Hem and huff over hammers and sickles in the 7th District

Over the past two mornings, Tim Bryant of WGAU (1340AM) in Athens has hosted the two GOP runoff candidates in the 7th District congressional contest – Rob Woodall, the former chief of staff to retiring John Linder, and Jody Hice, who is also in the talk radio business.

The “Had enough of Obama’s change?” billboards placed by Hice in the district, prominently spelling the word “change” with a hammer-and-sickle, were a natural topic.

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Bryant asked each candidate if he thought the communist symbolism was over the top. Said Hice on Wednesday:

7th District GOP candidate Jody Hice

7th District GOP candidate Jody Hice

“I make no bones about it. I respect the office of the president, but I make no bones about it – I do not respect the policies of this president, which are socialistic.

“We are watching this administration take over the health care industry, the banking industry, the student loan industry, the insurance industry, automobile — one part of the private sector after another.”

But Woodall was of another opinion, and gently implied that Hice himself was dabbling in a little Leninism:

“It’s one of those sad things that happen when folks start to believe the end justifies the means.

7th District GOP candidate Rob Woodall

7th District GOP candidate Rob Woodall

“I know that Jody’s a good man. I know his heart’s in the right place. And kicking sand like that is exactly the way to get elected in a Republican primary. I’m sure he had someone give him some very good advice….

“But the truth is that’s not how you get good policy passed in Washington. Kicking sand only gets you through the primary.
It doesn’t help you implement good policy for the country.

“So do I think that was a clever electoral ploy? Absolutely. I think he got out of it exactly what he wanted to get out of it. Do I think that’s going to hurt him, in terms of being taken seriously in the halls of Congress? Absolutely, I do.”

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BLM

July 30th, 2010
12:35 pm

Red said:”I’m frankly tired of DC elites, you know the ones WE elect, telling us what we can and cannot do. And frankly I’m tired of the arrogance of people like Woodall telling me what is good for me and that some DC insider status is best for deciding what is good for the district.”

But if you elect Hice and he goes to Washington, then tomorrow he’s going to be one of those dreaded “Washington insiders” and next week you’ll be complaining about him “telling you what to do”. Oh, wait… that’s right…that’s all you do isn’t it…complain!

Red

July 30th, 2010
1:05 pm

There is a difference between someone who has actually worked the system for over a decade and someone who just gets elected. Woodall has actually been paid staff elected by no one. Hice is someone who is asking a majority of the district to elect him. Woodall’s allegiance is to a paycheck. Now he suddenly wants to move into the district and buy a house and claim to be just anyone else in the district.

If we’re about electing someone just because they have insider status, let’s shop around for the best one out there. There are many more far better connected insiders who dine with lobbyists and special interests out there. Why limit ourselves? I’m not about electing someone who has “been in bed” (figuratively here people) with more lobbyists, interests, PAC’s, and other Hill staffers than the opponent. Are we seriously saying this is a plus?

SuzyQ

July 30th, 2010
1:07 pm

I love it that Jody Hice was bold enough to put up those billboards! Politicians like Rob Woodall are too afraid to rock the boat and take a stand about really important issues, and I think it’s refreshing for someone to just say it like it is. Rob has been shaped into the Washington mold, and the condescending way he speaks just illustrates it. They think they know what’s best for us and that we are incapable of thinking for ourselves.

Desperate times call for desperate measures, and using the hammer and sickle symbol is necessary in this case to illustrate the danger our nation is in of losing our personal freedoms and being controlled more and more by the State. The definition of “socialism” is “(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the TRANSITION of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.” All the signs are there that our society is moving from capitalism to communism. Socialism is the transition stage. Obama’s administration has gone too far too fast in that direction for us not to notice. Those of us who were formerly unaware of the trend or just complacent have had our eyes opened to what’s really happening. We are alarmed that we’re about to lose the Liberty our forefathers fought and died for.
Jody Hice and many other Patriots are concerned enough to get in the arena and fight for our great nation and our liberties to be preserved. I, for one, will do what I can to support that cause.

