backing it up, I suggest you work for the White House. Blaming the country’s ills on Bush, Fox News, and some massive Jewish cabal seems to be right up your alley. I’m also not sure how your standard of ‘Honest’ is worth much seeing how you bear false witness against someone. You cannot even be honest with your own claim on this blog.

Obama

July 30th, 2010
12:04 pm

Wow. This Woodall guy sounds just like me! He’s emulated my career in so many ways! We both wrote books. We’ve both been hanging around on the taxpayers dime. The only difference is Rob is far more insider than me…or at least more than I pretended to be.

BLM

July 30th, 2010
12:35 pm

Red said:”I’m frankly tired of DC elites, you know the ones WE elect, telling us what we can and cannot do. And frankly I’m tired of the arrogance of people like Woodall telling me what is good for me and that some DC insider status is best for deciding what is good for the district.”

But if you elect Hice and he goes to Washington, then tomorrow he’s going to be one of those dreaded “Washington insiders” and next week you’ll be complaining about him “telling you what to do”. Oh, wait… that’s right…that’s all you do isn’t it…complain!

Red

July 30th, 2010
1:05 pm

There is a difference between someone who has actually worked the system for over a decade and someone who just gets elected. Woodall has actually been paid staff elected by no one. Hice is someone who is asking a majority of the district to elect him. Woodall’s allegiance is to a paycheck. Now he suddenly wants to move into the district and buy a house and claim to be just anyone else in the district.

If we’re about electing someone just because they have insider status, let’s shop around for the best one out there. There are many more far better connected insiders who dine with lobbyists and special interests out there. Why limit ourselves? I’m not about electing someone who has “been in bed” (figuratively here people) with more lobbyists, interests, PAC’s, and other Hill staffers than the opponent. Are we seriously saying this is a plus?

SuzyQ

July 30th, 2010
1:07 pm

I love it that Jody Hice was bold enough to put up those billboards! Politicians like Rob Woodall are too afraid to rock the boat and take a stand about really important issues, and I think it’s refreshing for someone to just say it like it is. Rob has been shaped into the Washington mold, and the condescending way he speaks just illustrates it. They think they know what’s best for us and that we are incapable of thinking for ourselves.

Desperate times call for desperate measures, and using the hammer and sickle symbol is necessary in this case to illustrate the danger our nation is in of losing our personal freedoms and being controlled more and more by the State. The definition of “socialism” is “(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the TRANSITION of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.” All the signs are there that our society is moving from capitalism to communism. Socialism is the transition stage. Obama’s administration has gone too far too fast in that direction for us not to notice. Those of us who were formerly unaware of the trend or just complacent have had our eyes opened to what’s really happening. We are alarmed that we’re about to lose the Liberty our forefathers fought and died for.
Jody Hice and many other Patriots are concerned enough to get in the arena and fight for our great nation and our liberties to be preserved. I, for one, will do what I can to support that cause.

It has been said that Communism is Socialism with a gun to your head. Think about it. What if we refuse to comply with all the “mandatory” requirements the federal government keeps demanding of us? And what if our 2nd amendment rights are curtailed and we have no means to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government? Sadly, it’s happened before in other societies. May it never get to the point that it happens here in the USA.

It is imperative that we educate ourselves and respond in intelligent and thoughtful ways.

ga775

July 30th, 2010
1:15 pm

If one of the Hice supporters can name ONE thing Hice has said he will do that Rob won’t, I will switch my vote right here today. The fact is Rob has said on the first day of Congress he will introduce a bill to end birthright citizenship, a bill to freeze federal spending, the FairTax, and a repeal bill for TARP and Stimulus. What has jody said he will actually DO? Platitudes about issue positions don’t count, give me a specific.

Red

July 30th, 2010
2:03 pm

ga775 – if he were the first to do this you may have something. But considering these are things already in the works, Rob’s ‘plan’ is exactly what you claim Hice is doing – ‘platitudes’. If he’s so plugged in and working so hard, why hasn’t he done these already? Or is Woodall just another one of these guys who suddenly has grand ideas only when running for office? Amazing how the guy’s been there for a decade but suddenly wants to do these things…which are already being pushed. And who is the one with platitudes here?

Rural Education

July 30th, 2010
3:22 pm

Suzy Q; back away from Fox and get real. The greatest danger to your civil liberties was perpetrated under G W Bush with the Patriot Act. Mr. Hice will be completely ignored in Congress and made to sit with the other odd children. You must be able to compromise, the “my way or the highway” does not work with adults.

