Roy Barnes unleashed: He wants one-on-one debates with winner of GOP runoff – no panel of journalists

In post-election morning appearances, Democratic nominee for governor Roy Barnes was the picture of humility when discussing his 66 percent comeback.

But very quickly, his campaign issued this YouTube video of his eight-minute, stem-winder of a victory speech that laid into both Karen Handel and Nathan Deal – though not by name.

Toward the end of the address, Barnes begins his push for candidate-on-candidate debates in the fall campaign.

Though he tried to cover it up, anyone who watched the seven-man Democratic primary debates could see Barnes’ frustration with the cumbersome format that has become standard.

The former governor doesn’t want any namby-pamby panel of journalists separating him from his quarry. Whoever it may be.

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Go Roy.

July 21st, 2010
11:24 am

Heck of a speech.

Jan

July 21st, 2010
11:47 am

I agree. Those GPB debates were terrible. On the Rep side, the journalist from the WSJ gave a 10 minute rambling speech with every “question” he asked.

David Staples

July 21st, 2010
11:50 am

How about including the Libertarian, Roy? John Monds will be on the ballot too. http://www.VoteMonds.com

Georgian

July 21st, 2010
11:52 am

He’s against being the “laughing stock of the nation” yet he favors an AZ type of law? Doesn’t make sense Roy!

Vince

July 21st, 2010
12:01 pm

Barnes got 258,367 votes. That means there must be 258,367 people in this state who have no respect for educators. Or, it could mean there are at least 258,367 people who voted that didn’t live here 1998-2002. Or, it could mean there are over a quarter of a million very gllible Georgia voters out there.

Ugh!

Whacks Eloquent

July 21st, 2010
12:02 pm

Can we get John Monds in there too? I think that would be very interesting…

CrazyInGA

July 21st, 2010
12:09 pm

Vince

July 21st, 2010
12:01 pm

Oh Yeah, if we voted for Handel, Oxendine or Deal – it would mean we have less appreciation for education and teachers overall. Georgia has bigger problems than education and we can’t let one item on that long list of problems stand in the way.

Dems need to step it up

July 21st, 2010
12:13 pm

There were a lot more Rebublican voters than Democrat voters in this election. Democrats need to get to the poles in November. I feel better that Oxendine is out of the picture. Him losing restores my faith in the intelligence of Georgians. Great speach Roy! Keep repeating that message and you’ll win in November. Oh, FYI – nobody is gonna vote for John Monds.

Michael Jackson

July 21st, 2010
12:21 pm

Want to know how sophisticated the Georgia electorate is? Look at the Attorney General’s Office races, both of them. Notice anything? Yep, in both primaries the candidates finished in alphabetical order, last I looked. We live in a state where voters, many of them, don’t know anything about any of the multiple candidates listed in races the media doesn’t cover extensively (judicial races are another good example), so they vote for the first one on the list. It’s a well-documented phenomenon. Since candidates are listed on the ballot in alphabetical order, in the upcoming Court of Appeals race, for example, the candidate whose name starts with the lowest letter in the alphabet is a near-certain lock. It’s frightening.

FedUpInRoswell

July 21st, 2010
12:23 pm

Campaign slogan: Roy Barnes – apparently you can fool some of the people all of the time.

Gman

July 21st, 2010
12:27 pm

Only in Georgia can a person without a college degree be seriously considered as a candidate for governor.

horace mann

July 21st, 2010
12:34 pm

Vince
I am a retired educator, and I voted for Roy. My wife is still in education, and she felt Roy is the best qualified. The republicans have ruined public education in Georgia. How can anyone who is concerned with public education vote for a republican for governor?

WAW

July 21st, 2010
12:37 pm

Vince

Time to get over it son, you need to “sit down and shut up” because while that other team is running on and on with their assigned talking points, they are NON-renewing teacher contracts and not allowing it to called layoffs but fired. Try to get a job teaching when you are a non-renewed. You got a contract this year, next year if Roy does not win, you might begin to understand that less government means less teachers.

pn

July 21st, 2010
12:39 pm

No more fish ponds, but Roy and his road builder/developer buddies will make sure that any “spare” millions go for pavement. I’d rather have fish ponds.

Vince

July 21st, 2010
12:42 pm

Horace…How could anyone who lived in Georgia during Roy Barnes’ first reign of terror call themselves an educator…or even educated?

I am an Independant but will vote for whoever opposes Roy Barnes.