It has been said that Communism is Socialism with a gun to your head. Think about it. What if we refuse to comply with all the “mandatory” requirements the federal government keeps demanding of us? And what if our 2nd amendment rights are curtailed and we have no means to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government? Sadly, it’s happened before in other societies. May it never get to the point that it happens here in the USA.

It is imperative that we educate ourselves and respond in intelligent and thoughtful ways.

ga775

July 30th, 2010
1:15 pm

If one of the Hice supporters can name ONE thing Hice has said he will do that Rob won’t, I will switch my vote right here today. The fact is Rob has said on the first day of Congress he will introduce a bill to end birthright citizenship, a bill to freeze federal spending, the FairTax, and a repeal bill for TARP and Stimulus. What has jody said he will actually DO? Platitudes about issue positions don’t count, give me a specific.

Red

July 30th, 2010
2:03 pm

ga775 – if he were the first to do this you may have something. But considering these are things already in the works, Rob’s ‘plan’ is exactly what you claim Hice is doing – ‘platitudes’. If he’s so plugged in and working so hard, why hasn’t he done these already? Or is Woodall just another one of these guys who suddenly has grand ideas only when running for office? Amazing how the guy’s been there for a decade but suddenly wants to do these things…which are already being pushed. And who is the one with platitudes here?

Rural Education

July 30th, 2010
3:22 pm

Suzy Q; back away from Fox and get real. The greatest danger to your civil liberties was perpetrated under G W Bush with the Patriot Act. Mr. Hice will be completely ignored in Congress and made to sit with the other odd children. You must be able to compromise, the “my way or the highway” does not work with adults.

Mercy!

July 30th, 2010
4:14 pm

My word to Billy Joe.You need not bring your personal opinions about another church member into this discussion about the candidates & their qualifications.I might say that a pastor also has a business to run.He is responsible for running a church,shepherding people,payrolls,just as a regular business.. If a person is asked to leave a church for a period of time,it would not be done without a unanimous vote of a committee AND a pastor & it would only be done if a person’s behavior or actions were seriously detrimental to the body of the church.Good Christians are still able to do bad things,just as bad things happen to good people.The issue you speak of is not an issue here or there anymore,we speak of poltics dear,not grudge matches! Hice would be a refreshing,fair & honest addition to Congress.He’s not afraid to stand up for what He believes to be right or fair–no matter what the issue and it will be much prayed for beforehand(as was the difficult decison that was made.NO ONE took joy over what happened but one persons actions that disrupt harmony & go against God’s principles cannot be tolerated in a church any more than many issues that Hice may face in government).My vote remains Hice–all the way!

Mercyless!

July 30th, 2010
4:23 pm

I always thought that the Christian thing to do was to help people in their time of sin and need. WWJD???????????

Mercyless!

July 30th, 2010
4:24 pm

Who is Mercy and what is she talking about?

True Conservative

July 30th, 2010
4:35 pm

After reading these comments I see many who are a bit turned off by the billboard. Many of these types of comments are from democrats mind you, but here is a word for the republicans.

Do you honestly not think that what Obama, Pelosi, and Reid is radical? Call it whatever you want! Obama declared that he wanted to “fundamentally transform America.” Well he is doing it, at our own peril. Jody Hice seems to be calling a spade a spade, and mushy moderate republicans like Woodall feel all icky when we get down to the truth. We have to stand up to Obama and those of his ilk, or we are in trouble. Vote Hice.

