Sarah Palin sets off a ‘mama grizzly’ war in the GOP race for governor
Sarah Palin and GOP women have apparently given Karen Handel the boost she needs to survive on Tuesday — and her male rivals know it.
From a Saturday campaign summary by the Associated Press:
The fireworks were in the GOP race, where a recent poll showed state insurance commissioner John Oxendine, former secretary of state Karen Handel and ex-U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal battling for an expected runoff.
Handel accused Deal of sexism by pointing to a press release from his campaign saying that “real women” support his campaign. Handel said that attacked her own female supporters, including her most prominent backer: former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
“That just really disappointing,” Handel told The Associated Press.
Asked if the attack was sexist Handel said, “of course it is.”Deal called the claim “absurd” and said he was simply using campaign branding — the word “real” — he’s adopted since the election began. His campaign slogan is “Deal. Real.”
“That certainly was not meant to impugn anybody,” Deal said.
In fact, Deal has a reason to promote himself as female-friendly.
The Georgia Newspaper Partnership poll out today gives Handel a lead of 29 percent, but that lead zooms to 34 percent among women – an advantage that stands right at the margin of error of plus-or-minus 5 percent.
Handel also shows a slightly smaller, but corresponding deficit among male voters.
Deal, state Insurance Commissioner John Oxendine, and former state senator Eric Johnson of Savannah all show a certain amount of leakage in their support from Republican women.
Though the overall percentages in the GOP contest are different, the same trend can be seen in an InsiderAdvantage/Channel 2 Action News poll released on Friday.
The gender gap had already shown itself, but Palin endorsement of Handel last Monday appears to have given it more strength.
One overt sign that Handel intends to play to this gap in a runoff can be found in this mailer sent out by her campaign last week, which details the top four candidates’ positions on abortion.
She lists Oxendine, Deal and Johnson as “pro-life, no exceptions” – which is not entirely accurate. The three men acknowledge exceptions for pregnancies that threaten the life of the mother – the position of Georgia Right to Life, which has endorsed them.
Handel, who was not endorsed by GRTL, lists her own position as “pro-life, with exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother.”
As the weekend closed, a rival campaign strategist wondered out loud why Handel would expose herself to charges of being soft on abortion.
But in a female-oriented runoff, it would be interesting to see what polls have to say about the attitude of GOP women on that topic – and what role it might play, should Handel survive Tuesday.
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J.B. STONER
July 18th, 2010
11:14 am
Palin needs to go head to head against Obama..
we need change
Next door neighbor
July 18th, 2010
11:27 am
Sarah Palin demonstrates just how unqualified she is for any higher office in this short video about Alaska and Russia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXL86v8NoGk
T Knight
July 18th, 2010
11:29 am
Isn’t it pathetic how 2 former democrats are attacking a true republican woman? Very telling of the kind of men they are in life. Beyond whether any woman does or doesn’t like Sarah Palin, this type of vitriolic ranting is shameful. It is the very same thing we’ve seen from democrats, and even RINO’s seeking to destroy the republican party.
I for one am not amused….. I will hold them accountable at the ballot box…..
Vote Karen Handel July 20th
Jeb
July 18th, 2010
11:40 am
Maybe bring back W
clem
July 18th, 2010
11:45 am
I have no time for Palin. She is unqualified to be President, and she and her family belong on the Jerry Springer Show, not in the White House. However, Ms. Handel is the only Republican who is not a crook or a kook, so she is the only viable choice. On this one, Palin got it right.
This is Mrs.Normain Maine
July 18th, 2010
11:56 am
Karen Handel barely graduated high school! I cannot believe this woman is a serious contender for governor although her low educational level is representative of her constituents. If I didn’t have enough reasons to despise Palin, I now have the ultimate reason. Who is she to meddle in the affairs of our state?
Rick Patel
July 18th, 2010
12:06 pm
It would be so great if Sensational Sarah Palin was instrumental in helping to elect female Governors in Georgia & South Carolina. Maybe it’s a good year to be a fearless, feisty, fashionable feminist freedom fighter.
retired engineer
July 18th, 2010
12:11 pm
“Palin needs to go head to head against Obama. We need change.”
Yes, but she doesn’t have even two cents to offer (or should that be sense?).
The More You Know...
July 18th, 2010
12:28 pm
I think it’s easy for the men in the race – and the MALE president of GRTL – to say “No Exceptions” – because they will never be in that situation. Exceptions for rape and incest account for a small fraction of abortions. The larger question: do we want leaders who think in black & white soundbites on complex moral issues?
khc
July 18th, 2010
12:31 pm
and we wonder why ga ranks so low educationally?
Chris Murphy, Atlanta, GA
July 18th, 2010
12:37 pm
I don’t like Handel, as a candidate; that being said, she’s been the most honest, outspoken and has not been afraid to swing her elbows at the other Repubs, showing them all to be incredibly light weight.
makes sense
July 18th, 2010
12:48 pm
Is there any chance that the real reason You Betcha doesn’t embrace the birthers is that she doesn’t want Obama supporters to retaliate and ask for the long form of Trigg’s birth certificate?
Handel is Incompetent
July 18th, 2010
1:08 pm
Karen Handel? Completely incompetent, and her track record as SOS confirms it.
Watch this segment that aired on WMAZ in Macon almost a year ago, regarding a decision that Karen Handel refused to make as SOS, and resigned before making. This story is about to become common knowledge throughout GA politics:
http://www.bibbmonroebattle.com/vidWMAZ101409.html
And we want to make this person Governor. Ha!
AREALAMERICAN
July 18th, 2010
1:08 pm
Damn all these crooked politicians!