Unless you blame America’s economic woes on the Georgia Republicans, what have those guys done to hurt education in Georgia? I cannot think of anything. Certainly our budget woes are not their fault.

Expect all kids to perform at grade level and standardize test the heck out of ‘em? Roy Barnes and his A+ Reform Act gets the blame for that.

NCLB? Roy Barnes and George Bush pioneered the ideas behind that one when they were governors.

Mary B

July 21st, 2010
12:42 pm

can we just bring back Zell?

Goldie

July 21st, 2010
12:43 pm

Can anyone who is concerned about being the laughing-stock of the USA vote for a Republican in November? Go Roy!

todd 1

July 21st, 2010
12:44 pm

I don’t care who wins. No one ever does what they say they are going to do. I believe we should execute politicians who don’t do what they “promise” to do. Also seize all their assets and split them among the citizens, then cremate them and flush their ashes down the toilet!!!

Vince

July 21st, 2010
12:44 pm

WAW…

I will not be quiet when it comes to Roy Barnes. How could people honestly forget or forgive the travesties of his first reign of terror?

Vince

July 21st, 2010
12:45 pm

Goldie….did you live here during the 1998 – 2002 period???

David S

July 21st, 2010
12:49 pm

Yes, we certainly wouldn’t want to give the people a real choice by including any other candidates like John Monds. No doubt the media will be as compliant as necessary and exclude anyone that the ruling elite of the state deem unsuitable (meaning the kind of candidate whose principled small government, pro-freedom agenda would undermine their monopoly on power and control of the government gravy train).

Look for real excitement as the two faces of the one-party system battle it out. I wonder which big government, big spender will win.

ahhkee

July 21st, 2010
12:51 pm

State Of Ga was still at the botton for education under “King Rat , Uh I mean, Roy.” What makes you think The education system would be any different this time? The money is not there. There are a heck of alot more states who do better with less money for education than GA. Get rid of the Teachers unions we have. maybe if the BOEs weren’t so top heavy in salary with Administrators then perhaps they wouldn’t have to get rid of the “good” teachers. We need school choice.

Vince

July 21st, 2010
12:52 pm

First, there were the blatant lies he told educators in order to get elected in 1998 and then “changed his mind” about those same issues just weeks after the election.

When teachers tried to voice their concerns over some of the insane policies of his a+ Reform Act he told us that we were in danger of losing his respect and the respect of the people of Georgia if we didn’t stop voicing our concerns.

After the 2000 census he tried so hard to gerrymander the new congressional districts that members of his own party complained that they had never seen a Governor interfere so much in the process. The US Justice party made us redraw the districts.

Remember having the outer perimeter shoved down our throats?

Vince

July 21st, 2010
12:54 pm

ahhkee

Georgia doesn’t have any real teachers unions.

David S

July 21st, 2010
12:55 pm

todd 1 – Best suggestion yet. And just think of how many fewer politicians we would have to deal with and pay for. Finally, instead of running for office just for the perks, power, and future payoffs from private industry, we might actually have some good folks who actually care about principles.

Dreamer.

But of course harkening back to a recent Bob Barr posting, to be environmentally friendly, we would need to liquify them in potassium hydroxide solution and flush then down the drain as cremation is apparently too carbon-unfriendly.

Left in the South

July 21st, 2010
12:56 pm

Vince,
1998-2002: Unemployment was a lot lower. The PSC was not all Repug and actually turned down rate hike requests. Mass transit was actually being planned (We might have been included in high-speed rail plans had Go Fish Sonny not dismembered this). 2002…..oh yeah that’s when Diebold stole the election from Roy.

Vince

July 21st, 2010
12:59 pm

Left in the South…

So…… you think the world’s economic problems are the fault of Sonny Perdue? Yeah, great thinking there.

ahhkee

July 21st, 2010
12:59 pm

Oh yeah what happened to the Stimulus Plan to save jobs. I thought we were told by PresBO that unemployment wouldn’t be over 8%.

Horace Mann

July 21st, 2010
1:06 pm

Vince
Have you tried Zoloft or other anti-depressants?

You Asked

July 21st, 2010
1:09 pm

When I see someone writing about how Diebold stole elections I know to discount their comments immediately.

I’ve worked polls since before the Diebold machines were used and your vote is much safer now than it ever was on a paper ballot. In fact I doubt that there is a single instance of someone “finding” a box of Diebold memory cards and back up paper reports in the trunk of their car a few days after an election ala Al Franken. Diebold machines don’t have hanging chads created by someone poking through a stack of ballots with a wire ala Al Gore either.