Mercy!

July 30th, 2010
4:14 pm

My word to Billy Joe.You need not bring your personal opinions about another church member into this discussion about the candidates & their qualifications.I might say that a pastor also has a business to run.He is responsible for running a church,shepherding people,payrolls,just as a regular business.. If a person is asked to leave a church for a period of time,it would not be done without a unanimous vote of a committee AND a pastor & it would only be done if a person’s behavior or actions were seriously detrimental to the body of the church.Good Christians are still able to do bad things,just as bad things happen to good people.The issue you speak of is not an issue here or there anymore,we speak of poltics dear,not grudge matches! Hice would be a refreshing,fair & honest addition to Congress.He’s not afraid to stand up for what He believes to be right or fair–no matter what the issue and it will be much prayed for beforehand(as was the difficult decison that was made.NO ONE took joy over what happened but one persons actions that disrupt harmony & go against God’s principles cannot be tolerated in a church any more than many issues that Hice may face in government).My vote remains Hice–all the way!

Mercyless!

July 30th, 2010
4:23 pm

I always thought that the Christian thing to do was to help people in their time of sin and need. WWJD???????????

Mercyless!

July 30th, 2010
4:24 pm

Who is Mercy and what is she talking about?

True Conservative

July 30th, 2010
4:35 pm

After reading these comments I see many who are a bit turned off by the billboard. Many of these types of comments are from democrats mind you, but here is a word for the republicans.

Do you honestly not think that what Obama, Pelosi, and Reid is radical? Call it whatever you want! Obama declared that he wanted to “fundamentally transform America.” Well he is doing it, at our own peril. Jody Hice seems to be calling a spade a spade, and mushy moderate republicans like Woodall feel all icky when we get down to the truth. We have to stand up to Obama and those of his ilk, or we are in trouble. Vote Hice.

Butch

July 30th, 2010
5:48 pm

Here is an interesting thought. Lets talk about a country embroiled in war in Afganistan, with a nationalized healthcare and banking system, buried in government debt with a sagging economy being propped up by government deficit spending, and a people disillusioned, divided and feeling oppressed. Sounds like America right now right? WRONG that was our old enemies the USSR about thirty years ago and they continued on said path until they fell off a cliff and were destroyed as a nation. Now we The UNITED STATES of AMERICA stand at that same precipice. Shall we continue on this path or shall we change direction? I choose Jody Hice and view his billboards as a fair warning to us all! Our old enemies taught us this lesson already! Shall we learn or shall we burn! I hope and pray history does not repeat itself. As far as Mr. Woodall is concerned, I am sure he is a man of good intentions and he claims his experience in Washington is the reason he can get more done. Well he has been there for a decade and look at whats gotten done! Dramatic change will only come from honest people outside the DC network being elected and restoring common sense to government. The mandate of our nation is to establish justice not hamstring it, insure domestic tranquility not compromise it, provide for the common defense not deter it, promote the general welfare not finance it, secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity not deny blessing it! What will you choose?

Mercy!

July 30th, 2010
5:50 pm

Mercyless it IS the Christian way to love,forgive,pray for and help others.They must see the err of their ways first & be open to getting things right.Yes,WWJD is an old addage I use everytime I have a decision to make.You cannot let a persons illegal & immoral actions destroy a church.That’s not God’s will for any church anywhere.You are to approach a person in love with several others & discuss the situation at hand & what to do about it.I’ve said all that needs to be said on this matter and Billy Joe/Mercyless(more than likely one in the same) this blog is about which candidate is more qualified and will do a better job for the 7th district when elected–NOT about a personal beef you may have.You need to pray about that & talk to God & go to another pastor for counseling if you aren’t satisfied with decision made at your own church for the good of the entire congregation.We live in a free country & if you are not happy at your own church,you are free to move your membership elsewhere,In case you are unaware,Chrisitians DO bleed just like non-Christians.We also repent & get back on track in our Christian walk. The one asked to leave at this church(and it WAS NOT Dr.Hice) is a precious child of God who took a very dark & dangerous path in life.He is very much loved & prayed for even though he was asked to leave.That’s God’s way whomever you are or are representing.The subject here today is vote Hice or Woodall.Woodall is as Kevin mentioned earlier today,a “sock puppet” of Linder’s.We don’t need to carry on the old tradition that didn’t work before.We need a fresh voice & Hice will take a stand!