Charles McNider
July 18th, 2010
1:11 pm
I am surprised that Ms. Palin endorsed the most liberal Republican candidate. I am not a fan in general of politicians that reinvent themselves for the next race. It did not work for Romney and I hope it does not work for Handel.
Deal has his faults, but he supports the Fair Tax, is pro-life, opposes illegal immigration, and is a true conservative. I am voting for him.
Pork Chop
July 18th, 2010
1:15 pm
First things first: go Karen!
Now, for those of you who think Palin unqualified to be President: by virtue of the fact that she is truly a U.S. citizen (born in the U.S.), has attained the age specified and is not disqualified by criminal conviction – she is certainly qualified to become the President if the elctorate is so inclined. Perhaps she is not of the Harvard elite and is not your cup of tea, but she is qualified. Or mayhaps, you prefer “Hope” and “Change you can believe in”? I submit that she would at least try to do what is best for this country – and not what is best for the world of Muslims. I further believe that almost anyone would be better at the job than the current resident of the Whitehouse – and those of his ilk.
Rafe Hollister
July 18th, 2010
1:24 pm
retired engineer: In your mind she may not be the brightest bulb on the planet, but she has demonstrated that she could efficiently operate a city and a state. Barry has proven that he talks a good game but wouldn’t stay in business two days if he ran a lemonade stand. I don’t think Barry would do well matching wits with Sarah. She may not be that bright but Barry’s not much competition.
On the election, just pick the one who will hurt us the least.
Galloway an "Insider"?
July 18th, 2010
1:27 pm
Galloway an “Insider”? HA HA HA HA. Try “partisan hack”. Go to The Sunday Paper and read the REAL story about Chief Turner’s nomination. Unlike the partisan hack Galloway, even though Stephanie Ramage endorsed Reed, she had the guts to print the story that Galloway obviously doesn’t have.
GOP Dawg
July 18th, 2010
1:29 pm
Amen on the ilk! I have not decided on our Gov. race yet. Still need more Info.
Right is Wrong
July 18th, 2010
1:30 pm
Keep talking, Tea Bag Barbie. She isn’t even qualified to run a dishwasher…and anyone with at least one brainwave realizes that.
Setting the bar low
July 18th, 2010
1:32 pm
I see Pork Chop thinks any U.S. citizen of age who has no disqualifying criminal history is “qualified” to be president. But Pork Chop is right about one thing.
Palin would do what she thinks is right, even if that meant singing “Onward Christian Soldiers” while giving the nuclear launch codes, with First Dude tooling around the Oval Office in his snowmobile shouting “Praise Jesus, it’s Armageddon time!”
Fun times ahead for America!
????
July 18th, 2010
1:33 pm
No Bid Deal & The Ox have law degrees but are crooks, I’ll vote for a honest woman like Handel without a degree in CORRUPTION.
Bob in Gainesville
July 18th, 2010
1:39 pm
All I can say is Deal is a crook, everyone up in his old district knows it. Deal says he will get rid of the illegals, come up here to Gainesville & see what a good job he did in getting rid of illegals, we are over run with them because Deal’s big buck supporters want illegals they can pay minimum.
Reality
July 18th, 2010
1:40 pm
Republicans, seriously, ask yourselves where are the solutions to Georgia’s problems that any of the Republicans running for governor are offering other than saying Obama bad. I’m not Obama. “stood up to Obama Care,” “liberal agenda,” “Reid, Pelosi, Obama out of control.” Force the Republican candidates to offer solutions. They already know that you don’t like Obama; that’s a given. Where are the solutions? Last time I checked neither Mr. Obama nor Mr. Reid nor Ms. Pelosi are on the ballot for any political office in Georgia.
Michael
July 18th, 2010
1:52 pm
Handel has shown enough achievement during life to negate the need for a college education. Several of my lawyer friends never graduated college but went to law school before the Bar required both a law degree and an undergraduate degree. And I’m a liberal democrat who doesn’t vote for repukes, but I hate the denigration of education and its concomitant elevated status.
Diehard
July 18th, 2010
1:53 pm
Sarah Palin needs to take care of her own family before she starts lecturing Georgia Republicans on how to take care of theirs.
midtownguy
July 18th, 2010
2:02 pm
I am enjoying watching traditional GOP sexism turn on itself, two women are gonna take the good ‘ole boys to the woodshed. Lovin’ every minute of it.
The last time I voted for a Republican was Bush I (twice), but if Karen gets the Republican nomination for governor, she will get my vote.
Tyler Durden
July 18th, 2010
2:02 pm
Wow. Just reading input from GOP supporters makes me feel smarter and more balanced. You guys should figure out how to bottle yourselves. You’d make a mint
Chuck Allison
July 18th, 2010
2:20 pm
Either Palin or Handel have more useful experience than a person whose only leadership experience was as a “community organizer.” Is that a slap against all “community organizers”? It sure is. The ACORN never falls far from the election fraud.
mike
July 18th, 2010
2:21 pm
I suppose all these guys probably hate that women have the right to vote. They would love to turn back the hands of time on this one.
Keith
July 18th, 2010
2:32 pm
This thing is backfiring on Handel, Deal and The Ox. Almost everyone I’ve talked to this weekend is now at least considering Johnson. It’s very possible we could end up with all 4 candidates pulling in the 20%’s
John K
July 18th, 2010
2:34 pm
What is all this “pro-life with the exception of….” b.s.? If you have an exception, you’re just saying you feel you have the right to make the choice for others.
Bob in Gainesville
July 18th, 2010
2:35 pm
Handel vs Johnson sounds good to me..
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
July 18th, 2010
2:50 pm
Individual sovereignty is about making choices for oneself. Those opposed to it aren’t Americans but traitors serving the Roman Anti-Christ’s “Fifth Column” and pedophile priesthood.