The machines Georgia uses are not networked, cannot be hacked (they are physically locked and sealed) and come with a very thorough system to check the number of votes cast, vs the number of ballots issues, vs the number of voters signing in to a precinct. Short of breaking privacy by identifying what an individual voted everything is being done in Georgia to run accurate clean elections.

Take off the tin foil hat and volunteer to work an election some time. They could use the help in your county and you will learn a lot about the safeguards and the seriousness with which election officials take their sacred trust.

Daniel

July 21st, 2010
1:15 pm

So how is he going to magically end furloughs, reduce class sizes, and give all teachers raises? Can anyone say “tax increase??”

I don’t see what is so special about this speech. Attack the other side for 8 1/2 minutes and not explain how he is going to make the State better is all I heard.

DannyX

July 21st, 2010
1:16 pm

Are you kidding Vince????

Since Roy left…

Plans for reservoirs were cancelled
Not one thing was done to ease metro traffic
Pay day lenders got rich again
Georgia became a leader in bank failures
Pray For Rain became the water policy
Ethics and ethics reform have been nonexistent
Our new Governor became a world traveler
Our new Governor received special tax breaks
Homeowners lost their state exemption
Corporate taxes were virtually eliminated
Lobbyists took over the capitol
Georgia Power wrote their prepay power plant plan
Georgia Power went from bragging about their “Lowest rates,” to nearly the highest
Atlanta was removed the the relocation short list
Go fish wasted taxpayer dollars
High speed rail was ridiculed
Guns in churches became a priority

Of course Roy Barnes wants to debate his Republican opponent! I’ll make a prediction right now. No way in heck does the Republican candidate take Roy up on his one on one debate challenge! Roy would destroy him/her.

khc

July 21st, 2010
1:17 pm

vince who caused budget woes in ga….it started in clinton admin, exaccerbated during bush, and quite frankly obama nor anyone on political stage now has good answers for huge hole we are in, but if ga weren’t so full of unintelligent folks (maybe once a penal colony ….always a pc). at least barnes tried to move ga forward and teachers like most employees need a kick in the britches sometimes to get the juices flowing. and the flag did need to change, but he did not do it rite….and maybe he was a tad arrogant, like most lawyers i know…..but he did not enrich himself while his state was going to pot like sonny who just appointed his cousin to an important board. vince you must be a big fan of the dukes of hazzard culture or something like it.

khc

July 21st, 2010
1:22 pm

good job dannyx and the repubs took away your homeowners tax relief program which was a big tax increase and they still furloughed teachers despite stimulus dollars….i wonder how much they gave to big business without requiring jobs in return.

trj

July 21st, 2010
1:28 pm

Good Job Dannyx – you nailed it…

td

July 21st, 2010
1:30 pm

I have some questions for Barnes but he is to scared to be honest with an answer. How do you plan on paying for all the promises you have made to teachers? A rough estimate is it will take at least 2 to 3 billion dollars with declining revenues and over a Billion in federal stimulus money ending this year, so whose taxes will have to be raised and by how much?

You Asked

July 21st, 2010
1:33 pm

khc – Georgia was not formed as a penal colony but Oglethorpe received a royal charter to provide land for worthy poor in England. Early groups also included religious communities. England shipped people from debtors prisons but we were a far cry from a penal colony.

A.Z.

July 21st, 2010
1:36 pm

Sadly I see another election in which my vote will simply have to go to the lesser evil, and in this case that is Roy Barnes. While his record on education back in 1998-2002 was poor, it is nothing compared with what has happened in the past 8 years. Yes, many of our education woes can be blamed on the national economic recession, BUT the drastic cuts in education have clearly shown that educating our children is not even near the top of the Republican priority list in this state. You want proof? Try finding a teaching job. There aren’t any. Why? Because some of the biggest budget cuts wound up being in the education arena. Sorry, but when you are in a state that the rest of the nation considers dumb and uneducated, a state which ranks near the bottom of every national education ranking, it rankles a bit to see state politicians systematically destroying our school system. Maybe Barnes won’t do better, but he sure as heck can’t do worse.

Lucy

July 21st, 2010
1:36 pm

Good Job DannyX, Horace Mann, WAW and KHC. Don’t forget that Roy gave us the “Tax Free Holiday” and Sonny took it away this year. This state will be better off with Governor Barnes back in office–he has plans on how to reduce class size, not furlough teachers, fix transportation, take care of senior citizens and our poverty stricken citizens. I don’t worry about Georgia on Roy Barnes’ watch.