SuzyQ

July 30th, 2010
8:08 pm

To Rural Education: I don’t dispute the fact that many of Bush’s policies continued taking us down a path toward socialism. It was going on way before Bush came to office. Bush isn’t there anymore, but there are many more politicians still in Congress who’ve been voting away our freedoms for a very long time. The Congress is where much of the blame lies, and those who are willing to compromise our Constitutional rights must be sent home so we can vote in people who will not compromise. But, as I said in the previous post, “Obama’s administration has gone too far too fast in that direction (towards socialism) for us not to notice. Those of us who were formerly unaware of the trend or just complacent have had our eyes opened to what’s really happening. We are alarmed that we’re about to lose the Liberty our forefathers fought and died for.” I was a previously unaware young mother busy raising my kids and not really paying that much attention to what was going on politically until the current administration began radically trying to transform America. I woke up and began reading and becoming better educated. The more I learn, the more convinced I am of these truths. Study the Constitution and it won’t take long to realize that the federal government has spun out of control. It remains to be seen whether we can rein it in again, but I am not willing to just compromise and see the country destroyed.

To Butch and True Conservative: Thanks for your posts. I agree with you completely.

Don Brock

July 30th, 2010
9:09 pm

Winston Churchill once said, “If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
Jody Hice is going to Congress because he knows that it’s time to fight for our Country, our Constitution, and our Freedom to continue to live in America as we know it, so our children and grandchildren will have the same opportunities we have had.
I grew up in the 50’s and we feared the Communists. We would hide under our desks and my Mother feared the Communist Invasion. When Ronald Reagan forced Gorbachev to “Tear Down That Wall” we all felt relieved. Mom is gone now, but the Communists are here, in control and as Khrushchev promised, they did it without firing a shot. They took over from within.
Dr Hice is an Honorable man who does not have a bent towards being Politically Correct. He is a Regular Citizen, from the 7th, just like any of us who speak our minds, tell the truth, do the right thing and don’t care what anyone else thinks about it as long as we know it’s Right.
The blogging here about the difference between Socialism and Communism is inconsequential. Socialism is where America is NOW and Communism is where we are GOING TO END UP unless more Citizens heed Churchill’s words and Defend Our Liberties while there is still time. We don’t need to ‘Work Across the Aisle’ instead we need to UNDO what they have done to America.
Jody Hice has shown that he has the Will to take on the other side of the aisle rather than working with them for more of the same.
God Bless America and God Bless Jody Hice

Jules

July 30th, 2010
9:48 pm

Scary stuff from most of these Jody Hice zombies! They want to tear it down and start over. Wow – pretty scary! And they do it under the guise of being a good Christian – scary. I think Jesus would want us to come together, help those less fortunate, and live in peace. The far right wants internal war! Scary – and ignorant!

bill

July 30th, 2010
10:01 pm

communist, socialist its all code words for the president is black thats not acceptable lets not kid ourselves. Obama is bush lite at best far from liberal.

t

July 30th, 2010
10:04 pm

you are putting words in people’s mouths. Start over on health care reform? Heck yeah! You don’t have much of an argument because your social democrats are failing to govern and all you can do is misrepresent. Consider yourself exposed.

Don Brock

July 30th, 2010
10:27 pm

I did not realize that I was to use a pseudonym where it said ‘Name’ but perhaps if each of you were to use your Real Name there would be less biased dribble and more substantive conversation from both sides.
Remember, “It’s Freedom of Religion” not freedom from religion.

ga775

July 30th, 2010
10:51 pm

I think Christian principles should inform your governing policies, but they should not be the crux of your policy-making decisions. It is genuinely scary to hear many of you bash the admittedly socialistic path we are on, but then in the same breath stump for what is essentially a theocracy. The Founders wanted neither. They wanted a Republic founded upon Christian principles made up of good, decent citizens – not a nutty political religious crusade focused on the personal destruction of another decent man that has offered himself to service.

Donald

July 30th, 2010
11:38 pm

Guess what today is! Its June 30, 2010. Do you know what that means? It means our federal government spent $4,000,000,000.00 more then it received in revenues today. It did not just spend $4,000,000,000.00 it spent $4,000,000,000.00 more than it made. How do I know this you ask? Because that is what it does every single day! Where does it get that money you ask? Most of it is borrowed from China. So everyone who thinks dramatic change isn’t needed consider this. All the arguments about socialism or communism are irrelevant because congress is selling America to China one loan at a time. What are you going to do about it!?