Butch

July 30th, 2010
5:48 pm

Here is an interesting thought. Lets talk about a country embroiled in war in Afganistan, with a nationalized healthcare and banking system, buried in government debt with a sagging economy being propped up by government deficit spending, and a people disillusioned, divided and feeling oppressed. Sounds like America right now right? WRONG that was our old enemies the USSR about thirty years ago and they continued on said path until they fell off a cliff and were destroyed as a nation. Now we The UNITED STATES of AMERICA stand at that same precipice. Shall we continue on this path or shall we change direction? I choose Jody Hice and view his billboards as a fair warning to us all! Our old enemies taught us this lesson already! Shall we learn or shall we burn! I hope and pray history does not repeat itself. As far as Mr. Woodall is concerned, I am sure he is a man of good intentions and he claims his experience in Washington is the reason he can get more done. Well he has been there for a decade and look at whats gotten done! Dramatic change will only come from honest people outside the DC network being elected and restoring common sense to government. The mandate of our nation is to establish justice not hamstring it, insure domestic tranquility not compromise it, provide for the common defense not deter it, promote the general welfare not finance it, secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity not deny blessing it! What will you choose?

Mercy!

July 30th, 2010
5:50 pm

Mercyless it IS the Christian way to love,forgive,pray for and help others.They must see the err of their ways first & be open to getting things right.Yes,WWJD is an old addage I use everytime I have a decision to make.You cannot let a persons illegal & immoral actions destroy a church.That’s not God’s will for any church anywhere.You are to approach a person in love with several others & discuss the situation at hand & what to do about it.I’ve said all that needs to be said on this matter and Billy Joe/Mercyless(more than likely one in the same) this blog is about which candidate is more qualified and will do a better job for the 7th district when elected–NOT about a personal beef you may have.You need to pray about that & talk to God & go to another pastor for counseling if you aren’t satisfied with decision made at your own church for the good of the entire congregation.We live in a free country & if you are not happy at your own church,you are free to move your membership elsewhere,In case you are unaware,Chrisitians DO bleed just like non-Christians.We also repent & get back on track in our Christian walk. The one asked to leave at this church(and it WAS NOT Dr.Hice) is a precious child of God who took a very dark & dangerous path in life.He is very much loved & prayed for even though he was asked to leave.That’s God’s way whomever you are or are representing.The subject here today is vote Hice or Woodall.Woodall is as Kevin mentioned earlier today,a “sock puppet” of Linder’s.We don’t need to carry on the old tradition that didn’t work before.We need a fresh voice & Hice will take a stand!

SuzyQ

July 30th, 2010
8:08 pm

To Rural Education: I don’t dispute the fact that many of Bush’s policies continued taking us down a path toward socialism. It was going on way before Bush came to office. Bush isn’t there anymore, but there are many more politicians still in Congress who’ve been voting away our freedoms for a very long time. The Congress is where much of the blame lies, and those who are willing to compromise our Constitutional rights must be sent home so we can vote in people who will not compromise. But, as I said in the previous post, “Obama’s administration has gone too far too fast in that direction (towards socialism) for us not to notice. Those of us who were formerly unaware of the trend or just complacent have had our eyes opened to what’s really happening. We are alarmed that we’re about to lose the Liberty our forefathers fought and died for.” I was a previously unaware young mother busy raising my kids and not really paying that much attention to what was going on politically until the current administration began radically trying to transform America. I woke up and began reading and becoming better educated. The more I learn, the more convinced I am of these truths. Study the Constitution and it won’t take long to realize that the federal government has spun out of control. It remains to be seen whether we can rein it in again, but I am not willing to just compromise and see the country destroyed.

To Butch and True Conservative: Thanks for your posts. I agree with you completely.