Vote Democrat
RINO
July 18th, 2010
2:51 pm
Who cares about endorsements? Some people are so pathetic that they need someone to tell them who to vote for.
Norma
July 18th, 2010
2:51 pm
Vote for Palin! We need change alright! She is smarter than the others that is why some speak bad comments about her! I will vote Out Obama1st term Prez) and I will campaigne for Palin
Sally
July 18th, 2010
2:52 pm
So Palin, who is against any abortion for any reason, endorses the female candidate who believes in exceptions, as do the male candidates? And then, said female lies about the men’s positions to gain votes from females? Ever since McCain held Palin up as the next Hillary (HAHAHA!) the Republican women in this country have gone nuts. They think Bachmann and Haley, Handel and Fiorino are God’s answer to the problems of the country. Sorry, folks, but the lack of a college degree (or two) DOES mean something. It means that a person has no empathy for those not like her, as we see with Sarah frequently, and have ideas that are set in stone because they are not flexible enough mentally to even consider another opinion. If you want a bunch of female Bushes in office, go for it, but I suspect these gals and their radical viewpoints will not make it through November.
jimbo
July 18th, 2010
3:14 pm
Oxendine and Deal are crooks, plain and simple. Johnson is a kook who can be a loose cannon. Handel is the only choice. So what if she doesn’t have a college degree? Look at the horrible mess the so-called educated men have gotten us in!
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July 18th, 2010
3:21 pm
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Right is Wrong
July 18th, 2010
3:32 pm
Norma, Sarah Palin is an idiot. Go bake a cake or something.
GEORGIA VOTER
July 18th, 2010
3:51 pm
Who cares what Handel’s educational background is. Harry Truman didn’t go to college.
Bush & Obama went to Harvard. Look at the great job they’ve done !
Johnny
July 18th, 2010
3:51 pm
Yeah, Norma. People say bad things about Palin because she is “smarter” than all the others. It has nothing to do with the fact that her family is full of publicity seeking idiots. Or that she’s not even popular in her own state after leaving the governorship early so that she can make money. Or that she lacks expertise in pretty much every substantive issue that isn’t gun rights or abortion. Or that she embarrasses herself in interviews with her lack of knowledge on important topics. Or……
Deal is a crook
July 18th, 2010
3:53 pm
Deal makes himself richer off of the tax payers. He called people Ghetto Grandmothers, and now says Handel isn’t a real women.
We don’t need the big spending do nothing congressman as Governor of Georgia.
This is Norman Maine
July 18th, 2010
3:55 pm
Jim, you posted this as if Palin’s endorsement put Handel in the lead but I don’t think it is no small coincidence that after you posted Handel’s interview with Doug Richards about gay marriage she “surged” to a lead in the polls. She comes out as a gay-hating bigot and suddenly Georgia loves her. That sounds about right for this state. I’m surprised that Eric Johnson isn’t in second place after his announcement that he supports concentration camps for undocumented immigrants. Maybe they just didn’t hear him…..yet. So on primary day, it really be just a matter of who the Republican electorate is hating most that day. Mexican immigrants?(Johnson) Gays?(Handel) Poor people (Oxendine) Blacks?(all candidates)
Fauntle-ROY BARNES
July 18th, 2010
3:56 pm
Karen, honey; fetch ‘ol Roy a lemon for his ice water.
This ‘ol country lawyer, defender of the weak and feebleminded, will open up a can of whoopass on my Republican opponent.
With the unions in my pocket, there will be some payback once I get back in the governor’s mansion. Not only has President Obama promised me much-needed stimulus money for Georgia, but I’ve got a new state flag in mind.
Palin LOL
July 18th, 2010
3:58 pm
Matt Taibbi wrote a dead on editorial about the phenomenon that is Sarah Palin. I regard to the “Mama Grizzly” stuff (whatever that could possibly mean), he says that Palin’s magic is that she reduces “political debate” to nothing more than stroking the idiotic fantasies that Middle America has about themselves. It is embarrassing that Georgia is a state that is obviously filled with people who fall for that nonsense, with people who are too ignorant to know that she is completely unqualified or to even give a darn. “She’s one of us, let’s elect her President”. Sarah Palin has successfully turned American politics into American Idol.
J.R. Ewing
July 18th, 2010
3:59 pm
Don’t ever trust a lawyer named Barnes !
Impervious Pearl
July 18th, 2010
4:00 pm
As the Secretary of State, Karen Handel did nothing, so her record speaks for itself. While I am not concerned with her education level, she apparently is, as she has a large chip on her shoulder because she is not a college graduate. Her staff from every position she has ever held has said she is mean, bitter, unprepared, untruthful and incompetent. Everyone cannot be wrong. I watched the debates and was appalled at her behavior. She came across as hard, bitter and not truthful. As a female Republican, I find it offensive that she would stoop to such tactics, as she has berated her opponents for the same tactics. I will not say who I am endorsing, but I will say it will not be Mrs. Handel.
Bob in Winder
July 18th, 2010
4:16 pm
Deal, Ox, & Johnson are crooks, Handel is not.. Hard decision, my vote goes to Handel.
Bob in Gainesville
July 18th, 2010
4:19 pm
Deal has taken advantage of the trust in my district long enough, time for Real Steal Deal to go, I’ll be voting for Handel Tuesday.
Aquagirl
July 18th, 2010
4:19 pm
Pearl, Karen Handel wants to be called “Governor” not “Miss Congeniality.” You aren’t impressed by a thumbs-up from the former Miss Wasilla?
We breathlessly await your endorsement, available when the man of the house cuts you loose for the day. I’m sure Jim will let us know via breaking news.