Feem21

July 21st, 2010
1:39 pm

How can anyone vote for a candidate for Governor that has no college education, a GED for a high school degree, and has never finished out a term for an office she was elected to?

Aquagirl

July 21st, 2010
1:41 pm

Those unemployed teachers have plenty of time to b!^ch here about Roy Barnes—-courtesy of Sonny Perdue.

td

July 21st, 2010
1:41 pm

khc, You are making me defend Sonny and think his RINO self has been the worst thing to happen to true conservatives in this state. When Roy left office, he left Sonny with NO MONEY in the rainy day fund because he tried to buy off enough votes to get re elected. Sonny built the fund back to around 3 billion over his first five years in office but cutting he heck out of state Government (everything except education). The recession hit and during the first two years he propped up education by spending the 3 billion plus cutting the rest of state government to the bone. The states revenues were 22 billion dollars in 2007 and they have been reduced to 16 billion this year and will go down to 15 next year when federal stimulus money runs out.

Barnes is promising the teachers to restore their national certification supplement, no more furlough days and restore the 190 day contract, plus COL raises every year. He is going to need between 2 and 3 billion dollars to keep these promises. To all of you who believe he is not out right lying to you, then answer me how he is going to keep these promises?

????

July 21st, 2010
1:42 pm

Feem21

July 21st, 2010
1:39 pm

Do you want a CORRUPT ex Congressman/Lawyer or a honest Woman? Sonny is a vet, Kong Toy is a lawyer, how well did they rin the state?

????

July 21st, 2010
1:43 pm

Feem21

July 21st, 2010
1:39 pm

Do you want a CORRUPT ex Congressman/Lawyer or a honest Woman? Sonny is a vet, Kong Toy is a lawyer, how well did they run the state?

Drew

July 21st, 2010
1:43 pm

Roy Barnes=Big Government
Roy Barnes=Egotistical liar
Roy Barnes= Same old lying Jawga Dimicrats who claim to be for the little man
Roy Barnes= No chance for a more fair tax code in Georgia, “no income tax will destroy Education”, his own words.
Roy Barnes=Same old slave mentality leeches mooching off of hard working Georgians.
Roy Barnes=Northern Arc which plows up peoples private property in North Georgia to ease Atlanta traffic
Roy Barnes= taking water from our lakes and rivers and sending it to Atlanta, hey you atheists. I don’t mind the prayer for water in Georgia plan. I trust God more than Roy. By the way, have you noticed all the water we have gotten overall this winter and spring?
Roy Barnes= PAYBACK TO TEACHERS WHO DEFEATED HIM IN 02. Hey fellow educators, don’t think that slime ball won’t get revenge
Roy Barnes=stealing democracy from the pwople of Georgia to please his lobbyists. Remember the flag deal? I am not in favor of the Confedrate flag as our state flag either, but it is the people of Georgia’s to decide.
This teacher and his family will vote for whoever runs against that slime ball Barnes!

Chicken Man

July 21st, 2010
1:43 pm

Are you saying that the founder of Chick Fil A who did not have a college education would not be a good governor?

????

July 21st, 2010
1:44 pm

Feem21

July 21st, 2010
1:39 pm

Do you want a CORRUPT ex Congressman/Lawyer or a honest Woman? Sonny is a vet, King Roy is a lawyer, how well did they run the State

got to slow down…

Jerry Mandering

July 21st, 2010
1:46 pm

Everybody has a reason for turning away from Roy after his first term. The biggest single reason for me was gerrymandering. Roy took out a pencil and took away my representatives. He figured that would ensure reelection and a few more Demos in office. Instead, it offered yet another reason to return him to county-lawyering. His machine will deliver but not necessarily what we want and need delivered.

Feem21

July 21st, 2010
1:46 pm

???? … I’d like someone who finishes their job elected to and someone smart enough to get their high school degree the first time … I’ll take Roy Barnes any day of the week over Handel. If you are truly honest with yourself you’ll agree that the only reason she won secretary of state is because of the word secretary in the title. With uneducated voters they are going to vote for a woman. Not being sexist just the truth.

Horace Mann

July 21st, 2010
1:47 pm

Whoa, Drew! With all the grammatical errors, misspelling, run-on sentences, and a host of other errors, please, please, tell me you really are not a teacher! Are you?