Don Brock

July 30th, 2010
9:09 pm

Winston Churchill once said, “If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
Jody Hice is going to Congress because he knows that it’s time to fight for our Country, our Constitution, and our Freedom to continue to live in America as we know it, so our children and grandchildren will have the same opportunities we have had.
I grew up in the 50’s and we feared the Communists. We would hide under our desks and my Mother feared the Communist Invasion. When Ronald Reagan forced Gorbachev to “Tear Down That Wall” we all felt relieved. Mom is gone now, but the Communists are here, in control and as Khrushchev promised, they did it without firing a shot. They took over from within.
Dr Hice is an Honorable man who does not have a bent towards being Politically Correct. He is a Regular Citizen, from the 7th, just like any of us who speak our minds, tell the truth, do the right thing and don’t care what anyone else thinks about it as long as we know it’s Right.
The blogging here about the difference between Socialism and Communism is inconsequential. Socialism is where America is NOW and Communism is where we are GOING TO END UP unless more Citizens heed Churchill’s words and Defend Our Liberties while there is still time. We don’t need to ‘Work Across the Aisle’ instead we need to UNDO what they have done to America.
Jody Hice has shown that he has the Will to take on the other side of the aisle rather than working with them for more of the same.
God Bless America and God Bless Jody Hice

Jules

July 30th, 2010
9:48 pm

Scary stuff from most of these Jody Hice zombies! They want to tear it down and start over. Wow – pretty scary! And they do it under the guise of being a good Christian – scary. I think Jesus would want us to come together, help those less fortunate, and live in peace. The far right wants internal war! Scary – and ignorant!

bill

July 30th, 2010
10:01 pm

communist, socialist its all code words for the president is black thats not acceptable lets not kid ourselves. Obama is bush lite at best far from liberal.

t

July 30th, 2010
10:04 pm

you are putting words in people’s mouths. Start over on health care reform? Heck yeah! You don’t have much of an argument because your social democrats are failing to govern and all you can do is misrepresent. Consider yourself exposed.

Don Brock

July 30th, 2010
10:27 pm

I did not realize that I was to use a pseudonym where it said ‘Name’ but perhaps if each of you were to use your Real Name there would be less biased dribble and more substantive conversation from both sides.
Remember, “It’s Freedom of Religion” not freedom from religion.

ga775

July 30th, 2010
10:51 pm

I think Christian principles should inform your governing policies, but they should not be the crux of your policy-making decisions. It is genuinely scary to hear many of you bash the admittedly socialistic path we are on, but then in the same breath stump for what is essentially a theocracy. The Founders wanted neither. They wanted a Republic founded upon Christian principles made up of good, decent citizens – not a nutty political religious crusade focused on the personal destruction of another decent man that has offered himself to service.

Donald

July 30th, 2010
11:38 pm

Guess what today is! Its June 30, 2010. Do you know what that means? It means our federal government spent $4,000,000,000.00 more then it received in revenues today. It did not just spend $4,000,000,000.00 it spent $4,000,000,000.00 more than it made. How do I know this you ask? Because that is what it does every single day! Where does it get that money you ask? Most of it is borrowed from China. So everyone who thinks dramatic change isn’t needed consider this. All the arguments about socialism or communism are irrelevant because congress is selling America to China one loan at a time. What are you going to do about it!?

Roy McCreary

July 31st, 2010
6:59 am

I am behind Jody Hice 100%, and want a Congressman that is not a Washington insider and GOP establishment candidate that is not afraid to make the left angry. I want a Congressman that will take the fight to the socialists/communists. I want a Congressman that will say no to earmarks. I want a Congressman that will challenge the status quo, abolish the IRS, and install the Fair Tax. Also, it would sure be nice to have a politician in Washington that is a true Christian, and not just another mouthpiece.

t

July 31st, 2010
9:03 am

@ga775, so let me get this straight.

All ministers should be forbidden from serving as a public official.

All Hice supporters are nutty and indecent.

There has been a crusade of personal destruction against Woodall?