General Sherman
July 18th, 2010
4:19 pm
As a “Union” man myself, I wholeheartedly endorse Roy Barnes for governor.
I can give Governor Barnes some tips on how to deal with these Republican neo-Confederates that permeate the Georgia landscape, openly questioning government authority and taxation.
Reality
July 18th, 2010
4:50 pm
Chuck Allison, a little lesson in campaigning: Mr. Obama played the community organizer theme throughout his campaign for POTUS because he realized he needed folksy cred. He avoided mentioning his experience as a constitutional law professor; president of the Harvard Law Review; magna cum laude law school graduate from Harvard; two- term state senator from Illinois and other things that Georgians of the red persuasion consider “uppity”. However, sounding folksy; a half term as governor; a degree in general studies after attending five schools and romanticizing the Reagan era is all Ms. Palin has.
karen in roswell
July 18th, 2010
4:58 pm
Every single positive comment on here about handel was written by a paid staffer. Don’t for one minute think she is actually the frontrunner.
To be real about it
July 18th, 2010
4:59 pm
If you’re going to be real about it, Reality you can’t discount a large part of her constituency is the MILF vote. It may be politically incorrect to talk about, but it’s true.
Pork Chop
July 18th, 2010
5:01 pm
I am satisfied that Palin’s detractors are democrats. Democrats will invariably attack the biggest perceived threat to their power. Palin is indeed qualified by law to hold the office of the Presidency. If it is your opinion that she is not educationally qualified, I would only urge you to look at those so “qualified” and the government they have given us. Education is surely not indicative of intelligence. I am sure that all of us know at least one person that is educated far beyond their intelligence (I can think of many). To judge a person’s intelligence by their education is one of the greatest acts of snobbery to be found. I suspect that some of you are guilty of that offense. I would poin out to you that the Mensa Society is made up of people from all walks of life. Some of them have only a high school education, if that.
So, you are free to criticize Palin, and Handel for that matter. Just be assured that at least one person here knows you for what you are.
On the contrary
July 18th, 2010
5:06 pm
I look forward to Palin winning the nomination, singing “Onward Christian Soldiers,” launching the nuclear codes all while First Dude is tooling around the Oval Office in his snowmobile shouting “End of Days baby!”
Might be just the wake up call we need to shake us out of our malaise.
Pork Chop
July 18th, 2010
5:23 pm
@On the contrary
I thought Jimmy Carter cured you of your malaise?
Pork Chop
July 18th, 2010
5:25 pm
@On the contrary
If he didn’t, keep the faith. The great Community Organizer will certainly cure your problem if he continues.
You will learn the true meaning of poverty: it is called socialism.
On the contrary
July 18th, 2010
5:35 pm
I don’t trust Obama to have the ca-hones to launch the nuclear arsenal. Do I trust Sarah to do it?
You betch ya!
ODDOWL
July 18th, 2010
5:37 pm
Does Karen Handel really want Sarah “Drill Baby” Palin endorsing her campaign for Governor of Georgia ??? After all, Sarah palin is a strict pro-lifer with no exceptions and she is a virulent supporter of Mark Williams and small Dick Armey, the founders of the Racist Tea Party Express movement which has usurped control of the Republican party. When The NAACP and the African-American race complained about the vitriolic racism being express by some of the Tea Party members, Sarah Palin and Mark Williams marked and ridiculed the NAACP and all African-Americans with even more vile, vicious racist vitriol. If Karen Handel is serious about winning the Governor race, she should reject Sarah Palin and Mark Williams’s endorsement. Racists of a feather flocks together. Karen Handel should distant herself from the Tea Party racists by criticizing, condemning, denouncing and repudiating Sarah Palin, Mark Williams, Dick Armey and the Tea Party Express usurpers for perpetrating this sort of 19th century overt racism against President Barack Obama, the African-American race and the Democrat Party in the 21st century.
On the contrary
July 18th, 2010
5:39 pm
Actually democratic voters may fear Sarah, but Democratic operatives hope and pray she wins the nomination. They know, after change turned out to be politics as usual they are extremely vulnerable to someone competent.
No doubt they’ll be propping up Sarah as the boogeyman to get lead the hard core right to Sarah like rats to peanut butter so they’ll have someone to beat in 2012.
On the contrary
July 18th, 2010
5:41 pm
Leave it to tea baggers to ruin a perfectly good message of less taxation, and less government intrusion into people’s lives.
It takes a special skill to ruin a message that appealing in this political environment, but somehow the tea baggers accomplished it
Go Ox
July 18th, 2010
5:57 pm
karen in roswell
July 18th, 2010
4:58 pm
You got that right, Ox wins without a run off.
khc
July 18th, 2010
6:14 pm
hey pork chop, people don’t make fun of palin because of her somewhat sporadic education, it’s she can only deliver one line slogans and unless briefed could not reason her way out of a paper bag…..she’s not the resounding success in alaska where she comes from http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_AK_129.pdf
while to be applauded for entering politics to make things better….i’d prefer my prez to me more than an american idol
LOLA
July 18th, 2010
6:17 pm
@JB…Please Sarah isn’t smart enough to untie my shoes. The great point and I’m wondering why your kind missed it; looks like low poll numbers and even though Karen Handel has 29% for Republicans. A revolution is happening and we welcome Sarah Stupid and her mother grizzlies-WE THE PEOPLE PITBULLS. King ROY ALL THE WAY. BTW, AJC, stop reporting that WE THE PEOPLE are displeased with President Obama. I’m seeing his efforts working in my home here in Georgia and bet by November others will too. Like my son being covered under my insurance NOW especially since there are no jobs because our wonderful Republican Senators blocked Jobs Bill; Wall Street Reform all the while going out and cutting ribbons on stimulus monies in their communities but not helping to create jobs. Georgia reps are obstructionists. We are cleaning house and taking out the trash. Georgia will be an embarassment to the country in November. Go Dems! BTW, tell that crosseyed Eric Johnson to stop saying if Obama/Pelosi raises taxes that he’ll stop’em. He didn’t stop the Legislature from taking away the Homeowner’s Relief Grant! So shut up! Did your property taxes already go up? Ok, thank your Republican leadership. Still Unemployed? Thank your Republican Leadership!