Roy McCreary

July 31st, 2010
6:59 am

I am behind Jody Hice 100%, and want a Congressman that is not a Washington insider and GOP establishment candidate that is not afraid to make the left angry. I want a Congressman that will take the fight to the socialists/communists. I want a Congressman that will say no to earmarks. I want a Congressman that will challenge the status quo, abolish the IRS, and install the Fair Tax. Also, it would sure be nice to have a politician in Washington that is a true Christian, and not just another mouthpiece.

t

July 31st, 2010
9:03 am

@ga775, so let me get this straight.

All ministers should be forbidden from serving as a public official.

All Hice supporters are nutty and indecent.

There has been a crusade of personal destruction against Woodall?

Fiction on all 3 counts, lovely.

patty

July 31st, 2010
12:08 pm

It makes me sad that people who don’t really know Dr. Jody Hice are getting wrong information about him. He is an honorable man who has a deep faith in God, our creator, and loves his community and country dearly. He is not the radical that some are trying to make him out to be. He isn’t afraid to speak the truth. He knows the constitution from inside out. He also, knows that the constitution isn’t being followed by some in power. As for Barrow County. I live here, and I can tell you that Jody Hice is well respected and loved. I am not related to him. I don’t attend his church etc. I have just come to know him through the community. We appreciate him giving his best to help our county out in the fight with the ACLU. Check the votes in the primary. They speak for themselves.
One more thing, The first time I met Rob Woodall, I was actually with Dr. Hice. at the National Day of Prayer. After, Woodall left, I asked Jody, “Isn’t he your opponent in the race for U.S. Congress”? (This was a couple of days after Dr. Hice had announced he was getting in the race.) Jody spoke well of Woodall and made nice comments about him. I know Jody Hice to be an honorable, compassionate and intelligent man; a fine gentleman.

patty

July 31st, 2010
12:14 pm

Don Brock, you are right on! You said it so well!

Susan Baum Biondo

July 31st, 2010
1:46 pm

When the US owned the utility companies and subsidized the airline industry no one called this socialism and no one called the US socialistic.
According to Forbes Magazine, Glen Beck made $30 million last year with little knowledge, political understanding, or historical accuracy; and used terms not understanding their meaning and made dumb statements like communism is the same as socialism. It’s apparent, Mr. Hice doesn’t know much about history, governments, economics, or our international governments of NATO countries. He definitely would not be using that radio hype, I call “the sky is falling”- and such an ignorant, offensive billboard unless this was about radio and money.
Socialists do not like communists and never have and the idea as a step to Communism is ludicrous based on history events of existing socialistic countries. Communists tried to take over the Socialist parties in England and the English socialists defeated the communists. The English Labour Party of Tony Blair has a basis in the exact Socialist group that rose to power in the early 1900s that defeated them. The Labour Party is anything but Socialist or Communist as we saw.
When Mr. Hice or anyone, purposefully insults Obama or Democrats by calling them a socialist they show a lot of ignorance and a lack of ethic to at least use the insult in the proper context. You insult Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, and so forth, Denmark, Sweden, and Finland are three countries with long-standing Socialistic governments and for your information their economies are often in the top 5 in the world in almost every category attributed to thriving free market world economies yearly. You look foolish to citizens of Germany, England, France, and the State of New Hampshire, and look foolish to those that study history, political science, world economics to name a few. I am all for education but don’t just read the internet and Wikkipedia.
Mr. Hice sounds like he is destined to earn millions of dollars, if he will just cry a little, or go on about his own patriotism like Hannity or tell everyone the “sky is falling” everyday like Rushbo because their multi-million dollar supporters are not in power now.
Please read something mind expanding by others than Fox contributors. I will pray for the day when the Republicans return to Eisenhower, Reagan, George Bush 41, (not 43) and the common sense moderates so the US has good, smart, moderate Republicans to join good, smart, moderate Democrats to lead this country again.