Fiction on all 3 counts, lovely.

patty

July 31st, 2010
12:08 pm

It makes me sad that people who don’t really know Dr. Jody Hice are getting wrong information about him. He is an honorable man who has a deep faith in God, our creator, and loves his community and country dearly. He is not the radical that some are trying to make him out to be. He isn’t afraid to speak the truth. He knows the constitution from inside out. He also, knows that the constitution isn’t being followed by some in power. As for Barrow County. I live here, and I can tell you that Jody Hice is well respected and loved. I am not related to him. I don’t attend his church etc. I have just come to know him through the community. We appreciate him giving his best to help our county out in the fight with the ACLU. Check the votes in the primary. They speak for themselves.
One more thing, The first time I met Rob Woodall, I was actually with Dr. Hice. at the National Day of Prayer. After, Woodall left, I asked Jody, “Isn’t he your opponent in the race for U.S. Congress”? (This was a couple of days after Dr. Hice had announced he was getting in the race.) Jody spoke well of Woodall and made nice comments about him. I know Jody Hice to be an honorable, compassionate and intelligent man; a fine gentleman.

patty

July 31st, 2010
12:14 pm

Don Brock, you are right on! You said it so well!

Susan Baum Biondo

July 31st, 2010
1:46 pm

When the US owned the utility companies and subsidized the airline industry no one called this socialism and no one called the US socialistic.
According to Forbes Magazine, Glen Beck made $30 million last year with little knowledge, political understanding, or historical accuracy; and used terms not understanding their meaning and made dumb statements like communism is the same as socialism. It’s apparent, Mr. Hice doesn’t know much about history, governments, economics, or our international governments of NATO countries. He definitely would not be using that radio hype, I call “the sky is falling”- and such an ignorant, offensive billboard unless this was about radio and money.
Socialists do not like communists and never have and the idea as a step to Communism is ludicrous based on history events of existing socialistic countries. Communists tried to take over the Socialist parties in England and the English socialists defeated the communists. The English Labour Party of Tony Blair has a basis in the exact Socialist group that rose to power in the early 1900s that defeated them. The Labour Party is anything but Socialist or Communist as we saw.
When Mr. Hice or anyone, purposefully insults Obama or Democrats by calling them a socialist they show a lot of ignorance and a lack of ethic to at least use the insult in the proper context. You insult Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, and so forth, Denmark, Sweden, and Finland are three countries with long-standing Socialistic governments and for your information their economies are often in the top 5 in the world in almost every category attributed to thriving free market world economies yearly. You look foolish to citizens of Germany, England, France, and the State of New Hampshire, and look foolish to those that study history, political science, world economics to name a few. I am all for education but don’t just read the internet and Wikkipedia.
Mr. Hice sounds like he is destined to earn millions of dollars, if he will just cry a little, or go on about his own patriotism like Hannity or tell everyone the “sky is falling” everyday like Rushbo because their multi-million dollar supporters are not in power now.
Please read something mind expanding by others than Fox contributors. I will pray for the day when the Republicans return to Eisenhower, Reagan, George Bush 41, (not 43) and the common sense moderates so the US has good, smart, moderate Republicans to join good, smart, moderate Democrats to lead this country again.

Donald

July 31st, 2010
8:52 pm

Dear Susan Baum Biondo are you implying Obama, Pelosi and Reid are good moderate Democrats? If so, I am sorry to inform you but you lose all credibility if you consider them moderate. If you think their agenda doesn’t point towards socialism then please enlighten us where is it going? I am not a big fan of conservative talk show hosts either, so guess what I don’t listen. The mainstream media is just as guilty of uninformed bias for progressives as the talk show hosts are for conservatism. To be perfectly honest they are both part of the problem not the solution. As for socialism not leading to communism I think you need a history lesson yourself. The Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republic came from the Russian revolution. It was designed to be a socialist state but was dominated by the communist party and became a one party government (the communist party in case you didn’t know). So that seems to be a pretty good example of a stepping stone from socialism to communism. All those countries you like to parade out as successful examples of socialism. Sweden is a Constitutional Monarchy with a capitalist economy, Denmark is a Constitutional Monarchy with a capitalist economy, Finland is a Parlimentary Republic with a free market economy and they can all thank America for their success. For if not for America every one of those countries would have been taken by the Soviets post WWII and I am guessing their nice shiny tidy little countries would not be anywhere near as such under those circumstances in fact it was the umbrella we provided that gave them the opportunity to succeed. They don’t need large defense budgets they have us. Oh and in case you haven’t heard things aren’t so peachy in Iceland right now. As for your statement regarding the sky is falling scare tactics. Well the sky IS FALLING on our heads and our childrens heads as well. Washington has been out of control for years not just during Obamas presidency. Both parties share the guilt for gutting the system for personal gain but I don’t hear you calling any liberals out! I am a conservative and I deeply disappointed in the policies of the right. Having said that they are at least closer to the Constitution than the liberal policy makers by far and so I choose this direction. Dramatic consequences await us if we continue just down this road!