khc
July 18th, 2010
6:22 pm
good point on homeonwers relief…..the repubs raised our taxes some hundreds of millions of dollars….what a bunch of hypocrites
Bubba
July 18th, 2010
6:32 pm
If Handel is relying upon an endorsement from Palin, I’m voting for somebody else.
Travis McGee
July 18th, 2010
6:47 pm
Dozens of ethics investigations vanished when Sarah Palin unexpectantly resigned offering a reason that didn’t quite make sense to me. My guess is that these investigations will reappear if Palin enters the presidential race.
I don’t believe she has the stomach to stand up against the hard questions that come from the other candidates, the print media and other TV networks. Fox throws her beach balls and is entralled with her cliche ridden talking points.
Palin is a zero on a ten scale. A Democrat’s dream come true.
J.B. STONER
July 18th, 2010
6:48 pm
YALL MISS ME DON’T YOU !!!
Pork Chop
July 18th, 2010
7:00 pm
@karen in roswell
How about telling someone to send me my check! I’m not a paid staffer.
And whose campaign are you working with, laren in roswell?
Reality Check
July 18th, 2010
7:13 pm
Karen has one of our state’s up and coming leaders, Jan Jones, in her own backyard. Yet Jan Jones supports Nathan Deal. Look at all the people who support Nathan. They are the ones leading effectively in Georgia. People know an effective leader when the see one, and by the same token, people know a fake when they see one.
John Galt
July 18th, 2010
7:35 pm
Vote for Nathan Deal or Roy Barnes is the next Governor. It’s that simple.
georgiadawg70
July 18th, 2010
7:37 pm
All you Boshavics have fun with you post because you are goint to get yours in Nov and I can’t wait.
Jon Lester
July 18th, 2010
7:53 pm
For those of you who weren’t living in Georgia 30 years ago, when the real J.B. Stoner was running for the Senate, I think a few minutes spent searching Google will remove all doubt that there are racist elements among the “Tea Party” set that Sarah Palin claims as her own, hysterical Facebook denials notwithstanding.
J.B. STONER
July 18th, 2010
8:09 pm
to jon lester.
Mind your own business fool…
Most know who I am and wish they had of listened to me…
You and your black panthers try to stop the tea partiers …
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH…………….
TIME TO GET BACK TO OUR ROOTS IN THE SOUTH…
Johnny
July 18th, 2010
8:20 pm
Reality, since when was Barack Obama a magna cum laude graduate of Harvard Law? The law school won’t even release his grades. No credible source has EVER stated that Obama was a top grad of his law school
khc
July 18th, 2010
8:31 pm
watching the repub debate on gptv ….time to get a new slate of candidates….handel did not show up….she may not want to appear with mcberry, but the voters deserve debate and discussion…seems like she’s a bit of a quitter like palin
OldSnarkey
July 18th, 2010
8:42 pm
Well, ‘next door neighbor’ apparently you are unqualified to post in this blog. Apparently you don’t know much about Alaska or about running the country for that matter. Just WHAT does that utube video show. Please share that with us. We are waiting. Tell us what she needs to know to be qualified. Betcha didn’t know that in the dead of winter, you can walk over to Russia! Put that in your pipe and smoke it LOL
T Knight
July 18th, 2010
8:43 pm
Karen Handel for Governor. Vote July 20th.
Neil Boortz smarter brother
July 18th, 2010
8:46 pm
To all of you nut fudge fringe crazies , here is a splash of cold water called the truth about the Fair Tax…
1) The Fair Tax assumes that businesses will suddenly start lowering prices when they don’t have to pay all kinds of “hidden” taxes. Uh-huh. The next time a business or manufacturer LOWERS prices because of lower costs instead of giving the money to stockholders , it will generate a rebellion by those same stockholders or ,worse yet , management will just pay themselves the money.This point alone makes the whole scheme look like nonsense.
2) The “prebate” idea being pushed to sugar coat this in order to sell it would unleash more fraud and abuse than the stimulus that just happened. Don’t believe me? Over 9,000 first time homebuyer tax credits were just collected illegally in that penny ante program. The Fair Tax would be run by the same government. Fraud would be astronomical.This is probably the most cynical part of this “plan”. It hooks the suckers with the promise of a government check. Neil thinks that you won’t see the hypocrisy in this.
3) It would even widen the dangerously expanding gap between upper and middle income classes. It is a highly regressive tax. Highly regressive.
4) It ignores that local governments raise most operating funds from sales taxes.Sales taxes that would be stacked on top of the Fair Tax at point of sale. Thus making some purchases unaffordable. This would kill the economy (except for the already wealthy).
5) As most state treasurers can tell you , their “consumption based” taxes are great…When the economy is humming along. When it turns down ,not so much. Same thing with the Fair Tax. What will proponents propose the first time revenues go down too much to pay the bills ? Right – They will demand that the tax be increased and that will open the door for every lobbyist in the world to get some special deal for their interest group and we would be right back…Where we are now.