Donald

July 31st, 2010
8:52 pm

Dear Susan Baum Biondo are you implying Obama, Pelosi and Reid are good moderate Democrats? If so, I am sorry to inform you but you lose all credibility if you consider them moderate. If you think their agenda doesn’t point towards socialism then please enlighten us where is it going? I am not a big fan of conservative talk show hosts either, so guess what I don’t listen. The mainstream media is just as guilty of uninformed bias for progressives as the talk show hosts are for conservatism. To be perfectly honest they are both part of the problem not the solution. As for socialism not leading to communism I think you need a history lesson yourself. The Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republic came from the Russian revolution. It was designed to be a socialist state but was dominated by the communist party and became a one party government (the communist party in case you didn’t know). So that seems to be a pretty good example of a stepping stone from socialism to communism. All those countries you like to parade out as successful examples of socialism. Sweden is a Constitutional Monarchy with a capitalist economy, Denmark is a Constitutional Monarchy with a capitalist economy, Finland is a Parlimentary Republic with a free market economy and they can all thank America for their success. For if not for America every one of those countries would have been taken by the Soviets post WWII and I am guessing their nice shiny tidy little countries would not be anywhere near as such under those circumstances in fact it was the umbrella we provided that gave them the opportunity to succeed. They don’t need large defense budgets they have us. Oh and in case you haven’t heard things aren’t so peachy in Iceland right now. As for your statement regarding the sky is falling scare tactics. Well the sky IS FALLING on our heads and our childrens heads as well. Washington has been out of control for years not just during Obamas presidency. Both parties share the guilt for gutting the system for personal gain but I don’t hear you calling any liberals out! I am a conservative and I deeply disappointed in the policies of the right. Having said that they are at least closer to the Constitution than the liberal policy makers by far and so I choose this direction. Dramatic consequences await us if we continue just down this road!

The Right Side of Life » Clearly, Some in the GOP Don’t Want True Change

July 31st, 2010
10:02 pm

[...] Again, that’s the background of a simple political story going on down here. This is what got me to post on the story: Tim Bryant of WGUA in Athens interviewed both Hice and Woodall this week and the subject of the billboard came up. As you might imagine Hice and Woodall disagree about the appropriateness of the hammer and sickle (quote via the Political Insider). [...]

Conservative Native

August 1st, 2010
7:44 pm

Donald,

I was going to respond to Susan Baum Biondo’s misleading/ill-informed/mis-informed/uneducated post, but you hit most of the points I thought of as I read hers. Well done.

Liberals hate informed people.

But I will add this: I have heard the mantra before that socialists and communists hate one another. I would respond with many of Donald’s comments, but add that I am well verse with those who have called themselves both and they do NOT have that hard of a time with one another. They sit on each other’s door steps. Since Susan wanted to bring up Europe, let me add this:

My mother-in-law came here from Italy. Having been to Italy several times and talked not only to her family but to others there as well, there is still a large group of people who identify themselves as communists/socialist. Not my definition, but theirs. They embrace anything associated with either. Perhaps at the power-welding level there is hatred born out of the struggle of who will ultimately be in power, but it’s not an idiological conflict.

I suggest less Kool-Aid and that *you* read more literature than just that which is put out by left-leaning individuals with an agenda.

Jon Lester

August 2nd, 2010
10:44 am

Someone articulates truth in a respectful way and you attack it under the name “Conservative Native?” Tell you what, I’m glad I don’t live in the 7th district and I won’t feel sorry for it if Hice wins. No point arguing further with someone so insufferably sure of their own illusions.

Debbie Rader

August 2nd, 2010
1:26 pm

Hice and Woodall are both great candidates and the 7th district will be well represented with either man. HOWEVER, new blood, new energy, a new perspective…and hey, how about a man that is far from the “typical” politician? I commend any person that will go through the scrutiny that naturally occurs when one runs for office. There is no man that exists that doesn’t have a fault of two. It’s high time to put Godly servers back in Washington. You have my vote Jody Hice!

Jackson Walls

August 2nd, 2010
4:54 pm

Communism is a worldview, socialism is an economic system. Communism embraces socialism, as well as other vital attributes. One being a NON BELIEF in a G-d. It is atheistically based.

So for those of you who embrace socialism – vote for Woodall, for those who abhor the thought, vote for Jody.

They are in the same party but they are worlds apart on the “Source of our Rights” argument.

Socialism is legalized plunder and redistribution of the wealth of others. I thought the government was to protect our lives, liberty and Property.

Woodall said to judge him on the number of laws he repeals, judge him on the fair tax, He must think we all are fools. He will not repeal one law or even get any closer to the fair tax. Anything to get elected. The very thing Woodall says Jody is doing with the H&S.