[...] Again, that’s the background of a simple political story going on down here. This is what got me to post on the story: Tim Bryant of WGUA in Athens interviewed both Hice and Woodall this week and the subject of the billboard came up. As you might imagine Hice and Woodall disagree about the appropriateness of the hammer and sickle (quote via the Political Insider). [...]

Conservative Native

August 1st, 2010
7:44 pm

Donald,

I was going to respond to Susan Baum Biondo’s misleading/ill-informed/mis-informed/uneducated post, but you hit most of the points I thought of as I read hers. Well done.

Liberals hate informed people.

But I will add this: I have heard the mantra before that socialists and communists hate one another. I would respond with many of Donald’s comments, but add that I am well verse with those who have called themselves both and they do NOT have that hard of a time with one another. They sit on each other’s door steps. Since Susan wanted to bring up Europe, let me add this:

My mother-in-law came here from Italy. Having been to Italy several times and talked not only to her family but to others there as well, there is still a large group of people who identify themselves as communists/socialist. Not my definition, but theirs. They embrace anything associated with either. Perhaps at the power-welding level there is hatred born out of the struggle of who will ultimately be in power, but it’s not an idiological conflict.

I suggest less Kool-Aid and that *you* read more literature than just that which is put out by left-leaning individuals with an agenda.

Jon Lester

August 2nd, 2010
10:44 am

Someone articulates truth in a respectful way and you attack it under the name “Conservative Native?” Tell you what, I’m glad I don’t live in the 7th district and I won’t feel sorry for it if Hice wins. No point arguing further with someone so insufferably sure of their own illusions.

Debbie Rader

August 2nd, 2010
1:26 pm

Hice and Woodall are both great candidates and the 7th district will be well represented with either man. HOWEVER, new blood, new energy, a new perspective…and hey, how about a man that is far from the “typical” politician? I commend any person that will go through the scrutiny that naturally occurs when one runs for office. There is no man that exists that doesn’t have a fault of two. It’s high time to put Godly servers back in Washington. You have my vote Jody Hice!

Jackson Walls

August 2nd, 2010
4:54 pm

Communism is a worldview, socialism is an economic system. Communism embraces socialism, as well as other vital attributes. One being a NON BELIEF in a G-d. It is atheistically based.

So for those of you who embrace socialism – vote for Woodall, for those who abhor the thought, vote for Jody.

They are in the same party but they are worlds apart on the “Source of our Rights” argument.

Socialism is legalized plunder and redistribution of the wealth of others. I thought the government was to protect our lives, liberty and Property.

Woodall said to judge him on the number of laws he repeals, judge him on the fair tax, He must think we all are fools. He will not repeal one law or even get any closer to the fair tax. Anything to get elected. The very thing Woodall says Jody is doing with the H&S.

We are all really in trouble with politics as usual. PAU is why we are here.