6) The main pusher of this idea is Neil Boortz. Funny guy. But, he will not debate the merits of this scheme at any intellectual depth. When someone raises any kind of objection or points out any kind of flaw, he starts calling them “candy a$$es” or something worse and acts like a spoiled child. This alone should give you pause.If the proponents cannot meet and have an honest debate about a proposal ,watch out- you’re about to get screwed…
Bonus point- The pimps for this idea say proudly and confidently that it would bring in the same amount of revenue as the current tax code. These same people then , almost in the same breath, scream that the current tax code takes too much. This should tell you all you need to know about their plans for that money.
The fair tax is yet another “magic bullet” that shields the politicians from making the hard choices and shields lazy voters from mucking out the politicians that deserve it.
OldSnarkey
July 18th, 2010
8:47 pm
‘Travis McGee’…do you even know what an ethics investigation is? Those were just stupid democratic tricks to get her off the national stage. It didn’t work did it. LOL You ‘know nothing’ democrats are squirming now aren’t you….serves ya right LOL… Hoping you dems can find work come november! Bless your hearts! ‘T KNIGHT’…AMEN!!!
OldSnarkey
July 18th, 2010
8:53 pm
ODDOWL, I rather feel like you are sooooo happy that your parents were pro lifers! Smoke on that one for a little bit. If ya can’t figure it out, just repost and I will help you out, bless your lil ole heart!
Reality
July 18th, 2010
9:09 pm
Johnny, google presidents who graduated magna cum laude.
khc
July 18th, 2010
9:27 pm
jim, good question about perdue getting loans etc…blind trust, but why didn’t the press ….press the current gov about his 22 million loan…
Joey
July 18th, 2010
9:34 pm
Karen Handel…..what a chicken!!! Could not even show up tonight for a debate. And before all you Handel blowhards start saying it was because of McBerry’s being part of the deabte, spare me. No one who wants to lead our state should skip a debate this close to decision time. She was more concerned she would be unable to adequately respond to questions.
ymchoo
July 18th, 2010
9:36 pm
Snow White leads The Seven Dwarfs
The GOP will soon be known as the Party of Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs with Sarah “Snow White” Palin leading such GOP Dwarfs as Huckabee, Gingrich, Pawlenty, Thune, DeMint, Romney and Ron Paul. When Snow White leads, The Seven Dwarfs follow.
So Gerorgia Man
July 18th, 2010
9:50 pm
Just watched the debate… No Handel. How does that work? I don’t like someone… so I’m not speaking to them. I’m not a sexist but if your going to lead this state at one of the most critical times in our history then – MAN UP! The endorsement from Palin (a woman that abandonded her governor position for $ greener pastures) is based purely on gender. That doesn’t mean anything to me. We need strong leadership that will face our problems head-on. This governor has to be tough… I’m not sure Karen can handel it!
Bystander
July 18th, 2010
10:11 pm
I can’t vote, but I’ve been inside this election with multiple opportunities to meet candidates so I’ve been paying extremely close attention.
After getting an opportunity to watch the republican side of the debates tonight with one of my friends (who is a die-hard republican), I am convinced that the election belongs to Barnes. She was sitting there listening to all of them avoid the questions and repeat the same things over and over again. She got up and turned the TV off, proclaiming that all of these guys seemed like idiots and she would rather vote for Barnes. When that happens, I know the republican party is in trouble. From my point of view, they are all prepared to tear each other to pieces while Roy Barnes waltzes in with a very good chance at winning. Once the runoff begins (with whoever is in it), things are going to get nasty and people are just going to avoid the party altogether.
Jon Lester
July 18th, 2010
10:18 pm
Phony J.B. Stoner, the days of white racists deciding elections are over and will never come back. If you don’t like it, you can follow your namesake to the grave for all I care.
Jon Lester
July 18th, 2010
10:20 pm
For the rest of you who may wish for a quick link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/29/national/29stoner.html
Jon Lester
July 18th, 2010
10:26 pm
“Neal Boortz’ Smarter Brother,” thank you for that. I’m a retailer and the last thing I need is to become a federal tax collector just by virtue of running my store, among the other problems with the whole “Fair Tax” scheme. And anyone who thinks there won’t be a huge black market for untaxed items is out of their mind.
GA Blue
July 18th, 2010
10:30 pm
JB Stoner must be stoned
B. Thenet
July 18th, 2010
10:48 pm
Funny how Palin’s campaign used the “real America” line and got beat up for it, and now Deal’s folks are using it against her chosen candidate.
Let the GOPers eat themselves. I want a run off, and I want it to get nasty.
Time to let Roy finish his 2nd term
Salt and Pepper
July 18th, 2010
10:51 pm
Isn’t it ironic that the people who want limited government want the government to tell us who can adopt a child based on how you live your personal life. It is really sad that the election has become a contest of who hates gays and hispanics the most. What are any of you going to do to get Georgia back to work?
Maryland Values
July 18th, 2010
11:29 pm
Karen Handel is a lifelong republican, unlike anyone that has been in georgia for more than 15 years. Your backwards state needs some good common sense not from the south leadership.
Joey
July 19th, 2010
12:01 am
Karen – as someone who worked for her at the SOS office – is the meanest and most foul mouthed person I have ever seen in a management position. She is very shallow and has few ideas. I think trying to win on the endorsement of another shallow individual – Sarah Palin – is also flawed. Karen and Sarah….twi individuals who never finish any office they start. How sad it will be if this state elects someone with no education.
luangtom
July 19th, 2010
12:40 am
Handel showed us all her wit and intrigue by not appearing on-stage with McBerry again on Sunday at the debates. What if she does not like a legislator or a governor from another state? Is she going to refuse to speak with them due to her high moral character? And, I thought that she was a purported Christian. Why is she being a judge and jury and no one saw fit to prosecute?