We are all really in trouble with politics as usual. PAU is why we are here.

Susan Baum Biondo

August 3rd, 2010
1:36 pm

Thank you, Donald and Conservative Native insulter, you made the right points to confirm that history is the past and today is the present. 1. I chuckle at “liberal.” I sent Reid and Pelosi emails saying Obama never asked for the type of stimulus that was passed. They took a few elements from him and basically drafted their own and threw Obama and the needs of working people under the bus – DID YOU. I am a moderate Independent – one who has conservative positions and one who wants to try other ideas and don’t care what party suggests them. I vote for the individual. I hoped and supported the Reagan “trickle down theory” worked but by Bush 41, it was clear it was bad for the middle class and lower, and voters-me pushed Bush 41, out of office because he supported only the wealthiest 20%.
2. Regarding Communism, the overthrow was a government coup, not of those mainstream socialists (who were purged to the point of extinction) that the Communist Party -extremists- fought for and won. A government coup is just that no mater what the name of the extremist Party. The communists “used” the socialists party to elect their leaders to powerful positions prior to the courp but threw-killed or exiled- those that would not turn to “extreme views of communism.” The socialist element was eliminated literally, and the communists tried to gain power doing the very same thing in England if you will take a moment and study their English history – it did not work and it true socialists are known for disliking communist but I can’t help that you don’t believe that.
3. The Scandanavian countries socialist parties fought them and communism failed. Scandanavians, Iceland and other countries, call themselves Socialists (with a capital S) and do have limited public partnership/ownership of certain industries – an basic element of socialism we once had and removed, and do consider themselves capitalists as well due to private ownership. They are not at odds with each other in modern countries. They describe themselves not I. The government frame work you mention for each country does not describe or preclude or change the definition of the terms of democracy, socialism, communism. The US is a representative Republic without a monarchy, even though we also call ourselves a democracy and a capitalist or free market economy. 4. Biondo is Italian for “blonde.” We are aware that there are Italians that think they are using terms correctly. It is a strangely confused government and people in many areas for a century. That is why my husbands family left long ago.
The fact is in the US there will never be socialism and democracy is forever…….Oh, don’t want to jinx it….. unless….. We become a country with an excessive amount of terribly poor people from the middle class, unable to find work, kept from upward mobilization when they merrit it which would cause them to rise up and destablize this country……..and attempt to overthrow the government.
What am I saying, that only happens in other countries without a strong middle class. Find out what the middle class economic statistics are and how much additional American wealth has gone to the wealthiest 10% this year (66% of all US income) and the reality beyond on the internet. Use a non-partisan website – I have been reading Business Insider, Forbes, Slate Magazine lately. It will stagger you and this fantasy won’t look so far fetched. In realtity “socialism” is the fartherest thing from happening to this country.

Donald

August 9th, 2010
8:10 pm

Welcome back Susan. After reading your last post I had to chuckle myself. You may be the least informed idealist I have ever read. First, even though you didn’t answer any of my questions, I will be happy to answer yours. Yes I did e-mail Pelosi and Reid! Their responses were almost identical. They both stated since I was not in their respective districts they could not comment to my e-mail except to acknowledge it was received! As for loading the stimulus with things Obama did not want. last time I checked the President has to sign this spending into law. He had the power of veto and chose not to. This in and of itself is proof he is not ready to be President. He is given the veto as part of the checks and balance of power of the executive branch. Choosing not to use it implies one of two things. He signed the stimulus package because he liked it, or he signed because he lacks the strength to resist congress. Either one makes him unqualified for the job!

Starsque

August 10th, 2010
1:29 pm

You get good policy in Washington by putting straight shooters in Congress, not by putting people in office who want to “play the game” or destroy the country. Seems like the only people who really understand the ugly place this country is headed are those with Godly discernment and experience in being persecuted.
I don’t think what Hice is doing is bad or that it will affect his effectiveness in Congress. He’s being honest and forthright about Obama and that’s the real American spirit; the kind that Americans are hungry for. Speaking of Obama, his electoral ploys were mmm… most questionable and the current Congress majority is proving their appetite for un-American policy put forth by him. I say it’s time for a good old fashioned American shake up, Christian Conservative Republican style! BTW, I’m not a member of Hice’s church. I’m not a Baptist. I don’t even live in Georgia. This thing is a lot bigger than that!

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