Susan Baum Biondo

August 3rd, 2010
1:36 pm

Thank you, Donald and Conservative Native insulter, you made the right points to confirm that history is the past and today is the present. 1. I chuckle at “liberal.” I sent Reid and Pelosi emails saying Obama never asked for the type of stimulus that was passed. They took a few elements from him and basically drafted their own and threw Obama and the needs of working people under the bus – DID YOU. I am a moderate Independent – one who has conservative positions and one who wants to try other ideas and don’t care what party suggests them. I vote for the individual. I hoped and supported the Reagan “trickle down theory” worked but by Bush 41, it was clear it was bad for the middle class and lower, and voters-me pushed Bush 41, out of office because he supported only the wealthiest 20%.
2. Regarding Communism, the overthrow was a government coup, not of those mainstream socialists (who were purged to the point of extinction) that the Communist Party -extremists- fought for and won. A government coup is just that no mater what the name of the extremist Party. The communists “used” the socialists party to elect their leaders to powerful positions prior to the courp but threw-killed or exiled- those that would not turn to “extreme views of communism.” The socialist element was eliminated literally, and the communists tried to gain power doing the very same thing in England if you will take a moment and study their English history – it did not work and it true socialists are known for disliking communist but I can’t help that you don’t believe that.
3. The Scandanavian countries socialist parties fought them and communism failed. Scandanavians, Iceland and other countries, call themselves Socialists (with a capital S) and do have limited public partnership/ownership of certain industries – an basic element of socialism we once had and removed, and do consider themselves capitalists as well due to private ownership. They are not at odds with each other in modern countries. They describe themselves not I. The government frame work you mention for each country does not describe or preclude or change the definition of the terms of democracy, socialism, communism. The US is a representative Republic without a monarchy, even though we also call ourselves a democracy and a capitalist or free market economy. 4. Biondo is Italian for “blonde.” We are aware that there are Italians that think they are using terms correctly. It is a strangely confused government and people in many areas for a century. That is why my husbands family left long ago.
The fact is in the US there will never be socialism and democracy is forever…….Oh, don’t want to jinx it….. unless….. We become a country with an excessive amount of terribly poor people from the middle class, unable to find work, kept from upward mobilization when they merrit it which would cause them to rise up and destablize this country……..and attempt to overthrow the government.
What am I saying, that only happens in other countries without a strong middle class. Find out what the middle class economic statistics are and how much additional American wealth has gone to the wealthiest 10% this year (66% of all US income) and the reality beyond on the internet. Use a non-partisan website – I have been reading Business Insider, Forbes, Slate Magazine lately. It will stagger you and this fantasy won’t look so far fetched. In realtity “socialism” is the fartherest thing from happening to this country.

Donald

August 9th, 2010
8:10 pm

Welcome back Susan. After reading your last post I had to chuckle myself. You may be the least informed idealist I have ever read. First, even though you didn’t answer any of my questions, I will be happy to answer yours. Yes I did e-mail Pelosi and Reid! Their responses were almost identical. They both stated since I was not in their respective districts they could not comment to my e-mail except to acknowledge it was received! As for loading the stimulus with things Obama did not want. last time I checked the President has to sign this spending into law. He had the power of veto and chose not to. This in and of itself is proof he is not ready to be President. He is given the veto as part of the checks and balance of power of the executive branch. Choosing not to use it implies one of two things. He signed the stimulus package because he liked it, or he signed because he lacks the strength to resist congress. Either one makes him unqualified for the job!

Starsque

August 10th, 2010
1:29 pm

You get good policy in Washington by putting straight shooters in Congress, not by putting people in office who want to “play the game” or destroy the country. Seems like the only people who really understand the ugly place this country is headed are those with Godly discernment and experience in being persecuted.
I don’t think what Hice is doing is bad or that it will affect his effectiveness in Congress. He’s being honest and forthright about Obama and that’s the real American spirit; the kind that Americans are hungry for. Speaking of Obama, his electoral ploys were mmm… most questionable and the current Congress majority is proving their appetite for un-American policy put forth by him. I say it’s time for a good old fashioned American shake up, Christian Conservative Republican style! BTW, I’m not a member of Hice’s church. I’m not a Baptist. I don’t even live in Georgia. This thing is a lot bigger than that!