GI Dolly...Henry Hates McBerry
July 19th, 2010
12:58 am
Karen was a drop out of high school, so what makes any voter think that she wouldn’t drop out as Gov, as she did Fulton Commissioner, and also SOS? Her emotional immaturity is evidence of that as a drop out. She thinks everyone operates on her level.
Her comment that some parents are legit, and others are not? Like she knows anything about being a parent. Deal was right to call her a Barren woman.
Bitter EX democrackkk
July 19th, 2010
6:11 am
Karen Handel is the ONLY sensible choice for Georgia!
Dont EVER vote for another democrackkk, they keep us ALL oppressed!
(Isnt the real JB Stoner deceased by now?)
Democrat's for Palin
July 19th, 2010
6:14 am
I LOVE Sarah Palin! She’s the best thing to happen to Democrats since Nixon. As long she’s the leader of the ‘publicans, they’ll have zero credibility.
Of course, a “great american” will be along shortly to assert that the Dem’s are just afraid of the mama grizzly. And all I can say is, keep on keepin’ on!
Go Ox
July 19th, 2010
6:52 am
Ox won the debate
khc
July 19th, 2010
7:44 am
handel no show, ox total da, johnson part of the problem for last 8 years, and deal party switcher and questionable ethics…..whew what a crowd
are you better off now than 8 years ago?
J. Davis
July 19th, 2010
8:02 am
Endorsing the most liberal Republican in the governors race is a big misstep for S. Palin. I admire Palin, but she has put a notch in her gun stock that makes her a more establishment Republican than a conservative.
Mike
July 19th, 2010
8:33 am
Palin is a dunce who is playing up her “found” celebrity. While I’m leaning to voting for Handel, I’m disappointed that she wasn’t at the debate. Is it that she sees she has more to lose than to win by debating? It’s really a sorry lot on both sides that we have running for governor.
grifter
July 19th, 2010
8:50 am
Sarah Palin: Any skirt will do.
LOW BLOW
July 19th, 2010
8:51 am
Maybe its time to have a women in charge because the men surely dont know what the heck they are doing. I have not really looked at Handel until recently.
As far as Palin, well she is certainely more qualified then our so called President Obama who seems to hold dear the muslem and terriorist countries and the rights of Mexicans to come illegally and take over our country. After all, Obama just told Nasa that their first priority was to make sure the Muslems feel important as far as their roll in space. AND WHAT ROLL WOULD THAT BE?
Time to put people in office who support the American people and the CONSTITUTION dont you think.
grifter
July 19th, 2010
8:55 am
But hey if Sarah Palin is such a divisive figure, why not elect Pamela Anderson? I mean, she is a woman. That seems to be the only requirement for republican feminist icon these days. That and a “country crock” ignorance of just about everything. Oh, except how to get your daughter knocked up.
grifter
July 19th, 2010
8:57 am
LOW BLOW (what a deserving name for you) you can’t even spell ignorant. Keep home schooling those boys on your compound, let us adults do some work.
Nunya
July 19th, 2010
8:59 am
Alrighty so now we will most likely get the same old lying, criminal, career politicians thanks to the liberal AJC that I hope goes belly up. I could’ve lived easily with McBerry and I could’ve lived with Chapman or Johnson, but I will go to a homeless shelter in the surplus State of Virginia so you can thank God Georgia will have one less conservative.
Nunya
July 19th, 2010
8:59 am
Jim Galloway — you are a joke.
grifter
July 19th, 2010
9:03 am
Have fun in VA nunya. Write us if you can about the good ol southern paradise. Sic semper and all that.
Snafu
July 19th, 2010
9:06 am
People have to wonder why the media is pushing Palin? This woman is ignorant and have no clue. The notion that she is given air time is unflipping believable. Dumbing down America seems to be the course here in this country. Karen Handel is as bad for Georgia as is John Oxendine, both inept and on the corporate payroll.
Juanita
July 19th, 2010
9:07 am
What really bothers me is that The “People” wanted change. Pres. Obama has done as much positive change and he promised he could. The Republicans have tried to block him on everything. He is darned if he does, darned if he doesn’t. Now, Georgians are faced with hard core, heartless candidates, talking about Immigrants like they are dogs,(well, I can’t say that because people care more about their animals now, that people), okay, Candidates are showing their HATRED for Mr. Obama, Immigrants, Gays, any body that is different. Our state is becoming more divided. Take a hard look at your candidates and what they are saying.. Hatred should not be anybody’s Platform, Democrat or Republican………….. I’m sick of all the Negativity!!!!!!
November
July 19th, 2010
9:13 am
This is Mrs.Normain Maine
July 18th, 2010
11:56 am
Karen Handel barely graduated high school! I cannot believe this woman is a serious contender for governor although her low educational level is representative of her constituents. If I didn’t have enough reasons to despise Palin, I now have the ultimate reason. Who is she to meddle in the affairs of our state?
And, Mrs.Normain Maine, you’re an absolute idiot and the people you hang with prove it. Being a crackpot, it’s very hard for you to call a kettle black.
Savannah77
July 19th, 2010
9:17 am
ReElect NoOne
I will not vote for a banker, lawyer, career politician
I will be voting for the christian noncareer candidate who owes no one favors
P.S. Out of state “endorsements” are worthless to Georgia voters
Vote wisely tomorrow
????
July 19th, 2010
9:21 am
3 crooks with college degrees, 1 honest woman with a High School degree, guess I’ll go with the honest woman.
Truth
July 19th, 2010
9:23 am
I watched the debate last night.. We are screwed, what a bunch of losers.
Savannah77
July 19th, 2010
9:23 am
Juanita: Vote for a true Christian to represent our great state! do your reserach on the pool of candidates!
luangtom
July 19th, 2010
9:46 am
Karen, No-Show, Handel and her “holier than thou” theatrics. How lame can one get? If she were to win the governorship, would she put her personal judgements aside and deal with less than desirable legislators or other governors that do not meet her moral standards or would she be a no-show with them, too? Ms. Flip-flop on gays and now Ms. Morality, ya gotta love it. Her own former-staff write here of arrogance, foul-mouth, ineptness and lack of trust. We need someone like this as governor? NOT.
ANGRY AS HELL
July 19th, 2010
10:15 am
LOW BLOW is a perfect example of why Republicans get elected to keep stealing from their supporters and the rest of us. What Sara Palin has going for her is that she knows there are people who are even dumber than she is like…., well, LOW Blow…people who vote against their own, best interests and read the funny papers. Palin MORE qualified than Obama? Really ? Palin can barely utter a coherent sentence. People who support Palin are the same kind of people who just couldn’t accept the fact he was Black and had an Arabic (not Muslim) name. They couldn’t accept that fact. So, they get these other nutjobs like “Birthers” to come up with a wacky story about Obama not being qualified because they think he wasn’t born an American citizen. That would mean that the birth certifcate issued to his mother back in 1962 by the State of Hawaii was “fixed” back then because somehow his mother knew he would be president some day. This is how far this country has come. Palin gets suckers like LOW BLOW and some of these Republican women to support her because she talks about “Mama grizzlies” and “angry soccer Moms” and all this other bull$hit she speaks, and, through her silence, shows support for these wacko Birthers and other mental patients who claim Obama is a Muslim. If she wasn’t scripted by her handlers, she’d be unable to utter her own name. Can anyone imagine her negotiating with the President or Prime Minister of any of our allies? She’d do a great job of discussing how to gut salmon or make elk sausage. Beyond that, we’d be in trouble as soon as she opens her mouth. I will give her this. She was smart enough to leave the Alaska governorship to hit the “speaking” circuit and cash in on her notoriety. And you suckers pay her the money to speak your language.
I hope she is the Republican nominee for President in 2012. I just pray that she is. Democrats will not have to worry about losing the presidency.
Paddy O
July 19th, 2010
10:26 am
Maryland – ever been to Baltimore? There is more crime and ghetto there than any place in Georgia – so keep you northern liberal elitism where it belongs – up you butt, jobu!
Paddy O
July 19th, 2010
10:28 am
Juanita – are you neck deep in credit card debt? How else can you support Obama blowing so much $$$ that he does NOT have access to? He is spending your grandkids taxes – how is that responsible? How do like him running around apologizing to all 3rd class countries? Obama is an obummer.
Lee Howell
July 19th, 2010
12:02 pm
I’ve voted Republican for more years than I care to admit, and will continue to do so at the national level, but Sonny Perdue & Co. have cured me of doing so at the state level.
Otherwise, the fact that Oxendine and Deal, who both have significant unresolved ethical allegations against them, are being allowed to run under the GOP banner and are actually polling fairly high, is turning me against the GA GOP. Libertarians & Independents, here I come!
Lee Howell
July 19th, 2010
12:08 pm
@ANGRY AS HELL, I don’t care what color President Obama is, and I don’t care if he’s called Barack or Barry or Tom or Dick or Harry.
I do care that his lack of administrative experience is showing. I do care that he’s pushing government expansion when we’re already heavily in debt, and higher taxes when many people are barely making ends meet.
I care that he’s spending so much time traveling around the country on the taxpayer’s dime when he could say what he wants to say from the White House, going on seemingly endless golf jaunts and vacations when many of the rest of us can’t find jobs and can’t afford vacations or even a “date night”, and I care that taxes are about to go through the roof on people who are having trouble paying their bills already.
And for what it’s worth, I didn’t like George W. Bush either.
Pork Chop
July 19th, 2010
12:35 pm
After reading some of these postings, I have reversed myself. I am no longer a “pro-life” person. I now favor abortion. Can we pass a law legalizing retroactive abortions?
Pickin' Cotton
July 19th, 2010
1:44 pm
I am a female – business professional – Have Major concerns with HANDEL!
IF HANDEL CAN’T SHOW UP FOR THE FIGHT (PANEL DISCUSSIONS)
DON’T SHOW UP TO REPORT TO WORK FOR GOVERNOR!
Peach Street
July 19th, 2010
1:47 pm
VOTE NO FOR JOHNSON!!!
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
July 19th, 2010
7:57 pm
Sarah Palin, inbred whitetrash from Alaska, endorses papist whitetrash from Maryland trying to garner the whitetrash vote in Georgia.
Let’s elect DuBose and Carol Porter instead to show America what genuinely high quality, true Georgians look like.
vladimir
July 19th, 2010
8:21 pm
Would you rather have a crook or a nincompoop for a Governor? If none of the above, then vote for Eric Johnson!
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
July 19th, 2010
9:02 pm
Eric Johnson proved out crooked, against the People of Georgia, by trying to give Jekyll Island to Linger Longer.
J.B. STONER
July 19th, 2010
9:26 pm
Juanita is a damn fool
Rob B
July 20th, 2010
9:05 pm
I wish there was a direct reply to comment, but Hey GEORGIAVOTER….Truman didn’t have a degree along with one of the lower presidential approval rates in history and Bush went to Yale. SO get your facts before making an argument.
Bear
July 21st, 2010
11:47 am
Everyone please stop and think about what the real issues are! It’s about liberty and freedom and they are threatened by the Democratic Party. Roy Barnes will agree with what Washington throws out for his own political agenda!!! I hate the Democratic position on the redistribution of taxpayer money!!! Don’t you care? Start pulling together!!!!